For anyone who may be still listening out there, "Sportster knee" from Ironhead days, was "always" caused by riders who did not know what they were doing. I rode kickstart models for many years, and never got "Sportster knee", because an old timer clued me in when I was new to it. And I listened. There's 3 things to this... You 'MUST' keep your bike 'tuned properly'. That means carb jetted corectly, points in proper adjustment, and tappets adjusted. If you ride to work daily, you should be adjusting & lubing your points once every month or two. If you don't, it will become a chore to start it, needing 'multiple kicks, & ample cussing.' It' s 'your fault'. E-Starts will still start fine out of adjustment to quite a degree, but not a "CH" ! Also, it's best to adjust the tappets at the same time you do the points, for max ease of kick starting. If you don't want to fool with it, you bought the wrong bike. Sell it & go buy a honda. Do those things & you should not have to kick it more than 3 times to start it... 5 times & you should stop kicking & look for the problem. There is one. (provided you primed properly) Ok, SECOND... when you pump it up on compression, 'never take your weight off the pedal again !' Almost everyone lifts their weight off the pedal when beginning to come down on the kicker pedal - "THERE'S THE PROBLEM !!" Train yourself NOT TO DO THAT ! Thats when the kicker gears disengage, & when you come down on it, there' s nothing there ! OR if it's kicking back, it's either TOO ADVANCED, or TOO LEAN ! When you set the timing, just put the mark on the flywheel right in the 'middle of the hole' , for best starting, etc. THIRD- Train yourself to NEVER LOCK YOUR KNEE when you come down on the kick pedal... Aways keep your knee bent just a little ! If it falls through, or kicks back , you won't fuck up your knee ! This info was shared freely with me by a great Sportster builder & racer named Sportster Tom Whiteman, and now he has given it to you as well. It has served me well for 50 years. He passed away 2 winters ago on New Years Eve. Spread the wealth as you go through life. Thats what he did.
@@jackgallowtree relocated to forward controls location.. underneath the cover .. see "forward controls brake relocation video" for Harley Davidson Sportster 😎 cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0097/0506/2447/products/large_3391_ledsedkickersportster_394x.jpg?v=1588912167 Also here is a Better location under pipes on 1990's bike... ua-cam.com/video/XEiOUAkaYVM/v-deo.html
@@TERRY72763 the point was this video is incomplete ! Typical company selling half a kit , figure the rest out your self i guess , im sorry but if your going to sell a kit , make it complete , all 90s sporties have the rear master in that spot so why make half a kit , sell a relocate bracket with it , or maybe thats too hard for them to figure out ?
I would love to have a kickstart on my sporty just like i used to have one on a shovelhead that i had in the past but what turn me off about this kick start kit is the lack of a relocation mount for the 91-03 sportster.
Call led sled. They have a relocation bracket that mounts to the cam cover. Use a front brake line to get rid of the stock metal brake line and use a wired banjo bolt set up to give your bike the electrical brake signal. See tc bros or lowbrow for that set up. I have this kit installed on my 01 sporty. Did it muself in my garage. Order a mid control brake rod..i run foward controls and set up works perfectly. The kit also comes with the pedal. Says it doesnt ln the website but mine came with one.
original kick starters were infamous to kick back destroying your legs. remember the sportster knee?? this works in a different manner, does it give the same problems??
Hey guys preorder here for a 88 sporty 883 converted to a 1200 if you ever decide to make one for my year. I was going to purchase this until I saw the years this covers. I plan on building another one anyway. This time I will pick up a 91-03 sporty 1200 very interested in getting this . thanks for all your effort in bringing this to market.
Awesome kit! I'm thinking about getting it for my 1200 xl1200c but my only question is if the electric starter can still be used? No one seems to specify if you remove it entirely or if you can use both the kicker or the starter
I don't understand how it works. You change the mainshaft and you thread in a gear. If the gear turns when you are kicking it over it would be turning the sprocket and the back wheel. I'm missing something. Obviously you figured out some ingenious design that works. You have me wondering exactly how it's all connected. I hope someday you make one for the '89 4 speed XL. Very cool feature. There were times I really wish I had a kickstart as a backup.
@TheNamehere21 Yes, by reading websites there would be lots of sportster bikers that firmly want this kit. I think that extendig it for 04 and up would be a winning business idea!! Great work Guys!!!!
I really want to kick my 2000 sportster 1200, but this looks a bit too involved for me. Hate discovering a dead battery and don't have a garage to run a tender, so I have to keep taking the battery out and bringing it indoors to tend. Or replacing it
Kickers aren't a great way to deal with totally flat batteries, because dead batteries heavily load the charging system and if you have a shorted cell you can fry parts. There's another, excellent way to light off bikes you don't ride often. I use a JNC jump start pack (avoid Walmart and other chain store cheapshit) for any vehicle. I bought one after using them at a used car lot. JNC doesn't use delicate switches or tiny cables. www.cloreautomotive.com/JNC.php
How the best choice to order Kicker kit. I ordered Kicker kit in january and till now September not yet information when done....very slowest respon from Led.
Ohhh Jesus! I though this is Led Sled Customs kick start kit on ebay for 329.95 bucks! I bought and installed it already, ...even on the box was Led Sled Customs written....it came from Smyrna, Tennessee to Canada. Chinese knockoff in my Sportster, NOW I'M PISSED!!!!! How comes the U.S. & Canadian customs aloud this??? No U.S. patent on this?
@@jimmycann160 It worked at the beginning well, now the spiral spring is tired and the kicker doesn't come back quick and only half way :( NO WARRANTY ON THAT THING! Looks like the space for the bearing was drilled to big? The bearing has no function somehow, the kicker turns with the whole bearing around :D
Is there a tool to remove the sprocket if ever need to be work done on transmission. U tight it with hand but don't think u be able to remove it with hand. Looks like great product tho
Very cool. I don't know why I thought they weren't available for late evo sportys. Now, I know I'm going to get a sporty. I had one and sold it. I don't know why :( The really cool thing about your video is it's a 5 speed, and I saw the flimsy trap door, which, on mine, will be upgraded to the thick 5 speed one. Anybody got an '03 Sporty for sale?
Please excuse the stupid question. Can this be done on a 2017 Sporty? Mine's been sitting at the dealership since early May waiting for a back ordered part, if I had a kickstart all would be fine.
well I guess my birthday witch is next tuesday the 30th, well I just aquired a 1200 evolution sportster motor , witch replacing my 1971 ironhead motor, on my old school chopper project, with a paughco rigid frame, so I"m gonna be running the new 1200 motor instead of the old motor,
I know, without the trapdoor is not possible to use this kit. the only way is to use the E-starter gears, I don't know with which effect...Ok, We'll see
LedSledCustoms ledsledcustoms can you produce a kicker kit for 04+ sportsters?? I have a 2012 48 that I want a kick on. I plan on building in the future but I want this for my current bike.
I'm new to motorcycles. My purpose for wanting a kicker is as a backup in case the battery dies while I'm in a remote area of Alaska. Will the kicker work even with a dead battery?
you only need enough charge to create spark. in my kick only '76 i can let it sit for a couple weeks before its too weak to make enough spark. w/that said, if you run an electric starter/ signals/ whatever else besides basic head and tail light, in my experience will kill your battery fast while you're trying to kick it if it's not already at a good charge. my 2 cents
Ctnewman on Instagram make a magneto kit for sportster cam covers. So you can go batterlyess. New magnetos give enough spark to start everytime and keep tail and headlight running bright.
Lol ya real clear 🤔 where do i put my rear master now hmmmm🤔 what seal was that he removed from inside the engine 🤔 how do those gears go together , ah never mind i always use electric anyway ........this was as clear as mud !
Bs6.0pstroke_ 28 Ah thanks, it's a shame as I like the idea of having two starting options, on my other bike the starter failed but I could still get to work because it had a kick as well!
I called ledsledcustoms- they make a relocation bracket so it mounts under the timing cover. You have to find a mid-control brake rod, revise the brake lines, & powder coat or paint the bracket.
Ya I used led sled relocation bracket that mounts to the cam cover. Then I used my old front brake line to get rid of the stock metal brake line. I ordered a mid control brake rod through Harley and works nicely. The stock brake line runs into a solenoid for your electrical brake signal but now places like tc bros and lowbrow sell banjo bolts that have wires that give that electrical signal straight from the master cylinder. Really easy to install.
PopeWorm 36 Harley no longer have the "trapdoor" after model year 2003. You need to pull the engine out & split the cases to access gear clusters on 2004 & later model Sporties. Money saving by the Motor Co.
For anyone who may be still listening out there, "Sportster knee" from Ironhead days, was "always" caused by riders who did not know what they were doing. I rode kickstart models for many years, and never got "Sportster knee", because an old timer clued me in when I was new to it. And I listened.
There's 3 things to this... You 'MUST' keep your bike 'tuned properly'. That means carb jetted corectly, points in proper adjustment, and tappets adjusted. If you ride to work daily, you should be adjusting & lubing your points once every month or two. If you don't, it will become a chore to start it, needing 'multiple kicks, & ample cussing.' It' s 'your fault'. E-Starts will still start fine out of adjustment to quite a degree, but not a "CH" ! Also, it's best to adjust the tappets at the same time you do the points, for max ease of kick starting. If you don't want to fool with it, you bought the wrong bike. Sell it & go buy a honda. Do those things & you should not have to kick it more than 3 times to start it... 5 times & you should stop kicking & look for the problem. There is one. (provided you primed properly) Ok, SECOND... when you pump it up on compression, 'never take your weight off the pedal again !' Almost everyone lifts their weight off the pedal when beginning to come down on the kicker pedal - "THERE'S THE PROBLEM !!" Train yourself NOT TO DO THAT ! Thats when the kicker gears disengage, & when you come down on it, there' s nothing there ! OR if it's kicking back, it's either TOO ADVANCED, or TOO LEAN ! When you set the timing, just put the mark on the flywheel right in the 'middle of the hole' , for best starting, etc. THIRD- Train yourself to NEVER LOCK YOUR KNEE when you come down on the kick pedal... Aways keep your knee bent just a little ! If it falls through, or kicks back , you won't fuck up your knee !
This info was shared freely with me by a great Sportster builder & racer named Sportster Tom Whiteman, and now he has given it to you as well. It has served me well for 50 years. He passed away 2 winters ago on New Years Eve. Spread the wealth as you go through life. Thats what he did.
THE SWORD! Man! I love their music.
I havent heard them in a while.
You mean Kyuss?
I just got my kicker in the mail, serial number 083, its solid and comes with everything you need. Its awesome, really worth the price
your electric start will remain intact and usable
Looks like the rear master cylinder needs to be relocated to SOMEWHERE. They don't mention that
That's the only reason I watched this video for in hopes of finding out what that deal is but no dice
@@jackgallowtree relocated to forward controls location.. underneath the cover .. see "forward controls brake relocation video" for Harley Davidson Sportster 😎
cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0097/0506/2447/products/large_3391_ledsedkickersportster_394x.jpg?v=1588912167
Also here is a Better location under pipes on 1990's bike...
ua-cam.com/video/XEiOUAkaYVM/v-deo.html
@@TERRY72763 the point was this video is incomplete ! Typical company selling half a kit , figure the rest out your self i guess , im sorry but if your going to sell a kit , make it complete , all 90s sporties have the rear master in that spot so why make half a kit , sell a relocate bracket with it , or maybe thats too hard for them to figure out ?
@@4486xxdawsonor too hard for you to figure out how to fab…
That is absolutely brilliant thinking! You guys rock!
mr.patterson your are a genius, now I start piling money to order that kit!
I would love to have a kickstart on my sporty just like i used to have one on a shovelhead that i had in the past but what turn me off about this kick start kit is the lack of a relocation mount for the 91-03 sportster.
Call led sled. They have a relocation bracket that mounts to the cam cover. Use a front brake line to get rid of the stock metal brake line and use a wired banjo bolt set up to give your bike the electrical brake signal. See tc bros or lowbrow for that set up. I have this kit installed on my 01 sporty. Did it muself in my garage. Order a mid control brake rod..i run foward controls and set up works perfectly. The kit also comes with the pedal. Says it doesnt ln the website but mine came with one.
original kick starters were infamous to kick back destroying your legs. remember the sportster knee?? this works in a different manner, does it give the same problems??
Yes. It hurts lmao
Hey guys preorder here for a 88 sporty 883 converted to a 1200 if you ever decide to make one for my year. I was going to purchase this until I saw the years this covers.
I plan on building another one anyway. This time I will pick up a 91-03 sporty 1200 very interested in getting this . thanks for all your effort in bringing this to market.
Awesome kit! I'm thinking about getting it for my 1200 xl1200c but my only question is if the electric starter can still be used? No one seems to specify if you remove it entirely or if you can use both the kicker or the starter
the starter remains with this kit
Buonasera va modificata anche l accensione?
Nice. But I guess it would suck for the one who would want to keep his mid controls. Any compensation for that?
I don't understand how it works. You change the mainshaft and you thread in a gear. If the gear turns when you are kicking it over it would be turning the sprocket and the back wheel. I'm missing something. Obviously you figured out some ingenious design that works. You have me wondering exactly how it's all connected. I hope someday you make one for the '89 4 speed XL. Very cool feature. There were times I really wish I had a kickstart as a backup.
There has to be an inner and an outer shaft...
good practice is to never press through a bearing without installing a new bearing afterward.
After it passes the spit test of course, unless water is used...
Fugazi in the back “my time is water down the drain “🙂
Subbed cause you used Kyuss in the background 🤘
Hey can we install a kick-start on a 2018 harley sportster iron 883....?
Let me know if you get to know
@TheNamehere21 Yes, by reading websites there would be lots of sportster bikers that firmly want this kit. I think that extendig it for 04 and up would be a winning business idea!! Great work Guys!!!!
due to no trap door on 04 and newer models its not going to happen
This is the best idea ever.
We don't have any other years in the works right now... maybe some day...
What about now?..since it's almost been a decade ago this comment was made!!
Bro you should be a professor,love it
I need one for an 1982 Ironhead!
I really want to kick my 2000 sportster 1200, but this looks a bit too involved for me. Hate discovering a dead battery and don't have a garage to run a tender, so I have to keep taking the battery out and bringing it indoors to tend. Or replacing it
Kickers aren't a great way to deal with totally flat batteries, because dead batteries heavily load the charging system and if you have a shorted cell you can fry parts. There's another, excellent way to light off bikes you don't ride often. I use a JNC jump start pack (avoid Walmart and other chain store cheapshit) for any vehicle. I bought one after using them at a used car lot. JNC doesn't use delicate switches or tiny cables. www.cloreautomotive.com/JNC.php
How the best choice to order Kicker kit. I ordered Kicker kit in january and till now September not yet information when done....very slowest respon from Led.
I was just listening to The Sword, and then I paused it to watch this video, and again The Sword is on... weird. Great taste!
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE make a 4 speed version!!!!!
Ohhh Jesus! I though this is Led Sled Customs kick start kit on ebay for 329.95 bucks! I bought and installed it already, ...even on the box was Led Sled Customs written....it came from Smyrna, Tennessee to Canada. Chinese knockoff in my Sportster, NOW I'M PISSED!!!!! How comes the U.S. & Canadian customs aloud this??? No U.S. patent on this?
Well does it at least work
@@jimmycann160 It worked at the beginning well, now the spiral spring is tired and the kicker doesn't come back quick and only half way :( NO WARRANTY ON THAT THING! Looks like the space for the bearing was drilled to big? The bearing has no function somehow, the kicker turns with the whole bearing around :D
@@uralguy5131 WOW 😳 that's crazy, and who is the company you order this from?
awesome music!!
I mean "The Sword - How Heavy This Axe"
But thanks anyway)
Is there a tool to remove the sprocket if ever need to be work done on transmission. U tight it with hand but don't think u be able to remove it with hand. Looks like great product tho
Very cool. I don't know why I thought they weren't available for late evo sportys.
Now, I know I'm going to get a sporty. I had one and sold it. I don't know why :(
The really cool thing about your video is it's a 5 speed, and I saw the flimsy trap door, which, on mine, will be upgraded to the thick 5 speed one.
Anybody got an '03 Sporty for sale?
WAIT! Ray Charles is BLIND!
I've got a 2002 XLH sporty 883 for sale!!
I've heard horror stories about the aluminum parts wearing out quickly on the it. What kind of warranty does this thing come with?
Led Sled Says It is a Lifetime warranty in its advertisements and Video's.
Please excuse the stupid question. Can this be done on a 2017 Sporty? Mine's been sitting at the dealership since early May waiting for a back ordered part, if I had a kickstart all would be fine.
the sword! nice
i can install for my 48 date 2019 to day?
Nice video !
It looks simple to do ;-)
I need one...maybe in a few months :-(
well I guess my birthday witch is next tuesday the 30th, well I just aquired a 1200 evolution sportster motor , witch replacing my 1971 ironhead motor, on my old school chopper project, with a paughco rigid frame, so I"m gonna be running the new 1200 motor instead of the old motor,
@LedSledCustoms hello ! is it possible to install a kick on 883 ?
yes
👍🤙
Hay can we install a kick starter on a 2018 model Harley iron 883.....?🤔🤔🤔
Does this work for the 2015 72 HD sportster
So I'm a potential new customer, Ledsled, my question is what is the difference between this kit and the eBay kit? .. Thanks!!
cool vid and I love the tunes. I dig all those bands!
Can you put a kicker on the baker 6 speed?
Y'all still sale these?
i want the sporster 883 2014 i use the kick start, can you help her?
Hay can we install a kick start on a 2018 Harley iron883
I know, without the trapdoor is not possible to use this kit. the only way is to use the E-starter gears, I don't know with which effect...Ok, We'll see
I'm guessing that this would require foreword controls.
no
Good music choice
LedSledCustoms ledsledcustoms can you produce a kicker kit for 04+ sportsters?? I have a 2012 48 that I want a kick on. I plan on building in the future but I want this for my current bike.
P.s. I won't buy that foreign knock off junk brotha. Fuk those mothafukkas!!! All American all day!! Thanks for doing what you all do.
I'm new to motorcycles. My purpose for wanting a kicker is as a backup in case the battery dies while I'm in a remote area of Alaska. Will the kicker work even with a dead battery?
you only need enough charge to create spark. in my kick only '76 i can let it sit for a couple weeks before its too weak to make enough spark. w/that said, if you run an electric starter/ signals/ whatever else besides basic head and tail light, in my experience will kill your battery fast while you're trying to kick it if it's not already at a good charge. my 2 cents
Ctnewman on Instagram make a magneto kit for sportster cam covers. So you can go batterlyess. New magnetos give enough spark to start everytime and keep tail and headlight running bright.
Good clear info, thank you.
Lol ya real clear 🤔 where do i put my rear master now hmmmm🤔 what seal was that he removed from inside the engine 🤔 how do those gears go together , ah never mind i always use electric anyway ........this was as clear as mud !
Would this work on an 04 883?
Bonjour quel prix pour un kit ? Sportster 1994 ! Merci
can this be done with a newer injected model?
great vid thanks for posting.
03 and up sportys cannot have a kickstart, they are desighned so that the motor turns over 3 times before sending power to the spark plugs.
Bs6.0pstroke_ 28 Ah thanks, it's a shame as I like the idea of having two starting options, on my other bike the starter failed but I could still get to work because it had a kick as well!
I think there are aftermarket ignition systems that solves this...
this kicker works on all sportsters 92 to 2003. 2004 and later models cant use tjis kit
This is a great help u video... Cisco
Would the kicker work with the stock exhaust?
Does it still have the electric start with that kit?
Yes
What did you do with the rear master cylinder?
I called ledsledcustoms- they make a relocation bracket so it mounts under the timing cover. You have to find a mid-control brake rod, revise the brake lines, & powder coat or paint the bracket.
Ya I used led sled relocation bracket that mounts to the cam cover. Then I used my old front brake line to get rid of the stock metal brake line. I ordered a mid control brake rod through Harley and works nicely. The stock brake line runs into a solenoid for your electrical brake signal but now places like tc bros and lowbrow sell banjo bolts that have wires that give that electrical signal straight from the master cylinder. Really easy to install.
Radical
Great vid, great work!
b.t.w. whats the intro song, who knows?
7 years later you get an answer. Waiting Room Fugazi
I wish there were a way to add a kicker to a 4 speed sporty, but there isn't
@Jeremy B. explain please. Just picked up a 90 883.
Cool vid. Y'all see my cafe build vids? Don't watch the early ones.. haha
why did led sled stop at 03 on the kicker kit??
PopeWorm 36 Harley no longer have the "trapdoor" after model year 2003. You need to pull the engine out & split the cases to access gear clusters on 2004 & later model Sporties. Money saving by the Motor Co.
oh...that sucks!!!
So that's a no to my just asked question then?
Correct,
You need to pull the engine out & split the cases to access gear clusters on 2004 & later model Sporties.
Can users 2011 HD 883r
got it
Kyuss "One inch man"
fugazi!
How come this wont work with an 89 evo?
They're 4-speed so the shaft is probably different.
(Might be other reasons too.)
@@ziiofswe,
Their not They are
I have a Baker SIX speed transmission on my sporty. Do you think it is possibile to install kickstarter anyway?
i have kind of the se question mines a baker 6spd right side drive could i install a kickstart on it?
yes this kit will work with the baker xl6 speed
Kyuss!
Hey cousin
Kyuss 🤟🤟🤟🤟
Do you make the kicker for a 05 Sportster
No one does. You cant remove the transmission in the 2004 and newer Sporties unless you split the case.
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