Caltrain Unveils New Electric Trains
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- Опубліковано 23 вер 2022
- The future ride to work for thousands of Bay Area commuters was unveiled in San Francisco Saturday - and though the new Caltrain trains bear the agency’s familiar red logo, these new electric trains are definitely green. Christie Smith reports.
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So glad to see Caltrain has a bright future! We need more electrified passenger rail service in the US!
So glad to see Jackie Speier has a drunk future! We need more alcohol fueled politicians in the US!
Impossible lol
@@danielchou5895 Already happening, bud. You've already lost with your anti-rail propaganda 😁😁😁😁
This is part of the California high speed rail project.
Never gonna happen, rail electrification is a waste of money. The only reason this happened was because the catenary was needed for CAHSR anyway
I'm glad that caltrains did the smart move and actually made the trains powered by overhead wires instead of those stupid battery powered locomotives that freight companies keep trying to push
yas like wdtm by BATTERY!! NO THSTS JO AN7F POWER
Cal-anything couldn't make a smart move if they tried. Freight companies are prolly right bc they at least make revenue.
@@StaYUTI420 yee
@@StaYUTI420 You are well trained, I'll give you that.
Overhead lines lead to lighter trains and better acceleration meaning more trains can run closer together, creating higher service frequency, I’m glad that Caltrain is improving its responsiveness to public needs here, unlike a lot of investor-owned railroads
As a european, electric trains are much Quiter, but vibrations often come from track quality (or lack thereof). some of this can be compilated for with beter suspension witch these cars probably have. the real benefits that people are going to see is the much faster trips due high average speeds due to the much higher acceleration that these electric trains can achieve. a traditional diesel train has one engine, one big motor pulling a lot of cars, the new trains, called emu's have a lot of smaller motors in every car, its like going from 2 weel drive to all weel drive but on steroids.
Who the F uck cares about Europe? Electric trains are good and they have brought it to Cali despite the greasy GOP oil boot lickers. That is what is important.
Plus you dont have a split upper level(I FUCKING HOPE)
Consider that most of the existing cars are from 1989, and you can imagine why the ride quality is lacking. These will be a massive improvement for sure.
@@N00N01 didn't even consider that because gallery cars have never been used here, because they are a stupid design.
@@kneonspace it’s not stupid my g stop being a little hater
The most important benefit that electrification brings, and that many people gloss over, is the enabling of far more frequent service due to the far superior acceleration and braking capabilities of electric trains. This is why BART, and generally mass transit railways with more than a century of history, are electric.
Yep and they have fantastic energy efficiency because of regenerative braking were the kinetic energy of the train is converted in electrical energy ande deposited on the catenary for other trains to use and this tech actually dates way back the Milwaukee Road electrification in 1915
European train styles are definitely the way to go nowadays.
At least for passenger travel in electrified areas. I wonder how long it will be until we electrify our freight lines in the western US
@@user-do5zk6jh1k be a long time unless they put in local solar generation because the cost of building out those lines.
@@user-do5zk6jh1k fairly soon hopefully, LA did feasibility studies to electrify their entire freight rail network in the county
I grew up with the diesels, but in 2024 I will miss them. I want to see those Electric Trains someday soon
The gas trains are so much smoother, the electric ones I’ve been on in Germany are horrible
@@harry8201 I haven't rode on them just yet but I see your pt.
I also grew up with the diesels I will miss them😢
@@caltrain915 me too
@@harry8201 thats not how this works
This is such a big deal! Good job on Caltrain bringing high quality electric rail to the bay area!
I want these trains to run on other commuter rails in the US that should be electrified
So basically no other commuter railroad? Because for most of them electrification is not economically viable or even possible.
@@mbrproductions160 Metrolink, coaster, sounder, Metra, VRE
@@mbrproductions160 isn’t electrification a cheaper option in the long term than diesel. Especially for it improvements to passenger comfort, reduced fuel costs, better frequency, etc.
@@mbrproductions160Septa RTD and NJ transit use electric trains and GO transit in Toronto is currently electrified and metra and a few railroads in new York use low voltage DC systems on a few lines but most modern systems use high voltage AC so 25kv AC instead of the older 0.66kv or 1.5kv DC
I love this modernisation of American Rail that's going on right now! As a conservative, it's sad that many on the right still think rail is not worth investing in...
Just remind them that trains are only partially subsidized while highways are 100% subsidized. They usually love that point.
@@TohaBgood2 yup and you have to pay a gas tax every time you gas up, even if you do not use the highways at all.
@@erikanders3343 To be fair, I'd argue most people use some part of the freeway system at least once a year. That said, it's not like anybody uses all 46,000+ miles of the highway in a year unless maybe you're a trucker who never sleeps. A notable amount of people pay more in gas tax than is proportional to their usage of the freeway system. Personally, I don't get why people who take issue with taxes being used to fund rail infrastructure don't question that aspect of the gas tax's existence.
It's sad as a leftist to see that many Americans don't understand the utility of a full-scale American transportation revival. Not only just building and modernizing rail but also increasing road capacity at the same time to counteract the induced demand that building only one of each at a time succumbs to. Obviously more rail than road, though. There is way more that people agree on under the surface, and I hate how the media pushes the dumbest and most extreme to be the loudest.
stop being conservative
Looking sleek. Reminds me of the electric trains of Switzerland.
They are built by the same company: Stadler rail from Switzerland!
it's because these are European trains, more specifically the KISS from Stadler
Heh...because that's exactly what they are, albeit assembled in the US.
That’s because the trains are Swiss. Just built in America, cause you know nationalism. They are designed by Staddler and are American version of the KISS
@@MrJimheeren honestly considdering the wages in switzerland it's cheaper to build them in the US.
Seeing this happen for Caltrain gives me hope GO Transit will eventually get there too. We are lagging behind here in Toronto and desperately need faster, more frequent train service that only catenary electric trains can provide. But at this rate we'll be running diesels exclusively up to 2030.
GO has made surprisingly quick progress in it’s GO expansion project. It already got contracts signed, plans proposed and some small work started. This is still Ontario we’re talking about so who know if this will continue but we might see more progress happening sooner than most think.
So many people are quick to dog on GO Transit... yet forget that we've already started work on Electrification and forget that we're MUCH bigger than Caltrain, Caltrain is ONE line... ONE, GO Transit is SEVEN lines spanning over 500km of Track, that's a lot of work to do, and guess what, we're doing it! The Greater Toronto Area also has more Transit projects planned and under construction than any other city in North America! Please, we're doing the literal best we can, don't be so quick to judge the past and present when our future is looking very bright
This vid doesn't mention that this is also a huge step forward for high speed rail in california considering it will be using that corridor
Hopefully LA goes electric like they were before 1961. Crazy how the greed a few men can change the landscape of the land for all
Their rolling stock is gonna be using biodiesel so there is no need.
Won’t happen. Bay Area did it first.
Also let's not forget people like cars
They are made by…?
Not one mention of the producer of this marvel of technology!
STADLER RAIL from Switzerland 🇨🇭
It’s a KISS , already in service all over Europe, they are one of the best train sets you can buy at the moment.
Built at the Stadler facility in Salt Lake City, Utah. This train is special design that accommodates two platform loading levels on the Caltrain system.
KISS = Comfortable Innovative Sporty S-bahn train
For pic’s go to Wikipe - german language
@@Mark-kt5mh Not a special design at all. Is just a standard KISS Mk3 (as used throughout Europe) with adaptation to cater for dual platform heights.
@@Mark-kt5mh just because burgers are assembled all over the world, McDonald's is still an US-company.
Those trains are not special at all. Stadler changes them up depending on what the customer wants or needs. It happens all over Europe
"Made by" isn't the same as "Designed by"
iPhones are designed by a US company, but made in China.
As for this train, they emphasize the place it was assembled, because politicians care about "adding jobs". In this case, Salt Lake city facility.
Very cool train sets! Looking forward to the future of Caltrain!
Love how "The future" has been the standard in the rest of the world for decades.
Had to scroll too far to find this.
In another 3 decades we’ll have high speed electric trains here. Catching up soon lol
@@nikobelic4251 Actually these Stadler KISS models are the latest they make. So no, these haven't been "standard for decades" anywhere. What was standard was about the same as Caltrain but with much crappier Euro seats.
And CAHSR is finishing construction on the first segment already next year. You're not updated on your latest anti-rail concern trolling.
@@TohaBgood2
Two questions
1. How is the dude’s comment “anti rail?”
2. What’s so revolutionary about these new trains that makes them so much better than trains in Europe?
@@nikobelic4251 What you two are doing is called concern trolling. It’s obvious and annoying. If you have nothing good to say then just move on.
@@TohaBgood2
I have no idea what “concern trolling” is
I just saw a video pop up saying “new electric train” and the thing looks like the trains used by the SNCF from decades ago, saw some dude who agreed with me and said I found his comment pretty low in the comments section
Then you got mad and called me “anti train” when I didn’t say anything that is anti train.
Then I asked what makes these trains so special compared to other trains and you called me a troll.
Granted, I am not a train expert. I am a pilot expert. Maybe you are, a train expert and if you do know what makes these trains “the future” as opposed to trains used in Europe.
If someone came up to me and asked me “what makes the 787 so revolutionary compared to the 767”
I could spout off a list of things that makes the 787 special as opposed to older aircraft instead of calling someone a troll because they think these trains don’t look so far ahead of trains used by say, the SNCF.
By the way, I am also French, I know what a strong passenger rail network looks like so I am not just randomly claiming “oh US rail sucks because America” I have a benchmark and it happens to be a rail network that is looked pretty favorably on by most.
"Oh look honey, these new trains look so European" - That's because they f***ing are!!!
Stadler KISS Units designed in Switzerland and built since Years in Europe have now arrived in the States, nice
This a fantastic project
I'm ready for CHSR and Metrolink Electrification
Aye let's go. Caltrain headed in the right direction with faster trains.
So glad that the US finally decided to manufacture the Swiss designed trains in the country.
She says “decades of hard work” like it’s something to be proud of. This should have been done in years, not decades!
In the US it is something to be proud of as you're willing to spend billions on publicly funded highways but not on rail. The electrification itself started in 2017 but it took decades to get this approved and actually starting construction, due to all the problems that the US has with such big projects. The people that kept working on this project despite all the setbacks and problems should be proud as they paved the way for future projects that, hopefully, will follow and be easier to execute.
With a government like the US it is a milestone in my eyes...
Ironically, the idea of electrifying the Penisula Corridor had been planned for over a hundred years, now it's happening.
@@randomscb-40charger78 Going slow and steady, right? 😁😁😁😁 Seriously though, this _is_ a monumental achievement! We need to advocate for the entire corridor to Gilroy to be promptly electrified as well as the Capitol Corridor. We need to move into the future!
Well, Germany takes 70+ Years to add two Tracks to 160 km of already existing Rail Line, to upgrade it from two to four Tracks. Planned since the 1980ies and won't be completed before 2050.
Lol, this is just cruel showing us this now and forcing us to have to wait until 2024 to actually ride these shiny new trains... 😭
Amtrak did the same for their new trains, trains came in around Q4 of 2020 but service would only begin next year
Go transit needs these for the GO expansion project.
As someone who’s read into it, while this is great I want to say one thing for people who live where there isn’t electric wires.
Statically, per person per mile, you release 652% less CO2 taking a diesel train than a car. Even if it’s not electric, it’s better then driving.
YEAAAHHHHH!!!!! Even though I am in Texas, I am so happy for Cali to have these double decker EMU units from Stadler. VERY COOL!
Hey, Texans hate losing to California! If we get it now then you might get it out of spite in a few years! You just watch!
Stark contrast from the old SP Steam commuter trains from the 50's😳
look it up on wikipedia SP wanted to run electric trains on the same tracks a hundred years ago 🤯
Indeed, one of the saddest “what could have been”s in railroading history
I wish my city would do this
rolling into the future…. that’s an overstatement. it’s more like catching up with the rest of the world in terms of electrification technology.
these politicians look like satirical characters
Great to know 🚄❤️🇺🇸👍
Thanks for sharing
Awesome 🚈🚃🚋
1:21 pretty sure it was designed in Europe
Alright! Good luck Caltrain! Greetings from Sweden!
American made, you produced there based off of a European design/style, nice to see US finally get into the more modern age of trains
More like ILL-FITTING EUROPEAN commuter-rail conversion.
This is not american made. The body was assembled in america but it's a slightly modified version of the Stadler KISS
@@benedekhalda-kiss9737 That still counts as American-made if you're not just importing the entire car from another country
Buy America rules mean that the car was assembled using American parts (mostly), even if the design and car body were shipped from the EU.
@@kilodeltaeight It is still made by an European company.
We need these in SoCal!!
You just got extremely similar Stadler FLIRT ones for the Arrow service in SoCal. They're actually pretty great! Check them out if you're interested in trains. Very cool and quirky Swiss vehicles.
Bruh America be slacking in electrification
We're literally doing it, at least in California.
California is leading the way for the US..don’t trip.
@@californiamade5608 lmao West Virginia had more electrified rail at one point than all of California, all the way back in 1920, California isn’t leading anything they’ve got 100 years of catching up to do
@@californiamade5608 Maybe for the West Coast... you know us on the East Coast been running EMUs for nearly a century, right?
"They were made in America"
Yeah by a swiss manufacturer...
Who cares! They're good trains!
That's not enough.
It's time to extend Caltrain to Southern California (Los Angeles and San Diego) from city of San Francisco. It's really inconvenient to catch Coast Starlight either cross the bay at Emeryville or travel down to San Jose. In other words, one travels to east of the bay Oakland/Emeryville (Coast Starlight) and one travels west of the bay to San Francisco (Caltrain).
Ummm, don't know how to tell you this, but Amtrak is one step ahead of you. They've already announced that they will be creating a new SF-LA service. I think they want to bring back the "Coast Daylight" name plate for that train. This will be the second direct Bay Area-LA train, third if you count the San Joaquins.
The San Joaquins is an excellent train, and they're about to get brand new and also gorgeous Siemens trains. But the freight railroads blocked its passage to LA so you transfer to a bus for the last 20% of the trip. But it's faster than the picturesque coastal route even with the transfer!
Glad we europeans could provide you with our expert knowledge, i hope we might see more high quality rail networks of this standard across the USA.
The ONLY reason you could is because iconic US railroad rolling stock designers/manufacturers went out of business and foreign companies filled the vacuum. Remember/ever heard of: American Car and Foundry Co., St. Louis Car Co., Pullman-Standard Car Manufacturing Co., The Budd Company, Pressed Steel Car Co.? And there are probably others.
Lol, with the Eurotrash trolling. Did you notice how California just surpassed Germany for 4th largest economy in the world after passing the UK for 5th only a few years ago. Sit down, bud.
We didn't have good trains because they were considered old fashioned and no one wanted them during the car era. As California is slowly emerging from the rather nutty car-domination phase, we're rebuilding passenger rail back up. But that is purely because passenger rail demand has been exploding in the last couple of decades. And once we get up to speed, we'll surpass you there as well. We just work harder.
Good news
Looks like they haven't yet installed the overhead wire in the downtown station -- best guess is that they plugged the trains into shore power for the interior lighting in this footage.
Anyone know when the electrification is supposed to be ready to use? It would be good if they could start testing it before all the new trains arrive.
The Trump admin sat on releasing the funds promised for the electrification project at the last minute, basically out of spite, which delayed things a good bit. Full electrification work should finish late next year, allowing for testing and service start in 2024. In the meantime CalTrain is doing what testing it can by pulling the EMUs with diesel locomotives, and by using old AEM-7s acquired from Amtrak to validate the OCS system. Better to damage a locomotive from the 70s than a brand new one.
@@kilodeltaeight If what I read on Wikipedia is indeed correct, the reason the Trump admin delayed releasing the funds is that they weren't against CalMod, but funding going to CAHSR.
"Rolling into the future"
Electric traction literally almost 100-year-old technology, and you just can't be bothered to pay for it
A lot of things were invented 100 years ago but were continuously improved since. The internal combustion engine was also invented in the 19th century. That doesn't make it 100-year-old tech.
This wasn't done before because rail travel was practically abandoned in the US since the 60s. Nobody wanted trains so they went away or were maintained on life support. For the last 20-30 years Americans in general, but Californians in particular, have been liking rail more an more. California has invested like crazy in passenger rail for the last 30 years. We went from complete car-dystopia to the best rail system outside of the Northeast in 20 years.
This is just the latest step in that evolution, but it isn't the last. We are building a ton of new lines and improvements all the time.
I think they are at least 20 years late but better late than never!
I would say 60 years late. Commuter electric train is a standard from the 60's in europe.
Swiss trains 😀😀 best of the best!
BART sitting there like... uhhhh, hello! 👋
BART is rapid transit and was designed in the beginning to be electric. Caltrain is commuter rail transport.
@@RaymondHng my point was that they're selling it as this is 1890
@@RaymondHng That's not exactly true. BART was designed as a commuter subway. It's a hybrid of a subway and a commuter train. That's why it kind of fails as a pure subway. They don't even have proper barriers and have to rely on proof of payment instead.
It is true that BART is now upgrading to be more of a subway. The frequencies are set to practically double and there will be proper urban development at stations. But originally BART was just a souped up commuter system, even if it had incredible, luxurious amenities for a commuter train. It was, all things considered, an extremely successful concept that has spawned many copy-cats all around the world.
It's just that the Bay Area has outgrown the original system and we now need a full subway in its place. The ridership is triple what BART was built for and the current upgrades to full subway operations are now sorely needed!
@@TohaBgood2 The definition of rapid transit and commuter rail needs to be clarified. Commuter rail differs from rapid transit by:
● having (in most cases) a lower frequency of service
● having scheduled services (i.e. trains run at specific times rather than at specific intervals)
● sharing track or right-of-way with intercity and/or freight trains
● not fully grade separated (containing at-grade crossings with crossing gates)
● being able to skip certain stations as an express service due to normally being driver controlled
Compared to rapid transit (or metro rail), commuter/suburban rail often has lower frequency, following a schedule rather than fixed intervals, and fewer stations spaced further apart. They primarily serve lower density suburban areas (non inner-city), generally only having one or two stops in a city's central business district, and often share right-of-way with intercity or freight trains. Some services operate only during peak hours and others uses fewer departures during off peak hours and weekends.
Caltrain fits almost every aspect of a commuter rail system while BART does not. Caltrain uses San Francisco as its terminus as it brings in commuters from San Mateo and Santa Clara county to San Francisco during peak commuter hours. During off-peak hours, evenings, and weekends, service diminishes greatly. BART as a rapid transit system, on the other hand, connects the five counties of San Francisco, Alameda, Contra Costa, San Mateo, and Santa Clara counties. San Francisco is not a terminus. A person can travel from Fremont to Concord without ever having to go through San Francisco. Caltrain as a commuter rail system has at-grade crossings with crossing gates. BART never has at-grade crossings with crossing gates. It is fully grade separated. Catrain has express service with trains that skip certain stations. BART has no station-skipping express service.
BART was designed from the ground up to be a rapid transit system. It's even part of its name, Bay Area Rapid Transit. Caltrain is commuter rail.
@@RaymondHng BART is actually a hybrid between metros and suburban rail, akin to an S-Bahn. A suburban metro is a metro with wider stop spacings compared to urban-centered metro systems. You can see this with other systems such as WMATA or MARTA as part of the "Great Society" era, spurred by the idea of getting suburbanites to cities by metro instead of cities being focused on.
NOICE
Freight trains should also go 100% electric too.
The fact that lady thinks Caltrain going electric is then going into the future shows how far back the US is when it comes to rail electrification.
The Norfolk and Western and Virginian Railways went electric in the 1910s lol so did the Pennsylvania and the New York Central
I love watching americans reacting to everyday vehicle like it is a spaceship or something, idk it's just so amusing.
We’ve had electric railroads in the US since the 1890s Europe isn’t special 😂
@@loganbaileysfunwithtrains606 Yeah the tech is really old but the fact we gave up on it so early is kinda sad
@@OBSMProductions it hasn’t been given up on, its just not practical for most places within the US, the infrastructure upkeep is very expensive and it’s rigid in its operation capacity
@@loganbaileysfunwithtrains606 Except for the fact that electrified mainline railroads are rather scarce beyond the NEC and the fact that we had a much larger electrified network in the past.
Swiss trains in the USA. At last also Americans will enjoy the way Europeans are enjoying train trips. Welcomf in the new train world
love love love the new chic look
Can I keep Caltrain 922's horn by any chance?
You will hear it less and less as most of the tracks are going above or below grade
Those seats look identical to the patco high speed line seats
Great. We need to modernize out system badly and quickly, especially in metro areas, and inter city like Europe and Japan.
i knew we needed this but i was disappointed cause no news in it they kept it a secret way to go. hope the whole nation mimicks this. way to go caltrain. front looks like a bus though nice work here.
Well, its an American version of a European electric multiple unit design...
At least they er smarter then most rail companies in the uk to not say MoRe CoMfOrTaBlE rIdE
Swiss company🤫😄
Wish this was happening in LA.
“Rolling into the future.” Ha ha.
Going to miss the old locomotives
Waiting on SoCal's electric Metrolink trains
What were they running on before? Coal?
yes
Diesel
They smell awful. Every time they pass, I have to put my car windows up cause the fumes are so bad. I know that probably sounds elitist, but those fumes are horrible for your health. Very carcinogenic.
@@heyaisdabomb are you driving literally 5 inches away from the engine??
@@heyaisdabomb it doesn't sound elitist. But it does sound like you need to stand up against car culture where you live as well because that does the same thing
we're so behind lol
Nice electric (not fake battery cars) lightweight train to increase service both in quality and quantity
The trains are also faster! Once the project is complete, they'll be able to travel at 110mph.
Well, we still need to remove a bunch of grade crossings and put up proper four-way barriers at the crossings that we can't remove. I am in full support, but we need to remember that the fight to fully build this is still upcoming. The NIMBYs won't let this happen easily. We can expect a ton of stupid arguments about car traffic, particularly valuable trees, and god knows what other idiotic things they dream up!
But yes, in a few years if we all pull our public service weight, Caltrain will be able to go 110mph on electric power from Salesforce all the way down to Gilroy!
"They were made in America, and when you make it in America, you make sure everyone makes it in America." What is Jackie Speier on about?
She’s probably drunk, like the rest of these women politicians from California
She never touched a train in her life. Probably first & last time she socialize with public transport
She dosen‘t want anyone to find out that it is only half true that they are made in America.
Amazing they unveiled electric locomotives during a massive power deficit where they can’t even charge their electric cars or run their central ACs in their homes
They have been reviled for a while now
It's good to see they're almost ready to go, but why did it take almost 60 years?
It didn't. This line was supposed to be electrified a long time ago. The original owner wanted to but ended up selling before they did. Then, I think, UP wanted to during the 70s fuel crisis, but again it didn't happen. This was a long saga for the Peninsula Corridor. But this is the first time that there was an actual attempt made and it is going pretty well. They're almost done!
cmon stadler 😍
what do you mean they are electrified? I didn't see any train catenary or a pantograph on top of the trains??
The OCS system was delayed because the Trump admin held the funds hostage, basically out of spite. In the King Street station area, the pole foundations and some poles are installed, but the wire hasn’t been strung yet. Other sections of the line are further along, with the area around San Jose and the CalTrain OMF already complete.
@@kilodeltaeight Trump wouldn't have gotten the chance to sabotage the electric train revolution if we as a country would have just done this 20 years ago. the EU has been riding on electric train's for years now. why has America taken so long? oboma could have easily electrified Amtrak.
the wires are all over the line now
Let's see, despite being "California", you have joined METRA-Electric in the eastern Chicago area, RTD-Electric Commuter Rail in Denver, Colorado, SEPTA in Philadelphia, New Jersey Transit Electric Service, Long Island Railroad and Metro North Railroad serving metropolitan New York City and recently Shore Line East. Wow a hundred years after New York Central Railroad, Long Island Railroad, Pennsylvania Railroad, New Haven Railroad (a.k.a. New York, New Haven, and Hartford Railroad), Delaware and Lackawanna Railroad and Illinois Central Railroad. And don't get me started on Europe or Asia. Well last but not least is still great. I am glad to hear the great news. 🙂
We need To connect California
Made in America actually drives up costs significantly.
Still cheaper than manufacturing it in Switzerland, where this train company originates from.
Stadler Rail has factories all over europe. It would have been for sure be cheaper to use the existing infrastructure than build completely new factories. Only because it is from switzerland, it dosen‘t have to be expensive. Keep that in mind when you buy a Swatch watch
Electric trains are 150 years old
I was like, is that Woody Allen?
Great work, California! This will change many peoples lives.
Fuck those who think this is a waste of money and 'socialism', this is a step in the right direction.
I don’t think it’s socialism. I don’t think it’s a waste of money. But replacing the fleet with MULTIPLE UNITS instead of, like, electric LOCOMOTIVES? It’s WAY too early to make America’s rail network a carbon copy of Europe’s. Caltrain is the ONLY RAILWAY IN NORTH AMERICA that’s switching to Euro mode. It’s just so ill-fitting. And I’m 100% sure people like me will cringe seeing one of these things next to a Caltrans Charger on heavy rail platform. It’s such a sharp contrast, and that’s exactly why switching to Euro style should have waited until the ENTIRE AMERICAN RAIL NETWORK potentially goes euro mode.
Euro mode has to start somewhere, why not in California? Plenty of existing systems and potential routes that could be easily jump started with this new technology. Stadler, Siemens, and Alstom have the capability of building EMUs or new locomotives with batteries, clean diesel engines, and overhead Electric for both passenger and freight trains for the rest of the world and for Amtrak. Electrification of our busy freight railroad mainlines are technically feasible as well as for intercity and commuter rail lines.
But the other railways all over the U.S. aren’t gonna go Euro until the 2030s at the earliest!
@@henrythef1guy768 You can't improve frequency as much with electric locomotives. Only EMUs can produce the amount of acceleration and stopping power needed to drastically raise service frequency.
Well in that case how about the ENTIRE AMERICAN RAIL NETWORK goes Euro mode?
I like the old ones though. They gonna retire them all? Or keep some in service
they're all going
Built in Salt Lake City, Utah
Warriors ^.^
what about the bullet trains??😂
It’s coming and it’s actually partially to thank for this project as the CHSRA actually contributed roughly $714 million into the Caltrain Electrification
And it’s payback period of what? Just another way of corrupt movement of taxpayers money
@@madengineer270 do you not know how public infrastructure works? People like you never seem to complain about the cost of freeway expansions and repairs.
@@cam_i_corn2994 It doesn't take so long or cost as much in Europe. California government is so corrupt and incompetent.
These tracks and this upgrade is to support the bullet.
Where are the Catanaries?
Tucked in. The trains were rolled in by diesel locomotives for showcase but the infrastructure to install the overhead wires is gonna take till 2024 to be ready for operation
"Rolling into the future"...
As a european I can't stop laughing
Ooo Wi-Fi like it’s 2003 nice , baby changing whatttt
Let's say if we had built the largest Thermoelectric power plant to electrify an ENTIRE railroad network?..
The future? Overhead wire trains are a 19th century technology. But so glad to see Caltrain taking a step in the right direction
Overhead wire from the 19th century can't even power a fast tram these days. The main reason why the Acela is limited to 125mph anywhere on the NEC is that old catenary tech. Those two 160mph sections (150mph with the non-Avelia old Acelas) were upgraded to modern speeds primarily by swapping the catenary for a modern system. The catenary was one of the main innovations of the TGVs which made them more economical than the brute-force 1960s Shinkansen approach. Tilting electric trains are the only thing that make almost-HSR networks possible anywhere in Europe outside of France, Germany, Italy, Spain, and Benelux.
Just because it works on basically the same principle does not mean it's old tech. Internal combustion engines were invented in the 19th century. Would you call your modern IC car "19th century tech"?
@@TohaBgood2 yes I would. A combustion engine is a combustion engine. I wouldn’t call it futuristic as a whole but certain aspects of a new technology I would. Same applies to Caltrain getting overhead catenary. Wires over a train to power it isn’t futuristic
these are huge, are they double deck? they don't exactly give us a good shot of the train, just the nose... i wish more places would adopt a more reasonable middle ground when it came to rolling stock, its usually long distance luxury inspired or tiny standing metro trains. Melbourne Australia has a good balance, while also having long distance trains that are comfortable
These are basically stock Stadler KISS units, so double deck.
@@kilodeltaeight Stock Stadler KISS have that awful arch in the upper walls that eat into your head space due to the restricted european loading gauge. The Caltrains' have a roomier design
Yes, they are double deck. They’ll be much nicer than the current cars Caltrain runs.
Awesome!
Better late then never... but still awesome news!
If Jackie Speier was involved its total bull sh$&.
Hmmmm…… took decades. I remember for decades people have wanted Bart that has always been electrical since the beginning to go down the peninsula instead of have loud trains come by every so often, disrupt traffic and occasionally be the cause of suicide by some high school kid in need of help.
The electric trains will be quieter than the diesel ones and how would BART be any quieter? And to your second point, that's a great case for why cities along the peninsula should be working to add grade separation at all train crossings.
BART are very quite. Kudos to Cal Train for joining the 50 year old technology. Great move since quiet trains remove another objection by NIMBY's
A while ago, I saw a screenshot from an old study on extending BART to I think past SFO. BART would apparently run as an express service while CalTrain would act as a local service which makes no sense based on the stop spacing. CalTrain should be treated as regional rail and BART as a proper metro.
Always nice to see 3rd world countries catching up.
They act like this is the year 1890.
"Look folks, electricity!!"
2024?
Is it safe?
Its literally what the rest of the world uses.
Most people use electricity in their homes, so yes?
@@randomscb-40charger78 I meant crime. SF has high crime rate.
Better late than never ever. America is 40 yrs behind. But when it comes to inflation 40 yrs record high. You know what the US priority is
It must have a bar car
This Jackie Speier Lady talks exactly the way we rest-of-the-world's laugh about. America hurr America durr..
Fcking fits the stereotypes 1to1
I'm jealous. Only the richest areas of Europe have those trains (like southern Germany).
You're getting the best of the best commuter trains.
PS they are "assembled in America", not made in America. Look closer at them, you'll notice small details.
yeah was kinda funny to hear a stadler kiss train described as being 100% american made.
Electric? Why don't I see any overhead wire? Is this train powered by Third Rail or this is just Diesel Electric?
there aer overhead wires all over the caltrain system today