"it feels good to get the screwing" Caleb, you are priceless. The new space is looking awesome as well! Hope all the prep work is calming down a bit but knowing this channel I am sure there are projects galore :) Really appreciate everything you do!
New studio looks amazing Caleb! And the sound environment is much better!! Congratulations and keep the reviews coming, up to a successful next decade!! - OP
Thanks OP! We are digging the way it looks and sounds on camera, and I am thrilled viewers like you seem to like it, too! We are always open to hearing suggestions on how to make it even better, so always feel free to weigh in! Good to see ya here! Thanks for the comment and thanks for watching!
This is simply a cable management solution-like Samsung’s One Connect box but with a wireless transmitter. I wonder how much stress a gaming console or a computer running at 4K/120Hz would put on the signal. I wouldn’t pay extra money for this feature though.
I'm all for this tech on the gallery series. I have a G1, practically flush with the wall, and I hate not being able to swap out HDMI cables unless I pull the TV off the wall.
I have a G3 and the included mount allows you to pull the TV away from the wall to mess with the cables and then pushes back in flush to the wall. You can solve this problem without going full wireless.
@geodim I know .... I used a mount I had already installed, and didn't want to drill more holes into the wall due to renting. I have every port filled, but as I moved things around with varying HDMI cable lengths and purposes. For example the gaming cable is 3 feet and the cinema is 6, but I had to rearrange the space and more the gaming console can only use the cinema and my streaming device is on the gaming cable.
My Trick is, running a Cable Conduit or Cable Tray down and really use all ports and just add the devices later without ever having to try and adding HDMI after wall mounting it
I've been saying for years that TV's were bound to go full wireless one day and I even believe it'll happen with the electrical cord somehow. LG really did a great job here. I can't wait to see in the near future how this improves.
Well it sounded great until you read that HDMI 2.1 supports 48Gbps which is 6 gigabytes per second! Then you see the M3 and realize that it's all been a lie and HDMI 2.1 really only needs 100Mbps (12.5 megabytes per second) so kudos to LG for realizing that HDMI was simply blowing smoke up our posteriors for the past 20 years.
It's already happen, your dream come true there is a company call Displace that made a full wireless TV you can preorder today. Shipping will start in December.
This has been around for about 15 years now. I bought an LG 55LH85 TV back in 2009 with a wireless box that worked just like this. I was able to setup the box in my bedroom to hookup my desktop and ps3 to it, but had the TV in my living room just outside mybedroom. This allowed me to easily switch back and forth between gaming in my living room and gaming in my bedroom, without having to move my PC or PS3 from one room to the next.
Not crazy about the stand because you can’t put a sound bar close to the TV. You have to give the stand space which you really don’t have that much of on certain cabinets that this TV can sit on.
Absolutely nobody spending $30k on a TV will be pairing it with a trash soundbar. The prospective buyer is someone who owns a home theater with a proper speaker setup, soundproofing, etc.
Caleb, with the official LG stand, at the bottom you have the option to dismantle (unscrew) the turntable part, without it the stand is much more stable, if you notice it has some rubber bands around the stand in case you opt for the option to remove the turnable part
@@Caleb_Denison I have only been able to figure out one (the Miles Davis). I loved the Brecker Bros one that you gave me the answer for, especially the first track that has the wacky allusion to Ode to Joy. Love jazz that alludes to classical music, especially Baroque music, but love all styles and am eager to hear new stuff. I have not been able to guess any of the others. Today’s I am thinking must be someone who recently died? But am blank! Sorry I guess I am not very good at this and don’t want to bother you with asking each time. Trying to be thoughtful of your time. 🥰💖🥰 Update: Steve Harwell? Jimmy Buffett?
Love your channel and huge Fan of your detailed review. I would like your opinion on Lg G2 98 inch Vs M3 98 inch which one would you recommend? Is there much brightness difference within these two tvs. Since LG g2 98 inch has come down in price. What r your thoughts?
Nobody is pairing a $30k TV with a $1,500 sound system. The target customer is someone who has a home theater. And that type of person willing to shell out $30k on a TV most definitely has a pro-consumer audio system, so a good $5k-20k including soundproofing, etc.
Does anybody else here "still rocking" and cringe when people are humble bragging over using old tech? This isn't even old. There aren't even massive improvements since the C9. "Still rocking" a TV that's close to as good as it gets? Congrats, I guess?
Thank you for introducing me me to that BDI site. Omg. Simple solutions for function furniture that doesn’t have cables coming out the back everywhere. Love it.
Amazing someday this Will maybe do anything the top line wired TVs does at a price we can all afford.. someday why not just remember there’s a start for everything.
I love the channel. The research, presentation and production values are awesome but why do the audio levels have to fluctuate so wildly in your videos?
We are working on that! In this case, I had to record a separate intro with a different audio recorder. For the unboxing portion, we used a new wireless mic setup that had unexpected noise floor issues, so that audio for that segment had to be treated, which is not normal. But for many videos, it’s one mic, one setup, so there should be no fluctuations. We appreciate that this stuff gets noticed and we are working on getting the best audio dialed in. Give us about a week and a half and let us know if you hear the difference?! BTW, do you use headphones when you watch our videos? Or speakers? Or just your phone or TV speakers?
@@Caleb_DenisonI frequently notice some fluctuations (mostly subtle) in sound on your videos. I actually watched this three times: 1) On my Sony TV through the speakers hooked up to my old Pioneer AVR; 2) Casted from my iPhone to my Marantz Model 40N, and 3) just on the iPhone. The results were less noticeable on the iPhone. For the other two: Sound on the Intro was full and fairly loud; the unboxing section was loud, full and at times slightly muffled depending on your position; for the review section in your A-roll position, the sound was slightly thinner, a little more distant and the volume was lower; for the B-roll, where you inserted a small portion of your G3 review related to its sound, your audio was louder and fuller again (more similar to your intro section). Hey, I am not sure if this aligns with your findings, or if you will even see this, but I thought you might find it helpful and I am actually a little nerdy!🤣🥰
@@Caleb_Denison I typically watch your videos on my home desktop computer, with the audio played through a small pair of Pioneer shelf speakers. Your reviews are the perfect length to watch over a morning cup of coffee and I'm glad to hear that the audio issue is likely just a short-term thing. I look forward to watching many more videos of you struggling to unbox large-screen TVs in the future. Cheers.
There is another video installing a wireless TV, where it was obvious the signal drops significantly once there's a person with an iPhone in a pocket in between, which was reflected on the setup screen immediately. Also, take in account the noise, which may depend on the environment. E.g. how many WiFi networks and Bluetooth devices are around, how intensively the networks are used. I think, the box has to be placed in a meter or two from a TV, idealy in the cabinet below the TV.
I wish LG used something like Samsung's one connect box for the G series. Having a single cable running out of the TV would make it much more convenient. I'm not a fan of the wireless box for the limitations it brings with it.
Hello Caleb. I am having an extremely difficult time finding that exact stand for my 77" M3. Would you mind sharing the exact part number if you have it please?
Hi Caleb, great works to explain how oled and other tvs working... i would by and oled tv (55), iam undecided between these (for budget): LG G2, LG C3 or Sony 55A80K... what do you think about it?
I can't believe the latency part was just glanced over for a wireless system. Please run some latency tests on it (eg. how long it takes for an input to register on screen)
I can’t with LG and their marketing department! Zero connect box. Samsung has a One Connect box, since you still have to use a single cable to connect the panel. Since this is fully wireless, zero. Haha. Overall this seems to be the future. I’m happy if this becomes mass market tech. Great video Caleb! Hope everything is well!
Agreed - it does seem to be the future - I also don't understand the whole HDMI 2.1 which says it supports 48Gbps but clearly the Zero Connect Box can render 4k images with a connection that's sub 1Gbps which is 48 times lower than the cable supports...
@@techsamurai11 well that’s not particularly correct. Although the cable can transfer up to 48Gbs, Xbox and PS5 for example are both limited to 40Gbs, plus that includes a ton of lanes not only for picture, but also for sound (which takes quite a bit of that, especially for surround codecs), security protocols and such. Plus, if the image sent from the box to the panel itself, can be compressed to smaller size, then decompressed within the panel itself, it makes sense it only needs a certain level of bandwidth to work.
@@gavriushkaExactly, which is why I chose 40Gbps to keep it easier. Dolby Atmos audio maxes out at 18Mbps - I didn't mention it because it is less than 0.01% of the 48Gbps throughput - it's non-existent. 😁 Security must be nothing - tokens or such. Even with a UHD at full transfer rates, we're left with 99.7% of the capability of an HDMI 2.1 cable unaccounted for. It's a lot to be unaccounted for. I've never questioned it until the M3 because clearly this is not wirelessly transmitting 5 Gigabytes per second. Even the PS5 cannot do that in a direct SSD to SSD transfer.
I just realized this is part of your comment, not mine. Check out my comment about HDMI 2.1 and Bits for Nerds. I also dropped it to 40Gbps for the same reason you provided.
has anyone covered gaming latency / input lag on this? I gather the wireless means shooters etc are going to get an unhealthy 10-20ms min added, which is a deal breaker for me. I looked around a bit and watched a few videos and struggled to find any hard information. Anyone have experience?
This seems very interesting but I'm not sure I would go for one, how does it work with using an external receiver for home theater setups like 5.1 or even 7.2.4? Feels like it's not made for more than soundbars at most?
@digitaltreds , can you please test the latency performance when gaming with a console (ps5/ Xbox) ? I assume there is a delay/ buffer to accommodate interruptions which is fine for regular viewing of tv/movies, but I'm curious when you had the unit placed in the tv console if gaming would expose any video delays.
Hello, what about that stand, is it possible to buy somewhere? I am looking for lg G3 and that stand would be really great for it instead of that stupid default stand
Any word on that stand being for sale yet? I have a G3 coming this week and can’t wall mount it. Not interested in using the current stand since it tilts back.
I do have a question on this. What kind of signal is used to connect the box to the tv. In most houses, there are tons of wireless connections bouncing around and wonder if this will cause any issues with the tv. If it is wireless to the internet, then what kind of modem router was it connected too.
what if M3 with this wireless box be in same room as your your Internet routers and devices like computers or tablets so if that case would I be better off with Sony 2023 A95L TV?
I assume this Wireless Box is using the latest Wi-Fi Standard Wi-Fi 6 aka 802.11ax. This Standard is much better at managing multiple devices as unique connections.
This TV is worth a consideration If you are connecting a lot of devices to your TV and hanging it on the wall, otherwise the wireless technology is not needed. I prefer my devices connected direct to a TV with built in Google TV with nothing else connected including TV Antenna.
Could you please deactivate the auto localization feature for titles and stuff for your videos? It is really distracting to see i.e. a German title and chapter description and the video itself is in English. I’m not a fan of these automatic, half baked automatic translations anyways and hate to have to deactivate the CC feature every time for every of your videos. Keep up the great work!
For the soundbar issue Lg has the Lg Wowcast. You can connect the soundbar (from lg which supports wowcast like the S80QY) without any wires to the tv and supports lossless dolby atmos. They implemented i think 2022. There are videos about it
Anyone paying $30k for this TV will not be using a soundbar. They’ll almost definitely putting this in a home theater with and have a proper speaker setup, sound proofing, etc.
Caleb, thank you for this! Great first video on the new tech! For your consideration, two things: 1. I am disappointed that you didn't test more scenarios with objects in between. Primarily, I was hoping you would test signal when the Box is in another room. If I were to get an M3, I would look for it to be 10-15 feet away, but in the next room or in a closet, i.e. with a wall in between the box and the set. 2. Did you consider that you are perceiving the M3's sound to be better than the G3's sound because now you're in a different studio that is acoustically treated? (Or does the M3 really have different audio tech than the G3?)
It doesn't work if the box is in another room. It practically requires a direct line of sight to the point that the antennas inside the box have to be directed towards the receiver on the television (hence the rotating thingy on the top). If you put any obstructions between the box and the receiver you're affecting the signal as you can see from his demonstration that just by covering the receiver end with your hand can cause dropped frames.
But if its taking a hard wired connection of HDMI, is it outputting the same as the input? Or is it a downgrade of the signal so it can handle the capacity of the Wi-Fi. I do like the concept of this, but are you "getting out" the same as you are "putting in"
"handle the capacity of the wifi" It's not WiFi. WiFi is 802.11x. This is Wireless Display, formerly WiDi. This television has some of the best picture quality you can buy. I'm, honestly, baffled that you think you can achieve top-tier picture quality if there is a wireless deficiency. "Sure, the display is great. The picture is spectacular, and it's now just behind ultra-high end offerings from Sony by a slim margin... but what if I'm smarter than the engineers and know there's a fundamental problem with this that actually makes the picture I'm seeing not as good as the picture I'm seeing?" It's a 52Gbps signal. HDMI 2.1 is either 40 or 48Gbps.
Do u need to power plug tv itself or that is wireless too. Video dont show he did power plug tv so my whole point watching this video was how tv is gettting power. 😅
i am guessing they will do a version of this where the Box can also be connected with a data cable, for someone like me i do not want to have to deal with this but i like having a separate box like this because from a replacement and support stand point the who damn tv does not need to be replaced in most cases.
I'm really not getting how this is any different than just plain Ole fashion high speed wifi. Since the only way to add a soundbar system,, is through hdmi ports on the systems box.
I don't understand the point of this. Sure, it eliminates visible peripheral cables when wall mounted but.. there's still a big fat power cable dangling? Why spend all this money and still have a visible cable when you can spend like $10 on a drywall saw and a couple channel plates, and just run the cables through the wall?
I’m not getting why this is such a wonder. If most midrange TVs like TCL and Hisense are able to let you “cast” or use “AirPlay” - isn’t that “wireless” TV when you are streaming content on your device but watching it on the big screen? I imagine LG’s device has a TV tuner in it - but most networks also have apps for your device. So why is this special and why aren’t other makers shedding some of the bulk and cost of traditional TV in favour of wireless?
Thank you so, so much for the album cover in the background. "Changes in latitudes, changes in attitudes." Just the best.
"it feels good to get the screwing" Caleb, you are priceless. The new space is looking awesome as well! Hope all the prep work is calming down a bit but knowing this channel I am sure there are projects galore :) Really appreciate everything you do!
New studio looks amazing Caleb! And the sound environment is much better!! Congratulations and keep the reviews coming, up to a successful next decade!! - OP
Thanks OP! We are digging the way it looks and sounds on camera, and I am thrilled viewers like you seem to like it, too! We are always open to hearing suggestions on how to make it even better, so always feel free to weigh in! Good to see ya here! Thanks for the comment and thanks for watching!
This is simply a cable management solution-like Samsung’s One Connect box but with a wireless transmitter. I wonder how much stress a gaming console or a computer running at 4K/120Hz would put on the signal. I wouldn’t pay extra money for this feature though.
That wont work lol, also the energy waste is huge
I'm all for this tech on the gallery series. I have a G1, practically flush with the wall, and I hate not being able to swap out HDMI cables unless I pull the TV off the wall.
If you ever wall mount a TV, I highly recommend filling up all the ports with cables so they're readily available in the future
I have a G3 and the included mount allows you to pull the TV away from the wall to mess with the cables and then pushes back in flush to the wall. You can solve this problem without going full wireless.
@geodim I know .... I used a mount I had already installed, and didn't want to drill more holes into the wall due to renting.
I have every port filled, but as I moved things around with varying HDMI cable lengths and purposes. For example the gaming cable is 3 feet and the cinema is 6, but I had to rearrange the space and more the gaming console can only use the cinema and my streaming device is on the gaming cable.
@@itskenknight I used the loops to guide the cables to the bottom. I will definitely need to unmount it to swap out cables.
My Trick is, running a Cable Conduit or Cable Tray down and really use all ports and just add the devices later without ever having to try and adding HDMI after wall mounting it
Seems to me like this TV, is a perfect match for the HTA9 from Sony, you can set both boxes on the separate, and do a super clean tv/audio setup.
Brilliant thought
Props for you 🍻
Absolutely agree
I've been saying for years that TV's were bound to go full wireless one day and I even believe it'll happen with the electrical cord somehow. LG really did a great job here. I can't wait to see in the near future how this improves.
Well it sounded great until you read that HDMI 2.1 supports 48Gbps which is 6 gigabytes per second! Then you see the M3 and realize that it's all been a lie and HDMI 2.1 really only needs 100Mbps (12.5 megabytes per second) so kudos to LG for realizing that HDMI was simply blowing smoke up our posteriors for the past 20 years.
It's already happen, your dream come true there is a company call Displace that made a full wireless TV you can preorder today. Shipping will start in December.
@@techsamurai11where are you pulling the 100Mbps from?
@@anaestheticsit's UHD's rough transfer rates.
@@techsamurai11 Not losslessly high efficiency compressed it isn't
Ohhhh, this is what I’ve been waiting for! I’m looking forward to connecting my PC and playing high res games wirelessly. Let’s go!
This has been around for about 15 years now. I bought an LG 55LH85 TV back in 2009 with a wireless box that worked just like this. I was able to setup the box in my bedroom to hookup my desktop and ps3 to it, but had the TV in my living room just outside mybedroom.
This allowed me to easily switch back and forth between gaming in my living room and gaming in my bedroom, without having to move my PC or PS3 from one room to the next.
Not crazy about the stand because you can’t put a sound bar close to the TV. You have to give the stand space which you really don’t have that much of on certain cabinets that this TV can sit on.
Absolutely nobody spending $30k on a TV will be pairing it with a trash soundbar. The prospective buyer is someone who owns a home theater with a proper speaker setup, soundproofing, etc.
Caleb, with the official LG stand, at the bottom you have the option to dismantle (unscrew) the turntable part, without it the stand is much more stable, if you notice it has some rubber bands around the stand in case you opt for the option to remove the turnable part
Great review, Caleb! Well done! For my use case right now, I don’t see the need for it, but it’s very cool technology. Bravo!
Thanks! Were you able to sus out the record this time? It was a timely pick, though for sad reasons (that’s a hint if you can’t make it out).
@@Caleb_Denison I have only been able to figure out one (the Miles Davis). I loved the Brecker Bros one that you gave me the answer for, especially the first track that has the wacky allusion to Ode to Joy. Love jazz that alludes to classical music, especially Baroque music, but love all styles and am eager to hear new stuff. I have not been able to guess any of the others. Today’s I am thinking must be someone who recently died? But am blank! Sorry I guess I am not very good at this and don’t want to bother you with asking each time. Trying to be thoughtful of your time. 🥰💖🥰
Update: Steve Harwell? Jimmy Buffett?
@@Caleb_Denison That's Changes in Latitudes in the back, right?
@@horrorvinylthank you!
Nice video, basically a G3 with wireless input.
Hi dennis. Did u managed to connect it to run 4k 120hz from Xbox series x or ps5? What’s the latency when it’s connected to them?
Love your channel and huge Fan of your detailed review. I would like your opinion on Lg G2 98 inch Vs M3 98 inch which one would you recommend? Is there much brightness difference within these two tvs. Since LG g2 98 inch has come down in price. What r your thoughts?
The HT-A9 would go well with this thanks to its control box.
Heeeyyyy! Great point! Why didn’t I think of that. This is a great idea.
Nobody is pairing a $30k TV with a $1,500 sound system. The target customer is someone who has a home theater. And that type of person willing to shell out $30k on a TV most definitely has a pro-consumer audio system, so a good $5k-20k including soundproofing, etc.
Still rocking an LG C9, 4 years later, the picture quality is still amazing.
Does anybody else here "still rocking" and cringe when people are humble bragging over using old tech?
This isn't even old. There aren't even massive improvements since the C9.
"Still rocking" a TV that's close to as good as it gets? Congrats, I guess?
@@jefferyG499prick
Nice video keep up the good work my brother
New set looks good
Wunderschöne Gerät Träume ich schon länge Zeit..........! Danke
thanks but input lag measurements would have been appreciated
Thank you for introducing me me to that BDI site. Omg. Simple solutions for function furniture that doesn’t have cables coming out the back everywhere. Love it.
Until the electrical cord goes away, this doesn't solve any problem. Cheaper/easier to wall mount the TV and run cords through the wall to hide them.
This is really cool to see!
I'm intrigued though, what frequency/frequencies does the TV use to wirelessly transmit signals?
Nice tribute to Jimmy Buffet with changes in latitude album being displayed
Amazing someday this Will maybe do anything the top line wired TVs does at a price we can all afford.. someday why not just remember there’s a start for everything.
5:28 Sure, just when we have the perfect balance of cute kitten vs. grumpy Caleb, you cut away!
I love the channel. The research, presentation and production values are awesome but why do the audio levels have to fluctuate so wildly in your videos?
We are working on that! In this case, I had to record a separate intro with a different audio recorder. For the unboxing portion, we used a new wireless mic setup that had unexpected noise floor issues, so that audio for that segment had to be treated, which is not normal. But for many videos, it’s one mic, one setup, so there should be no fluctuations. We appreciate that this stuff gets noticed and we are working on getting the best audio dialed in. Give us about a week and a half and let us know if you hear the difference?! BTW, do you use headphones when you watch our videos? Or speakers? Or just your phone or TV speakers?
@@Caleb_DenisonI frequently notice some fluctuations (mostly subtle) in sound on your videos. I actually watched this three times: 1) On my Sony TV through the speakers hooked up to my old Pioneer AVR; 2) Casted from my iPhone to my Marantz Model 40N, and 3) just on the iPhone. The results were less noticeable on the iPhone. For the other two: Sound on the Intro was full and fairly loud; the unboxing section was loud, full and at times slightly muffled depending on your position; for the review section in your A-roll position, the sound was slightly thinner, a little more distant and the volume was lower; for the B-roll, where you inserted a small portion of your G3 review related to its sound, your audio was louder and fuller again (more similar to your intro section). Hey, I am not sure if this aligns with your findings, or if you will even see this, but I thought you might find it helpful and I am actually a little nerdy!🤣🥰
@@Caleb_Denison I typically watch your videos on my home desktop computer, with the audio played through a small pair of Pioneer shelf speakers. Your reviews are the perfect length to watch over a morning cup of coffee and I'm glad to hear that the audio issue is likely just a short-term thing. I look forward to watching many more videos of you struggling to unbox large-screen TVs in the future. Cheers.
The vj is Very kind and humble person :)
I try!
@@Caleb_Denison you truly are!
There is another video installing a wireless TV, where it was obvious the signal drops significantly once there's a person with an iPhone in a pocket in between, which was reflected on the setup screen immediately. Also, take in account the noise, which may depend on the environment. E.g. how many WiFi networks and Bluetooth devices are around, how intensively the networks are used. I think, the box has to be placed in a meter or two from a TV, idealy in the cabinet below the TV.
How come you don't have multiple room setups? Seems like the new place is garage only.
I wish LG used something like Samsung's one connect box for the G series. Having a single cable running out of the TV would make it much more convenient. I'm not a fan of the wireless box for the limitations it brings with it.
Hello Caleb. I am having an extremely difficult time finding that exact stand for my 77" M3. Would you mind sharing the exact part number if you have it please?
Hi Caleb, great works to explain how oled and other tvs working... i would by and oled tv (55), iam undecided between these (for budget): LG G2, LG C3 or Sony 55A80K... what do you think about it?
I like that LG wireless TV Caleb, very nice.
Rubber grommets might be vibration dampening and/or centering the balance point.
We've had constant wifi connection issues on our LG TVs (led ver). This would be a nightmare with everything wireless!
I can't believe the latency part was just glanced over for a wireless system. Please run some latency tests on it (eg. how long it takes for an input to register on screen)
If you worry about latency, don’t get this Tv, that’s it.
@@pablovi77 You're right, although it would be nice to have that information on how it performs.
How much does that TV cost, I would buy it because the wires give me headaches.
I can’t with LG and their marketing department! Zero connect box. Samsung has a One Connect box, since you still have to use a single cable to connect the panel. Since this is fully wireless, zero. Haha. Overall this seems to be the future. I’m happy if this becomes mass market tech.
Great video Caleb! Hope everything is well!
Agreed - it does seem to be the future - I also don't understand the whole HDMI 2.1 which says it supports 48Gbps but clearly the Zero Connect Box can render 4k images with a connection that's sub 1Gbps which is 48 times lower than the cable supports...
@@techsamurai11 well that’s not particularly correct. Although the cable can transfer up to 48Gbs, Xbox and PS5 for example are both limited to 40Gbs, plus that includes a ton of lanes not only for picture, but also for sound (which takes quite a bit of that, especially for surround codecs), security protocols and such. Plus, if the image sent from the box to the panel itself, can be compressed to smaller size, then decompressed within the panel itself, it makes sense it only needs a certain level of bandwidth to work.
@@gavriushkaExactly, which is why I chose 40Gbps to keep it easier.
Dolby Atmos audio maxes out at 18Mbps - I didn't mention it because it is less than 0.01% of the 48Gbps throughput - it's non-existent. 😁
Security must be nothing - tokens or such.
Even with a UHD at full transfer rates, we're left with 99.7% of the capability of an HDMI 2.1 cable unaccounted for.
It's a lot to be unaccounted for.
I've never questioned it until the M3 because clearly this is not wirelessly transmitting 5 Gigabytes per second. Even the PS5 cannot do that in a direct SSD to SSD transfer.
I just realized this is part of your comment, not mine. Check out my comment about HDMI 2.1 and Bits for Nerds. I also dropped it to 40Gbps for the same reason you provided.
@@gavriushkado we know for sure how complete the decompression is?
has anyone covered gaming latency / input lag on this? I gather the wireless means shooters etc are going to get an unhealthy 10-20ms min added, which is a deal breaker for me. I looked around a bit and watched a few videos and struggled to find any hard information. Anyone have experience?
Do you have any plans to review the new Sharp Aquos XLED TVs? Really hoping to see a good review on them.
I guess it’s good if you’re installing on the wall. Only the power cable for the TV needs to be fished through.
Can that stand adjust so the TV is closer to the feet or is that the lowest position?
Does it have a heatsink? I’m kinda trapped which one to go for either M3 or A95L 77. Kindly need a decision support for this Caleb.
Is there some sort of compression or are we really seeing the full 40Gbps HDMI2.1 signal sent wirelessly?
This seems very interesting but I'm not sure I would go for one, how does it work with using an external receiver for home theater setups like 5.1 or even 7.2.4? Feels like it's not made for more than soundbars at most?
Those spacers on the stand center balance the tv. Keeps the legs short in the back
Do you think I can put it on a Rolley stand in an apartment and just roll the TV to a different room?
Pls do a video wall mounting of the LG M3 OLED
Maybe the wireless is using a flavor of OFDMA/MIMO for beamforming signals and moving either the console or the Tv forces the unit to recalibrate.
@digitaltreds , can you please test the latency performance when gaming with a console (ps5/ Xbox) ? I assume there is a delay/ buffer to accommodate interruptions which is fine for regular viewing of tv/movies, but I'm curious when you had the unit placed in the tv console if gaming would expose any video delays.
That’s a great question. The g series is rlly good like 5ms so what’s this tv. Maybe 30ms?
What’s the name of the 83in M3 LG OLED? I can’t find it and don’t want to install it to the wall.
Thanks
Dave
Do you ever get to keep the things you test?
Hello, what about that stand, is it possible to buy somewhere? I am looking for lg G3 and that stand would be really great for it instead of that stupid default stand
Any word on that stand being for sale yet? I have a G3 coming this week and can’t wall mount it. Not interested in using the current stand since it tilts back.
It's still new so better wait 3 to 5 years more so it'll much much better with lots of features.
Or go with regular model and don't waste your money.
I do have a question on this. What kind of signal is used to connect the box to the tv. In most houses, there are tons of wireless connections bouncing around and wonder if this will cause any issues with the tv. If it is wireless to the internet, then what kind of modem router was it connected too.
maybe I missed it, but how does the TV turn on does it have a power cable?
Love the Jimmy Buffett album cover.
I don't get it. You still need power cable so if you can hide one why can't you hide other cables
Yeah. Samsung's One Connect is better because you still need to hide just one wire. But lack of wireless is a benefit with no lags and interference.
does the box have bluetooth maybe to still wirelessly connect to the audio system?
Line of site????? Could the box be place behind the tv ?
Can it work with Bose soundbar + sub woofer box and Apple TV 4K?
what if M3 with this wireless box be in same room as your your Internet routers and devices like computers or tablets so if that case would I be better off with Sony 2023 A95L TV?
I assume this Wireless Box is using the latest Wi-Fi Standard Wi-Fi 6 aka 802.11ax. This Standard is much better at managing multiple devices as unique connections.
How is it wireless if you still need to plug in the tv/display to the wall?
This TV is worth a consideration If you are connecting a lot of devices to your TV and hanging it on the wall, otherwise the wireless technology is not needed. I prefer my devices connected direct to a TV with built in Google TV with nothing else connected including TV Antenna.
Audio was a little weird on this video...could be mic??
16:30 I'd still rather the wired connection.. it's a cool look into the future but just not for me! I'm sure the price is 🤯 as well...
My thoughts as well, but really glad Digital Trends gives us the opportunity to see what is being explored in the digital world!🥰
@@LeezahB absolutely agree 💯% we are lucky as viewers we get an inside look thanks to D.T.. hard work let's not forget Caleb as well!
@@movie_av_impulse absolutely!! All credit to Caleb!!!💖💖💖
Could you please deactivate the auto localization feature for titles and stuff for your videos? It is really distracting to see i.e. a German title and chapter description and the video itself is in English. I’m not a fan of these automatic, half baked automatic translations anyways and hate to have to deactivate the CC feature every time for every of your videos. Keep up the great work!
Hi Caled!
Does the M3 have MLA ?
For the soundbar issue Lg has the Lg Wowcast. You can connect the soundbar (from lg which supports wowcast like the S80QY) without any wires to the tv and supports lossless dolby atmos. They implemented i think 2022. There are videos about it
Anyone paying $30k for this TV will not be using a soundbar. They’ll almost definitely putting this in a home theater with and have a proper speaker setup, sound proofing, etc.
Still got a fixed tethered power cable then?
Caleb, thank you for this! Great first video on the new tech! For your consideration, two things:
1. I am disappointed that you didn't test more scenarios with objects in between. Primarily, I was hoping you would test signal when the Box is in another room. If I were to get an M3, I would look for it to be 10-15 feet away, but in the next room or in a closet, i.e. with a wall in between the box and the set.
2. Did you consider that you are perceiving the M3's sound to be better than the G3's sound because now you're in a different studio that is acoustically treated? (Or does the M3 really have different audio tech than the G3?)
It doesn't work if the box is in another room. It practically requires a direct line of sight to the point that the antennas inside the box have to be directed towards the receiver on the television (hence the rotating thingy on the top). If you put any obstructions between the box and the receiver you're affecting the signal as you can see from his demonstration that just by covering the receiver end with your hand can cause dropped frames.
How does hdmi connection with a soundbar work?
But if its taking a hard wired connection of HDMI, is it outputting the same as the input? Or is it a downgrade of the signal so it can handle the capacity of the Wi-Fi. I do like the concept of this, but are you "getting out" the same as you are "putting in"
My question too!!!
"handle the capacity of the wifi"
It's not WiFi. WiFi is 802.11x. This is Wireless Display, formerly WiDi.
This television has some of the best picture quality you can buy.
I'm, honestly, baffled that you think you can achieve top-tier picture quality if there is a wireless deficiency.
"Sure, the display is great. The picture is spectacular, and it's now just behind ultra-high end offerings from Sony by a slim margin... but what if I'm smarter than the engineers and know there's a fundamental problem with this that actually makes the picture I'm seeing not as good as the picture I'm seeing?"
It's a 52Gbps signal. HDMI 2.1 is either 40 or 48Gbps.
Do u need to power plug tv itself or that is wireless too. Video dont show he did power plug tv so my whole point watching this video was how tv is gettting power. 😅
You never mentioned what you had hooked up to the wireless transmitter.
I certainly know abour rhe stand sfter this review.
If its wireless how did it get power electricity?
Would have been nice if you tried some console gaming for a latency check.
How long do they both last before they require charging
This would be a big hit for a projector. Mounting the projector on the ceiling without having to worry about any cables? Yes!
If there was a projector that was equipped to recieve the signal ,but there isn't.
So you don't have to plug these in?
Caleb's mic seemed a bit muffled in the unboxing section.
i am guessing they will do a version of this where the Box can also be connected with a data cable, for someone like me i do not want to have to deal with this but i like having a separate box like this because from a replacement and support stand point the who damn tv does not need to be replaced in most cases.
This TV could change the game as we know it! I am gonna pick up 3 of these for testing purposes but it needs MLA and heatsink
Have fun spending $90k on 3 of these 😂
Does the wireless connect box get hot?
Does this have MLA also ?
Seems to me that having the stand legs further apart would increase stability and using a soundbar easier.
Does this have MLA?
In the 77 yes. In the 83, no. Just like the G3
Thanks!@@Caleb_Denison
how does it compare to the new c63s?
Where can I find a list of Wisa speakers?
I'm really not getting how this is any different than just plain Ole fashion high speed wifi. Since the only way to add a soundbar system,, is through hdmi ports on the systems box.
One connect like will be better solution as you still need power cable from TV! Maybe one day we can rid of all those ugly cable mess....
Tim Heidecker has really mellowed out over the years I see.
Why you have a after market stand and not a orginal one ( so table looking one)
The Orginal is expensive (200-300 usd I guess) but is good looking from behind
Impressive. 😊
I don't understand the point of this. Sure, it eliminates visible peripheral cables when wall mounted but.. there's still a big fat power cable dangling? Why spend all this money and still have a visible cable when you can spend like $10 on a drywall saw and a couple channel plates, and just run the cables through the wall?
I’m not getting why this is such a wonder. If most midrange TVs like TCL and Hisense are able to let you “cast” or use “AirPlay” - isn’t that “wireless” TV when you are streaming content on your device but watching it on the big screen? I imagine LG’s device has a TV tuner in it - but most networks also have apps for your device. So why is this special and why aren’t other makers shedding some of the bulk and cost of traditional TV in favour of wireless?
One question: why they fatting the tv? My cx is ridicousluy thin. A coin is larger... c1,2,3 etc is more fat... 🤦🏻♂️