It was never a coup as Wagner, a security company which started after they got their first assignment in Syria depended on Russian Defence Ministry to supply them all the money and weapons. Prigozhin may have other ideas. Putin allowed it to happen to see who is involved. Fortunately only a handful of misled followers. They were misled to believe that they were marching to arrest Sergio Shoigu the Minister of Defense on behalf of Putin. That is why Putin gave them to options, to join Russia Army to fight Ukraine or go in exile to Belarus. The mutiny may have traces of NATO DNA.
That was what Russian expected to happen. Prigozhin move last week was the perfect bait to the West. But no response from NATO/UK/USA. They just stunned. So, now Prigozhin was perfectly put in Belarus, next to NATO border. Even celebrated by the MSM. What a wonderful deception played by Putin, Lukashenko and Prigozhin. No coup or rebellion...😂😂😂
Wagner's leader is a big supporter of Donald Trump as is the Russian state media. Its time to accept the fact that when it comes to the American lefts support for Russia. The feeling isn't mutual.
Wagner's leader is a big supporter of Donald Trump as is the Russian state media. Its time to accept the fact that when it comes to the American lefts support for Russia. The feeling isn't mutual.
Wagner's leader is a big supporter of Donald Trump as is the Russian state media. Its time to accept the fact that when it comes to the American lefts support for Russia. The feeling isn't mutual.
Wagner's leader is a big supporter of Donald Trump as is the Russian state media. Its time to accept the fact that when it comes to the American lefts support for Russia. The feeling isn't mutual.
Wagner's leader is a big supporter of Donald Trump as is the Russian state media. Its time to accept the fact that when it comes to the American lefts support for Russia. The feeling isn't mutual.
Wagner's leader is a big supporter of Donald Trump as is the Russian state media. Its time to accept the fact that when it comes to the American lefts support for Russia. The feeling isn't mutual.
The way that Mr. Putin handle the Wagner situation is called leadership and a good one at that. A master chess player that he is. He defused the situation without given the enemy the opportunity to destabilize the country and plunge it into a military crisis that would've given the enemy the upper hand they haven't achieved in the war zone after months of confrontation. As far as those that instigated this botched coup in the middle of a war to save the country, they will all be exposed and I'm sure they would be dealt with in due time for traitors never achieve a happy ending. Shame they've chosen to die in infamy instead of honor.
@@rdsc.455timing was horrible, look what happened with Edrogan that coup solidified his position, he just got elected for another term couple weeks ago.
Don't worry about to much the Almighty God is still on the throne and promises to CRUSH all evil and all his enemies and establish his kingdom here on earth and Judge the nations and rule with a rod of Iron every knee will bow to the Almighty Jesus Christ the Soverign Lord of the universe 😊 and confess out of there mouths " Jesus is Lord" at his great coming Including Putin And who can Stand? Russia CRUSHED under the feet of Jesus for eternity Thank God
Well, a) many (Russian) people wondered (even before all that event) why Putin didn't act and did nothing to stop conflict between Wagner and Mistry of Defence. b) Belarusian president Lukashenko took honour to his name, telling that idea was his to negotiate and not kill Prigoshin, and Putin agreed with that. Lukashenko told in same event that he told to Prigoshin that he will be killed if he continues to Moscow, and that Belarus is also ready to deploy its army to defend Moscow against Prigoshin. I can see lot of mistakes Putin did. One was trusting the West, he really believed that USA and EU can be trusted. Only suddenly he started call those leaders as adversaries, instead of "our friends in west". Just last year. And I think he should acted much earlier in Ukraine, not allowing them to brainwash people for 8 years to become more extreme and more nazies, and anti-russian. He also stopped his army in beginning of the escalation of Ukrainian civil war, just to show good will. And people paid that in blood. He is not god-like genius who makes only good decisions. But also not tyrant as west tells him to be.
Good points but I think he did the best he could. Unfortunately, his adversary is called U.S.A. Imagine if Ukraine conflict could have been ended by diplomatic means early on? Olaf Scholz and Macron were running around trying to prevent the war. Erdogan tried to organize the negotiation. What did the U.S. do? They never show any desire to negotiate at all because they plan even before Maidan coup in 2014 so that we end up with this war.
Hi, just a note about Wagner and the rule of law. When the nazis started attacking the Donbass Republics, Russia could not get involved automatically without drawing the ire of the US and Europe. Putin established the Wagner PMC (troops drawn from serving Spetnaz brigades) to fight with the Donbass Republics. This also allowed Russia to support other countries that ask for it, without the legal hang up of Russia getting directly involved. The reason why Wagner PMC and the Chechnyians have to sign contracts is the Russian constitution does not allow for Private militaries (mercenaries) to fight on Russian soil, Once Russia recognised the Donbass Republics, they are now states within the Russian federation. The economy, Putin is a creature of law, he abides by the laws and constitution of Russia, he could not just take the businesses off the oligarchs, no matter how they got their hands on them. Remember, he has a PHD in economics and a law degree, everything by the book. This SMO has opened everything up for Putin and his government. The power of all Russian oligarchs has been taken from them, by the West. He has allowed those oligarchs back into Russia but now those oligarchs must keep their money in … Russia. Private and international investment has skyrocketed in Russia because Russian oligarch money can only be spent in Russia. The Russian military complex is running smoothly, they make weapons stock’s according to the states needs, unlike the West, hence why Russia is far out pacing military production compared to the West (the US and NATO and the West). You can see the BRICS strategy is straight out of Putin’s PHD thesis, “
It's funny how some people like you still fantasise about NAZI Ukrainians and at the same time more and more antisemitic Commentaries about Selenskyj and other Ukrainian politicians pop up. Here in Germany we have some right wing and NAZI demonstrations and guess what? You see a lot of Russian Flags with the NAZI flags. Last week there was in Germany an attack on a House with Ukrainian Refugees, with a flaming device. The attackers also painted some signs on the wall. A Swastika and a "Z". The commentaries in Russian state media about drowning Ukrainian Kids, the fantasies about destroying whole Ukrainian cities, the Putin speeches, which are mostly just rewritten Goebbels speeches, the swastikas seen at fighters from the "Wagner" Group (you know why it's called "Wagner" Group, right?), the swastika tattoos of Putins personal friends like Evgenij Nikitin (He was fired in Germany because of that,) demonstrate one thing: The NAZIs are Russians in this Conflict. Even the Russian state Flag is a NAZI Flag. It is the Vlasov Flag used in WW2 by the Russians, who fought for Hitler. But don't worry. Russia will lose. And to the term "Vassal-State": We had one. It was East Germany the DDR a Vassal of Russia. West Germany and now Germany made a lot of decisions in favour of Russia and not the USA. (That's why we ere stupidly so dependent on Russian Gas.) remember the two Irak wars? Germany didn't line up with the US. Same with politics in northern Africa. So altogether I don't think you have even one point. And by the way: Nobody here is afraid of a cold winter. Gas prises are down, the reserves are full. The economy in Germany is growing. Stockmarket goes up. Russia is going down. All fine.
Actually, Wagner was organized much earlier to allow Russia intervene in some African countries in support of their governments against Islamic extremist guerrillas, in many cases supported by the USA. Then they intervened in Syria and Donbass. I beleive there's even a monument in honor of the Wagner soldiers in the Central African Republic.
Wagner's leader is a big supporter of Donald Trump as is the Russian state media. Its time to accept the fact that when it comes to the American lefts support for Russia. The feeling isn't mutual.
@@stuartwray6175 Where I'm from we say rather or not so I own it. I think that language is something that belongs to all of us. I don't know who decided they prefer whether over rather but I don't.
The definition of a coup is what had happened when Prigoz was marching with heavily armed Wagner military towards Moscow. The Q is did he intend to topple the current Russian government. I think he did, there was nothing in his videos published to suggest otherwise, and he was paid for it.
@@agatharepasky7121 There's plenty to suggest that he didn't want to topple the government. He even said I don't want to topple the government. He says now that he didn't want to topple the government. At no point did anyone in Wagner ever say suggest or otherwise carry out actions which suggests that they wanted to topple the government.
Prigozhin showing up on camera, like he's a fighter, mags and armour and all, remember, he's a criminal, a thug, a chef and oligarch, no warrior. It's all show, like Zelenskyy, the TV clown. The whole thing is ridiculous.
Putin returned majority ownership of natural resources corporations to the state, but with private stock trading on exchanges, so it is semi-gov business. Russia produces its own aircraft , Sukhoi Superjet 100 and has prototypes to produce it without western components to start in 2024. Russia is not neo- liberal utopia, state pays for a lot. Just look how it is rebuilding Mariupol... 43,000 construction workers...free apartments... Russian state is paying for it.
@@astonmusonda8177Don't worry about to much the Almighty God is still on the throne and promises to CRUSH all evil and all his enemies and establish his kingdom here on earth and Judge the nations and rule with a rod of Iron every knee will bow to the Almighty Jesus Christ the Soverign Lord of the universe 😊 and confess out of there mouths " Jesus is Lord" at his great coming Including Putin And who can Stand? Russia CRUSHED under the feet of Jesus for eternity Thank God
Wagner's leader is a big supporter of Donald Trump as is the Russian state media. Its time to accept the fact that when it comes to the American lefts support for Russia. The feeling isn't mutual.
Don't worry about to much the Almighty God is still on the throne and promises to CRUSH all evil and all his enemies and establish his kingdom here on earth and Judge the nations and rule with a rod of Iron every knee will bow to the Almighty Jesus Christ the Soverign Lord of the universe 😊 and confess out of there mouths " Jesus is Lord" at his great coming Including Putin And who can Stand? Russia CRUSHED under the feet of Jesus for eternity Thank God
Wagner's leader is a big supporter of Donald Trump as is the Russian state media. Its time to accept the fact that when it comes to the American lefts support for Russia. The feeling isn't mutual.
Thank you for interesting and realistic analogies. Never seen Puryear bringing up so many interesting details to any conversation before. That was great. Agree with Becker that anti-communist reasoning of the West is/was far from the only reason behind their animosity against Russia or any other country.
And the sad thing since the west cannot see that russia is no longer practising communism. They learned their lesson that communism doesn't work the moment their economy collapse in 1991.
Wagner's leader is a big supporter of Donald Trump as is the Russian state media. Its time to accept the fact that when it comes to the American lefts support for Russia. The feeling isn't mutual.
Don't worry about to much the Almighty God is still on the throne and promises to CRUSH all evil and all his enemies and establish his kingdom here on earth and Judge the nations and rule with a rod of Iron every knee will bow to the Almighty Jesus Christ the Soverign Lord of the universe 😊 and confess out of there mouths " Jesus is Lord" at his great coming Including Putin And who can Stand? Russia CRUSHED under the feet of Jesus for eternity Thank God
Wagner's leader is a big supporter of Donald Trump as is the Russian state media. Its time to accept the fact that when it comes to the American lefts support for Russia. The feeling isn't mutual.
I am so glad that people around the world and especially in your country have access to your channel and the analysis you are making every time! Deeply thankful! 🙏
Wagner's leader is a big supporter of Donald Trump as is the Russian state media. Its time to accept the fact that when it comes to the American lefts support for Russia. The feeling isn't mutual.
As a matter of fact he would have been in control of the largest Nuclear power in the world 😂😂😂 because Russia in terms of nuclear capability and number of nuclear warheads surpasses the United states 😅😅 so now the discussion becomes more interesting and more frightening simultaneously 😊 ✅
This person Becker cannot get his facts straight, the one both you and I mention. A and the other ridiculous one that in 1989 , the USSR had the 2nd largest world economy and I stated the USSR at the time was not even in the top 10 as far as a world economy !
I like alternative outlets, for balanced information, but something else is going on in Russia that we aren not aware of. Clearly that Pregozhyn guy wanted to decapitate the government, not to replace it. Something is brewing on the highest echelons of power in Russia. And clarification is needed, the Wagner group is not a mercenary group, it responds to Russia's foreing policy at a low cost, low level of training in the classical military sense of strict following of the chain of command and it's become a rogue actor on several fronts. My guess is that Puting is not being appreciated by the Olygarchs and the russian olygarchs resent being cut off from western finances and they may be behind of this turmoil.
In consistent with an Authentic Catholic Prophecy by the Decree " The West think they are their own creators (exposes the serpents Lie at Eden - Ye be as gods) Salvation (Future) shall not come from the west but from Russia " Amen,
Authentic Prophecy comes from God especially a Decree, unless one thinks he is smarter than God, Like the Decree back then to a people in deep Apostasy "Ye shall not enter into my rest" From then till this day not a day of peace have they seen ,
EU wants a weak Russia so it can exploit its vast land and natural resources for the cheap. EU has the same "Lebensraum" (living spaces) dream like Hitler did.
Wagner were not mercenaries. They were a fully government funded army controlled by MoD. They were “off the books” like the CIA. They were never truly privately owned, just had a figure head whose main business was supplying catering to the armed forces.
Wagner's leader is a big supporter of Donald Trump as is the Russian state media. Its time to accept the fact that when it comes to the American lefts support for Russia. The feeling isn't mutual.
Wagner's leader is a big supporter of Donald Trump as is the Russian state media. Its time to accept the fact that when it comes to the American lefts support for Russia. The feeling isn't mutual.
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Wagner's leader is a big supporter of Donald Trump as is the Russian state media. Its time to accept the fact that when it comes to the American lefts support for Russia. The feeling isn't mutual.
I'm not sure Wagner was anything like Blackwater. It was state controlled and state funded all the time, but was presented as a PMC for plausible deniability in areas like Africa or Donbas of Ukraine, where Russia could not legally send its army. Its nothing to do with capitalization per se.
Similar issue in UK. The government announced that they were u-turning on the raising of the retirement age - proposal was + 2 years. I was delighted at that decision until I realised the reason for the u-turn. Because the avaerage life expectancy has declined by 6 years!!! And we do have a public health system (although it is partly privatised and substantially under-funded continually for last 13 years). So the problem is not only in USA.
Thank you for this intelligent presentation. Absolutely brilliant. Unquestionably the Western hegemonic alliance wants to destroy Russia, but for all its faults, Russia remains a great country with a long and rich history. Let's all learn from continued Russia's resistance to the western onslaught that it is possible to stand up.
The most annoying thing about the last Putin's announcement was that he was comparing the revolution of 1917 to Prigozhin's betrayal. Proletarians' revolution can be called betrayal only by bourgeoisie and recently he frankly called himself like that (bourgeois).
That was what Russian expected to happen. Prigozhin move last week was the perfect bait to the West. But no response from NATO/UK/USA. They just stunned. So, now Prigozhin was perfectly put in Belarus, next to NATO border. Even celebrated by the MSM. What a wonderful deception played by Putin, Lukashenko and Prigozhin. No coup or rebellion...😂😂😂
And here we have someone who doesn't know his history. He didn't say it was October revolution. The revolution majority of Russians here in Russia thought of was the February revolution of 1917
There is no need for an all powerful tyrant to keep RF together. The real strength of RF is a polity that is matured, generally on the same page/vision, confident in their collective strength as a people, and gifted with a leader who understands all this.
That was what Russian expected to happen. Prigozhin move last week was the perfect bait to the West. But no response from NATO/UK/USA. They just stunned. So, now Prigozhin was perfectly put in Belarus, next to NATO border. Even celebrated by MSM. What a wonderful deception played by Putin, Lukashenko and Prigozhin. No coup or rebellion...😂😂😂
Listening to Chris and his best read invitees is not unalike attending an ex cathedra lecture by a prominent erudite professor. Indeed, we your regular viewers always acquire tonnes of insightful knowledge on geopolitics from each of your update. Much appreciation for your precious time, tireless efforts and limited resources! Do keep them flowing uninterruptedly!
Wagner's leader is a big supporter of Donald Trump as is the Russian state media. Its time to accept the fact that when it comes to the American lefts support for Russia. The feeling isn't mutual.
Don't worry about to much the Almighty God is still on the throne and promises to CRUSH all evil and all his enemies and establish his kingdom here on earth and Judge the nations and rule with a rod of Iron every knee will bow to the Almighty Jesus Christ the Soverign Lord of the universe 😊 and confess out of there mouths " Jesus is Lord" at his great coming Including Putin And who can Stand? Russia CRUSHED under the feet of Jesus for eternity Thank God
Russia is part of the chain command.coming from the kingdom of darkness (Satan) Satan twisted your head on backwards its not screwed on all the way God is Holy and in Righteousness he establishes his kingdom and his domaine To save all his people all who belong to him who are cleansed and overcome him (Satan) by the blood of the Lamb
About this post, I agree it’s one of the most illuminating. Eugene being the one with the illumination this could have been denser if Brian didn’t have to occupy so much question time with obvious preludes (common mistake among UA-cam posters). Hope this will be taken as a well meaning suggestion. My general comment is how Putin has taken calm and calculated decisions in critical moments compared to emotional trigger reactions by the west (eg Xi is a dictator comment when Blinken failed to bend the Chinese to American will or the glee in Brussels and London over Prigozhin’s misadventure). I can imagine how that glee would have turned into horror if the one time chef got hold of the largest nuclear array against the west.
Eugene is great, I really enjoyed watching. Wagner was supplied and paid for by the Russian MOD. So without support from politicians and MOD Prigozhin was doomed to fail. He's lost his School Dinner catering contract Concord.
Still looking at Russia thru strictly "Western" lens. You people really ought to try understand Russia or China, before pretending to be "experts". You can't be experts if you are always discussingbstuff from a "Western" viewpoint and also always getting it wrong.
What I don’t understand is why Putin allowed prigozhin to remain with the soldiers on the front, festering until crisis. Either they allowed it to happen or they could not prevent it by removing him. There’s no way Putin gov did not see this trouble brewing. I think prigozhin was frustrated as the head of Wagner, but having to obey and rely on the MOD. He seemed to never leave the front so he was seeing a lot of death and was unable to run operations and logistics as Wagner would like. And then the MOD announced that they were absorbing Wagner and this would make prigozhin irrelevant, loosing power, influence, and money. Perhaps his March was not a coup, but rather a blackmail attempt to keep Wagner and give himself more power in the gov and over the way the war is waged.
@53:00 it has nothing to do with ideology. The Soviet model was the best they could do under a war economy. Under Stalin they managed exponential growth with great sacrifice. Putin and the Economic planners around him seem to be worked Ng in that direction. Nabiulina focused on austerity not because of liberal leaning but to curtail rentiers in preparation for an economic war. Last year Macron started complaining loudly that France has to revert to a war economy. One thing he's not doing is cutting down rentiers to size. Instead he's putting all the burden on the working class.
I was surprised about how an head of small mercenary army challenge a power with largest army and reach almost 130 kms outside Moscow. It was a stage managed show to identify enemy within.
Wagner's leader is a big supporter of Donald Trump as is the Russian state media. Its time to accept the fact that when it comes to the American lefts support for Russia. The feeling isn't mutual.
Also you clearly give the Russian government far to much credit in the intelligence department. As a Russian citizen I can tell you straight away they are not nearly as smart as you and other foreigners seem to think.
I wonder if and when the Ukrainian people will ever awaken to the horrors that the US and the west are doing to them. The late great Bob Marley said in one of his songs: (your worse enemy could be your best friend and your best friend your worse enemy). Are they taking the time to consider their future options where this war with Russia is concerned? And here comes the next big question: How are the people in Taiwan viewing these developments? Are they taking notes? If the US and the west are incapable of protecting Ukraine how can they protect Taiwan from China if it comes down to hostilities?
One of Putin best achievement is forcing the Russian Oligarchs to invest "their capital" into the Russian economy on a level none of his predecessor had manage to accomplish before, although certainly his predecessor did attempts to do the same, and it accomodate to what it is during Putin administration.
I am surprised because if Russia has Aerospace capability to leave the atmosphere and jet off to their space station but lack the ability to build a plane to fly overland? Something is not adding upright.
My theory as to why Prigozhin did what he did, was simply because of his arrogance & ego. Also of importance to remember is this. Just a day after this move by Prigozhin, a mysterious amount of aid to Ukraine, in the form of monetary aid, could not be accounted for, what was this money for, a big payoff to Prigozhin???? Wouldn't surprise me one bit, that he was paid to do it by American secret intelligence agency. Because this kind of thing, is the type of thing that America does all over the place. Bribing dictators, or as I call it, rewarding dictators who pander to US interests, just like Pinoche of Chile, & others like him, a US puppet etc etc. The reason why it failed, is because of the Belarusian leader stepped in, to defuse a situation that could've ended with bloodshed. There's one thing that I've learned from western foreign policy. The west likes to pit two political sides against each other in other countries to the point of starting civil wars & conflicts, just to destabilise a country, to set ground work for a foreign coup. Just so the west can install their pro-western puppets, it's the exact same thing with Hong Kong, with Taiwan, North/South Korea, India/Pakistan, getting the picture yet???? The west has been using divide & conquer, destabilising other regions around the world for decades & has NOT stopped doing this disgusting act, it's like the west is addicted to this dirty tactic of divide & conquer. When I say the west, I don't mean every single person, I'm only talking about the leaders, the msm in the west, so for people in the west, don't be offended, because I'm not talking about you, I'm talking about your stupid western governments & msm.
And that is why the West, specialy the United States and the Ukrainean government were so much deceived because the coup didn't succeeded. The mainstream médias in the West spoke during days and days about this coup in Russia hoping to succeed by this way to destabilize the Russian government. They couldn't believe that it failed.
Don't worry about to much the Almighty God is still on the throne and promises to CRUSH all evil and all his enemies and establish his kingdom here on earth and Judge the nations and rule with a rod of Iron every knee will bow to the Almighty Jesus Christ the Soverign Lord of the universe 😊 and confess out of there mouths " Jesus is Lord" at his great coming Including Putin And who can Stand? Russia CRUSHED under the feet of Jesus for eternity Thank God
Wish someone had a discussion on US oligarchs and despots that are indeed capitalist and calling them elites doesn't fool anyone. If I was a Warhawk like a military mercenary who pays the best is a conflict to missions and private parties... pmc or more commonly known as proxies.
At times I believe Wagner and NATO are of the same mold which is called mercenary groups. This has shown mercenaries can sanitize themselves to legal platform. NATO whether it involves USA or USA and European countries have no legal standing to UN recognized countries and that is why I believe they are similar and are mercenaries.
The coup failed the west allies are crying 😂😂😂
It was never a coup as Wagner, a security company which started after they got their first assignment in Syria depended on Russian Defence Ministry to supply them all the money and weapons. Prigozhin may have other ideas.
Putin allowed it to happen to see who is involved. Fortunately only a handful of misled followers.
They were misled to believe that they were marching to arrest Sergio Shoigu the Minister of Defense on behalf of Putin. That is why Putin gave them to options, to join Russia Army to fight Ukraine or go in exile to Belarus.
The mutiny may have traces of NATO DNA.
Fact
That was what Russian expected to happen. Prigozhin move last week was the perfect bait to the West. But no response from NATO/UK/USA. They just stunned. So, now Prigozhin was perfectly put in Belarus, next to NATO border. Even celebrated by the MSM. What a wonderful deception played by Putin, Lukashenko and Prigozhin. No coup or rebellion...😂😂😂
@@tommyboss4067 Master chess!!-
Wagner's leader is a big supporter of Donald Trump as is the Russian state media. Its time to accept the fact that when it comes to the American lefts support for Russia. The feeling isn't mutual.
Eugene Puryear is spot on 👍
What an analysis by Brian Becker & Eugene Puryear. You guys are AMAZINGLY GOOD. Thank you so much & God bless you.
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Wagner's leader is a big supporter of Donald Trump as is the Russian state media. Its time to accept the fact that when it comes to the American lefts support for Russia. The feeling isn't mutual.
Eugene for the President of US.
👍👍👍💪
The absolute best analysis anywhere in the world.
I agree good analysis but president, no.
Wagner's leader is a big supporter of Donald Trump as is the Russian state media. Its time to accept the fact that when it comes to the American lefts support for Russia. The feeling isn't mutual.
Thanks to both of you Brian Becker and Eugene Puryear for this great analysis!!🙏🙏🙌👏
Great analysis isn't considered a coup attempt.
Wagner's leader is a big supporter of Donald Trump as is the Russian state media. Its time to accept the fact that when it comes to the American lefts support for Russia. The feeling isn't mutual.
Great analysis Eugene & Brian. Thank you so much!
Wagner's leader is a big supporter of Donald Trump as is the Russian state media. Its time to accept the fact that when it comes to the American lefts support for Russia. The feeling isn't mutual.
The dynamic duo, Eugene & Brian , always strong on geopolitical analysis. Thanks.
Wagner's leader is a big supporter of Donald Trump as is the Russian state media. Its time to accept the fact that when it comes to the American lefts support for Russia. The feeling isn't mutual.
The way that Mr. Putin handle the Wagner situation is called leadership and a good one at that. A master chess player that he is.
He defused the situation without given the enemy the opportunity to destabilize the country and plunge it into a military crisis that would've given the enemy the upper hand they haven't achieved in the war zone after months of confrontation.
As far as those that instigated this botched coup in the middle of a war to save the country, they will all be exposed and I'm sure they would be dealt with in due time for traitors never achieve a happy ending.
Shame they've chosen to die in infamy instead of honor.
But was the time he chose to deal with all this correct ??
@@rdsc.455timing was horrible, look what happened with Edrogan that coup solidified his position, he just got elected for another term couple weeks ago.
Don't worry about to much the Almighty God is still on the throne and promises to CRUSH all evil and all his enemies and establish his kingdom here on earth and Judge the nations and rule with a rod of Iron every knee will bow to the Almighty Jesus Christ the Soverign Lord of the universe 😊 and confess out of there mouths " Jesus is Lord" at his great coming
Including Putin
And who can Stand?
Russia CRUSHED under the feet of Jesus for eternity
Thank God
Well, a) many (Russian) people wondered (even before all that event) why Putin didn't act and did nothing to stop conflict between Wagner and Mistry of Defence.
b) Belarusian president Lukashenko took honour to his name, telling that idea was his to negotiate and not kill Prigoshin, and Putin agreed with that. Lukashenko told in same event that he told to Prigoshin that he will be killed if he continues to Moscow, and that Belarus is also ready to deploy its army to defend Moscow against Prigoshin.
I can see lot of mistakes Putin did. One was trusting the West, he really believed that USA and EU can be trusted. Only suddenly he started call those leaders as adversaries, instead of "our friends in west". Just last year. And I think he should acted much earlier in Ukraine, not allowing them to brainwash people for 8 years to become more extreme and more nazies, and anti-russian. He also stopped his army in beginning of the escalation of Ukrainian civil war, just to show good will. And people paid that in blood. He is not god-like genius who makes only good decisions. But also not tyrant as west tells him to be.
Good points but I think he did the best he could. Unfortunately, his adversary is called U.S.A.
Imagine if Ukraine conflict could have been ended by diplomatic means early on?
Olaf Scholz and Macron were running around trying to prevent the war. Erdogan tried to organize the negotiation. What did the U.S. do? They never show any desire to negotiate at all because they plan even before Maidan coup in 2014 so that we end up with this war.
Hi, just a note about Wagner and the rule of law. When the nazis started attacking the Donbass Republics, Russia could not get involved automatically without drawing the ire of the US and Europe. Putin established the Wagner PMC (troops drawn from serving Spetnaz brigades) to fight with the Donbass Republics. This also allowed Russia to support other countries that ask for it, without the legal hang up of Russia getting directly involved. The reason why Wagner PMC and the Chechnyians have to sign contracts is the Russian constitution does not allow for Private militaries (mercenaries) to fight on Russian soil, Once Russia recognised the Donbass Republics, they are now states within the Russian federation. The economy, Putin is a creature of law, he abides by the laws and constitution of Russia, he could not just take the businesses off the oligarchs, no matter how they got their hands on them. Remember, he has a PHD in economics and a law degree, everything by the book. This SMO has opened everything up for Putin and his government. The power of all Russian oligarchs has been taken from them, by the West. He has allowed those oligarchs back into Russia but now those oligarchs must keep their money in … Russia. Private and international investment has skyrocketed in Russia because Russian oligarch money can only be spent in Russia. The Russian military complex is running smoothly, they make weapons stock’s according to the states needs, unlike the West, hence why Russia is far out pacing military production compared to the West (the US and NATO and the West). You can see the BRICS strategy is straight out of Putin’s PHD thesis, “
It's funny how some people like you still fantasise about NAZI Ukrainians and at the same time more and more antisemitic Commentaries about Selenskyj and other Ukrainian politicians pop up. Here in Germany we have some right wing and NAZI demonstrations and guess what? You see a lot of Russian Flags with the NAZI flags. Last week there was in Germany an attack on a House with Ukrainian Refugees, with a flaming device. The attackers also painted some signs on the wall. A Swastika and a "Z". The commentaries in Russian state media about drowning Ukrainian Kids, the fantasies about destroying whole Ukrainian cities, the Putin speeches, which are mostly just rewritten Goebbels speeches, the swastikas seen at fighters from the "Wagner" Group (you know why it's called "Wagner" Group, right?), the swastika tattoos of Putins personal friends like Evgenij Nikitin (He was fired in Germany because of that,) demonstrate one thing: The NAZIs are Russians in this Conflict. Even the Russian state Flag is a NAZI Flag. It is the Vlasov Flag used in WW2 by the Russians, who fought for Hitler. But don't worry. Russia will lose. And to the term "Vassal-State": We had one. It was East Germany the DDR a Vassal of Russia. West Germany and now Germany made a lot of decisions in favour of Russia and not the USA. (That's why we ere stupidly so dependent on Russian Gas.) remember the two Irak wars? Germany didn't line up with the US. Same with politics in northern Africa. So altogether I don't think you have even one point. And by the way: Nobody here is afraid of a cold winter. Gas prises are down, the reserves are full. The economy in Germany is growing. Stockmarket goes up. Russia is going down. All fine.
Actually, Wagner was organized much earlier to allow Russia intervene in some African countries in support of their governments against Islamic extremist guerrillas, in many cases supported by the USA. Then they intervened in Syria and Donbass. I beleive there's even a monument in honor of the Wagner soldiers in the Central African Republic.
Wagner's leader is a big supporter of Donald Trump as is the Russian state media. Its time to accept the fact that when it comes to the American lefts support for Russia. The feeling isn't mutual.
You're asking the wrong question. It isn't a question of rather the coup failed or not. It's a question of rather or not there was a coup at all.
Yea think what is a coup??
'a question of rather or not'
@@stuartwray6175 Where I'm from we say rather or not so I own it. I think that language is something that belongs to all of us. I don't know who decided they prefer whether over rather but I don't.
The definition of a coup is what had happened when Prigoz was marching with heavily armed Wagner military towards Moscow. The Q is did he intend to topple the current Russian government. I think he did, there was nothing in his videos published to suggest otherwise, and he was paid for it.
@@agatharepasky7121 There's plenty to suggest that he didn't want to topple the government. He even said I don't want to topple the government. He says now that he didn't want to topple the government. At no point did anyone in Wagner ever say suggest or otherwise carry out actions which suggests that they wanted to topple the government.
Prigozhin showing up on camera, like he's a fighter, mags and armour and all, remember, he's a criminal, a thug, a chef and oligarch, no warrior.
It's all show, like Zelenskyy, the TV clown. The whole thing is ridiculous.
Putin returned majority ownership of natural resources corporations to the state, but with private stock trading on exchanges, so it is semi-gov business. Russia produces its own aircraft , Sukhoi Superjet 100 and has prototypes to produce it without western components to start in 2024. Russia is not neo- liberal utopia, state pays for a lot. Just look how it is rebuilding Mariupol... 43,000 construction workers...free apartments... Russian state is paying for it.
Pragozhin will not be around too much longer !
He's a dead man walking.
All devil's attacks lies plans deeds psy ops be failed stopped in the name of Jesus Christ!
@@astonmusonda8177Don't worry about to much the Almighty God is still on the throne and promises to CRUSH all evil and all his enemies and establish his kingdom here on earth and Judge the nations and rule with a rod of Iron every knee will bow to the Almighty Jesus Christ the Soverign Lord of the universe 😊 and confess out of there mouths " Jesus is Lord" at his great coming
Including Putin
And who can Stand?
Russia CRUSHED under the feet of Jesus for eternity
Thank God
He is a caged parrot now at mercy of Putin.
Congrats to Eugene Puryear for such a great lecture!❤
Wagner's leader is a big supporter of Donald Trump as is the Russian state media. Its time to accept the fact that when it comes to the American lefts support for Russia. The feeling isn't mutual.
Russia can not fall, can not let evils win. 😛
Don't worry about to much the Almighty God is still on the throne and promises to CRUSH all evil and all his enemies and establish his kingdom here on earth and Judge the nations and rule with a rod of Iron every knee will bow to the Almighty Jesus Christ the Soverign Lord of the universe 😊 and confess out of there mouths " Jesus is Lord" at his great coming
Including Putin
And who can Stand?
Russia CRUSHED under the feet of Jesus for eternity
Thank God
The most valuable interview I came across watching different sources in search of impartial insights about what’s going on. Thank you so much!!
Wagner's leader is a big supporter of Donald Trump as is the Russian state media. Its time to accept the fact that when it comes to the American lefts support for Russia. The feeling isn't mutual.
Thank you for interesting and realistic analogies.
Never seen Puryear bringing up so many interesting details to any conversation before. That was great.
Agree with Becker that anti-communist reasoning of the West is/was far from the only reason behind their animosity against Russia or any other country.
And the sad thing since the west cannot see that russia is no longer practising communism. They learned their lesson that communism doesn't work the moment their economy collapse in 1991.
Wagner's leader is a big supporter of Donald Trump as is the Russian state media. Its time to accept the fact that when it comes to the American lefts support for Russia. The feeling isn't mutual.
Russia has to stay united and strong, once again the world depends on you guys🇬🇷❤️🇷🇺
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Don't worry about to much the Almighty God is still on the throne and promises to CRUSH all evil and all his enemies and establish his kingdom here on earth and Judge the nations and rule with a rod of Iron every knee will bow to the Almighty Jesus Christ the Soverign Lord of the universe 😊 and confess out of there mouths " Jesus is Lord" at his great coming
Including Putin
And who can Stand?
Russia CRUSHED under the feet of Jesus for eternity
Thank God
Δεν είναι φοβεροί δημοσιογράφοι κι αναλυτές αυτοί οι δύο;
LOLOLOLOL
AGREE 100%! WITH THOSE WHO KNOW THE RUSSIA'S HISTORY
Wagner's leader is a big supporter of Donald Trump as is the Russian state media. Its time to accept the fact that when it comes to the American lefts support for Russia. The feeling isn't mutual.
Very good analysis - I say this as person who lived several years in Russia and focused on knowing Russia.
i especially enjoyed the eye opening talk about putins balancing act, very thoughtfull , thank you
It's more like a labor strike. An in-house affair.
Excellent, thank you both. 🙏
I am so glad that people around the world and especially in your country have access to your channel and the analysis you are making every time!
Deeply thankful! 🙏
Wagner's leader is a big supporter of Donald Trump as is the Russian state media. Its time to accept the fact that when it comes to the American lefts support for Russia. The feeling isn't mutual.
Outstanding insight. Much appreciated.
As a matter of fact he would have been in control of the largest Nuclear power in the world 😂😂😂 because Russia in terms of nuclear capability and number of nuclear warheads surpasses the United states 😅😅 so now the discussion becomes more interesting and more frightening simultaneously 😊 ✅
This person Becker cannot get his facts straight, the one both you and I mention. A and the other ridiculous one that in 1989 , the USSR had the 2nd largest world economy and I stated the USSR at the time was not even in the top 10 as far as a world economy !
I like alternative outlets, for balanced information, but something else is going on in Russia that we aren not aware of. Clearly that Pregozhyn guy wanted to decapitate the government, not to replace it. Something is brewing on the highest echelons of power in Russia. And clarification is needed, the Wagner group is not a mercenary group, it responds to Russia's foreing policy at a low cost, low level of training in the classical military sense of strict following of the chain of command and it's become a rogue actor on several fronts. My guess is that Puting is not being appreciated by the Olygarchs and the russian olygarchs resent being cut off from western finances and they may be behind of this turmoil.
God is on the side of Russia! It won’t ever break!!
In consistent with an Authentic Catholic Prophecy by the Decree " The West think they are their own creators (exposes the serpents Lie at Eden - Ye be as gods) Salvation (Future) shall not come from the west but from Russia "
Amen,
Amen 🙏🏽
Authentic Prophecy comes from God especially a Decree, unless one thinks he is smarter than God,
Like the Decree back then to a people in deep Apostasy "Ye shall not enter into my rest" From then till this day not a day of peace have they seen ,
EU wants a weak Russia so it can exploit its vast land and natural resources for the cheap. EU has the same "Lebensraum" (living spaces) dream like Hitler did.
Don't believe all trolls
Excellent analysis 👏🏽
Wagner were not mercenaries. They were a fully government funded army controlled by MoD. They were “off the books” like the CIA. They were never truly privately owned, just had a figure head whose main business was supplying catering to the armed forces.
Wagner's leader is a big supporter of Donald Trump as is the Russian state media. Its time to accept the fact that when it comes to the American lefts support for Russia. The feeling isn't mutual.
Makes sense
The absolute best analysis that I have watched even among closer outlets to us; thx🙏💐
Wagner's leader is a big supporter of Donald Trump as is the Russian state media. Its time to accept the fact that when it comes to the American lefts support for Russia. The feeling isn't mutual.
Definitely great talk and analysis. Thank you.
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Great conversation.
As Socialists we sould be more concerned about what Putin said about 1917. He called that a mutiny.
Thanks for alternative views on the Russian affair
That was not a coup.
Fantastic episode and analysis guys the fact that it was a nationalization v privatization really shreds light on the situation
Wagner's leader is a big supporter of Donald Trump as is the Russian state media. Its time to accept the fact that when it comes to the American lefts support for Russia. The feeling isn't mutual.
Unbiased analysis.
I'm not sure Wagner was anything like Blackwater. It was state controlled and state funded all the time, but was presented as a PMC for plausible deniability in areas like Africa or Donbas of Ukraine, where Russia could not legally send its army. Its nothing to do with capitalization per se.
Correction.. ..Wagner was NOT anything like Blackwater…. Or …Wagner was NOTHING like Blackwater….
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@@khunmikeon858 I started the sentence with "I'm NOT sure Wagner WAS...", so I think my sentence formation was correct. But thanks anyway.
The wagner "attempted coup" in Russia was a master stroke in terms of sifting the ranks and discouraging such a move by others in future.
What is the life expectancy of American men today? I heard it has declined by at least 3 years since post 9/11?
What can one expect in a 3rd world country where many people do not have access to health care !
Similar issue in UK. The government announced that they were u-turning on the raising of the retirement age - proposal was + 2 years.
I was delighted at that decision until I realised the reason for the u-turn. Because the avaerage life expectancy has declined by 6 years!!! And we do have a public health system (although it is partly privatised and substantially under-funded continually for last 13 years).
So the problem is not only in USA.
Magnificent insight…thank you….my 1st time…..wholeheartedly agree..
Very good analysis. Thank you
Great analysis
Thank you for this intelligent presentation. Absolutely brilliant. Unquestionably the Western hegemonic alliance wants to destroy Russia, but for all its faults, Russia remains a great country with a long and rich history. Let's all learn from continued Russia's resistance to the western onslaught that it is possible to stand up.
Good stuff, thanks for the coverage, comrades
This is a great and brilliant analysis and commentary.
I imagine the US and its allies paid him at least 100 million
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Brilliant analysis. Well said 👊🏿
This is a good podcast. Thank Brian.
The most annoying thing about the last Putin's announcement was that he was comparing the revolution of 1917 to Prigozhin's betrayal. Proletarians' revolution can be called betrayal only by bourgeoisie and recently he frankly called himself like that (bourgeois).
That was what Russian expected to happen. Prigozhin move last week was the perfect bait to the West. But no response from NATO/UK/USA. They just stunned. So, now Prigozhin was perfectly put in Belarus, next to NATO border. Even celebrated by the MSM. What a wonderful deception played by Putin, Lukashenko and Prigozhin. No coup or rebellion...😂😂😂
And here we have someone who doesn't know his history. He didn't say it was October revolution. The revolution majority of Russians here in Russia thought of was the February revolution of 1917
Life expectancy in the US isn't much these days either.
Pregoshin is a mercenary. MONEY talks louder than loyalty
I love this analysis.❤
Putin is not weak, He has the wisdom from the Almighty Father.
Great work thanks
There is no need for an all powerful tyrant to keep RF together. The real strength of RF is a polity that is matured, generally on the same page/vision, confident in their collective strength as a people, and gifted with a leader who understands all this.
Fantastic analysis!
That was what Russian expected to happen. Prigozhin move last week was the perfect bait to the West. But no response from NATO/UK/USA. They just stunned. So, now Prigozhin was perfectly put in Belarus, next to NATO border. Even celebrated by MSM. What a wonderful deception played by Putin, Lukashenko and Prigozhin. No coup or rebellion...😂😂😂
The most stupid decision that US did was to bring Russia and China closer😂
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Wagner's leader is a big supporter of Donald Trump as is the Russian state media. Its time to accept the fact that when it comes to the American lefts support for Russia. The feeling isn't mutual.
Great perspective
Putin has strong personality,well informed , Russian must be proud of him.
Don't worry about to much the Almighty God is still on the throne and promises to CRUSH all evil and all his enemies and establish his kingdom here on earth and Judge the nations and rule with a rod of Iron every knee will bow to the Almighty Jesus Christ the Soverign Lord of the universe 😊 and confess out of there mouths " Jesus is Lord" at his great coming
Including Putin
And who can Stand?
Russia CRUSHED under the feet of Jesus for eternity
Thank God
Devil's nato war against Russia be failed!
Russia is part of the chain command.coming from the kingdom of darkness (Satan)
Satan twisted your head on backwards its not screwed on all the way
God is Holy and in Righteousness he establishes his kingdom and his domaine
To save all his people all who belong to him who are cleansed and overcome him (Satan) by the blood of the Lamb
About this post, I agree it’s one of the most illuminating. Eugene being the one with the illumination this could have been denser if Brian didn’t have to occupy so much question time with obvious preludes (common mistake among UA-cam posters). Hope this will be taken as a well meaning suggestion. My general comment is how Putin has taken calm and calculated decisions in critical moments compared to emotional trigger reactions by the west (eg Xi is a dictator comment when Blinken failed to bend the Chinese to American will or the glee in Brussels and London over Prigozhin’s misadventure). I can imagine how that glee would have turned into horror if the one time chef got hold of the largest nuclear array against the west.
If there is cooperation and understanding between US and Russia (it is not possible, but just guessing), the arms industry has no business.
All the best to Russia!
Eugene is great, I really enjoyed watching. Wagner was supplied and paid for by the Russian MOD. So without support from politicians and MOD Prigozhin was doomed to fail. He's lost his School Dinner catering contract Concord.
Oh the futility and misery of labeling one self according to Ideology
Prigozin was a though ,war criminal and the terrorist. Now he's a fighter for democracy and freedom 😂😂😂😂
Why the coup failed? Because it wasn't a coup. It was a protest against the military leadership being provided by Shoigu and Gerasimov.
Selling military process is a centuries old tradition - the chivalric European knights and crusaders.
Excellent discussion. A - "Special Edition".. USA is like Michael Corleone.. 🙃
very useful info; very useful. bring more
Still looking at Russia thru strictly "Western" lens. You people really ought to try understand Russia or China, before pretending to be "experts". You can't be experts if you are always discussingbstuff from a "Western" viewpoint and also always getting it wrong.
Putin has shown the west how strong he is,very Smart, Africa needs Russia for peace
What I don’t understand is why Putin allowed prigozhin to remain with the soldiers on the front, festering until crisis. Either they allowed it to happen or they could not prevent it by removing him. There’s no way Putin gov did not see this trouble brewing.
I think prigozhin was frustrated as the head of Wagner, but having to obey and rely on the MOD. He seemed to never leave the front so he was seeing a lot of death and was unable to run operations and logistics as Wagner would like. And then the MOD announced that they were absorbing Wagner and this would make prigozhin irrelevant, loosing power, influence, and money. Perhaps his March was not a coup, but rather a blackmail attempt to keep Wagner and give himself more power in the gov and over the way the war is waged.
@53:00 it has nothing to do with ideology. The Soviet model was the best they could do under a war economy. Under Stalin they managed exponential growth with great sacrifice. Putin and the Economic planners around him seem to be worked Ng in that direction. Nabiulina focused on austerity not because of liberal leaning but to curtail rentiers in preparation for an economic war.
Last year Macron started complaining loudly that France has to revert to a war economy. One thing he's not doing is cutting down rentiers to size. Instead he's putting all the burden on the working class.
Why there's destabilization of government in US? Because there's no US embassy in US itself....
"Everybody Whats To Rule The World"
sounds like Prigozhin was pulling a gangsta move because Vladdy was messing with his bag
I was surprised about how an head of small mercenary army challenge a power with largest army and reach almost 130 kms outside Moscow. It was a stage managed show to identify enemy within.
Wagner's leader is a big supporter of Donald Trump as is the Russian state media. Its time to accept the fact that when it comes to the American lefts support for Russia. The feeling isn't mutual.
Also you clearly give the Russian government far to much credit in the intelligence department. As a Russian citizen I can tell you straight away they are not nearly as smart as you and other foreigners seem to think.
I wonder if and when the Ukrainian people will ever awaken to the horrors that the US and the west are doing to them. The late great Bob Marley said in one of his songs: (your worse enemy could be your best friend and your best friend your worse enemy). Are they taking the time to consider their future options where this war with Russia is concerned? And here comes the next big question: How are the people in Taiwan viewing these developments? Are they taking notes? If the US and the west are incapable of protecting Ukraine how can they protect Taiwan from China if it comes down to hostilities?
there is one comander in russia and russians love him and thats is putin
The issue of the Wagner group has not ended. Until Putin is deposed. There would not be peace in Russia
Gotta duff ma hat to Monseur Putin.. fighting a war & foiling a coup at the same time! .. no easy feat, by any stretch of imagination 🤔💁🏾♂️
"We had nothing to do with it".
- OK, no no hard feelings.
I hope you don't mind if we start destroying the command centers now.
One of Putin best achievement is forcing the Russian Oligarchs to invest "their capital" into the Russian economy on a level none of his predecessor had manage to accomplish before, although certainly his predecessor did attempts to do the same, and it accomodate to what it is during Putin administration.
I am surprised because if Russia has Aerospace capability to leave the atmosphere and jet off to their space station but lack the ability to build a plane to fly overland? Something is not adding upright.
2:12 - By the way, according to most data I have seen Russia has the biggest nuclear arsenal in the world currently.
Putin - the greatest statesman ever.
My theory as to why Prigozhin did what he did, was simply because of his arrogance & ego. Also of importance to remember is this. Just a day after this move by Prigozhin, a mysterious amount of aid to Ukraine, in the form of monetary aid, could not be accounted for, what was this money for, a big payoff to Prigozhin???? Wouldn't surprise me one bit, that he was paid to do it by American secret intelligence agency. Because this kind of thing, is the type of thing that America does all over the place. Bribing dictators, or as I call it, rewarding dictators who pander to US interests, just like Pinoche of Chile, & others like him, a US puppet etc etc.
The reason why it failed, is because of the Belarusian leader stepped in, to defuse a situation that could've ended with bloodshed. There's one thing that I've learned from western foreign policy. The west likes to pit two political sides against each other in other countries to the point of starting civil wars & conflicts, just to destabilise a country, to set ground work for a foreign coup. Just so the west can install their pro-western puppets, it's the exact same thing with Hong Kong, with Taiwan, North/South Korea, India/Pakistan, getting the picture yet???? The west has been using divide & conquer, destabilising other regions around the world for decades & has NOT stopped doing this disgusting act, it's like the west is addicted to this dirty tactic of divide & conquer. When I say the west, I don't mean every single person, I'm only talking about the leaders, the msm in the west, so for people in the west, don't be offended, because I'm not talking about you, I'm talking about your stupid western governments & msm.
And that is why the West, specialy the United States and the Ukrainean government were so much deceived because the coup didn't succeeded. The mainstream médias in the West spoke during days and days about this coup in Russia hoping to succeed by this way to destabilize the Russian government. They couldn't believe that it failed.
all the best to Russia!
Don't worry about to much the Almighty God is still on the throne and promises to CRUSH all evil and all his enemies and establish his kingdom here on earth and Judge the nations and rule with a rod of Iron every knee will bow to the Almighty Jesus Christ the Soverign Lord of the universe 😊 and confess out of there mouths " Jesus is Lord" at his great coming
Including Putin
And who can Stand?
Russia CRUSHED under the feet of Jesus for eternity
Thank God
Wish someone had a discussion on US oligarchs and despots that are indeed capitalist and calling them elites doesn't fool anyone. If I was a Warhawk like a military mercenary who pays the best is a conflict to missions and private parties... pmc or more commonly known as proxies.
😂 PUTIN WAS SO 😳 OF HIM PUTIN WAS ON 📺 🏃🏃 AWAY 😂 PUTIN DIDN'T LOOK BACK TO SEE IF HIS PEOPLE WAS OKAY OR NOT PUTIN JUST 🏃 😂
At times I believe Wagner and NATO are of the same mold which is called mercenary groups. This has shown mercenaries can sanitize themselves to legal platform. NATO whether it involves USA or USA and European countries have no legal standing to UN recognized countries and that is why I believe they are similar and are mercenaries.
Brian keep your eye on the ball the end game will happen in July .