It is looking a lot like the Sierra Club is running the Forest Service. The roadless initiatives have necessitated the reinstitution of mule teams to get firefighters to fires in a few days instead of motor vehicles and aircraft getting to fires in a few hours. When my dad was a national forest supervisor, he had a considerable amount of autonomy. Today the Departments of Agriculture (Forest Service) and Interior (BLM, National Park Service) appear to be mired in bureaucracy and politics. Meanwhile the forests are in poor condition, salvage logging is held up by lawsuits until the trees rot, public land timber sales (which mostly funded the Forest Service) are rarely happening, causing many sawmills to close. Meanwhile building material prices are crazy, and I see daily trainloads of Canadian lumber.
Retired from the Beaverhead-Deerlodge National Forest and you are 100% correct. The very well funded environment groups stand in the way of EVERY logging project and drag those projects out in court until they burn up in a wildfire.
They'll be happy to let it burn and blame it on Climate change. That's the game. Obama era rules made it so fire roads were reduced to 50" ( inch)wide paths. I'd say 50' (ft)wide clearance would make forest management more effective.
Exactly ! A dei hire to lead the forest service who knows nothing about the forest service who then turns things over to the sierra club while he sits back on his fat ass in D.C. ! The Democratic Party is bunch of grifters looking to pilfer the system .
I am in California. The US Forest Service and Fish and Wildlife have destroyed the environment over 30 years. I am and have been an active outdoorsman since childhood. I have witnessed and seen the devastation. More CalFire but no public accesses. Government Unions need to go away. In the 1960's and 70's we had 1/4 of the Firemen and Equipment. The forests were maintained using Honor Camp personnel and management. Today, they need fires to support their retirement.
I grew up in N. California in the 50's and 60's. Even spent 2 summers working for what is now Cal Fire. We had the Magalia inmate crews. They work with individual stations and districts to help clear and maintain the state forest lands. UU Forest Service would start projects to manage their forest lands then suddenly stop. Many of the forest fires we fought started on US FOREST LAND. Just look what the Topanga fire in southern cal. did in less than 2 weeks. Forest fires are not new to Cal. But without forest management it's just a waste of time and money.
I just want to know when are they going to start listening to Trump and dampening the California forest to prevent forest fires. The part I am not sure is do we sweep the ground before or after the dampening.
DEI or not, whoever was selected would be incompetent anyway. There is not one single competent leader in the entire Biden admin. This is the most corrupt & incompetent administration in US history.
@@yrreteugarps2835 "Lieden" The only lie Biden told was to Wall Street when he said "nothing fundamental will change" and then he ended that Forever War the republicans deliberately lied us into so they could treat my brothers and sisters in arms as cannon fodder for no other reason than so Dick Cheney could get lucrative no-bid contracts making his company Haliburton fabulously rich. You're absolutely *fine* with the lies that cost ten thousand troops our lives. You're absolutely *fine* with two veterans killing ourselves *every single day* over your fucking lies.
@@ToddiGreat-le2qu When a land owner can't pay their taxes for usually years, the government sells the land to the highest bidder. It does not go to the government.
@@thomaswayneward there are lots of old houses places in NW Arkansas , smack dab in the middle of the National Forest taken during and after the Great Depression. You can trade land with the Forest Service but you cannot buy it. Doesn't that tell you they have all the money they need , they want all the land ? Can't print more land. Not trying to be argumentative but I know what I know. I'm talking history except for the trading but no buying from Forest Service , that still holds.
TREES; Trees work for us. Properly cared for, they are valuable assets worth three times your initial investment. This is from the Forest Service website. So now we know. It’s always about capital gains. 🥸
Reformed. America's forests need to be managed wisely, not for corporate profits. Any remaining wilderness areas need to be preserved, which is about 3.5% of America's original forests.
It is one of the worst DEI, incompetent agencies out there. Where I live there are 4x as many rangers as 10 years ago and 90% are young, know-nothing wokies with one agenda... keep all humans out of all government owned natural areas.
The U.S. Forest Service had a several month long forest fire near Beaver, Utah a few years ago and made no effort to extinguish it until citizens nbegan showing up at the local Beaver Valley Clinic myself being one of them at 2 a.m. receiving oxygen until 10 a.m. Sen. Mike Lee was one of those to cover up this wretched incident that was a threat to so many lives. SRM
@@tazmod7272 Retired as soon as I was vested. Management was most likely just as happy as I was for leaving. Used their rules against them all the way.
@@stupadasol5911I'm "white" and have a degree in Forestry with an emphasis on Silviculture. I started working for the USFS in 1988. I was always passed over for permanent jobs that were given to minority hires that were less qualified. I worked as a seasonal worker for 14 years and finally left and changed careers. I wish I could have experienced some of the "white privilege " you mentioned.
Congress talks but they refuse to use their power to shut down agencies. Why? Because they like the agencies, gives the congress more power. The talking is just grandstanding.
Biden (obama) democr@t commvn!st. Sorry about the spelling. I've learned that u. T. U. B. E. Won't let these 2 words appear together. They won't post it.
When you grow up as an inner city kid and never set foot in a national forest to fight fires, or work on a logging crew, or study agriculture or biology you get the "most qualified person" to run a major agency. What a disgrace we have created.
The more land they grab up the less anyone can buy . This drives up the cost of land . You need to send some people back or release the land for sale to the public .
This wilderness, or no human zones are part of agenda 2030 where 75 percent of all US land mass will be made off limits except to limited government officials.
What they also did in the 70s wilderness act is make sure most of the existing gold mines were put into wilderness areas to prevent anyone from mining the gold.
@@greybone777agenda 2020 and2030 thru the UN both signed on to by daddy Bush and every president since has followed suit. This agenda calls for wilderness corridors that consume 75 percent of all US property to be human free and off limits to everyone except government officials as deemed necessary.
My dad was a Forest Ranger for 36 years. He was on the Manti Lasal for 10 years. At 16 I worked at Utah Pine and milling. At 28, I was a process engineer for Weyerhaeuser Co. You cannot manage forests from Washington DC. You are dealing with mother nature and private business in a free country. Boots on the ground in a combat zone requires knowledge and experience in the military. Same with managing forests in the USA. Iguana Dave
@@rectorkirk1158Raw timber cannot be exported from USFS land. It has to at least be processed into cants before it can be exported. The USFS when I worked for them had a clause in the timber sale contract that mandated the USFS to follow the laws of the State of Washington.
@@daphnekivinen9482 Timber cannot be exported from federal lands. Timber cannot be exported from State of Washington trust lands (managed by the WA Department of 'Natural Resources) as well
Growing up in a concrete jungle never having set foot in the woods somehow in our screwed up world gets you the top job. I would be discouraged if I was a grunt working in the USFS.
That would also apply to most of he citizens. Case in point the genius in the Turks and Caicos just sentenced to 10yrs for having ammunition in his luggage. Sorry but ii doesn't take a PHD to thoroughly search your luggage before packing. When you miss a handful of metallic cartridges in the process you deserve the punishment the law calls for. But everyone seems to think the fella deserves a break?
The most common uses of property taken by the federal government in eminent domain have been for roads, government buildings and public utilities. Many railroads were given the right of eminent domain to obtain land or easements in order to build and connect rail networks. In the mid-20th century, a new application of eminent domain was pioneered, in which the government could take the property and transfer it to a private third party for redevelopment. This was initially done only to a property that has been deemed "blighted" or a "development impediment", on the principle that such properties had a negative impact upon surrounding property owners, but was later expanded to allow the taking of any private property when the new third-party owner could develop the property in such a way as to bring in increased tax revenues to the government. Let that last sentence sink in. Greed. Gov, for the Gov, by the Gov. This should be outlawed.
Time after time these senior bureaucrats appear before congress, they are evasive, uninformed or simply stonewall the questioner. I don’t understand why congress continues funding these agencies. Faced with a near zero budget, maybe these folks could answer some simple questions.
It is the same everywhere in the US, the DC government wants to shut out United States citizens from US government controlled land. Cut out access, cut out campgrounds, cut out trails. Most of the trails in the Teton National Park were built by private companies a hundred years ago; the PS has not built a new trail anywhere in the park, but they have shut down many trails or allowed them to deteriorate to the point they are unusable. At the same time employee housing and offices have been built everywhere in the park. A paved bicycle trail was built next to a highway for a few miles, but again that corals people together in a small area.
This guy couldn’t find his way out of petting zoo much less a national forest. The forest service thinks that by bulldozing fire roads then there won’t be a fire.
Do you remember the Yellowstone fire (circa 1988)? That was devastating simply because of the US Parks Service "hands off" policy. This USFS CLOWN wants to do the same to our National Forests...
I live in SC and love the Forrest service where I live. I reside In the National Forrest. These guys and gals are awesome. They are always doing control burns!
I hate that all the public land is restricted so much. I would like to be able to camp in the woods not in a campground around a bunch of campers and tents and paved roads.
When I first went to college I studied forestry. I was a child of the country, fields and forests. Later it was announced to us ; that "if you weren't one of the inner cities children that got summer programs for nature provided by the government and USFS then you were not going to be a forest ranger. You can get a job helping corporations get around government regulations." So how did that work out?
This land was my land this land was your land from California to the New York islands,from the Redwood forests to the Gulf stream waters... This land was made for you and me!
well don Sen. Lee. There will never be a final agreement with the "environmentalist" on Wilderness. They will continue to attempt to gain more acres of National Forest and Public Lands into the Wilderness System.
Great question! I wrote The Senator years ago asking why Forrestry road gates were being closed so soon before winter. Was as if the decision was being made at a desk 2000 miles away. Great to see this being discussed !
USFS takes control of land areas.... 9th circuit court rules against all logging operations in that area....forest dies from lack of logging.....fires ravage that land areas. Cycle starts over in another area, cycle repeats, same result. No logging (which is proper forest management) = no forest's. There CAN NOT be healthy, productive forest's with the federal government in control. ALL forest management MUST be the sole jurisdiction of the states and counties that those lands are within. There is no Constitutional authority for justifying the existence of the USFS, BLM or USDA or their having jurisdiction and authority over the States....period.
This black guy hasn't been in the woods a day of his life... Lmfao. Maybe he walked thru a park in the city a couple times... Joe Biden sure knows how to pick em. Best and brightest.....
This is not the fault of the bureaucrat. The fault lies with the Congress. The low-electoral count flyover states are at the mercy of the high-electoral count states. We are governed by a system unfettered by the Constitution. The people with an unreasonable passion for bugs and bunnies from the coasts can control the lands in the heartland where the consequence is borne by the people in the heartland. The Federal Government should not own any land outside of post offices, post roads, the District of Columbia, and lands purchased by the consent of the state legislatures for the erection of forts, magazines, arsenals, dockyards, and other needful buildings. You cannot find parklands, wilderness areas, forests, wildlife refuges, and nature preserves in the Constitution. That which is not enumerated is proscribed. Rudyard warned us, "That if once you have paid him the Dane-geld, you never get rid of the Dane."
He said dosn't know about the fire reduction aspect.. uh Moore began his career 1978 with the Natural Resources Conservation Service in North Dakota.[2] He eventually joined the United States Forest Service in 1981. He has held various positions in the agency, including regional forester for the Eastern Region in Wisconsin and forest supervisor for Mark Twain National Forest in Missouri. Most recently, Moore served as the Pacific Southwestern regional forester, managing 18 national forests in California spanning 20 million acres, as well as state and private forestry programs in Hawaii and the Pacific Islands.[3] Moore has been an advocate for utilizing vegetation treatment methods to reduce the risk of wildfire, rather than relying solely on logging. He believes that this approach can effectively decrease wildfire risk while preserving the natural beauty and ecological integrity of the forest. In addition to his advocacy of vegetation treatment, Moore has also focused on improving the pay and working conditions for firefighters, as well as increasing capacity and resources through partnerships with other agencies and organizations.[4
My dad worked for the forest service for many decades, and he was one of the very few people who actually gave a damn about doing things the way they were supposed to be done. In return the higher ups tried to get him to quit or get him fired. It was a complete bureaucratic shit show back then, and post Covid it’s gotten much worse. The whole damn government is like that, and it’s never going to change unless it’s punished by the people. I won’t hold my breath for that to happen.
I've spent decades in the outdoors particularly the forests of the Pacific NW. Never once have I seen an African functioning as an employee with the USFS, the state, or the county. Not once. But here we have an African calling the shots from the top. Something doesn't add up. Was this guy the absolutely most talented and qualified person to run this agency? I highly doubt it but have a strong belief he was selected under Affirmative Action because of his ethnic background regardless of qualifications. I would like to see his work history which shows that he, as a youth, fought fires, or patrolled wilderness areas, or worked with logging companies. I hope someday we get back to a merit based system so the best are rewarded.
Some people will never be satisfied until every last square yard of old growth forest is turned into pulp wood and 2x4’s, or paved over for Costcos and McDonalds. There is already more than enough forestry land for our needs. Mother Nature doesn’t need human help to maintain wilderness.
😂each time you hear um. It means they not added all the facts and scratching for bullshit to feed you. Real people don't hesitate to tell you like it is. They have no need to fill people heads with worthless shit.
No, he's not incompetent as some are commenting here. He is just following the orders of the wrong people. Namely those that are determined to "fundamentally transform the United States" and not in a Constitutional way! We all need to stop thinking and mouthing that these people are incompetent and start realizing and spreading the truth of the mater.
He took the bribes. And fet about 400 k a year. A free air plane to use, free vehichles, plus all the lobbying time in dc he wants to use. Lol govenment lobbying elected officials
The Forest Service provides what it's willing to do in multiple-choice proposals for the public, or non-forest service groups, for comments only after the choices are selected by the Forest Service without outside input.
I normally do not agree with any of the alphabet agency's except now.Actually some things are good for a forest. Like leaving fallen trees and leaves etc. There is a ton of living organisms that depend on the decaying natural debris. Cleaning up the forest floor kills the forest floor.
I'd be happy if the FS would enforce basic laws, such as: cracking down on people who are semi-squatting on public forest service lands by parking and LEAVING their RVs on primitive campsites...
It is looking a lot like the Sierra Club is running the Forest Service. The roadless initiatives have necessitated the reinstitution of mule teams to get firefighters to fires in a few days instead of motor vehicles and aircraft getting to fires in a few hours. When my dad was a national forest supervisor, he had a considerable amount of autonomy. Today the Departments of Agriculture (Forest Service) and Interior (BLM, National Park Service) appear to be mired in bureaucracy and politics. Meanwhile the forests are in poor condition, salvage logging is held up by lawsuits until the trees rot, public land timber sales (which mostly funded the Forest Service) are rarely happening, causing many sawmills to close. Meanwhile building material prices are crazy, and I see daily trainloads of Canadian lumber.
Retired from the Beaverhead-Deerlodge National Forest and you are 100% correct. The very well funded environment groups stand in the way of EVERY logging project and drag those projects out in court until they burn up in a wildfire.
I'm buying lumber from Menards that came from Sweden!
They'll be happy to let it burn and blame it on Climate change. That's the game. Obama era rules made it so fire roads were reduced to 50" ( inch)wide paths. I'd say 50' (ft)wide clearance would make forest management more effective.
Exactly ! A dei hire to lead the forest service who knows nothing about the forest service who then turns things over to the sierra club while he sits back on his fat ass in D.C. ! The Democratic Party is bunch of grifters looking to pilfer the system .
Amen, sir well put!
Just answer the question
I am in California. The US Forest Service and Fish and Wildlife have destroyed the environment over 30 years. I am and have been an active outdoorsman since childhood. I have witnessed and seen the devastation. More CalFire but no public accesses. Government Unions need to go away. In the 1960's and 70's we had 1/4 of the Firemen and Equipment. The forests were maintained using Honor Camp personnel and management. Today, they need fires to support their retirement.
Same in Wa. Usfs and state destroyed accsess. Unless you pay the rockymt elk foundation or ducks unlimited.
Nailed it!
Newscum's California
I grew up in N. California in the 50's and 60's. Even spent 2 summers working for what is now Cal Fire. We had the Magalia inmate crews. They work with individual stations and districts to help clear and maintain the state forest lands. UU Forest Service would start projects to manage their forest lands then suddenly stop. Many of the forest fires we fought started on US FOREST LAND. Just look what the Topanga fire in southern cal. did in less than 2 weeks. Forest fires are not new to Cal. But without forest management it's just a waste of time and money.
The entire western seaboard is a great example of how bad the U.S forest service is....
Government for the government by the government.
FJB
Alphabet mafia elitists
I just want to know when are they going to start listening to Trump and dampening the California forest to prevent forest fires. The part I am not sure is do we sweep the ground before or after the dampening.
Another incompetent DEI hire.
My words exactly. I'll add in another Lieden appointee though. We're being taken care of so well by this regime (sarcasm meant)
DEI or not, whoever was selected would be incompetent anyway. There is not one single competent leader in the entire Biden admin. This is the most corrupt & incompetent administration in US history.
"Will let you know how that go", dear heavens. Not even up to DEI standards.
@@yrreteugarps2835 "Lieden"
The only lie Biden told was to Wall Street when he said "nothing fundamental will change" and then he ended that Forever War the republicans deliberately lied us into so they could treat my brothers and sisters in arms as cannon fodder for no other reason than so Dick Cheney could get lucrative no-bid contracts making his company Haliburton fabulously rich. You're absolutely *fine* with the lies that cost ten thousand troops our lives. You're absolutely *fine* with two veterans killing ourselves *every single day* over your fucking lies.
He's a textbook incompetent
Fire him. If the Forest service can’t do it’s job get rid of the agency
Where does the US Constitution state the Federal government can own land?
Most of this happened after Lincolns war on the South. The DC government became all powerful and no one dared to confront them.
And during the depression , when people couldn't pay their taxes. Just the government being government
@@ToddiGreat-le2qu When a land owner can't pay their taxes for usually years, the government sells the land to the highest bidder. It does not go to the government.
@@thomaswayneward Not sure what gives government the right to do this.
@@thomaswayneward there are lots of old houses places in NW Arkansas , smack dab in the middle of the National Forest taken during and after the Great Depression. You can trade land with the Forest Service but you cannot buy it. Doesn't that tell you they have all the money they need , they want all the land ? Can't print more land. Not trying to be argumentative but I know what I know. I'm talking history except for the trading but no buying from Forest Service , that still holds.
After watching some of Bidens appointments. First, we should find out if he knows what a tree is.
TREES; Trees work for us. Properly cared for, they are valuable assets worth three times your initial investment.
This is from the Forest Service website. So now we know. It’s always about capital gains. 🥸
They were bipartisan approved so what's to look at? The genius Republican senators that helped vote them through have your best interests at heart.
"Trees? Dat's dem, uh, green thingies, right?"
First off, we have to ask the tree if they identify as a tree or some other object.
“I can’t provide a definition of tree. A tree is what Congress tells me a tree is.”
A disgraceful bureaucrat who doesn't deserve to be chief of the agency
Adding in disrespectful
That’s what Lee is . And he is an election denier .
Forest service needed to be dismantled.
One of many….
Reformed. America's forests need to be managed wisely, not for corporate profits. Any remaining wilderness areas need to be preserved, which is about 3.5% of America's original forests.
It is one of the worst DEI, incompetent agencies out there. Where I live there are 4x as many rangers as 10 years ago and 90% are young, know-nothing wokies with one agenda... keep all humans out of all government owned natural areas.
The U.S. Forest Service had a several month long forest fire near Beaver, Utah a few years ago and made no effort to extinguish it until citizens nbegan showing up at the local Beaver Valley Clinic myself being one of them at 2 a.m. receiving oxygen until 10 a.m. Sen. Mike Lee was one of those to cover up this wretched incident that was a threat to so many lives. SRM
~ You guys would be all stung in the bung as soon as someone says “defund the police”.. 🤣🤣🤣
Recommended wilderness = land grabbing
“No human activity”zones.
Grow up Mary.
I have spent decades in multiple designated wildernesses hunting, fishing, backpacking and climbing.
Stick to stuff you know, if any.
Senator Lee is incredibly bright and patriotic.
Karen.
I have friends that left the National Forest Service early because they got tired of the woke policies.
Count me as a friend. Left in the late 90's. White privilege stagnated my career in the FS. Went private where merit determines your standing.
@@stupadasol5911 : So, you must of been around during the R.I.F. (Reduction In Force) days. What a joke.
@@tazmod7272 Retired as soon as I was vested. Management was most likely just as happy as I was for leaving. Used their rules against them all the way.
@@stupadasol5911I'm "white" and have a degree in Forestry with an emphasis on Silviculture. I started working for the USFS in 1988. I was always passed over for permanent jobs that were given to minority hires that were less qualified. I worked as a seasonal worker for 14 years and finally left and changed careers.
I wish I could have experienced some of the "white privilege " you mentioned.
@@bruceb9515 My white privilege allowed me to train the applicant hired for promotions I also applied for.
Congress talks but they refuse to use their power to shut down agencies. Why? Because they like the agencies, gives the congress more power. The talking is just grandstanding.
Isn't that special, the director is illiterate, can't even speak properly. Will never answer a question, always has an excuse.
Racist!
DEI Hire
Biden (obama) democr@t commvn!st.
Sorry about the spelling. I've learned that u. T. U. B. E. Won't let these 2 words appear together. They won't post it.
He studied under Harris.
When you grow up as an inner city kid and never set foot in a national forest to fight fires, or work on a logging crew, or study agriculture or biology you get the "most qualified person" to run a major agency. What a disgrace we have created.
America and Utah cannot afford to lose Senator Moke Lee.
Mike Lee 😔
@@cliffordbaxter1992
I would love to lose that little creep.
It's all by design, the green new deal.
Shack. Agenda xyz.
Yup ! A dei hire . All of Biden’s appointments are grifters just looking to game the system.
The more land they grab up the less anyone can buy . This drives up the cost of land . You need to send some people back or release the land for sale to the public .
This wilderness, or no human zones are part of agenda 2030 where 75 percent of all US land mass will be made off limits except to limited government officials.
What they also did in the 70s wilderness act is make sure most of the existing gold mines were put into wilderness areas to prevent anyone from mining the gold.
@@greybone777agenda 2020 and2030 thru the UN both signed on to by daddy Bush and every president since has followed suit. This agenda calls for wilderness corridors that consume 75 percent of all US property to be human free and off limits to everyone except government officials as deemed necessary.
My dad was a Forest Ranger for 36 years. He was on the Manti Lasal for 10 years. At 16 I worked at Utah Pine and milling. At 28, I was a process engineer for Weyerhaeuser Co.
You cannot manage forests from Washington DC. You are dealing with mother nature and private business in a free country. Boots on the ground in a combat zone requires knowledge and experience in the military. Same with managing forests in the USA.
Iguana Dave
How many acres of over harvested land weyerhauser trade to the usfs. Of prime timber to export.
@@rectorkirk1158Raw timber cannot be exported from USFS land. It has to at least be processed into cants before it can be exported. The USFS when I worked for them had a clause in the timber sale contract that mandated the USFS to follow the laws of the State of Washington.
@@daphnekivinen9482 Timber cannot be exported from federal lands. Timber cannot be exported from State of Washington trust lands (managed by the WA Department of 'Natural Resources) as well
I know.
Growing up in a concrete jungle never having set foot in the woods somehow in our screwed up world gets you the top job. I would be discouraged if I was a grunt working in the USFS.
All government seems to somehow think it's exempt from the same laws the rest of us are expected to follow.
That would also apply to most of he citizens. Case in point the genius in the Turks and Caicos just sentenced to 10yrs for having ammunition in his luggage. Sorry but ii doesn't take a PHD to thoroughly search your luggage before packing. When you miss a handful of metallic cartridges in the process you deserve the punishment the law calls for. But everyone seems to think the fella deserves a break?
DEI!!!! WTF does HE KNOW about FORREST MANAGEMENT????
Nope. He is there to do what he is told, like all the slaves on the Marxist Democrat plantation.
He knows dat he be a minority and a victim?
Nothing. He can't even tell you what a tree is!
Why wouldn't they? All we have to do is look at history in how the criminals in the federal government have dealt with the indigenous Americans
“We’ll let you know how that go.”
unbelievable
More DEI hires!
I thought you guys weren't racist
Senator Lee keep fighting for Utah!
This guy knows nothing about forestry.
Yeah, he got that position for being black.
He can't tell you what the definition of a tree is. Next thing we'll know is this guy is on the Supreme Court!
Moore - DEI, double speak - THESE “official clowns” NEVER ANSWER QUESTION - just obfuscation!
Congress enacted the Wilderness Study Act in Montana in 1977. A 5 year study that is ongoing to this day.
That's your gov
The most common uses of property taken by the federal government in eminent domain have been for roads, government buildings and public utilities. Many railroads were given the right of eminent domain to obtain land or easements in order to build and connect rail networks. In the mid-20th century, a new application of eminent domain was pioneered, in which the government could take the property and transfer it to a private third party for redevelopment. This was initially done only to a property that has been deemed "blighted" or a "development impediment", on the principle that such properties had a negative impact upon surrounding property owners, but was later expanded to allow the taking of any private property when the new third-party owner could develop the property in such a way as to bring in increased tax revenues to the government. Let that last sentence sink in. Greed. Gov, for the Gov, by the Gov. This should be outlawed.
Didn’t
Earn
It
"Tribes are a sovereign nation"
Tribes consist of American citizens. They are Americans inside America.
They should listen to the "Star Bangled Banner", sung in Navajo. It's beyond beautiful!
Too much regulation of our every, including our lives and health!
Government sprawl needs to reduced not expanded.
To discuss the very issue that you bringing up. We be happy to let you know how that go.
Time after time these senior bureaucrats appear before congress, they are evasive, uninformed or simply stonewall the questioner. I don’t understand why congress continues funding these agencies. Faced with a near zero budget, maybe these folks could answer some simple questions.
It is the same everywhere in the US, the DC government wants to shut out United States citizens from US government controlled land. Cut out access, cut out campgrounds, cut out trails. Most of the trails in the Teton National Park were built by private companies a hundred years ago; the PS has not built a new trail anywhere in the park, but they have shut down many trails or allowed them to deteriorate to the point they are unusable. At the same time employee housing and offices have been built everywhere in the park. A paved bicycle trail was built next to a highway for a few miles, but again that corals people together in a small area.
Did the same in usfs land in Wa and nps
This guy couldn’t find his way out of petting zoo much less a national forest. The forest service thinks that by bulldozing fire roads then there won’t be a fire.
Because they don't live like we the people they are being paid for by other people/ countries
Isreal
Exactly.
@mr.v268 what a maroon.9
National Forest Service as been going downhill for decades, zero timber management in Colorado.
What is it designed for?
Not for humans
Do you remember the Yellowstone fire (circa 1988)? That was devastating simply because of the US Parks Service "hands off" policy. This USFS CLOWN wants to do the same to our National Forests...
@@adamr4115 🛸👽👻🦖🧙♂️☠️
Public land should be public access. If they want to block our access to the land then they should be forced to sell it.
The forest service has mismanaged land for years. Thats the likely reason for so many fires.
Not answering questions is the biggest part of the resume.
I live in SC and love the Forrest service where I live. I reside In the National Forrest. These guys and gals are awesome. They are always doing control burns!
Glad you are asking the right questions.
I hate that all the public land is restricted so much. I would like to be able to camp in the woods not in a campground around a bunch of campers and tents and paved roads.
When I first went to college I studied forestry. I was a child of the country, fields and forests. Later it was announced to us ; that "if you weren't one of the inner cities children that got summer programs for nature provided by the government and USFS then you were not going to be a forest ranger. You can get a job helping corporations get around government regulations." So how did that work out?
what good is a forest to locals if they can not use it
Apparently the Poconos is a rain Forrest now
This land was my land this land was your land from California to the New York islands,from the Redwood forests to the Gulf stream waters...
This land was made for you and me!
Thank you senator Lee for standing for real local input on this issue.
What an absolute disgrace 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙈🙈🙈
The proof is that all federal agencies are corrupt and bribed to do nothing except inhibit commerce.
You're the man Mike! Keep pushing for Utah!
I wonder if that bureaucrat just had an Ut-O moment? 😂😂😂
"C" big cash to be made
"c" small cash to be made
Is there ANY agency Chief who can answer a direct question without Editorializing or DOUBLE talking ✝️🇺🇸😡😡😡😡😡
No
well don Sen. Lee. There will never be a final agreement with the "environmentalist" on Wilderness. They will continue to attempt to gain more acres of National Forest and Public Lands into the Wilderness System.
Return all land to each state!!!
Equity hire???
Great question! I wrote The Senator years ago asking why Forrestry road gates were being closed so soon before winter. Was as if the decision was being made at a desk 2000 miles away.
Great to see this being discussed !
USFS takes control of land areas.... 9th circuit court rules against all logging operations in that area....forest dies from lack of logging.....fires ravage that land areas. Cycle starts over in another area, cycle repeats, same result.
No logging (which is proper forest management) = no forest's.
There CAN NOT be healthy, productive forest's with the federal government in control. ALL forest management MUST be the sole jurisdiction of the states and counties that those lands are within. There is no Constitutional authority for justifying the existence of the USFS, BLM or USDA or their having jurisdiction and authority over the States....period.
This black guy hasn't been in the woods a day of his life... Lmfao. Maybe he walked thru a park in the city a couple times... Joe Biden sure knows how to pick em. Best and brightest.....
There are kids committing suicide in Utah, parents killing their children and Mike Lee is very concerned about big C or little c???
This is not the fault of the bureaucrat. The fault lies with the Congress. The low-electoral count flyover states are at the mercy of the high-electoral count states. We are governed by a system unfettered by the Constitution. The people with an unreasonable passion for bugs and bunnies from the coasts can control the lands in the heartland where the consequence is borne by the people in the heartland. The Federal Government should not own any land outside of post offices, post roads, the District of Columbia, and lands purchased by the consent of the state legislatures for the erection of forts, magazines, arsenals, dockyards, and other needful buildings. You cannot find parklands, wilderness areas, forests, wildlife refuges, and nature preserves in the Constitution. That which is not enumerated is proscribed. Rudyard warned us, "That if once you have paid him the Dane-geld, you never get rid of the Dane."
He said dosn't know about the fire reduction aspect.. uh
Moore began his career 1978 with the Natural Resources Conservation Service in North Dakota.[2] He eventually joined the United States Forest Service in 1981. He has held various positions in the agency, including regional forester for the Eastern Region in Wisconsin and forest supervisor for Mark Twain National Forest in Missouri. Most recently, Moore served as the Pacific Southwestern regional forester, managing 18 national forests in California spanning 20 million acres, as well as state and private forestry programs in Hawaii and the Pacific Islands.[3]
Moore has been an advocate for utilizing vegetation treatment methods to reduce the risk of wildfire, rather than relying solely on logging. He believes that this approach can effectively decrease wildfire risk while preserving the natural beauty and ecological integrity of the forest. In addition to his advocacy of vegetation treatment, Moore has also focused on improving the pay and working conditions for firefighters, as well as increasing capacity and resources through partnerships with other agencies and organizations.[4
Some schmuck in DC knows better than the locals.
Affirmative Action……. OH Yeah, he’s got this…..NOT 🤪 !! Just enough grey matter to remain conscious and yet do exactly as he is told ! Perfect !!
This man doesnt look like he can walk through a park let alone a forrest.
Dei hire of course
I bet he still feels the lumber his houses are built from wasnt made from trees.
WOW! That fella is full of SHIFF!
Like Adam Schiff, full of it or like potatoes depends, full of it.🤮
DEI in action from a guy who has never even seen a stick.
Good work ❤
Dismantle the Federal bureaucracy
My dad worked for the forest service for many decades, and he was one of the very few people who actually gave a damn about doing things the way they were supposed to be done. In return the higher ups tried to get him to quit or get him fired. It was a complete bureaucratic shit show back then, and post Covid it’s gotten much worse. The whole damn government is like that, and it’s never going to change unless it’s punished by the people. I won’t hold my breath for that to happen.
Shite show all the way under potato.
I've spent decades in the outdoors particularly the forests of the Pacific NW. Never once have I seen an African functioning as an employee with the USFS, the state, or the county. Not once. But here we have an African calling the shots from the top. Something doesn't add up. Was this guy the absolutely most talented and qualified person to run this agency? I highly doubt it but have a strong belief he was selected under Affirmative Action because of his ethnic background regardless of qualifications. I would like to see his work history which shows that he, as a youth, fought fires, or patrolled wilderness areas, or worked with logging companies. I hope someday we get back to a merit based system so the best are rewarded.
Keep fighting for us Mr. Lee.
Defund the forest service
Because they're "The Federal Government" and they have more power. At least, that's THEIR opinion.
Some people will never be satisfied until every last square yard of old growth forest is turned into pulp wood and 2x4’s, or paved over for Costcos and McDonalds. There is already more than enough forestry land for our needs. Mother Nature doesn’t need human help to maintain wilderness.
😂each time you hear um. It means they not added all the facts and scratching for bullshit to feed you. Real people don't hesitate to tell you like it is. They have no need to fill people heads with worthless shit.
WTF! Saying it out loud.
Mr. Lee is the best senator for Utah ever!
This guy has probably never even been camping and yet he runs the forest service.
No answers, just bullcrap double talk trash.
No, he's not incompetent as some are commenting here. He is just following the orders of the wrong people. Namely those that are determined to "fundamentally transform the United States" and not in a Constitutional way! We all need to stop thinking and mouthing that these people are incompetent and start realizing and spreading the truth of the mater.
He took the bribes. And fet about 400 k a year. A free air plane to use, free vehichles, plus all the lobbying time in dc he wants to use. Lol govenment lobbying elected officials
That still does not mean he is not incompetent. It seems you may be incompetent in the ability to recognize and identify incompetence.
Better table everything else so we can get some Federal legislation passed to keep non-citizens from voting in November!
Just watch. Some day soon he will say "axed" instead of "asked," and a million trees will be sent to the trash heap.
Plants and animals were created to be cared for, not left to rot.
Nice to know that the agency tasked with mitigating forest fires isn’t doing its job, par for the course. 3 letter agencies, absolutely useless.
We will allow comments as long as the state and counties know we will in the end not follow them only what we want to do.
PATHETIC! We need to take our country back!
save the forest!!! don't let people destroy the ecosystem! and no more Clear Cutting!
He's worried about access to loggers and miners. Not about maintaining the land for future generation.
The Forest Service provides what it's willing to do in multiple-choice proposals for the public, or non-forest service groups, for comments only after the choices are selected by the Forest Service without outside input.
And this is the best they’ve got!
Government agencies run by political appointees will NEVER answer a direct question nor commit themselves to a position.
I normally do not agree with any of the alphabet agency's except now.Actually some things are good for a forest. Like leaving fallen trees and leaves etc. There is a ton of living organisms that depend on the decaying natural debris. Cleaning up the forest floor kills the forest floor.
Many years ago in my "feeding at the trough experience."
Forest Service tells the county government what they are going to do.
Marxist fed
WTH are you talking about ?
I'd be happy if the FS would enforce basic laws, such as: cracking down on people who are semi-squatting on public forest service lands by parking and LEAVING their RVs on primitive campsites...