A Dinosaur The Size of a Blue Whale? Bruhathkayosaurus matleyi

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  • Опубліковано 31 лип 2023
  • How big were dinosaurs? Were they bigger than blue whales? The biggest dinosaur may have been Bruhathkayosaurus matleyi, a huge titanosaur from India, according to a new study by Gregory S. Paul and Asier Larramendi. The two paleontologists analyzed dinosaur size limits to find out the answer to the question: how big were dinosaurs? When it comes to the comparison of “Dinosaurs vs blue whale” and “Dinosaurs vs mammals,” it can go either way. Blue whales are often cited as the biggest animals ever, but with this recent discovery about giant sauropods like Bruhathkayosaurus and Amphicoelias (now Maraapunisaurus) that may not be true. Dinosaurs the size of a blue whale could be more common than previously thought, with multiple sauropod species weighing well over 100 tonnes. But was it really possible that there were dinosaurs the size of a blue whale? Find out here on The Vividen!
    Paul & Larramendi 2023: www.idunn.no/doi/10.18261/let...
    Pal & Ayyasami 2022: onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/a...
    Bruhathkayosaurus art in thumbnail by Ansh Saxena
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  • @kkupsky6321
    @kkupsky6321 11 місяців тому +2170

    Et al is probably the greatest scientist of our time. His breadth of work shows. He’s on like every scientific paper… what an enigma

    • @bbpoisonn
      @bbpoisonn 11 місяців тому +75

      This happens like every few months just to go back to argentinosaurus again inevitably lol

    • @ImproveyourlifeYT
      @ImproveyourlifeYT 11 місяців тому +11

      @@bbpoisonn nope

    • @royjacksonjr.4447
      @royjacksonjr.4447 11 місяців тому +138

      And at his AGE! Et al has been around for a LONG time!

    • @kkupsky6321
      @kkupsky6321 11 місяців тому +73

      @@royjacksonjr.4447 I know. Al secrets right? I mean I’m sure he’s figured immortality. What a mind…

    • @arc7375
      @arc7375 11 місяців тому +54

      Et al is truly the greatest intellect on the face of the planet of all time. What a dedication to knowledge!

  • @ScionStorm1
    @ScionStorm1 11 місяців тому +2228

    *"Bruh, how thicc are you"-saurus* can't possibly be a real name. Which paleontologist decided to troll with this? Rescind their naming privileges.

    • @bonemarrow3439
      @bonemarrow3439 11 місяців тому +392

      "Bruhathkayosaurus", is derived from a combination of the Sanskrit word Bruhathkaya (bṛhat बृहत्, 'huge, heavy' and kāya, काय 'body')
      It's pronounced Bru-ha-th-ka-ya saurus

    • @scaper8
      @scaper8 11 місяців тому +240

      Holy shit, I didn't catch that! The fact that it's actually _not_ a troll pun makes it all the better!

    • @MichaeltheORIGINAL1
      @MichaeltheORIGINAL1 11 місяців тому +190

      @@bonemarrow3439 Meh, you broke the illusion. Let us have good things, man. :D ;)

    • @Rudol_Zeppili
      @Rudol_Zeppili 11 місяців тому +35

      @@MichaeltheORIGINAL1 I mean if you say ya instead of yo it still sounds like that lol

    • @gergopiroska5749
      @gergopiroska5749 11 місяців тому +32

      ​@@bonemarrow3439you just ruined the guy's joke
      Ya happy now?

  • @beastinfection638
    @beastinfection638 11 місяців тому +1121

    A 100+ tonne sauropod would be mind bogglingly awesome. Kinda hard to believe, but I really do hope that they existed. I would do anything to see a living sauropod of that size just roaming around.

    • @loowick4074
      @loowick4074 11 місяців тому +124

      They are perfectly capable of attaining those dimensions.
      The bottleneck would be food availability and evolutionary pressure.

    • @Texasmade74
      @Texasmade74 11 місяців тому +22

      Reality doesn't care about what you believe

    • @ZzbulletheadzZ
      @ZzbulletheadzZ 11 місяців тому +147

      @@Texasmade74 That goes both ways

    • @Texasmade74
      @Texasmade74 11 місяців тому +6

      @ZzbulletheadzZ of course but in your case or the op case it doesn't

    • @HerbivoreEnthusiast
      @HerbivoreEnthusiast 11 місяців тому +6

      Although blue whale is bigger

  • @cacogenicist
    @cacogenicist 11 місяців тому +727

    It just seems biomechanically and metabolically un-fuckin'-reasonable that there were land animals of that mass. Apparently true, but totally nuts.

    • @rafexrafexowski4754
      @rafexrafexowski4754 11 місяців тому +193

      That's exactly what people thought when they found the first sauropods. They were sure that they had to be semiaquatic because they couldn't reasonably exist (they didn't have good enough fossils to see that they had air sacks)

    • @tri-ify8852
      @tri-ify8852 11 місяців тому +10

      @@rafexrafexowski4754then why are there only animals that large in the ocean and not on land?

    • @YaBoiDREX
      @YaBoiDREX 11 місяців тому +157

      @@tri-ify8852Because Mammals don’t have pneumatic bones. Dinosaurs did.

    • @tri-ify8852
      @tri-ify8852 11 місяців тому +5

      @@YaBoiDREX doesn’t this just make their skeletons more brittle?

    • @YaBoiDREX
      @YaBoiDREX 11 місяців тому +134

      @@tri-ify8852 No. Not at those massive sizes at least. It basically functions like rebar does on concrete buildings providing tensile strength using a reinforcing bar

  • @seanledden4397
    @seanledden4397 11 місяців тому +286

    Thrilling to think about just how huge the sauropods were.

    • @antonironstag5085
      @antonironstag5085 5 місяців тому

      even more thrilling to think about what standing next to one must feel like. and if they made a sound, it would be felt in our bones

    • @user-rw4yi2xw5i
      @user-rw4yi2xw5i Місяць тому

      But more thrilling is that may biggest sauropods more likely titanosaurs like Lognkosaurian titanosaurs exceed biggest cetaceans including biggest blue whales ever.

  • @Mikailodon
    @Mikailodon 11 місяців тому +245

    I love sauropods, especially monstrously gigantic ones. They’re basically living mountains which makes them fascinating. Thanks for the great video.

    • @MonsterZilla452
      @MonsterZilla452 11 місяців тому +2

      This kiddo

    • @NotEnoughtInkYourSelf
      @NotEnoughtInkYourSelf 10 місяців тому +19

      ​@@MonsterZilla452shush you aint better, let him comment what he want you babbon

    • @jihunshin4864
      @jihunshin4864 10 місяців тому +1

      Now we have the new dinosaur killer of the T. rex. :)

    • @TenkiGaming
      @TenkiGaming 10 місяців тому +1

      I like ankylosauria

    • @justnoel4088
      @justnoel4088 8 місяців тому +3

      I just love that these dinos where at most times so large, they had NO natural predators

  • @Gandalf-The-Green
    @Gandalf-The-Green 11 місяців тому +106

    Paleontologist: "Hey, I found this huge bone of a sauropod, what should we name it?"
    Chief Paleontologist: "Bruh, have a care! This could easily fall on us and kill us!"

    • @manchungus3486
      @manchungus3486 10 місяців тому +2

      You win the internet for today.

    • @Mazed927
      @Mazed927 4 місяці тому +1

      on that note, dying due to blunt trauma from a sauropod femur -- namely, to be the first one to do so in 65,000,000 years -- has to come with some kind of special honor.

    • @hakimzaaba7782
      @hakimzaaba7782 21 день тому

      bruhathkayosaurus is bruh is bruh athkayasaurus and i call it BIG BRUH

  • @beastmaster0934
    @beastmaster0934 11 місяців тому +423

    Looks like Argentinosaurus might finally be dethroned once and for all.

    • @andrewgan557
      @andrewgan557 11 місяців тому +19

      But not for long.

    • @jeffreygao3956
      @jeffreygao3956 11 місяців тому +41

      Doubt it.

    • @ludovicschneider6190
      @ludovicschneider6190 11 місяців тому +101

      Until they base their estimates on another criteria or formula, or just stop imagining a whole dino based on half a bone.

    • @beastinfection638
      @beastinfection638 11 місяців тому +126

      @@ludovicschneider6190
      I agree with you there. I want 100+ tonne sauropods to be real as much as anyone else, but it's kinda hard to take these size estimates seriously when scientists are using a fragment of a leg bone or something to get those estimates.

    • @AgroAcro
      @AgroAcro 11 місяців тому +75

      ​​@@beastinfection638Considering Argentinasaurus was like 80 tons on average there almost certainly were some that reached 100 tons. Whether or not there was a species that was 100+ tons on average is the real question.

  • @wildlifeisthewealthofnatur5457
    @wildlifeisthewealthofnatur5457 11 місяців тому +84

    If Bruhathkayosaurus was really that big, it would create tremors while walking. It's also possible that there must had been some aquatic creature even heavier and bigger than Blue whale but noone can search for fossils in Oceans.

    • @royjacksonjr.4447
      @royjacksonjr.4447 11 місяців тому +44

      Many areas formerly underwater are now exposed and vice versa, due to technical shifts, climate change, and other factors. That's why we find Mosasaurs in Kansas, for instance. There may be larger animals-- land-based or aquatic-- that we haven't yet found, but the ocean is far from the only reason we haven't.

    • @prasanth2601
      @prasanth2601 10 місяців тому

      Very true

    • @anindohowlader8377
      @anindohowlader8377 9 місяців тому +2

      Peru cetus

    • @thureintun1687
      @thureintun1687 9 місяців тому +1

      ​@@royjacksonjr.4447you do know water eats up things right?

    • @Venkullix
      @Venkullix 7 місяців тому +1

      Was the Leviatan not larger than a blue whale?

  • @cro-magnoncarol4017
    @cro-magnoncarol4017 11 місяців тому +90

    Here's the kicker, Sauropods didn't just grow big for nothing they grew so large for predator defense. We see this with Argentinosaurus & Patagotitan who coexisted with mega theropods such as Giganotosaurus & Mapusaurus. Heck, even Barosaurus coexisted with a mega-theropod in the Morrison Formation with Saurophaganax at 10.5 meters. This is what I'm getting at here, to get the correct selection pressure for Bruhathkayosaurus to get so big & if it's proportions are correct there had to be a yet undiscovered Mega-Theropod at least 9 meters (But most likely much larger) running around Maastrichtian India.
    The only large Theropods known from Maastrichtian India are Abelisaurids so if the predictions are correct there was possibly a Disney's Dinosaur-like gigantic Abelisaurid roaming around India.

    • @joebrat6809
      @joebrat6809 10 місяців тому +15

      I have been saying that for years. Another Mega-sauropod (Puertasaurus) is from the same time period so I guess there could be at least two different mega abelisaurids, of like 40 feet or even bigger.

    • @cro-magnoncarol4017
      @cro-magnoncarol4017 10 місяців тому +14

      ​@@joebrat6809 We have found both Abelisaurids & Megaraptorians such as Pycnonemosaurus & Maip from around the same time that were pushing mega-theropod size.

    • @youtubealt243
      @youtubealt243 10 місяців тому +9

      It could also have been for access to higher trees. So either giant predators or giant trees

    • @cro-magnoncarol4017
      @cro-magnoncarol4017 10 місяців тому +9

      @@youtubealt243 Yeah, feeding competition could have helped.

    • @Tom_Quixote
      @Tom_Quixote 10 місяців тому +2

      I don't see how growing bigger would have protected them. That long neck seems awfully vulnerable. If you look at elephants for example, they are big but without exposed parts, and they have huge tusks to defend themselves with. These sauropods just look like giant porkchops on legs.

  • @matthewrussell4343
    @matthewrussell4343 11 місяців тому +31

    So theoretically speaking, Godzilla could exist, he'd just be a sauropod.

    • @xenon3990
      @xenon3990 10 місяців тому +5

      Yep. So earth at one point was ruled by Kaijus

    • @matthewrussell4343
      @matthewrussell4343 10 місяців тому +8

      @@xenon3990 Now I'm giggling at a sauropod that adapted to living in the ocean and somehow gained a mutation to produce an electric shock similar to that of electric eels. Imagine how powerful of an electric current something that big could produce.

    • @shivamgusain5185
      @shivamgusain5185 6 місяців тому +4

      ​@@matthewrussell4343electric eel produce damn storng current a dino with tue size that big will probably destroy cities if he wants.

    • @matthewrussell4343
      @matthewrussell4343 6 місяців тому +2

      @@shivamgusain5185 Would make for an awesome Kaiju movie

    • @Dexuz
      @Dexuz 3 місяці тому

      Ignoring its magical powers and 100,000 metric tons of mass? Sure.

  • @Compsognathus09
    @Compsognathus09 11 місяців тому +48

    Imagine being a poor theropod looking for a meal and that thing pulls up.
    Nice video

    • @mikeoxsmal69
      @mikeoxsmal69 11 місяців тому +5

      then a pack of devious carcharodontosauroids show up to the function

    • @wildlifeisthewealthofnatur5457
      @wildlifeisthewealthofnatur5457 11 місяців тому +13

      ​​@@mikeoxsmal69 Sorry to burst your bubble but a pack of Mapusaurus would stand no chance against something bigger than Argentinasaurus. Big packs of mega Carcharodontosaurids like Mapusaurus already didn't dare to directly attack adult Argentinasaurus but use to sneak on them only to tear bit of flesh. One wrong move can kill them because of a single tail slap or a stomp. The pack was said to usually Target infirm adults who cannot move and resist much and subadults. Even 5-6 T rex would get driven away like Elephants do to lions.

    • @mikeoxsmal69
      @mikeoxsmal69 11 місяців тому +1

      @wildlifeisthewealthofnatur5457 that's why I said bigger carcs that was kinda a vital point in my comment

  • @Blon_go_pop
    @Blon_go_pop 11 місяців тому +20

    Interviewer: so how big can sauropods get?
    That one dinosaur: Yes

  • @Leftatalbuquerque
    @Leftatalbuquerque 11 місяців тому +60

    The plant matter required to support herds of these, plus everything else, would be immense.

    • @ModestToast
      @ModestToast 11 місяців тому +41

      Walking deforestation animals

    • @Uncledavemeltzer
      @Uncledavemeltzer 10 місяців тому +5

      Giant trees were also common at that time

    • @nebunezz_r
      @nebunezz_r 10 місяців тому +9

      Mf deforest with better efficiency than illegal logger.

    • @bingus6952
      @bingus6952 10 місяців тому +4

      Deforestation machines

    • @havenless3551
      @havenless3551 9 місяців тому +5

      Megaflora to compensate for the megafauna

  • @Meme_tlg_69
    @Meme_tlg_69 10 місяців тому +13

    Imagine being so massive that people first thought your bones were trees

  • @Strawberrymilkdrink
    @Strawberrymilkdrink 11 місяців тому +24

    Whats gets me us that these would absolutely be ecosystem by themselves. The thought of some animal living and dieing on the backs of these creatures without ever touching the ground is fascinating is hell to me

    • @govardhanposina17
      @govardhanposina17 11 місяців тому +3

      Damn, never really considered that until now

    • @Sara3346
      @Sara3346 10 місяців тому +8

      Their internal parasites could have gotten pretty big too I'd think at least biomass wise.

    • @ChocolateMilk..
      @ChocolateMilk.. 3 місяці тому

      "Whats" is not a word.
      Is, not "us".
      *An ecosystem.
      Dying, not "dieing".
      *as hell.
      The amount of spelling and grammar mistakes you made, suggests that you ought to focus the little brain-capacity you have on learning how to write and speak. Don't worry about Sauropods.

  • @HoboBrute
    @HoboBrute 9 місяців тому +25

    Honestly, my hardest part of believing these size estimates comes down to how would you even go about feeding an animal that massive. Blue whales eat insane amounts of food, potentially upwards of 20 tons a day, if these things were to be even larger, what kind of terrestrial ecosystem could provide enough food for them, even if we were to assume they were also insanely calorie efficient

    • @aste4949
      @aste4949 7 місяців тому

      A question I have as well! Plankton-feeders cruise along with their mouths open...

    • @yourroyalhighness7662
      @yourroyalhighness7662 4 місяці тому

      Thats how I eat.

    • @zakaryloreto6526
      @zakaryloreto6526 4 місяці тому

      Also remember a blue whale is streamlined for eating. A truly massive head meanwhile sauropods have relatively small heads.

    • @yourroyalhighness7662
      @yourroyalhighness7662 4 місяці тому

      @@aste4949 Thats how I eat!

  • @Crembaw
    @Crembaw 10 місяців тому +13

    Considering Paul’s recent track record I’m unfortunately unconvinced.

  • @YukiZero
    @YukiZero 10 місяців тому +34

    how these things manage to walk and their bones not snapping or crumbling to the sheer weight is insane

  • @EBLazerRex
    @EBLazerRex 11 місяців тому +55

    I remember hearing about this sauropod back in the day, but I read that it was greatly oversized. Now, it seems to have been that big... 😅

    • @Macrochenia
      @Macrochenia 10 місяців тому +7

      Well, the issue is that all the claims about its size are based on a single badly-preserved bone that disintegrated shortly after it was dug up due to its poor condition so nobody's actually working with a skeleton of the animal, they're making guesses based on old photos and written descriptions so it's a question of was the bone actually as big as it was said to be and was it actually the bone it was described as and not a different bone that would have been larger relative to the animal's total size and was the animal as close in build to the smaller species that was used to estimate it's size based on the relative bone sizes... so there's actually a whole lot of guesses baked into the estimate.

    • @76rjackson
      @76rjackson 10 місяців тому

      ​@@MacrocheniaGreat comment. Ty

  • @nirudangaragoda5286
    @nirudangaragoda5286 10 місяців тому +69

    I remember reading Dougal Dixon's book about dinosaurs and coming across this dinosaur near the end of the book. Pretty wild that during those times Bruhathkayosaurus was listed as a nomen dubium, so it wasn't even clear if this was a dinosaur or something else. Now it's comfortably fighting for the title of the largest animal to ever walk the planet. I feel proud of my big boy.

  • @TheStrings-83639
    @TheStrings-83639 10 місяців тому +10

    The fact that a sauropod may be the closest creature to be a real-life kaiju.

  • @prismaticc_abyss
    @prismaticc_abyss 10 місяців тому +30

    I remember back when I was a child I was, as many of us were, obsessed with Dinosaurs and my favourite ones were sauropods. I was always fascinated at the prospect of what I was told at the time largest know dinosaur Brachiosaurus being 120+ tons. Later I read that these older predictions were likely way over estimate due to poor calculations at the time and that those beasts likely weight less than half that. Its amazing to see science coming full circle and now claiming to have evidence of 120++ ton animals again.

    • @Macrochenia
      @Macrochenia 10 місяців тому +2

      Every paleontologist wants to be the one who discovered the biggest dinosaur.

    • @darkonyx6995
      @darkonyx6995 10 місяців тому +1

      ​@@MacrocheniaNo, not really. You have no insighs in the study and research that goes to these papers.

    • @Macrochenia
      @Macrochenia 10 місяців тому +2

      @@darkonyx6995 Nobody goes into paleontology saying "I want my career to be forty years of cataloging specimens with no exciting finds."

    • @VinnieHndrx
      @VinnieHndrx 9 місяців тому +3

      @@darkonyx6995 Finding the biggest is certainly one of the top 3 dreams of a paleontologist. Hands down.. If u state otherwise YOU have zero insight...

    • @dplocksmith91
      @dplocksmith91 7 місяців тому +1

      ​@@Macrocheniaa dinosaur doesn't have to be huge to be fascinating. I personally like really weird dinos, such as Ambopterix, a relative of Archaeopterix that had wings more like those of a bat than those of a bird, or Irritator, the spinosaurid with two sails. My favorite is of course T. rex, but it has less to do with the fact that it was at one point the largest known land predator of all time and more to do with it being the Zord of the red Power Ranger XD

  • @Superkoolaid857
    @Superkoolaid857 11 місяців тому +328

    Very interesting, are we absolutely sure this dinosaur exists and its bones were not a tree trunk?

    • @TheVividen
      @TheVividen  11 місяців тому +251

      Speaking as part of the everybody-minus-a-handful that hasn't seen the bones, I can't 100% say anything. But Pal & Ayyasami seemed very confident in their redescription, and two more of the field's most respected paleontologists (Paul and Larramendi) agree with them. I'd say we can be pretty confident based on the opinions of the experts

    • @GenghisDon1970
      @GenghisDon1970 11 місяців тому +16

      NO...but we can be much more confident it never existed

    • @antonironstag5085
      @antonironstag5085 11 місяців тому

      ​@@GenghisDon1970you know you've reached peak retardation when you dismiss an entire field of paleoscience because trust me bro

    • @greg_the_llama5022
      @greg_the_llama5022 11 місяців тому +71

      ​@GenghisDon1970 see the response @TheVividen gave? Try to actually list your reasons.

    • @Boss-ot1iy
      @Boss-ot1iy 11 місяців тому

      ​@greg_the_llama5022 He doesn't have any, he's an idiot. It's funny that double digit iq people try to argue against what paleontologists have seen with their own eyes

  • @SurfbyShootin
    @SurfbyShootin 11 місяців тому +20

    I... I think i just stopped being a Blue whale supremacist, I'm in team sauropod now.

    • @thureintun1687
      @thureintun1687 9 місяців тому +1

      why is that?
      You ARE mammal bro! Don't be a traitor

  • @saxon3547
    @saxon3547 11 місяців тому +61

    Thanks so much for all the new dinosaur information! I can't wait to learn even more about them through watching your videos! You've just earned a new subscriber, my good man. Keep up the incredible work! :)

    • @TheVividen
      @TheVividen  11 місяців тому +12

      Thank you so much! Your comment just made my day!

    • @MRMOSATHEGAMER
      @MRMOSATHEGAMER 11 місяців тому

      @@TheVividen those estamites are bullcrap in my opinion

    • @gaganrajendra3980
      @gaganrajendra3980 4 місяці тому

      @@TheVividencopy paste his comment

    • @gaganrajendra3980
      @gaganrajendra3980 4 місяці тому

      i want to...

    • @user-rw4yi2xw5i
      @user-rw4yi2xw5i 19 днів тому

      ​@TheVividen hi,I'm can tell you one question and I m like your comment:If biggest sauropods can outsized the biggest mammals including whales,they should be Titanosaurs,but I m think that likely these guys will be titanosaurs

  • @bladehunter2747
    @bladehunter2747 10 місяців тому +11

    The thing is though, that most of the material on bruhathkayosaurus is either so degreded and unreliable that is isnt used, or the fact that most of the material and bones are straight up gone, and the stuff we have left cant really make a basis on what this things size was, if it existed at all

  • @niharg2011
    @niharg2011 11 місяців тому +41

    I wish these subjects and topics were properly funded and supported even as career by families, here in India, this country is so huge and so diverse even now, there is so much potential here like this video alone has Palaeoxodont and Bruhathkayosaurus both from India, I wish there was a scope for me to go down this career path when I was growing up, maybe some day I'll go back and get a degree in Paleontology when I am in my 30s, financially stable, maybe in my free time.

    • @govardhanposina17
      @govardhanposina17 11 місяців тому +14

      Agreed, India's unique geological history suggests a much more diverse paleontological history, sadly as you said we barely have the attention, resources or even protected land to actually find said diverse species

    • @anirudhmitra4232
      @anirudhmitra4232 10 місяців тому

      Most people don't even know paleontology in india . I was fascinated by dinosaurs as well , but due to restricted options for careers in india , i had to take engineering. Hope in future , this field get's proper funding and attention .

    • @guzmaneastman6569
      @guzmaneastman6569 4 місяці тому +1

      I hope your wish of becoming a Paleontologist comes true, and if you do remember this comment, please come tell me. I'll be rooting for you! Best of luck, friend.

    • @niharg2011
      @niharg2011 4 місяці тому +1

      @@guzmaneastman6569 Thanks a lot brother ❤️

  • @gusfring6887
    @gusfring6887 11 місяців тому +42

    Considering that individuals of extant giant animals such as elephants and whales can reach double the average size of the species, it is likely that the largest sauropod individuals could have been way larger than even the fossils show!

  • @chrisrandom1404
    @chrisrandom1404 11 місяців тому +18

    Awesome video, as always. If this is true it would potentially rewrite everything we now about dinosaur size limits. Makes you wonder what monsters roamed the Earth back then.

  • @joshuaW5621
    @joshuaW5621 11 місяців тому +20

    You’ve got me thinking a very interesting thought right here. Maybe there are larger sauropods out there that humans have yet to discover that could blow these records out of the air.
    Even if Bruhathkayosaurus really was the size of a blue whale, that would be so awesome.

  • @tyrannotherium7873
    @tyrannotherium7873 11 місяців тому +74

    That’s interesting that Jumbo the largest African elephant was 10 tons, which is the size of Scotty, the t. Rex and the Columbian mammoth and according to Dr. Kenneth lacovera the paleontologist who found dreadnoughtus it was 65 tons so that’s the size of 9 Rexis

    • @loowick4074
      @loowick4074 11 місяців тому +30

      Yeah but jumbo was a freakishly large elephant.
      It's like taking the great khali or Shaq as standard human sizes.
      T rex with a bit of growth imbalance and taken care of humans would probably grow pretty big compared to the standard fossilised t rex.

    • @tyrannotherium7873
      @tyrannotherium7873 11 місяців тому

      I wonder if jumbo was a captive elephant maybe that could explained it

    • @Tyrannosaurus_rex.
      @Tyrannosaurus_rex. 11 місяців тому

      It was 10 tonnes actually

    • @hafizurrahman1006
      @hafizurrahman1006 11 місяців тому +2

      Biggest confirmed African elephant was 7 tonnes

    • @hafizurrahman1006
      @hafizurrahman1006 11 місяців тому +4

      Average African elephants are Tarbosaurus sized or 5.4 tonnes

  • @ZeFroz3n0ne907
    @ZeFroz3n0ne907 11 місяців тому +8

    Way cool, never heard of this one before. Very well done! Got my sub!

  • @5ives_the_penguin
    @5ives_the_penguin 11 місяців тому +16

    I am here to confirm that this is definitely one of natures bruh moments

  • @finalaleks.6663
    @finalaleks.6663 Місяць тому

    Lured me in with what seemed to be cheap clickbait, immediately disarmed my uncertainty and cut straight to the chase. Instant sub.

  • @patricklee5239
    @patricklee5239 10 місяців тому +7

    7:14 nice to see the Broome titanosaur getting a mention in the literature again. i remember when that thing was the talk of the town as one of the mystery giant dinosaurs.

    • @TheVividen
      @TheVividen  10 місяців тому +4

      I had forgotten about it until Paul & Larramendi mentioned it again. It's been quite some time.

  • @ToaArcan
    @ToaArcan 11 місяців тому +12

    Fascinating stuff, though I'd heard that BYU 9024 had been reassigned to Supersaurus rather than Barosaurus now.

    • @isaacslein6432
      @isaacslein6432 11 місяців тому +9

      So have I, and that's why Supersaurus returned to the near 40m long range

  • @brianmoran1196
    @brianmoran1196 10 місяців тому +5

    Its much easier to be big in the ocean as the body is neutrally buoyant . The sauropods were far stronger holding their weight up on land.

  • @dreamweav3r367
    @dreamweav3r367 10 місяців тому +1

    Nice video, Like your production quality and pace.

  • @HezrouDhiaga
    @HezrouDhiaga 10 місяців тому +7

    The fact Bruh is in the name of this dino just makes it infinitely more hilarious

  • @tubetube7025
    @tubetube7025 11 місяців тому +10

    OH LAWD HE COMIN

  • @rayzuke1232
    @rayzuke1232 10 місяців тому +5

    You know what is crazy? With how rare fossils actually are and the massive timeframe before our current Era it wouldn't be to far Fetched that there was a Animal so gigantic that it would start dwarfing the Blue whale. If there was some variant of a colossal squid in pre-historic times that opted to use a more tissue based maw instead of the typical hardened beak we would have no idea about their existence as it would be virtually impossible to find remains of them.

  • @Alberad08
    @Alberad08 11 місяців тому +2

    Just: wow! Thanks a lot for providing these!

  • @wyattgoralski818
    @wyattgoralski818 10 місяців тому +1

    Incredibly informative and mind-blowing video, man.

  • @Davros539
    @Davros539 11 місяців тому +15

    I would like to know more on Sauropods inhabiting cold climates, since I read they actually never did and were in fact the only major clade of dinosaurs not to (at least according to Chiarenza et al. in their study "Climatic constraints on the biogeographic history of Mesozoic dinosaurs").

    • @SD-wj9bv
      @SD-wj9bv 11 місяців тому +1

      Maybe they were the only few dinosaurs to be cold-blooded are low body temp?

    • @Davros539
      @Davros539 11 місяців тому +1

      @@SD-wj9bv Perhaps, I'd like to see a possible example.

    • @charchadonto
      @charchadonto 10 місяців тому +5

      The most likely reason is colder climates tend to have either lower food availability, either through sparser vegetation or abundant but tough vegetation that is more difficult to process.
      Sauropods have weak jaws ment for maximum food intake, while other clades posses chewing jaws or sharp beaks to process their food to at least some degree.

    • @Davros539
      @Davros539 10 місяців тому

      @@charchadonto yeah that makes sense.

  • @jeffreygao3956
    @jeffreygao3956 11 місяців тому +12

    Here I was thinking Bruhathkayosaurus was just a tree.

    • @eliletts8149
      @eliletts8149 11 місяців тому +9

      Yeah, their was an analysis released not too long ago that came to that conclusion as well.

    • @user-rw4yi2xw5i
      @user-rw4yi2xw5i 17 днів тому

      ​@eliletts8149 I'm can ask you one thing:only 0,1 or less of all extinct living organisms includes animals like titans among titanosaurs are fossilized,very possible if not probably that biggest extinct species exceed and outsize the biggest extant organisms

  • @MichZilla90
    @MichZilla90 10 місяців тому +1

    This is the first time I have subscribed on the first video of a channel I watch. I’m a massive dinosaur nerd and seeing people finally admit the biggest sauropods might have out massed blue whales and the fact we probably have not discovered the biggest dinosaurs yet feels amazing. Plus the sprinkled humor makes if better to watch over all, love these type of videos.

    • @TheVividen
      @TheVividen  10 місяців тому +1

      Thank you! I'm really glad you enjoyed it!

    • @MichZilla90
      @MichZilla90 10 місяців тому +1

      @@TheVividenheck yeah and also checking out your older videos I see stuff on Godzilla, Jurassic, lord of the rings, and Warcraft. So I’m even happier I found your channel now lol. Btw the audio in this video is lots better than older ones, so whatever change you made definitely keep

    • @TheVividen
      @TheVividen  10 місяців тому +1

      @@MichZilla90 Haha I'm glad! And yes, I have a much better microphone now and I'm planning on getting a Yeti to take the audio to the next level soon. Welcome to the channel!

    • @MichZilla90
      @MichZilla90 10 місяців тому

      @@TheVividenthanks and awesome can’t wait to see more

  • @johnquintmatt1986
    @johnquintmatt1986 11 місяців тому +7

    Since When I was old enough to read back in the early 90s I knew it in my heart then that dinosaurs could get bigger than blue whales. It's beautiful. Dinosaurs rule!

  • @bacawaka2813
    @bacawaka2813 9 місяців тому +4

    The evolutionary adaptation to grow so tall is amazing. I really want to know how big and lush the vegetation was back then.

  • @joebrat6809
    @joebrat6809 10 місяців тому +7

    That vertebra has now been assigned to Supersaurus apparently, but the size is pretty much accurate still I think.

  • @DinoFan1993
    @DinoFan1993 11 місяців тому +1

    Your content is very interesting man, I love it!

  • @sleepysmt
    @sleepysmt 11 місяців тому +2

    what a bizarrely timed video, considering the discovery of perucetus colossus being announced less than a day later

  • @ifti1311
    @ifti1311 10 місяців тому +4

    I have only two words from this video. Good God.
    What would be really funny if imagine somewhere, unfound, there was a Sauropod that matched the upper boundary of the weight of the newly described Perucetus....

  • @Commander_Appo
    @Commander_Appo 11 місяців тому +7

    Potentially bigger than a blue whale? Damn, now the only thing we mammals have going for us is intelligence

    • @user-rw4yi2xw5i
      @user-rw4yi2xw5i 17 днів тому

      Potentially biggest likely titanosaurs are heavier than any cetacean

  • @Cope_Paleontology
    @Cope_Paleontology 11 місяців тому

    The dinosaur sound you put in your intro 0:17 looks amazing

  • @joemcduck2748
    @joemcduck2748 10 місяців тому +1

    This is so cool! I am completely mesmerized by all of this!

  • @murderlander_6224
    @murderlander_6224 10 місяців тому +3

    Damn, as I can correctly remember few years ago there was a statement that max weight for land animal was 50 tonnes, and now we returning to 1990-2000's where dinosaurus were extremely large

  • @mthokozisindlovu2079
    @mthokozisindlovu2079 10 місяців тому +7

    Calculating the size of dinosaurs based on bone fragments can result in estimation error since different animals have different proportions.

    • @sattm8230
      @sattm8230 7 місяців тому +3

      It's extremely questionable science. As much of paleontology is.

  • @TitanoWf
    @TitanoWf 11 місяців тому +9

    A real life kaiju

  • @guanabana7760
    @guanabana7760 11 місяців тому +1

    Finally, this animal is getting some new found representation. I found out about this creature a few years a go but only know is the first Time I have seen a video on it.

  • @nicholashaan7345
    @nicholashaan7345 11 місяців тому +6

    Taking this with a grain of salt. Until we have more substantial remains, I'm not gonna hold my breath for the current records to be broken.

    • @AgroAcro
      @AgroAcro 11 місяців тому +7

      With this you should probably be taking it with a whole salt shaker.

    • @nicholashaan7345
      @nicholashaan7345 11 місяців тому

      @@AgroAcro Ohh yes, my friend, yes indeed. Neat username btw.

    • @AgroAcro
      @AgroAcro 11 місяців тому

      @@nicholashaan7345 Thanks!

  • @Ozraptor4
    @Ozraptor4 11 місяців тому +3

    Note that Brian Curtice has recently argued that BYU 9024 belongs to the Supersaurus vivianae holotype (as was originally assigned by Jensen)

  • @jamesaron1967
    @jamesaron1967 11 місяців тому

    Very comprehensive, thank you.

  • @AceofDlamonds
    @AceofDlamonds 10 місяців тому +1

    Wow very informative. I was about to knee-jerk quote older material but you hit me with 2023 research!

  • @christosvoskresye
    @christosvoskresye 11 місяців тому +6

    If you need a new name for the sauropod, I suggest Bruhontosaurus.

  • @pux0rb
    @pux0rb 10 місяців тому +10

    I'd love to be wrong, but it just completely boggles my mind that any animal on land, where it's significantly harder to be large, could weigh any more than like 90 tonnes. This new information is extremely interesting to me. Imagining an animal approaching 200 tonnes walking over land is just insane, something you'd only think possible in fiction, and yet its apparently within the realm of possibility, is melting my brain. I think I have a rebounding interest in sauropods again.

  • @taklacmaymn4587
    @taklacmaymn4587 11 місяців тому

    Good video as always dude.

  • @Menzobarrenza
    @Menzobarrenza 8 місяців тому

    This is super inspiring and useful for my worldbuilding project. Thanks for including the likely explanation for how this is possible!

  • @rikospostmodernlife
    @rikospostmodernlife 11 місяців тому +3

    6:42 british men measuring themselves in stones:

  • @vippsmillennial6336
    @vippsmillennial6336 9 місяців тому +3

    What if sauropods were partially aquatic, like modern-day hippos. Coz, how's such a huge animal be able to move on land. It'd be really difficult, right?

  • @mrinalinisunkanapally7198
    @mrinalinisunkanapally7198 2 місяці тому

    Vividen videos are always amazing, How he does so much research is beyond me.

  • @MonsterZilla452
    @MonsterZilla452 11 місяців тому +2

    Every biggest animals got changed in this year.
    1. Biggest land animal now- Bruhatkayosaurus & previous- Argentinosaurus.
    2. Biggest land carnivore now- Giganotosaurus & previous-Tyrannosaurus.
    3. Biggest animal is the history
    now-Perucetus Collosus & previous- Blue Whale.
    4. Biggest aquatic carnivore
    now - Megalodon & previous- Sperm Whale.
    5. Biggest carnivorous land mammal now-Megistotherium & previous- Arctodus simus
    6. Biggest snake in the history now - Paleophis & previous- Titanoboa

    • @MonsterZilla452
      @MonsterZilla452 11 місяців тому +2

      Edit: Percetus Collosus got downsized to 68 tonnes.
      Biggest creature remains Blue Whale

    • @usmanya5110
      @usmanya5110 11 місяців тому +2

      wait is there evidence that Giganotosaurus already outsized T-Rex now? i thought T rex was still the largest land carnivore at 9-10 something tonnes.

    • @thuikippl5034
      @thuikippl5034 9 місяців тому

      No evidence suggests Giganotosaurus was bigger than T Rex, in fact quite the contrary, Bruhathkayosaurus is also far too fragmentary for you to make an assertion like that lmao

    • @swastikayanghosh160
      @swastikayanghosh160 2 місяці тому

      Now it is vasuki indicus

    • @MonsterZilla452
      @MonsterZilla452 2 місяці тому

      @@swastikayanghosh160 Vasuki Naag hai bachche

  • @Predation_records
    @Predation_records 11 місяців тому +3

    Do a video about Perucetus colossus

  • @PMW3
    @PMW3 11 місяців тому +5

    kind of stinks how we only have such fragmentary remains of these amazing creatures. It would be a hell of a lot easier to estimate the size and mass of the being if we had more than a couple of leg bones.

    • @Sara3346
      @Sara3346 10 місяців тому

      I mean once they died in anything but the fastest burying environments there would be a I think a ....great deal of biological completion to claim such resources.
      Including their bones.

    • @ChocolateMilk..
      @ChocolateMilk.. 6 місяців тому

      Makes you question whether they existed in the form stated at all.

  • @janneplanman6433
    @janneplanman6433 11 місяців тому

    Awesome animals 😮And great video 🔥💜🇫🇮 Thank you for this🥂

  • @kaiserbrutus730
    @kaiserbrutus730 7 місяців тому +2

    20 years later: Sauropod the size of a skyscraper exists...

    • @user-rw4yi2xw5i
      @user-rw4yi2xw5i 22 дні тому

      You mean be by weight,if answer is yes,it should be lived in alternative reality where biomass is bigger than any number ever,while artificial mass have strong limits

  • @zeno4538
    @zeno4538 11 місяців тому +3

    This is the beginning of a paradigm shift

  • @Moray2023
    @Moray2023 11 місяців тому +5

    I don't see that it would be impossible for a sauropod such as this one to suffer a similar condition that Andre the Giant did. If it works the same way, and lives until it's fully grown, i see no reason why it couldn't get that big.
    However, you could also use the same logic on a blue whale which would move the goal post again.

    • @miskakopperoinen8408
      @miskakopperoinen8408 10 місяців тому +1

      While it is possible that the remains are of an anomalous individual, that is a supposition that one should be careful of. Generally it's safer to rely on the mediocrity principle, IE: while observing something with a very limited sample size, it's usually safer to assume that the object in question is generally more descriptive of average proportions rather than rare extremes in any category.

  • @raymoonstar13
    @raymoonstar13 10 місяців тому +2

    Funny how maraapunisaurus doesn't change size all that much after the "nerf"

  • @liambuchan
    @liambuchan 7 місяців тому

    thanks for the in-depth video :)

  • @jensphiliphohmann1876
    @jensphiliphohmann1876 11 місяців тому +5

    I always thought that any land animal might outlength a large marine animal like the blue whale but not outweigh it, since it has to support its weight in air.

    • @zrakonthekrakon494
      @zrakonthekrakon494 11 місяців тому +9

      There may be extinct marine organisms larger than blue whale, we’re just working off of the records we have access too

    • @eljanrimsa5843
      @eljanrimsa5843 11 місяців тому +1

      @@zrakonthekrakon494 we now have Perucetus with an upper estimate of double the size of blue whale/Bruhathkatyosaurus, but it kind of reinforces the point: We find coastal dwellers with massive bones, because we can't dig up the deep ocean floor and giant squids and sharks don't make good fossils

  • @thephenom724
    @thephenom724 11 місяців тому +8

    I shudder to imagine the nightmarish theropod that actually hunts this thing

    • @TheRandomWolf
      @TheRandomWolf 11 місяців тому +4

      Wouldn’t hunt the adults

    • @mikeoxsmal69
      @mikeoxsmal69 11 місяців тому +8

      idk big carcar brudda or smt. it would be a bit much to grow to such sizes just for one food source. and even if said carc was huge it would still be an extremely dangerous hunt

    • @countchompula1896
      @countchompula1896 11 місяців тому +4

      You mean *theropods* as in plural. Nothing is 1v1ing that thing.

    • @thuikippl5034
      @thuikippl5034 9 місяців тому

      ​@@mikeoxsmal69wouldn't be, Carcharodontosaurids were long extinct by the Maastrichtian

    • @mikeoxsmal69
      @mikeoxsmal69 9 місяців тому +1

      @@thuikippl5034 whomp, just an imitator I suppose. Point still stands however considering I was thinking of a fake big boy

  • @dragonfox2.058
    @dragonfox2.058 11 місяців тому +1

    terribly cool info

  • @ishitapaul5594
    @ishitapaul5594 5 місяців тому

    I love it that they included the calvin & hobbes strip, i once actually googled whether a calvinosaurus-sized theropod has been found irl 🤦‍♀️

  • @jislh9453
    @jislh9453 11 місяців тому +5

    In the last video you said that in a 2022 study on theropod bite forces you said that the T. rex they used was Stan but i think it was sue because the skull width was 900 mm similar to sue skull width

    • @TheVividen
      @TheVividen  11 місяців тому +8

      It totally could have been! That may have been a script error

    • @Apexzious
      @Apexzious 11 місяців тому +4

      Actually it was indeed Stan, someone asked a similar question on twitter and the author (Manabu Sakamoto) stated it was Stan BHI 3033 in the bite force study. I thought it was Sue too at first, so I recommended that part to be changed in the script.

    • @jislh9453
      @jislh9453 11 місяців тому

      really ?

    • @ferociousrazordino3581
      @ferociousrazordino3581 11 місяців тому +1

      Sue's skull width is a bit higher than that, 945 mm

    • @jislh9453
      @jislh9453 11 місяців тому +1

      Really ? According to a 2017 T. rex bite force study it was stated the the skull width of sue was 902 mm wide

  • @AidanMartin
    @AidanMartin 11 місяців тому +13

    Ichthyosaur that was longer than both megalodon and livayatan to now this man yah content been on fiya mode lately

    • @TheVividen
      @TheVividen  11 місяців тому +5

      Paleontology has been on fire! I'm just one of the messengers

    • @AidanMartin
      @AidanMartin 11 місяців тому +2

      @@TheVividen no other way to explain otherwise

    • @TheVividen
      @TheVividen  11 місяців тому +2

      True true@@AidanMartin

    • @youlaughyouphill842
      @youlaughyouphill842 11 місяців тому

      @@TheVividenthis is the animal you hinted at in the last episode, right?

    • @TheVividen
      @TheVividen  11 місяців тому +1

      @@youlaughyouphill842 Actually, no! That one is an aquatic predator...

  • @kuitaranheatmorus9932
    @kuitaranheatmorus9932 11 місяців тому

    This video was just so good and I love it

  • @76rjackson
    @76rjackson 10 місяців тому

    Something back then really favored that big body plan with the long neck. Stuff just kept evolving into sauropds.

  • @sarban1653
    @sarban1653 11 місяців тому +3

    "Bruhathkayosaurus matleyi is the size of the blue whale". Bruh indeed.

  • @suricata1993
    @suricata1993 11 місяців тому +3

    hm.... very doubtful! Sooooo..
    Lets look at some other examples:
    if we had the issues we had with Spinosaurus (from a 17m bidepal to a 14m 4 legged, and thi was with way more data than these so called top 3 sauropods on this video) or even with giganotosaurus (some sources were as far as 16m long, once again, with way more data), its pretty unlikely that this top 3 sauropods are actually that big.
    Also side note for the BUY vertebra, the sizes estimatives are very very similar to supersaurus, and according to new studies, Supersaurus were massively long, with necks over 15m and max lengths around 42m. So there is a chance is not even a barosaurus...
    Anyways, althought i do believe there is a big chance of bigger sauropods out there, we all should be cautious about any of these estimatives.. Amphicoelias was a diplodocus with 200t and 60m and now is a rebachisaurus, based on a single bone that actually doenst exist or was bombed on WW2 or whatever happened to it... just saying, the room for errors is absolutely massive there.

  • @aleksamrkela831
    @aleksamrkela831 10 місяців тому

    The pun in the title card alone makes this worth watching. :)

  • @sharkchaos5160
    @sharkchaos5160 10 місяців тому

    Great video.

  • @jaisanatanrashtra7035
    @jaisanatanrashtra7035 11 місяців тому +3

    From My Country 😎💕🇮🇳 Bharat

  • @ego4551
    @ego4551 11 місяців тому +3

    The Problem with the Bruhathkayosaurus matleyi size is that the scaling was done based on the hammer inside the picture. The Hammer size itself is very questionable. Hence a big yikes for from me.
    Maraapunisaurus size is also very dubious. A redescription didn't change that as it's still based on the same drawing which is from the time of a giant dick measuring contest.
    As you already pointed out Barosaurus Lentus depends on the placement. Eliminating the other two sauropods because how questionable they are, the upper estimates becomes huge outliers itself. The lower ones aren't outliers and don't break any new grounds.

    Then there is another issue I have with Paul. He's also been downplaying the size of certain Marine Reptiles a lot recently. He did it again in this very paper.
    He dismisses multiple estimates of fragmentary remains of large Ichtyosaur such as S. Sikanensis, despite them being much better supported than what he is doing here. FFS even S. Popularis of which we have many more complete examples has the lower estimates of 17 tonnes up to almost 30 tonnes. "not much larger than 15 tonnes" my ass.

  • @SomeKindOfDodo
    @SomeKindOfDodo 3 місяці тому +2

    When you outgrow your predators so hard that nature has to throw with meteorites to nerf you

  • @rsuriyop
    @rsuriyop 11 місяців тому +1

    I'd be thoroughly surprised if there were any other dinosaurs out there even bigger than Argentinosaurus.

  • @shallowbluewater3458
    @shallowbluewater3458 10 місяців тому +6

    Regarding how sauropods could routinely reach these absurd monstrous sizes, I have only 1 thing to say:
    Hollow bones, air sacs and unidirectional lungs are OP, man.

    • @charchadonto
      @charchadonto 10 місяців тому +3

      dont forget being designed as a vacuum cleaner for food, no heavy jaws and musscles for biting or chewing your food? maximum food intake all day

    • @jayeshrahulkovi9738
      @jayeshrahulkovi9738 10 місяців тому

      What is a unidirectional lungs ?

    • @jayeshrahulkovi9738
      @jayeshrahulkovi9738 10 місяців тому

      ​@@charchadontowait they just swallow ?

    • @charchadonto
      @charchadonto 10 місяців тому +2

      @@jayeshrahulkovi9738 it means the air only passes one way through the lungs.
      Unlike mammals birds and dinosaurs do not inflate their lungs to take in air and oxygen, instead the lungs are connected to airsacs in front and behind them, which take the job of inflating and deflating. And when the front inflate the back ones deflate and vice versa
      As a result, the lungs extract oxygen from the air being circulated not only on the inhale like mammals, but also on the exhale. Making for a much more efficient breathing system.
      It for example allows Asian Geese to fly over mount Everest at 10km up, while humans require oxygen support at those heights.

    • @charchadonto
      @charchadonto 10 місяців тому +1

      @@jayeshrahulkovi9738 Yes, they basically just used their teeth as rakes and strippers to eat vegetation.
      However to help them process the plant matter they did swallow stones that stayed in their stomach, and those would help them grind down plant matter together with the stomach action. When the stones become to smooth they regurtitate them and eat new ones.

  • @brandonhussey5017
    @brandonhussey5017 11 місяців тому +4

    While I don’t disagree with the idea that we may not have found the largest sauropods, we need to be careful with that line of thinking because that’s exactly how we got the bonkers-massive liopleurodon in walking with dinosaurs

  • @rayhanmustakim7073
    @rayhanmustakim7073 11 місяців тому +1

    I now petition that from now on we use the Rock as a measurement unit to calculate how much weight an organism could be.

  • @robrice7246
    @robrice7246 11 місяців тому +1

    Do any of the recent articles talk about the sauropod's original location (in terms of coordinates)?
    In case paleontologists need to partake in future excavations.

    • @eybaza6018
      @eybaza6018 11 місяців тому

      The potential sister group to Sauropoda Lessemsauridae first appeared in South America,but as besides footprints from Greenland there's no deffinite Sauropod remains from the Triassic and earliest Jurassic,so it's hard to tell however given that Pangaea was just starting to break apart they could have evolved simontaneously on several modern continents.