I remember seeing a neo-geo in the store as a kid and the $700.00 dollar price tag was insane. I won’t lie I wish I could have got it from the box art games I’ve seen.
Man I remember seeing this in the 90s, I had a PC and Sega MD, seeing the NEO GEO was like a wet dream but the games costed as much as 2 Sega Mega Drive consoles... I come from the Netherlands and that thing was so expensive.
When this came out I was ten. My parents couldn't even afford a Sega Genesis let alone a Neo Geo, so I did odd jobs doing garden work over the summer to buy my Sega Genesis, and didn't buy a Neo Geo until 2016 when I picked up a Consolized MVS that was in an AES shell. Had to go that route because the MVS carts are less expensive (still expensive relatively speaking though) then the AES games.
@@FWDSUXARSE I have a consolized 2 slot. Mvs games is the way to go. Still very expensive especially if there are complete matching kits. I used to have an Ωmega but it had poor RGB image quality and sold it
I really love the fatal fury 2 port on the genesis. The music in my opinion is even better than the arcade and I feel like the genesis version plays slightly faster as well which is why that’s the port I always go back to play. Definitely a better port than the mediocre snes port for sure. Too bad we couldn’t get fatal fury special on the genesis.
I'm not sure if I'd say it plays faster than the Neo Geo original, but owning both versions for real hardware, I definitely think it plays better. I find that it's much easier to pull off special moves and combos than the original, and the AI is toned down enough to make it bearable in single player.
Fatal Fury 2 was never meant to be played as a speed game, and the SNES nails the aspect of that, as well as the scoring system. I also don't like how healthbars take longer to take down on the Genesis version, takes too long to take opponents down. The speed code and juggle codes also turn the game into a clown show, so I never use those codes as I feel both break the game. I do love SLX's honesty on SS here, he notices the same things about the game that I do.
I won't lie I always laugh whenever I hear you rip a bad game apart. You do it in such a stylish, professional manner... Your Wild Woody review is still one of my favorites for that reason.
Fatal Fury 2 was one of my faves on the Genesis. I rented it quite a bit. The drums on that version are sick as hell and generally the music. Never got a chance at playing the Neo Geo for the price but damn that system looks like a powerhouse.
One of the few reviewers that has played it all from the outset. This is rare. You walk the line perfectly between taking the hobby seriously enough while not taking yourself too seriously. Your work is appreciated homie.
The Genesis had some fantastic Neo Geo conversions. I’d even go as far as calling them the most accurate conversions, even accounting for the 3D0 and x68000
@TrueSinister Sure, the Genesis can't touch either of those visually, but I think the Genesis versions feel more true to the Neo Geo originals in gameplay. Same goes for the SNES ports: They look and sound closer to the originals, but they gameplay isn't there. Even with the cutbacks in mind, I usually prefer the Sega versions.
Some games on mega drive ain't bad, but the best way how to play Neo Geo games without emulation or real Neo Geo Hardware is Dreamcast and second is Saturn.
It wasn't hard to put together specs that trounced all of the mass market 16-bit consoles. They were specked around being sold for $200 (90's dollars), requiring countless compromises. The Neo-Geo cost over three times as much and so did each of its games (due to the crazy ROM sizes). All arcade systems thoroughly trounced the mass market consoles back then. Still, the difference between home and arcade specs was less than in the 8-bit days and many talented developers were able to create reasonable approximations of arcade games on those $200 consoles, working with much less ROM too.
Good to see videos from you man, they haven't been popping up on my feed lately! I played a majority of these games on my Genesis when they were released, which made me a fan of Neo Geo and SNK as a whole; still am today. I played the hell out of SamSho and Fatal Fury 2!
The Neo-Geo could technically display 4096 colors on screen at once vs. 64 for Genesis, though I don't think any games got anywhere near that - though the average neo-geo game would have at least twice the onscreen colors of the Genesis max.
@@yellowblanka6058 Such an overkill :). 256 colours on screen is enough for games (looking at VGA, but those are even from a fixed palette). Maybe NEO-GEO had games with photographs in mind. (If so, glad it was never rialized :) It shows what kind of an absolute beast the NEO GEO was.
Man I remember seeing this in the 90s, I had a PC and Sega MD, seeing the NEO GEO was like a wet dream but the games costed as much as 2 Sega Mega Drive consoles...
Yeah, the Neo Geo was way ahead of all other gaming systems in the early 90s. However, the Neo Geo console just wasn't a practical consumer purchase back then due to its exorbitant price. It seems like the developers did the best they could with the Genesis hardware and it was really the only feasible way for most people to play many of these Neo Geo classics at home. I had _Samurai Shodown_ on the Genesis and it was a blast to play even if it was far from arcade-perfect! I actually do appreciate them removing the zoom effect in _Art of Fighting_ on the Genesis! That effect always just gave me a headache when I played it in arcades! 😅
I decided to try the original fatal fury on the Genesis one day, which I was skeptical about after trying the crappy snes version. Needless to say, I spent many an hour on that game. Not to mention fatal fury 2 as well, which I thought had a better combo system than the original arcade game. Unfortunately I can't say the same as samurai showdown, as I thought the super nes versions were much better. Granted though, the Genesis always has, and always will have a hell of a sound system. Thanks for covering this, oh and I've been an avid kof, sf, and Tekken player for over 30 years now. Haven't slowed down one bit, I also heard SNK is working on a new fatal fury. I honestly can't to get my hands on it
I know it's outside of the scope of this discussion, but the Neo-Geo was an odd machine. It had to use sprites to make up its backgrounds (whereas the Mega Drive uses 8x8 tiles), it didn't support transparency (SNES) or shadow and highlight (MD), and its 3D capabilities were non-existent... but it had sheer brute force power to get around most limitations (and the cartridge space to facilitate it), and its sound chip really is what the Mega Drive's should've been, to the point that you could probably recreate the majority of Mega Drive soundtracks on the Neo Geo, but I think it's fair to say that graphically speaking, Neo Geo ports of Mega Drive games wouldn't be so straightforward either (not that we had many).
Oof, that high pitch sound at 10:53 threw me off for a bit, it was SO LOUD... I'm 37 and I still could hear it loud and clear! I wonder if the younger audience could hear it even more screeching! And it was during one of the best ports as well, that Art of Fighting port honestly feels better than the original in so many ways it might as well overall just be better. Great video!
Man, I have such fond memories of my mom renting a Neo Geo for me from time to time. Ghost Pilots was my fave game for the system and I was always hoping to see it ported.
Awe, I still love the Samurai Shodown port on the Genesis, played the heck out of it and think it still holds up, overall impressive to me considering. Nice though on Super Baseball 2020
I also played it a lot, but that slow down was hard to get past. I guess I was just lucky that we didn't have arcades so I couldn't play the original. But like Street Fighter on SNES vs Sega - with SNES basically being a slide show at times.
I still can't get used to how capacity is mentioned in megabit instead of kilobytes and megabytes. Using them since the early 80s it is so weird. Regardless, got to admit the genesis had great power for what and when it was.
Mannnnn there was nothing like going to the arcade in the 90's and seeing a NEO GEO MVS.. I would always check to see if they updated any of the games. Growing up on military basis, you would see these things everywhere from the shopette to the exchange. Good times!
The Neo Geo is one system I always wanted to buy back in the day. Now I have a ton of Neo games emulated on disks for my Sega Dreamcast. I have most of them. The Baseball is Phenomenal! I love the Metal Slug games. Just bought Metal Slug Anthology on the PS4-5.
I always wanted a Neo Geo as a kid but never had one. Nobody I knew owned one, either. Where I lived, one was a Sega kid or a Nintendo kid. Back then, I played Art of Fighting on the Genesis. I was never any good at it, though.
I grew up in Los Angeles as a kid, so I was exposed to all the best gaming had to offer, import shops, arcades, anime, etc. So I knew of the Neo Geo from the start, and one of my friends even had one, so I got to play it pretty regularly. The same way home versions of Street Fighter 2 were never going to match the arcade 1:1, the game play did, and that's what was important. A lot of the home translations of the time did well enough to bring the Neo Geo experience home, and the Genesis/MD was no different. Great video for sure, and maybe as a follow-up, you could do the SNES conversions, and see how they match up. Or maybe even SNES Vs Genesis in regards to conversions, and who had the better ones?
I always wondered why a lot of the earlier Neo Geo games were never ported to any of the 16-bit consoles. I always wanted home ports of Magician Lord and Cyber-Lip, but it just wasn't to be.
yes I agree. some of the earlier neo Geo games probably would've ran quite well on the Genesis/mega drive hardware. not sure why they were adamant about stuffing the much larger 100+ mega bit games on 16 megabit cartridges. I guess it all boiled down to the obvious factor: Money.
@@Old_Man_Jay The problem is that a game like Magician Lord for example is way less popular than an Art of Fighting or Fatal Fury, which might explain this.
@@worsethanhitlerpt.2539 That's not what he meant. He meant that compared to everything that existed back then, it was incredibly overpowered and ahead of its time. The 2D was even better than what we had on the Saturn and PS1, which were released 5 years later. 10 years later, some games were still being made for the Neo-Geo, looking incredible and with better gameplay than modern consoles. We'll never see such a phenomenon again. It was definitely the most powerful console ever released, compared to the rest.
It's easy to say that the developers "shouldn't have removed this" or "shouldn't have changed this" when doing the ports from one console to another, but unless you're in their shoes you don't really know what sort of limitations they had to deal with in order to make a port work on weaker hardware. It seems like for the most part these ports were done really well, but of course there had to be compromises made.
The best era of gaming hands down. Everything strived to be arcade perfect, but nothing apart from the NEO GEO ever was. You went to the arcades to be amazed, and hoped your home console got a decent port. It’s not the same these days 😬
@@buckroger6456 oh for sure! Such strides were made during that decade. The significance of which have never been replicated in later decades, in my opinion
@@RetroRespawn 100%. The huge jump in graphics from 8bit to 16bit was just crazy. Then we seen a bunch of CD tech come into play that started to show us what games could look like and sound like with this new tech. The jump to 32bit with the PS1 was just mind blowing at the time. The 90s is the era in gaming that I find myself going back to play the most and personally feel like those games just hold up so well.
What a great day to start off in the morning with breakfast and coffee and sega lord x!!!! And on the sega Dreamcast birthday of 9/9/22. Thank you sega lord x. I guess I’ll be playing some bro Geo games on my Dreamcast today.
I’ve had my Neo Geo AES for many, many years. It’s definitely a powerful console and I really enjoy it but back in the 90’s the Genesis was my go to for pretty much all my gaming and I truly felt the Genesis, TG-16 & SNES held their own vs the Neo Geo especially when you consider the sheer volume of AAA games released on the 16bit consoles. Sure, when comparing the exact same game on Genesis vs Neo Geo it’s pretty obvious the Neo Geo is king but those games were developed for the Neo Geo so anything else is a mere port on far less powerful hardware so you can’t expect port perfection. But when it comes down to similar game categories or genres the Genesis library is leaps and bounds better than the Neo Geo library. Just my opinion but it’s based on the consoles that I own which includes the Neo Geo AES
I appreciate anytime somebody gives super baseball 2020 a shout out lol I had it on genesis and Super Nintendo definetly played the genesis version more for some reason lol
You even had my wife laughing during your "World of Heros" review! 🤣. Here's a question for your next "Ask SLX" video...I'm curious about your intros. Who does them and who's voice do we hear sing 🎶Sega🎶?
For me it was like bigfoot, you always heard about it and heard from a friend of a friend's former roommate who knew someone that has one, but yet you never seen one in the flesh. I use to want a Neo Geo way back then but gotta admit, there really wasn't much on the system I wanted to play back then.
Fatal Fury was on the Genesis before Capcom brought Street Fighter 2 over, and in my craving for a fighting game, I picked it up and never looked back. Fatal Fury was great on the Genesis. Sure it was a downsize, but it was so much fun until we got Street Fighter 2 and Mortal Kombat.
The Neo Geo is timeless, I love playing my consolized MVS, and it’s fun to collect those gigantic carts. I wish there was a Genesis port of Neo Turf Masters.
SNK brought their titles to rival systems because they never viewed the Neo Geo as a competitor to the completion but rather a luxury product for arcade enthusiasts.
SNK brought it to console cause they were never competing in the home console space to begin with. It's the same deal with Sega before the 16-Bit era. Sega was releasing their games everywhere even on NES, they only stopped doing it when they were competing with the Super NES otherwise they always allow their games on every platform. Thunderforce III, Puyo Puyo, Columns, Frogger, and a Stalker game all end up on Super NES for some reason.
sega lord should do a series called "when the genesis was so good, it could have been in arcades" i like to submit lightening force and contra hardcorps as initial candidates.
SNES fan here. The Fatal Fury port on the SNES was bad, mostly because it was missing moves for all the characters and had a muddled soundtrack. The Genesis version may have left out Hwa Jai and Billy Cane, but played way better. The SNES port of World Heroes was better, but wow was it sluggish. At least all the characters had their move sets intact. Also the port of its sequal was excellent and was an actual improvement in speed and playability, making it a great port.
All the Sega Genesis had to do to compete with SNK's NEO·GEO: Be created as an equally advanced console that runs 'System 32' games such as Rad Mobile, F1 Exhaust Note, Golden Axe Revenge, SegaSonic, Dark Edge, Burning Rival, and Jurassic Park: Arcade. (16-bit doesn't stand a chance)
They did make a monster 2D Arcade hardware it was based on the Saturn but then Sega worried about the spec of PS1 so they added on more chips to the saturn complicated the system and third party developers wanted to do 3D more than 2D. Sega could of just concentrated on 2D and co exist with and not compete with the 3d market.
Neo Geo on GENESIS 1. ART OF FIGHTING 2. FATAL FURY 3. FATAL FURY 2 4. KING OF THE MONSTERS 5. KING OF THE MONSTERS 2 6. SUPER BASEBALL 2020 7. SAMURAI SHODOWN 8. WORLD HEROES 9. VIEWPOINT
I remember getting a Game Pro magazine that talked about the release of Samurai Showdown for Genesis and I was so pumped! I was too young to really know how bad it was compared to the original. I still treasure that memory and the excitement I felt when I finally bought the game and played it. I know you're a Sega guy but I think it would be cool to get a companion video of how the SNES versions of the SNK ports faired.
The Neo Geo hardware itself actually wasn't that much more powerful than the MD. It had the same amount of RAM and the same CPU, just clocked at 12 Mhz instead of 7,6 (same as the Sega CD btw.). The real meat was in the software: cart sizes were regularly in the three-digit range, containing all the fancy animation, scaling and rotation effects, with "KoF 2003" topping the bunch at a ridiculous 716 MBit which amounts to almost 90 MB! This of course drastically drove up retail prices too, making the NG totally uncompetitive to Sega and Nintendo. On the MD (and SNES of course too) however developers had to work in the exact opposite direction. Since ROM space cost money, devs had to streamline and compress their software codes. So carts that were officially marketed as 8 Mbit or 16 Mbit often had actually double the rom size or more.
I´m actually a World Heroes fan, including the Genesis version. I do feel handicapped playing the Genesis version, though--I can´t spam the fast low kick like I did in the arcade version.
SLX, this is a great video - with storage being 'cheap' these days it would be interesting to see how newer developed games on the Genesis/MD stack up against the Neo Geo if the ROM sizes were identical. Although differences in sound are guaranteed as the Neo Geo's sound chip is better. That said it was a wrap for the Genesis/MD back in the day when the Neo Geo moved to ROM sizes in the triple digits.
It wouldn’t do much at all. The Genesis fanboys have this fantasy that a bigger cart would make things so much better and comparable to a system that is obviously much more advanced. Yeah, maybe you would get a few more things on screen, sprites, and maybe a couple of extra colors or detail, but it won’t be nowhere near close. hell, the Genesis was even limited compared to the SNES. The thing that that helped the genesis was having a pretty decent processor.
@Dances Rainy Streets actually, there are home brew ports of sonic that actually run pretty fast on the SNES hardware. Almost comparable to the Genesis. I don’t think the SNES was pushed to its full capabilities and some homebrew ports are proving that. The Genesis problem was its limited color palette, and even according to this UA-cam video, the Genesis was slowing down on some games. Any games that ran polygons on the Genesis look like total pixelated garbage. But in all fairness it was the same with the SNES, and yes, it did need a special chip to run polygons.
Originally King of Fighters 94 and Metal Slug were planned for the Super NES and Sega Genesis but got canned in favor of the 32-Bit systems. For KOF 94 it was going to dropped the USA and China team and for Metal Slug it would only feature just Tarma only and was going to be a single player title with a health meter instead of a one hit kill unlike the NeoGeo.
I know this is sega lord x, but I know you also have a thing for Nintendo etc as well. Could you follow this up as soon as possible with the SNES Neo Geo conversions too as a three way detached comparison? I've had some of them, like Samurai Shodown and World Heroes and they made a far better showing on Nintendo, strange, given the Genesis hardware is closer in ways. These days I don't have SS and WH on SNES anymore, have the actual arcade machine for some years now so I grabbed the originals but my familiarity with the titles makes me ask as I think it would be a fair showing of it.
May I tell you that World Heroes was not developed by a Japanese studio, it was developed by Sega Midwest Studio from Sega of America. Explains why it didn’t see a Japanese release.
I was a SNES guy, but considering the immense power the Neo Geo had at the time, I'm impressed with the Genesis/jMegadrive versions. They really look playable and representative of the originals. Not like you could reproduce a SNES game well on an NES, or a Megadrive game on an 8bit Sega system.
I think that the Neo Geo hardware is a lot better than the Genesis from Sega, but the Genesis offers a better price performance ratio and also a much larger games variety, but I could highly recommend the Neo Geo hardware for fans of Fight and 2 D Space Shot em Ups, because in my opinion Mettal Slug, Blazing Star and also Samurai Showdown and Fatal Fury is probably one of the best things I was allowed to play on arcade hardware.
Even against the odds, the Genesis still manages to do some decent port conversations from the Neo-Geo which is really impressive. Any chance that anyone could have a crack to port a Neo-Geo game to the Genesis since the Demons of Asteborg did so at 117 Megabytes?
Can you do a video of the Sega CD ports of the Neo Geo as well? I think I did heard Sega CD version of Samurai Shodown managed to put some missing content from the Cartilage version.
I appreciate these videos and Sega Lord X's passion for gaming and gaming history. The Neo Geo was an absolute beast amongst home consoles, but that beast came with a monstrous price tag! At launch that console was $650, and I didn't know anyone who owned one. My two 2bd/2bt apartment was $650, so I couldn't justify blowing a month's rent on a gaming console. While the Neo Geo put out some memorable games, it was sorely lacking in some areas.The absence of licensed sports game was a big gaping hole in my opinion. There was also a huge lack of RPGs. Between the AES and the follow-on Neo Geo CD, there were only 3 Action RPGs. Sega eclipsed that total just with the Phantasy Star series. Clearly, SNK believed that everyone was going to have a house full of friends over every time they fired up the console. You can't really compare the Genesis and the Neo Geo AES fairly, for two big reasons. 1. Any 24-bit system is going to out perform a 16-bit system. Its like comparing the Collecovision to a Sega Dreamcast. 2. These systems were designed to do complete different things. The NG AES was designed to be a miniature version of SNKs arcade cabinets. The Genesis on the hand, was designed to be a true home console system. The Genesis was meant to run a wide variety of games and it did that very well. Some of the arcade ports were well done and some were so bad that they would've had to improve in order to be trash. Overall the Genesis sold more units and that speaks volumes about its design and market appeal. I have a multi-game Neo Geo arcade cabinet at home now, so I don't feel as though I missed out anything in the grand scheme of things. The AES is selling for $700-$1,000 online now. You can buy a licensed multi-game Neo Geo cabinet for the same price and truly have the arcade experience.
What i don't understand is why the zooming effect of Art of Fighting was not there. Of course MD doesn't have the scaling hardware, but it was the biggest selling point of that game and they could've tried to fake it. Taking that away Art of Fighting is just a routine fighting game. The PC-Engine version faked it. It reminded me After Burner, where the weaker PC-Engine faked the zooming of the aircraft carrier and the aerial fueling plane, and MD didn't bother to try. Oh, and also Altered Beast.
Super Baseball 2020 may seem like a gimmick but the gameplay is A+. Every bit as good as Baseball Stars 2 on Neo Geo that is also excellent. They are both games that sports fans and people who don’t like sports could enjoy equally. 2020 moves so fast and the Genesis does a great job keeping that pace…if only real baseball was that fast paced.
I loved Samurai Shodown on Genesis, but I was really expecting a port with all players and zoom on SegaCD. When it was released with the same limitations as the Genesis version, I gave up on the SegaCD.
Man Art of Fighting was an AWESOME fighting game in the arcade. There was nothing else quite like it; the style, the gameplay, the super fast punch/kick special moves were so much fun to execute. I did play the genesis version and, yeah it's bad. A shell of the former game. Sorry you didn't dig World Heroes; I would play part 2 a lot in my youth, very fun game, perhaps you'd prefer that one over the first. Great vid as always my man.
@@fabiojuniooliveira6862 Now that you mention it, I remember it WAS the SNES port I played, not the genesis. I had both systems, and a lot of the ports of games I usually liked a bit better on SNES so rented AOF for it instead of Genesis.
Love how you’re making comparisons. You mentioned size constraints. Who determined how much memory they could use for a game? Also, why didn’t the publishers just use more memory to help improve the games on the Genesis?
Just to add, ROM chips were very volatile in price. There were several shortages and price fluctuations. Publishers would have sales projections and have to balance that out with the price to manufacture and distribute carts. The difference in ROM size could make the difference in profitability. For example, Super Turrican on SNES was cut down to a small ROM due to moderate sales prospects. Another example is a game called Mad Stalker. It was planned in 1994, but there was a price spike for ROM chips and the game could not be reduced from 16-megabits so it was cancelled. It was finally finished and released in 2020(it was already available for other systems at least). Those market considerations were a big issue back when the systems were current.
For me, the appeal of King of the Monsters 1 was getting to fight video game analogues of King Kong and Godzilla against one another. Taking Woo out of the ports negates that entirely.
Man you really nailed Samurai Showdown. It looks good, really good for the Genesis but God damn does it play bad. Not even close to the original Neo Geo! Great video brother!
Hmm Viewpoint... I picked that up a few years ago for PS1. It's one of my half dozen or so longbox games. I'd be curious to see a comparison of all the various ports, particularly how well that version stacks up on the more powerful hardware. I have Fatal Fury 1+2 & Samurai Shodown on Genesis. They're a bit rough from what I remember the last time I played, but when the hell is a Neo Geo going to fall in my lap these days? I actually found all these games at a local retro game store several years ago on the cheap, fat chance that's even going to happen in today's age.
I can appreciate your channel a lot! I’ve been a gamer with history chops but never thought a whole channel like yours would work so well. Your enthusiasm for sega is applauded and appreciated.
Missed opportunity to have the intro be the NEO-GEO intro ending with "SEGA"
I remember seeing a neo-geo in the store as a kid and the $700.00 dollar price tag was insane. I won’t lie I wish I could have got it from the box art games I’ve seen.
Man I remember seeing this in the 90s, I had a PC and Sega MD, seeing the NEO GEO was like a wet dream but the games costed as much as 2 Sega Mega Drive consoles...
I come from the Netherlands and that thing was so expensive.
When this came out I was ten. My parents couldn't even afford a Sega Genesis let alone a Neo Geo, so I did odd jobs doing garden work over the summer to buy my Sega Genesis, and didn't buy a Neo Geo until 2016 when I picked up a Consolized MVS that was in an AES shell. Had to go that route because the MVS carts are less expensive (still expensive relatively speaking though) then the AES games.
@@FWDSUXARSE I have a consolized 2 slot. Mvs games is the way to go. Still very expensive especially if there are complete matching kits. I used to have an Ωmega but it had poor RGB image quality and sold it
I remember asking for it for Christmas. I obviously never got it. That today is like 1,600 dollars.
I really love the fatal fury 2 port on the genesis. The music in my opinion is even better than the arcade and I feel like the genesis version plays slightly faster as well which is why that’s the port I always go back to play. Definitely a better port than the mediocre snes port for sure. Too bad we couldn’t get fatal fury special on the genesis.
Thank you! Completely agree
I have to say I disagree. The Neo Geo have amazing music potential.
100%
I'm not sure if I'd say it plays faster than the Neo Geo original, but owning both versions for real hardware, I definitely think it plays better. I find that it's much easier to pull off special moves and combos than the original, and the AI is toned down enough to make it bearable in single player.
Fatal Fury 2 was never meant to be played as a speed game, and the SNES nails the aspect of that, as well as the scoring system. I also don't like how healthbars take longer to take down on the Genesis version, takes too long to take opponents down. The speed code and juggle codes also turn the game into a clown show, so I never use those codes as I feel both break the game.
I do love SLX's honesty on SS here, he notices the same things about the game that I do.
I won't lie I always laugh whenever I hear you rip a bad game apart. You do it in such a stylish, professional manner... Your Wild Woody review is still one of my favorites for that reason.
Agreed!
Oh come on you do lie.....atleast sometimes
Fatal Fury 2 was one of my faves on the Genesis. I rented it quite a bit. The drums on that version are sick as hell and generally the music. Never got a chance at playing the Neo Geo for the price but damn that system looks like a powerhouse.
One of the few reviewers that has played it all from the outset. This is rare. You walk the line perfectly between taking the hobby seriously enough while not taking yourself too seriously. Your work is appreciated homie.
The Genesis had some fantastic Neo Geo conversions. I’d even go as far as calling them the most accurate conversions, even accounting for the 3D0 and x68000
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@TrueSinister Sure, the Genesis can't touch either of those visually, but I think the Genesis versions feel more true to the Neo Geo originals in gameplay. Same goes for the SNES ports: They look and sound closer to the originals, but they gameplay isn't there. Even with the cutbacks in mind, I usually prefer the Sega versions.
I dunno, I think that depends on the ports, some are way better than others
Fatal fury 2 is a fantastic port on genesis. I believe it has a better soundtrack than even the arcade port and it seems to play faster as well.
Some games on mega drive ain't bad, but the best way how to play Neo Geo games without emulation or real Neo Geo Hardware is Dreamcast and second is Saturn.
Never knew how big the differences are between Genesis and NeoGeo. Big respect to the NeoGeo for its power.
It wasn't hard to put together specs that trounced all of the mass market 16-bit consoles. They were specked around being sold for $200 (90's dollars), requiring countless compromises. The Neo-Geo cost over three times as much and so did each of its games (due to the crazy ROM sizes). All arcade systems thoroughly trounced the mass market consoles back then. Still, the difference between home and arcade specs was less than in the 8-bit days and many talented developers were able to create reasonable approximations of arcade games on those $200 consoles, working with much less ROM too.
Good to see videos from you man, they haven't been popping up on my feed lately! I played a majority of these games on my Genesis when they were released, which made me a fan of Neo Geo and SNK as a whole; still am today. I played the hell out of SamSho and Fatal Fury 2!
Less colour, sure. But the CRT screens masked that out a bit. Especially the dithering. A clever use of atrificial colouring.
The Neo-Geo could technically display 4096 colors on screen at once vs. 64 for Genesis, though I don't think any games got anywhere near that - though the average neo-geo game would have at least twice the onscreen colors of the Genesis max.
@@yellowblanka6058 Such an overkill :). 256 colours on screen is enough for games (looking at VGA, but those are even from a fixed palette). Maybe NEO-GEO had games with photographs in mind. (If so, glad it was never rialized :)
It shows what kind of an absolute beast the NEO GEO was.
Man I remember seeing this in the 90s, I had a PC and Sega MD, seeing the NEO GEO was like a wet dream but the games costed as much as 2 Sega Mega Drive consoles...
Haha I LOVE World Heroes on the Genesis!
I grew up playing World Heroes and Fatal Fury 2 on the Genesis and love both of them to this day!
Yeah, the Neo Geo was way ahead of all other gaming systems in the early 90s. However, the Neo Geo console just wasn't a practical consumer purchase back then due to its exorbitant price. It seems like the developers did the best they could with the Genesis hardware and it was really the only feasible way for most people to play many of these Neo Geo classics at home. I had _Samurai Shodown_ on the Genesis and it was a blast to play even if it was far from arcade-perfect!
I actually do appreciate them removing the zoom effect in _Art of Fighting_ on the Genesis! That effect always just gave me a headache when I played it in arcades! 😅
I decided to try the original fatal fury on the Genesis one day, which I was skeptical about after trying the crappy snes version. Needless to say, I spent many an hour on that game. Not to mention fatal fury 2 as well, which I thought had a better combo system than the original arcade game. Unfortunately I can't say the same as samurai showdown, as I thought the super nes versions were much better. Granted though, the Genesis always has, and always will have a hell of a sound system. Thanks for covering this, oh and I've been an avid kof, sf, and Tekken player for over 30 years now. Haven't slowed down one bit, I also heard SNK is working on a new fatal fury. I honestly can't to get my hands on it
I know it's outside of the scope of this discussion, but the Neo-Geo was an odd machine. It had to use sprites to make up its backgrounds (whereas the Mega Drive uses 8x8 tiles), it didn't support transparency (SNES) or shadow and highlight (MD), and its 3D capabilities were non-existent... but it had sheer brute force power to get around most limitations (and the cartridge space to facilitate it), and its sound chip really is what the Mega Drive's should've been, to the point that you could probably recreate the majority of Mega Drive soundtracks on the Neo Geo, but I think it's fair to say that graphically speaking, Neo Geo ports of Mega Drive games wouldn't be so straightforward either (not that we had many).
YES!!!! This is what I was wafting for you to cover!
Awesome video comparison. As a kid of the 80s and 90s, it was really cool to see those two side by side. Keep up the good work!
Oof, that high pitch sound at 10:53 threw me off for a bit, it was SO LOUD... I'm 37 and I still could hear it loud and clear! I wonder if the younger audience could hear it even more screeching!
And it was during one of the best ports as well, that Art of Fighting port honestly feels better than the original in so many ways it might as well overall just be better.
Great video!
Man, I have such fond memories of my mom renting a Neo Geo for me from time to time. Ghost Pilots was my fave game for the system and I was always hoping to see it ported.
Awe, I still love the Samurai Shodown port on the Genesis, played the heck out of it and think it still holds up, overall impressive to me considering.
Nice though on Super Baseball 2020
I also played it a lot, but that slow down was hard to get past. I guess I was just lucky that we didn't have arcades so I couldn't play the original. But like Street Fighter on SNES vs Sega - with SNES basically being a slide show at times.
I was expecting Genesis to look like ass compared to Neo Geo but it holds up very well in many games
I’m surprised Sega didn’t use blast processing to speed up the game?
Really not that great. Ripped out half the moves.
SNES SNK ports were better sounding and more colorful but Genesis ports were more fun to play. Especially Art of Fighting.
I still can't get used to how capacity is mentioned in megabit instead of kilobytes and megabytes. Using them since the early 80s it is so weird. Regardless, got to admit the genesis had great power for what and when it was.
Mannnnn there was nothing like going to the arcade in the 90's and seeing a NEO GEO MVS.. I would always check to see if they updated any of the games. Growing up on military basis, you would see these things everywhere from the shopette to the exchange.
Good times!
Yup. I was always excited to find an MVS cab just to see what was in it.
Man I used to play Metal Slug and Magical drop all the time on any Neo-Geo cabinet I could.
The Neo Geo is one system I always wanted to buy back in the day. Now I have a ton of Neo games emulated on disks for my Sega Dreamcast. I have most of them. The Baseball is Phenomenal! I love the Metal Slug games. Just bought Metal Slug Anthology on the PS4-5.
Bringing KOF Dream Match 99 to the table was really uncalled for. lol
Hope you check sometime on that fan made KOF 98 prototype for the Genesis.
I always wanted a Neo Geo as a kid but never had one. Nobody I knew owned one, either. Where I lived, one was a Sega kid or a Nintendo kid.
Back then, I played Art of Fighting on the Genesis. I was never any good at it, though.
Boy, gone are the days of aggressive ads. Nowadays, these would be censored, cancelled, if even considered.
I grew up in Los Angeles as a kid, so I was exposed to all the best gaming had to offer, import shops, arcades, anime, etc. So I knew of the Neo Geo from the start, and one of my friends even had one, so I got to play it pretty regularly. The same way home versions of Street Fighter 2 were never going to match the arcade 1:1, the game play did, and that's what was important. A lot of the home translations of the time did well enough to bring the Neo Geo experience home, and the Genesis/MD was no different. Great video for sure, and maybe as a follow-up, you could do the SNES conversions, and see how they match up. Or maybe even SNES Vs Genesis in regards to conversions, and who had the better ones?
The SNES / Genesis could have had VERY good ports of these... if they were willing to produce $200 cartridges with enough ROM space.
Arcade storage rom cartridges. Especially every single arcade game released on the snes and the genesis.
Most of these were very good ports on the Genesis
Dang it, that's it, I'm making a NEO GEO cabinet even if it kills me!
Edit: Amazing idea for a video and you absolutely killed it!
I always wondered why a lot of the earlier Neo Geo games were never ported to any of the 16-bit consoles. I always wanted home ports of Magician Lord and Cyber-Lip, but it just wasn't to be.
yes I agree. some of the earlier neo Geo games probably would've ran quite well on the Genesis/mega drive hardware. not sure why they were adamant about stuffing the much larger 100+ mega bit games on 16 megabit cartridges. I guess it all boiled down to the obvious factor: Money.
@@Old_Man_Jay The problem is that a game like Magician Lord for example is way less popular than an Art of Fighting or Fatal Fury, which might explain this.
Fatal Fury 2's an interesting beast on the Genesis. It was completely rebuilt, and allows absolutely absurd combos.
The Neo Geo is the most powerful thing ever created
Giga power!
Its a pocket calculator compared to a modern Phone
@@worsethanhitlerpt.2539 That's not what he meant. He meant that compared to everything that existed back then, it was incredibly overpowered and ahead of its time. The 2D was even better than what we had on the Saturn and PS1, which were released 5 years later.
10 years later, some games were still being made for the Neo-Geo, looking incredible and with better gameplay than modern consoles.
We'll never see such a phenomenon again. It was definitely the most powerful console ever released, compared to the rest.
Neo Geo AND Genesis, in ONE video?!? Stop playing with my heart!!
It's easy to say that the developers "shouldn't have removed this" or "shouldn't have changed this" when doing the ports from one console to another, but unless you're in their shoes you don't really know what sort of limitations they had to deal with in order to make a port work on weaker hardware. It seems like for the most part these ports were done really well, but of course there had to be compromises made.
Hey sega lord x are you ever going to review Shinrei Jusatsushi Tarōmaru for the Saturn?
No plans to do so right now. Maybe in the future.
@@SegaLordX sounds good looking forward to it
The best era of gaming hands down. Everything strived to be arcade perfect, but nothing apart from the NEO GEO ever was. You went to the arcades to be amazed, and hoped your home console got a decent port. It’s not the same these days 😬
I keep saying this, the 90s are the golden age of gaming.
@@buckroger6456 oh for sure! Such strides were made during that decade. The significance of which have never been replicated in later decades, in my opinion
@@RetroRespawn 100%. The huge jump in graphics from 8bit to 16bit was just crazy. Then we seen a bunch of CD tech come into play that started to show us what games could look like and sound like with this new tech. The jump to 32bit with the PS1 was just mind blowing at the time.
The 90s is the era in gaming that I find myself going back to play the most and personally feel like those games just hold up so well.
And then there was Strider...
@@Artimidorus Strider was great, I bought it when I got my first Megadrive. That running down the mountain bit. Something so simple but so effective.
Wait, I thought the Genesis didn’t have slow down? And blast processing was a thing? Apparently they did on some of the Neo GEO games.
By Sega logic Neo Geo had super blast processing as its Blast processing chip was 12mhz instead of 7.
You weren't lying about that World Heroes port for the Genesis. I forgot it even existed until I saw it in your video, that's how bad it was.
I remember playing samurai Shodown with friends never even notice the difference between arcade and 16 but it was done very nicely 😊
What a great day to start off in the morning with breakfast and coffee and sega lord x!!!!
And on the sega Dreamcast birthday of 9/9/22. Thank you sega lord x. I guess I’ll be playing some bro Geo games on my Dreamcast today.
On a side note, Fatal Fury on the Game Gear was surprisingly good. Samurai Shodown is also on Game Gear, but I can't recall how well it played.
I’ve had my Neo Geo AES for many, many years. It’s definitely a powerful console and I really enjoy it but back in the 90’s the Genesis was my go to for pretty much all my gaming and I truly felt the Genesis, TG-16 & SNES held their own vs the Neo Geo especially when you consider the sheer volume of AAA games released on the 16bit consoles. Sure, when comparing the exact same game on Genesis vs Neo Geo it’s pretty obvious the Neo Geo is king but those games were developed for the Neo Geo so anything else is a mere port on far less powerful hardware so you can’t expect port perfection. But when it comes down to similar game categories or genres the Genesis library is leaps and bounds better than the Neo Geo library. Just my opinion but it’s based on the consoles that I own which includes the Neo Geo AES
Streets of Rage 2 & 3 are far better games than Mutation Nation, Robo Army or Sengoku 2
I appreciate anytime somebody gives super baseball 2020 a shout out lol I had it on genesis and Super Nintendo definetly played the genesis version more for some reason lol
You even had my wife laughing during your "World of Heros" review! 🤣. Here's a question for your next "Ask SLX" video...I'm curious about your intros. Who does them and who's voice do we hear sing 🎶Sega🎶?
Neo geo was a beast, awesome machine
For me it was like bigfoot, you always heard about it and heard from a friend of a friend's former roommate who knew someone that has one, but yet you never seen one in the flesh. I use to want a Neo Geo way back then but gotta admit, there really wasn't much on the system I wanted to play back then.
I'd argue the Fatal Fury 2 soundtrack is one of the best on the console. Highly underated...don't think so? Give the theme songs a re listen.
Fatal Fury was on the Genesis before Capcom brought Street Fighter 2 over, and in my craving for a fighting game, I picked it up and never looked back. Fatal Fury was great on the Genesis. Sure it was a downsize, but it was so much fun until we got Street Fighter 2 and Mortal Kombat.
I almost forgot how amazing the Neo Geo is, wow!!!!! 🔥
wow they put big bear in the genesis of fatal fury 2! and the music on that stage sounds pretty good on the sega
It would be interesting to see how much the Megadrive versions could be improved if cartridge size
limitations are removed as we can today.
The Neo Geo is timeless, I love playing my consolized MVS, and it’s fun to collect those gigantic carts. I wish there was a Genesis port of Neo Turf Masters.
Neo Turf Masters is the ONLY golf game that I've ever loved, and still play it all the time.
SNK brought their titles to rival systems because they never viewed the Neo Geo as a competitor to the completion but rather a luxury product for arcade enthusiasts.
SNK brought it to console cause they were never competing in the home console space to begin with. It's the same deal with Sega before the 16-Bit era. Sega was releasing their games everywhere even on NES, they only stopped doing it when they were competing with the Super NES otherwise they always allow their games on every platform. Thunderforce III, Puyo Puyo, Columns, Frogger, and a Stalker game all end up on Super NES for some reason.
sega lord should do a series called "when the genesis was so good, it could have been in arcades" i like to submit lightening force and contra hardcorps as initial candidates.
SNES fan here. The Fatal Fury port on the SNES was bad, mostly because it was missing moves for all the characters and had a muddled soundtrack. The Genesis version may have left out Hwa Jai and Billy Cane, but played way better.
The SNES port of World Heroes was better, but wow was it sluggish. At least all the characters had their move sets intact. Also the port of its sequal was excellent and was an actual improvement in speed and playability, making it a great port.
Thanks SLX!
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All the Sega Genesis had to do to compete with SNK's NEO·GEO:
Be created as an equally advanced console that runs 'System 32' games such as Rad Mobile, F1 Exhaust Note, Golden Axe Revenge, SegaSonic, Dark Edge, Burning Rival, and Jurassic Park: Arcade. (16-bit doesn't stand a chance)
They did make a monster 2D Arcade hardware it was based on the Saturn but then Sega worried about the spec of PS1 so they added on more chips to the saturn complicated the system and third party developers wanted to do 3D more than 2D. Sega could of just concentrated on 2D and co exist with and not compete with the 3d market.
Neo Geo on GENESIS
1. ART OF FIGHTING
2. FATAL FURY
3. FATAL FURY 2
4. KING OF THE MONSTERS
5. KING OF THE MONSTERS 2
6. SUPER BASEBALL 2020
7. SAMURAI SHODOWN
8. WORLD HEROES
9. VIEWPOINT
I played The Christ out of these. Fatal Fury 2's port was godly.
I remember getting a Game Pro magazine that talked about the release of Samurai Showdown for Genesis and I was so pumped! I was too young to really know how bad it was compared to the original. I still treasure that memory and the excitement I felt when I finally bought the game and played it. I know you're a Sega guy but I think it would be cool to get a companion video of how the SNES versions of the SNK ports faired.
The Neo Geo hardware itself actually wasn't that much more powerful than the MD. It had the same amount of RAM and the same CPU, just clocked at 12 Mhz instead of 7,6 (same as the Sega CD btw.).
The real meat was in the software: cart sizes were regularly in the three-digit range, containing all the fancy animation, scaling and rotation effects, with "KoF 2003" topping the bunch at a ridiculous 716 MBit which amounts to almost 90 MB! This of course drastically drove up retail prices too, making the NG totally uncompetitive to Sega and Nintendo.
On the MD (and SNES of course too) however developers had to work in the exact opposite direction. Since ROM space cost money, devs had to streamline and compress their software codes. So carts that were officially marketed as 8 Mbit or 16 Mbit often had actually double the rom size or more.
1:08
That's true in more ways than one. They look bigger than vhs tapes. 😂
I´m actually a World Heroes fan, including the Genesis version. I do feel handicapped playing the Genesis version, though--I can´t spam the fast low kick like I did in the arcade version.
SLX, this is a great video - with storage being 'cheap' these days it would be interesting to see how newer developed games on the Genesis/MD stack up against the Neo Geo if the ROM sizes were identical. Although differences in sound are guaranteed as the Neo Geo's sound chip is better.
That said it was a wrap for the Genesis/MD back in the day when the Neo Geo moved to ROM sizes in the triple digits.
@Dances Rainy Streets the larger Genesis/MD ROM could help this. Neo Geo was essentially a 16bit system.
It wouldn’t do much at all. The Genesis fanboys have this fantasy that a bigger cart would make things so much better and comparable to a system that is obviously much more advanced. Yeah, maybe you would get a few more things on screen, sprites, and maybe a couple of extra colors or detail, but it won’t be nowhere near close. hell, the Genesis was even limited compared to the SNES. The thing that that helped the genesis was having a pretty decent processor.
@Dances Rainy Streets actually, there are home brew ports of sonic that actually run pretty fast on the SNES hardware. Almost comparable to the Genesis. I don’t think the SNES was pushed to its full capabilities and some homebrew ports are proving that. The Genesis problem was its limited color palette, and even according to this UA-cam video, the Genesis was slowing down on some games. Any games that ran polygons on the Genesis look like total pixelated garbage. But in all fairness it was the same with the SNES, and yes, it did need a special chip to run polygons.
@Dances Rainy Streets I think if they had a chance to tweak the sonic game on the SNES, I think it would be quite comparable to the Genesis.
Yeah.. AOF wasn't as "nice" looking but I thought it played better than the OG game and SNES version, and it felt faster.
Snes got a nice Fatal Fury Special, Art of Fighting 2, World Heroes 2 and Sengoku.
Originally King of Fighters 94 and Metal Slug were planned for the Super NES and Sega Genesis but got canned in favor of the 32-Bit systems. For KOF 94 it was going to dropped the USA and China team and for Metal Slug it would only feature just Tarma only and was going to be a single player title with a health meter instead of a one hit kill unlike the NeoGeo.
I know this is sega lord x, but I know you also have a thing for Nintendo etc as well. Could you follow this up as soon as possible with the SNES Neo Geo conversions too as a three way detached comparison? I've had some of them, like Samurai Shodown and World Heroes and they made a far better showing on Nintendo, strange, given the Genesis hardware is closer in ways. These days I don't have SS and WH on SNES anymore, have the actual arcade machine for some years now so I grabbed the originals but my familiarity with the titles makes me ask as I think it would be a fair showing of it.
May I tell you that World Heroes was not developed by a Japanese studio, it was developed by Sega Midwest Studio from Sega of America. Explains why it didn’t see a Japanese release.
I was a SNES guy, but considering the immense power the Neo Geo had at the time, I'm impressed with the Genesis/jMegadrive versions. They really look playable and representative of the originals. Not like you could reproduce a SNES game well on an NES, or a Megadrive game on an 8bit Sega system.
I think that the Neo Geo hardware is a lot better than the Genesis from Sega, but the Genesis offers a better price performance ratio and also a much larger games variety, but I could highly recommend the Neo Geo hardware for fans of Fight and 2 D Space Shot em Ups, because in my opinion Mettal Slug, Blazing Star and also Samurai Showdown and Fatal Fury is probably one of the best things I was allowed to play on arcade hardware.
These are pretty watered down ports, once the Saturn came around that's when you got some pretty accurate ports of Neo Geo
Agreed. However; the Ps1 port of Samurai Showdown 3 is almost arcade perfect. (As long as you can handle the ridiculous loading times.)
Even against the odds, the Genesis still manages to do some decent port conversations from the Neo-Geo which is really impressive.
Any chance that anyone could have a crack to port a Neo-Geo game to the Genesis since the Demons of Asteborg did so at 117 Megabytes?
Love this bring me back....................................
Baseball 2020 is awesome on the Snes. It doesn't look or sound good at all on the Genesis.
Samurai Showdown, back in the day? I got the 3DFX version, which was far more enjoyable; however, I respected the Game gear version.
I'm honestly surprised that Psycho Soldier wasn't ported to the Genesis. That would have been perfect... or not.
Please make a neo geo on SNES next! or Neo Geo on Saturn!
I think he did neo geo on the Saturn already. Samurai shodown 4, the real boy fatal fury’s and KOF 95-97 were the highlights
Great video, thank you. To my mind Fatal Fury 2 est the best port of a Neo·Geo game on Genesis. Great improvement of the gameplay
Can you do a video of the Sega CD ports of the Neo Geo as well? I think I did heard Sega CD version of Samurai Shodown managed to put some missing content from the Cartilage version.
The only problem they took out the referee on the Sega cd version.
Samurai Slodown on Genesis :O
Great review once again! As a huge Sega fan I always enjoy seeing side by side comparisons and man were these great! Awesome video!
Same here. I love the Sega Genesis and how we often got two completely different games from Snes to Genesis.
At 12:50 I almost thought I was listening to the angry Nintendo nerd
4:01 - Viewpoint
5:36 - Fatal Fury
7:13 - Fatal Fury 2
8:57 - Art of Fighting
11:03 - World Heroes
I appreciate these videos and Sega Lord X's passion for gaming and gaming history. The Neo Geo was an absolute beast amongst home consoles, but that beast came with a monstrous price tag! At launch that console was $650, and I didn't know anyone who owned one. My two 2bd/2bt apartment was $650, so I couldn't justify blowing a month's rent on a gaming console.
While the Neo Geo put out some memorable games, it was sorely lacking in some areas.The absence of licensed sports game was a big gaping hole in my opinion. There was also a huge lack of RPGs. Between the AES and the follow-on Neo Geo CD, there were only 3 Action RPGs. Sega eclipsed that total just with the Phantasy Star series. Clearly, SNK believed that everyone was going to have a house full of friends over every time they fired up the console.
You can't really compare the Genesis and the Neo Geo AES fairly, for two big reasons.
1. Any 24-bit system is going to out perform a 16-bit system. Its like comparing the Collecovision to a Sega Dreamcast.
2. These systems were designed to do complete different things. The NG AES was designed to be a miniature version of SNKs arcade cabinets. The Genesis on the hand, was designed to be a true home console system. The Genesis was meant to run a wide variety of games and it did that very well. Some of the arcade ports were well done and some were so bad that they would've had to improve in order to be trash. Overall the Genesis sold more units and that speaks volumes about its design and market appeal.
I have a multi-game Neo Geo arcade cabinet at home now, so I don't feel as though I missed out anything in the grand scheme of things. The AES is selling for $700-$1,000 online now. You can buy a licensed multi-game Neo Geo cabinet for the same price and truly have the arcade experience.
What i don't understand is why the zooming effect of Art of Fighting was not there. Of course MD doesn't have the scaling hardware, but it was the biggest selling point of that game and they could've tried to fake it. Taking that away Art of Fighting is just a routine fighting game. The PC-Engine version faked it. It reminded me After Burner, where the weaker PC-Engine faked the zooming of the aircraft carrier and the aerial fueling plane, and MD didn't bother to try. Oh, and also Altered Beast.
The PCE port could also give you headaches as the zoom was just constant changing of screen resolution.
Super Baseball 2020 may seem like a gimmick but the gameplay is A+. Every bit as good as Baseball Stars 2 on Neo Geo that is also excellent. They are both games that sports fans and people who don’t like sports could enjoy equally. 2020 moves so fast and the Genesis does a great job keeping that pace…if only real baseball was that fast paced.
I loved Samurai Shodown on Genesis, but I was really expecting a port with all players and zoom on SegaCD. When it was released with the same limitations as the Genesis version, I gave up on the SegaCD.
Man Art of Fighting was an AWESOME fighting game in the arcade. There was nothing else quite like it; the style, the gameplay, the super fast punch/kick special moves were so much fun to execute.
I did play the genesis version and, yeah it's bad. A shell of the former game.
Sorry you didn't dig World Heroes; I would play part 2 a lot in my youth, very fun game, perhaps you'd prefer that one over the first.
Great vid as always my man.
AoF has a fast gameplay on Genesis Port. I think its better than Neo Geo/Snes
@@fabiojuniooliveira6862 Now that you mention it, I remember it WAS the SNES port I played, not the genesis. I had both systems, and a lot of the ports of games I usually liked a bit better on SNES so rented AOF for it instead of Genesis.
Love how you’re making comparisons. You mentioned size constraints. Who determined how much memory they could use for a game? Also, why didn’t the publishers just use more memory to help improve the games on the Genesis?
Money. Bigger games were more money to develop and produce.
bigger (larger) games with more memory cost more $ to develop, make, produce then the cost is passed onto us
Just to add, ROM chips were very volatile in price. There were several shortages and price fluctuations. Publishers would have sales projections and have to balance that out with the price to manufacture and distribute carts. The difference in ROM size could make the difference in profitability. For example, Super Turrican on SNES was cut down to a small ROM due to moderate sales prospects. Another example is a game called Mad Stalker. It was planned in 1994, but there was a price spike for ROM chips and the game could not be reduced from 16-megabits so it was cancelled. It was finally finished and released in 2020(it was already available for other systems at least). Those market considerations were a big issue back when the systems were current.
Also I prefer the snes version of King of the monsters, sorry x, but the Genesis ports aren't anywhere near as good
Another great video. I used to love World Heroes and World Heroes 2 in the arcade. Such a let down on the Genesis.
For me, the appeal of King of the Monsters 1 was getting to fight video game analogues of King Kong and Godzilla against one another. Taking Woo out of the ports negates that entirely.
Man you really nailed Samurai Showdown. It looks good, really good for the Genesis but God damn does it play bad. Not even close to the original Neo Geo! Great video brother!
Hmm Viewpoint... I picked that up a few years ago for PS1. It's one of my half dozen or so longbox games. I'd be curious to see a comparison of all the various ports, particularly how well that version stacks up on the more powerful hardware.
I have Fatal Fury 1+2 & Samurai Shodown on Genesis. They're a bit rough from what I remember the last time I played, but when the hell is a Neo Geo going to fall in my lap these days? I actually found all these games at a local retro game store several years ago on the cheap, fat chance that's even going to happen in today's age.
The Genesis holds a special place in all our hearts, but it ain't no Neo Geo
King of the Monsters was my first game ever. My mind was blown when played the Arcade version on PS4, was almost like a whole new game.
Awesome 👍
These Genesis ports are the reason why I bought an AES back in the day.
Matt oughta do World Heroes (the Sega Genesis version) on the worst fighting game as he did with Mortal Kombat on the Game Boy Advance.
A lot of western made fighters were terrible back in the day after all.
I can appreciate your channel a lot! I’ve been a gamer with history chops but never thought a whole channel like yours would work so well. Your enthusiasm for sega is applauded and appreciated.