remember guys at the 3 minute mark on this video. he adds a topical layer... that alone will create the heat barrier. but a reinforced water mix will help the structure for heat. This cast is very weak, non baring and will crack under duress. My advice is to cast your project and protect the cast from external elements, like water and pressure. Think eggshell wrapped in cotton and bricked in... otherwise its a go..and a win for the fire community... believe me the info here alone is worth a zillion in building fireplaces...
@@oozification yes if it's done with cast method with the water glass and and such but remember it will take the heat but will be brittle after first heat. Do no knocks 😎
Thank you so much. Firebricks is too expensive. I'm actually laughing at myself at how ridiculous the ingredients are. Water glass or sodium silicate are what in our locality called ash water...used in noodle making and dye fixing. Basically can be bought everywhere at the food store. How liberating can knowledge be. Just a quick question. If I pour them into formwork for a furnace or kiln, is it ok to use chicken net or shredded steel wool as reinforcement?
That actually sounds like a great idea to add the chicken wire or steel wool for reinforcement! I might try that out and show a comparison of with and without.
@@PenMeister-tq3lm Ash water is Potassium hydroxide, also called lye, but not chemically the same as Sodium hydroxide. Sometimes it is really important to actually use the chemical names.
I like your process. By seeing your forge I have some safety concerns for you. The fire blanket needs to be encapsulated with a liquid rigidizer so that you protect your lungs. Very dangerous to breath in the fibers.
@@SizzlingIngot Want to keep you healthy for some more awesome videos. :-) May be able to find smaller quantities elsewhere. Currently living in France and paid 75 euros for 5 liters from the only supplier in France. Stay safe and best regards.
Forgive my english. Does such a brick have good insulating properties in addition to fire resistance? Is it suitable for building an electric kiln? I mean, won't the walls get too hot?
It has excellent insulating properties and I'm sure it will handle the heat well. I'll currently waiting for the arrival of fire clay that I want to incorporate into the mix. The current mix is a bit brittle and I hope the fire clay with mitigate that and also rise the working temperature. I'll be uploading the video of how it works out once its tested.
Hey! Thank you for the video! I have a question about this method. The finising touches with the waterglass, water mixture, is it a plus material, or the ratio contains it? Thanks in advance! :)
I don't know if casting silicon will be easier than casting glass. Glassy silicate things are always blown and not casted. Obsidian has lots of silicon and no one could cast it into decorations or swords.
Would this work well for lining a paint can furnace for aluminum melting? It won’t be used often so longevity isn’t a concern. More of a proof of concept for fun thing. And I’ve seen a similar slurry made that they cured in the oven. Is this possible with this mixture?
Literally white cement. Most Portland cement is a gray color like you're used to. However for artisan concrete applications there is a white concrete which allows coloring. Chemically there's really no difference between your typical white or gray. I believe they just used white, to match the typical white color of fire bricks.
@@tablesandtorches762 yes I was also wondering about using white vs standard grey cement. From what I have read it would make no difference other than look & feel.
Hi. I made this mix but the surface flakes when heated. Bits of perlite I think. Can I paint more sodium silicate again onto the surface a couple of weeks after being cast?
Much better is if you can find ball clay or fireclay or kaolin clay. Mix with sodium silicate only 10% is needed, you can add graphite if you want excellant thermal conductivity.
@@AS-ug2vq I mixed red clay with sand and sodium silicate and lined a steel barrel with the wet mix to make a wood fired tandoor.... Excellent results!! I did not test other methods so I cannot compare
paolo zannetti that is sodium silicate (water glass). When heated it turns to a clear glass-like material, and makes a sealant for concrete and acts as a glue inside the mix! It also draws water from the mix but keeps it trapped to help speed the portland cure.
Perlite is widely used as insulation as well and usually much cheaper compared to perlite for horticultural use. Just take care that it's not coated/impregnated, may cause problems.
Im gathering matl for my project oven..i already bought plaster of paris..in your recipe you used wht cement..can i sub the POP instead of wht cement? Thanks
Good enough brick for the casting of bronze. For crucible steel, I would just use an old-school blast furnace made from clay which looks kinda like a termite nest. That would mean that I prefer charcoal for casting steel, yes.
Where u get sodium silicate at for water glass still trying to figure out recipe no luck. And how much I pay 4 K wool. Subscribe at nasty melts. Thk u nice furnace.
the recipe i use for sodium silicate for a few years is 200 gm caustic soda 300 gm silica gel with 500 ml of distilled water it makes a very thick sticky brew i then dilute it with distilled water for different applications
I have a question , I want to build a masonry cookstove that needs insulating fire bricks on the inside. Will this brick work, will it be insulating enough ?
I don’t have the chemical make up of each to compare blends but I would assume they both would perform almost identically . It was more of an esthetic thing for me
@@SizzlingIngot You are at risk here. You must coat kaowool with protective layer. You are at HIGH risk for caner here. This is foolish. Do not purchase from scAmazon and make sure to coat your wool.
The White cement used here is NOT refractory cement. Its simply white Portland that has no more heat resistance than grey. True refractory cement powder is a mix consisting predominantly of hydraulic calcium aluminates. Although both use limestone in the process its in very differnt forms.
So I landed here because I'm researching ways and materials to make a pizza oven. Question: Do you think this is a good mix for that purpose? How insulating do you think this material would be?
I'm in the process of making one now. I'm using perlite 4x + dry cement 1x + clay 1x + H2O 1x for the interior of the oven. Then a layer of rockwool or ceramic wool for increased heat retention and insulation and finally an outer layer of cement and sand for the exterior.
Just have to focus on the safety factor since the pizza will be lying directly on your brick mixture, there will be dust from the bricks that could end up in the food, are your brick ingredients food safe out do you add something over your home made bricks to make them safe???
How does this hold up if it gets wet? I am casting an outdoor rocket stove and this looks like it should do well for me, but the last mix I tried crumbled when the snow started to melt on it.
you would need to cover it after you finish building it with a water resistant material. You should be good with regular cement (just make sure it's water resistant after it dries out)
remember guys at the 3 minute mark on this video. he adds a topical layer... that alone will create the heat barrier. but a reinforced water mix will help the structure for heat. This cast is very weak, non baring and will crack under duress. My advice is to cast your project and protect the cast from external elements, like water and pressure. Think eggshell wrapped in cotton and bricked in... otherwise its a go..and a win for the fire community... believe me the info here alone is worth a zillion in building fireplaces...
do you think I can use it for pizza oven ?
@@oozification yes if it's done with cast method with the water glass and and such but remember it will take the heat but will be brittle after first heat. Do no knocks 😎
Mix the dry ingredients before adding liquid
Thank you so much. Firebricks is too expensive.
I'm actually laughing at myself at how ridiculous the ingredients are. Water glass or sodium silicate are what in our locality called ash water...used in noodle making and dye fixing. Basically can be bought everywhere at the food store. How liberating can knowledge be.
Just a quick question. If I pour them into formwork for a furnace or kiln, is it ok to use chicken net or shredded steel wool as reinforcement?
That actually sounds like a great idea to add the chicken wire or steel wool for reinforcement! I might try that out and show a comparison of with and without.
@@PenMeister-tq3lm Ash water is Potassium hydroxide, also called lye, but not chemically the same as Sodium hydroxide. Sometimes it is really important to actually use the chemical names.
Fire bricks are like 2.06$
@@peterellis4262
Sodium hydroxide is not sodium silicate.
@@rubygray7749 never suggested it was.
Just learning, can this mix be used to make firebricks for my DIY BBQ/Grill?
I like your process. By seeing your forge I have some safety concerns for you. The fire blanket needs to be encapsulated with a liquid rigidizer so that you protect your lungs. Very dangerous to breath in the fibers.
Thanks for the heads up Mh Byers! Is there any product out there that you would recommend for me?
@@SizzlingIngot www.walmart.com/ip/Simwool-Rigidizer-Refractory-coating-for-Ceramic-Fiber-Blanket-1-Gallon/350977758?wmlspartner=wmtlabs&adid=22222222222341303660&wmlspartner=wmtlabs&wl0=e&wl1=s&wl2=c&wl3=75385392985771&wl4=pla-4578984931651332&wl5=&wl6=&wl7=&%20wl10=Walmart&wl12=350977758_10001035869&wl14=rigidizer&veh=sem&msclkid=c797378bebd7108256eb684ffab57a03
@@SizzlingIngot Want to keep you healthy for some more awesome videos. :-) May be able to find smaller quantities elsewhere. Currently living in France and paid 75 euros for 5 liters from the only supplier in France. Stay safe and best regards.
@@mhbyers3920 I'll definitely give this product a shot
@@mhbyers3920 Thank you Mh Byers, and I did find it in Amazon in smaller quantities
Forgive my english. Does such a brick have good insulating properties in addition to fire resistance? Is it suitable for building an electric kiln? I mean, won't the walls get too hot?
It has excellent insulating properties and I'm sure it will handle the heat well. I'll currently waiting for the arrival of fire clay that I want to incorporate into the mix. The current mix is a bit brittle and I hope the fire clay with mitigate that and also rise the working temperature. I'll be uploading the video of how it works out once its tested.
Hey! Thank you for the video!
I have a question about this method. The finising touches with the waterglass, water mixture, is it a plus material, or the ratio contains it?
Thanks in advance! :)
Hi, Is this pure 100 percent glass water or can I use the 50 percent glass water sold at Home Depot ?
Glad i found ur channel
When he started pressing the mixture into the mold it started barking at him.
Can these be used for a masonry heater?
Thank yuh you sir. I have subscribed. Are your measurements by volume or by weight? Thanks
By volume and thanks for subscribing
@@SizzlingIngot you bet. Thanks for the good novel and concise info.
Еxcellent! I am a woman. Need to make an insert into a wood burning stove. Hope i can make it with your video guidance.
Thanks, sir. :)
Can we used this to make a slate for oven baking?
I think the water glass is really understated here, I can’t wait to try your recipe!
First time hearing about water glass. I'll have to look into that
Water glass holds up in things that would normally crumble
Ye what exactly is water glass? I get bad results when searching. 😅
@@davidavery3182 sodium silicate, it’s commonly sold as a concrete sealant. It works well as a high temperature adhesive.
@@seabeepirate thanks i need to make some custom bricks for a electric kiln and there's lots to learn 😁👍
At the end, I'm thinking Catsup and Mayo...🤤
Haha
Receipy:
200ml waterglas
30ml NaOH liquid
50ml water
100😂g ash from powerstation
100g gbfs ( slag from steel factory)
100g perlite
100g vermiculite
Can I ask a dumb question, if they insulate against 2100. Wouldn't they be awesome insulation for a house or work shed, winter or summer?
Hi sir please help..is this brick an insulating material?? Can i melt silicon of 1423 celcius melting point in a furnace made out of your bricks??
I don't know if casting silicon will be easier than casting glass. Glassy silicate things are always blown and not casted.
Obsidian has lots of silicon and no one could cast it into decorations or swords.
Would this work well for lining a paint can furnace for aluminum melting? It won’t be used often so longevity isn’t a concern. More of a proof of concept for fun thing. And I’ve seen a similar slurry made that they cured in the oven. Is this possible with this mixture?
I bet it would, even if it fails, it won’t require much material
Do you believe it is possible to use a router to cut grooves for kanthal wire?
Great video thanks 😊
What was in the squeeze bottle??!! Was that the water glass?
Yes
Can I use it in the incinerators ?
That's mean is that a REFRACTORY brick?
Looking for a way to get rid of the bodies ?? Gotcha 😉
someone somewhere is wondering where their sewing kit went
What exactly is "White Cement"?
Literally white cement. Most Portland cement is a gray color like you're used to. However for artisan concrete applications there is a white concrete which allows coloring. Chemically there's really no difference between your typical white or gray. I believe they just used white, to match the typical white color of fire bricks.
@@tablesandtorches762 yes I was also wondering about using white vs standard grey cement. From what I have read it would make no difference other than look & feel.
@@pierrec.dussault2138 it is stronger and it is much more alkaline
the angle grinder part made my tooth hurt
Would this mixture be safe for making pizza oven?
Would this work for a brick oven floor,
Like if I wanted to build a brick oven for pizzas, would it hold the heat??
Hi. I made this mix but the surface flakes when heated. Bits of perlite I think. Can I paint more sodium silicate again onto the surface a couple of weeks after being cast?
Much better is if you can find ball clay or fireclay or kaolin clay. Mix with sodium silicate only 10% is needed, you can add graphite if you want excellant thermal conductivity.
@@AS-ug2vq I mixed red clay with sand and sodium silicate and lined a steel barrel with the wet mix to make a wood fired tandoor....
Excellent results!!
I did not test other methods so I cannot compare
Consider a thin coating of satanite.
Waterglass = sodium silicate solution. Often used in ceramic making. Can be ordered on Amazon (In the USA at least).
Thanks!
COSA SAREBBE QUEL LIQUIDO NELLA BOTTIGLIA PICCOLA???
Eu estou tentando descobrir qual é o líquido nesse plástico que você expremeu na mistura.
@@victorprangecampos74 жидкое стекло или силикат натрия
paolo zannetti that is sodium silicate (water glass). When heated it turns to a clear glass-like material, and makes a sealant for concrete and acts as a glue inside the mix! It also draws water from the mix but keeps it trapped to help speed the portland cure.
What the max temperature that laser gun can read
Does anyone know what water glass is?
Sodium silicate and sodium hydroxide.
Sodium silicate
is this brikc safe to use in brick ovens for cooking ?
What are the dimensions and weight of the brick?
I'm a new subscriber. Was 399 before me.
Is possible to build coppar forge with this material?
good lookin fellow sparky ua-cam.com/video/ZuRn4mGxLas/v-deo.html
What is the name of the machine you used to test the brick?
Its a propane melting furnace like this one
ua-cam.com/video/1_wmr_coylE/v-deo.html
Awesome, where can I get perlite and water glass?. Thanks.
Perlite can be found at most places where plants and soil are sold. I have a video on how to make your own water glass at home that you can check out.
@@SizzlingIngot thanks
Perlite is widely used as insulation as well and usually much cheaper compared to perlite for horticultural use.
Just take care that it's not coated/impregnated, may cause problems.
1/2 part water and 1/2 part water glass?
Water glass = Sodium Silicate
We hoped to make a kiln, I like this!
Why did you use the ingredients that you did? Why use white cement over grey?
There is no difference in white and grey other than the color and cost in this case
Great work, how did you make that 🔥 box?
Could you poor a dome for a pizza oven with this mix?
ty awesome vid
What does perlite do?
Im gathering matl for my project oven..i already bought plaster of paris..in your recipe you used wht cement..can i sub the POP instead of wht cement? Thanks
It think it will work but won’t be as strong as the cement. Can you reply back with what you find out once you give it a go or run a test. Thanks
@@SizzlingIngot what is the name of the white cement did you use ?
Good enough brick for the casting of bronze. For crucible steel, I would just use an old-school blast furnace made from clay which looks kinda like a termite nest. That would mean that I prefer charcoal for casting steel, yes.
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Where u get sodium silicate at for water glass still trying to figure out recipe no luck. And how much I pay 4 K wool. Subscribe at nasty melts. Thk u nice furnace.
the recipe i use for sodium silicate for a few years is 200 gm caustic soda 300 gm silica gel with 500 ml of distilled water it makes a very thick sticky brew i then dilute it with distilled water for different applications
100% lye and 100% silica gel
why white cement?
I have a question , I want to build a masonry cookstove that needs insulating fire bricks on the inside. Will this brick work, will it be insulating enough ?
Yea I want to know this aswell trying to build a pizza oven over here
Refractory brick has a poor insulative value
what is water glass?
Sodium Silicate
is white cement superior in this case to normal grey cement?
I don’t have the chemical make up of each to compare blends but I would assume they both would perform almost identically . It was more of an esthetic thing for me
Where did you purchase your kaowool?
Got it from Amazon.
Lynn Manufacturing Kaowool Ceramic Fiber Insulation, 1" ... www.amazon.com/dp/B07ZQPM7JK/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_api_glc_fabc_Iq73FbHXPB7F7?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
@@SizzlingIngot You are at risk here. You must coat kaowool with protective layer. You are at HIGH risk for caner here. This is foolish. Do not purchase from scAmazon and make sure to coat your wool.
What is water glass?
Water glass = Sodium silicate
@@sitijulaiha3393 thankyou
What would it harm using your typical grey portland cement versus using the white cement you have listed here?
It reflects more then grey, so it doesn't heat up as much, which saves thermal expansion and contraction, which leads to breakdown of the brick.
Normal masonary portland mortor has a heat resistance of 2500
Is that refractory cement?
If you read it upsidedown, it says white masonry cement.
Refractory cement is a broad term. It could be aircrete.
The White cement used here is NOT refractory cement. Its simply white Portland that has no more heat resistance than grey.
True refractory cement powder is a mix consisting predominantly of hydraulic calcium aluminates. Although both use limestone in the process its in very differnt forms.
What is water glass?
Jason Powell - Sodium silicate is also known as water glass
So I landed here because I'm researching ways and materials to make a pizza oven. Question: Do you think this is a good mix for that purpose? How insulating do you think this material would be?
I'm in the process of making one now. I'm using perlite 4x + dry cement 1x + clay 1x + H2O 1x for the interior of the oven. Then a layer of rockwool or ceramic wool for increased heat retention and insulation and finally an outer layer of cement and sand for the exterior.
Just have to focus on the safety factor since the pizza will be lying directly on your brick mixture, there will be dust from the bricks that could end up in the food, are your brick ingredients food safe out do you add something over your home made bricks to make them safe???
@@kerrywright8950 I wasn't planning on getting food safe bricks, I didn't even know that bricks weren't food safe.
Why do you use white cement and not portland cement ??? Thanks
It’s just for looks in my case
@@SizzlingIngot Using white any easier than portland ??? Do you need to do any special preparation for the white ?? Thanks
@@SizzlingIngot Thanks
portland is not high temp worst stuff to use, just cause you can buy it 1/2 mile from your house does not make it the right stuff
@@rippinscreamingmetal O.K what is the best adhesive to use instead of portland cement ??? White cement way better ???? I am just asking Sir. Thanks
How does this hold up if it gets wet? I am casting an outdoor rocket stove and this looks like it should do well for me, but the last mix I tried crumbled when the snow started to melt on it.
you would need to cover it after you finish building it with a water resistant material. You should be good with regular cement (just make sure it's water resistant after it dries out)
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