Mike Rowe: Stop pushing kids into an education they can't afford
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- Опубліковано 20 вер 2024
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As a vocational educator, I'm so glad that Mr. Rowe is using his platform to promote the truth and encourage young people to skilled labor and the trades.
When in H.S. I attended the end of the term interview with my Counselor. During that session I expressed an interest in some classes over in the Vocational Ed building. By the time I got home my Father had been contacted by the Counselor and told my educational goal was to be a juvenile delinquent.
Thank you for teaching vocational education. I had it in high school, learned alot of different skills that helped me in life. Thank you.
I so much agree....
Welders can provide themselves a very comfortable and very well lived lifestyle
Not where I'm at lol. Its like $10/hr here. Electrician is where its at
@@ruhruhruhruhruheisjsij Thats right. Welders make about the same pay as walmart or McDonald's. Sure you can do your time with a company and make 25 hr, but by them you've compromised your health. Do your time at walmar instead, and become salaried. You get to work in the AC, and not breath in weld fumes all day and red oxide. Electrician is definitely alot better, and cleaner. Welding is ok if you're self employed, which is what I am.
@@weldmin4818 ^ this guy gets it
Amen,, Not All kids are going to Regular University, or can Afford it. Welders, electricians, plumbers, Manufacturers, Management, etc. Make a Great living with Great benefits.. thanks again
The best steppingstone is vocational schools prior to College. I never had anything other training except vocational training. I never went to college. I am making 90000 plus a year in construction
and don't need someone to pay back my schooling fee's
I love this guy's movement.... America needs to work. Ppl want to work... They need to push and motivate ppl to work.
Love this.
Not for 15$
20 years in front of a desk and now I’m back out using the carpentry skills I developed while going to (and paying for) for college. Building homes is so much more satisfying than building web sites. Thanks for speaking up for the skilled workers, Mike.
I never realized how much I love Mike Rowe
Just sent this to my 19 year old daughter who told me she's thinking of taking a semester off from college. (She's working at one of the "big box stores" and paying for college on HER OWN!) Thank you, Mike!!! Keep up the great encouragement!! ❤️🇺🇸❤️🇺🇸❤️🇺🇸❤️
I talk to younger people who are trapped in minimum wage jobs. As they get older and their families grow these are the folks demanding a "livable wage". They should be told to get into apprenticeships so they have a career ladder. Plumbers, electrician, etc. all have apprenticeships. It's never too late.
Join the Military as well. Its not for everybody but some technical trades in the Military lead to very promising careers,
@@lawrenceleverton7426 Good point!
It needs to come from the government. Eliminate No Child Left Behind. Eliminate the idea the every child has to be college ready
@@lawrenceleverton7426 For sure. The military pays their tradesman alot better than the private sector, but its like that with all government jobs. They can pay better because we all pay them with our taxes.
My sons Justice Brent and Brandon are welders and mechanics! No college for them and they are successful and debt free at 22 years of age.
Both my sons have genius IQ's, were in gifted programs in CA schools, and they were extremely bored. one went on to become a RN specializing in neuro surgical care and a stroke coordinator. He worked while attending nursing school, top in his class and no student loans.The other started Machining while in high school and now is working in a leading worldwide manufacuring Co, still machining and teaching others to become master machinists. He has been offered a free ride to become a mechanical engineer but would not be happy because he has so much pride in his "dirty job."
Nan Cal,
As they say........... Cream rises to the top.
Be Proud, Not many parents can say they gave valuable ethics skills to promote their children's future.
Back in freshman year of high school (1996), I spoke with my guidance counselor and expressed how I wanted to work in tech ed [drafting, machine shop, printing]. She told me that only idiots and remedial students work in those fields. I told my father, a tech ed teacher of 37 years experience, and he filed a complaint how distorted a view she had. Nevertheless, my high school pushed classes like these out of the school to make way for standardize testing. I had honors courses shoved down my throat for no good reason.
This is all to say that my path was career path was altered. I could have been enjoyed that sparkle of getting my hands dirty making things I could be proud of. Now, I have to walk a path that is dependent on paying down $150K in student debt. I hope more kids turn towards trade jobs for a more fulfilling life.
There is a misconception that because a particular skill involves some degree of manual labor, that it cannot also involve intellect.
Yup, if i had to guess, 90% of Americans couldn't figure out how to use 100% of a circular saws functions.
The country badly needs skilled tradesmen and women! Student loans are an anchor around the neck of graduates. The icing on the cake is that these tradespeople can also start their own business with their skills!
My nephew didn't go to college. He enlisted in the Coast Guard and became an Electricians Mate. He is now an electrician and is making beaucoup $. He is proof of Mike Rowe's story! 😊
Smart.
I just got a 7k quote from an electrician for a job that will take about 2 days. I work at a university and see first hand how these kids don’t have common street sense.
How fortunate we are to have Mike Rowe and people like him to say the REALLY IMPORTANT STUFF.
How fortunate America is to have people step up and come forward when we need them most.
*America, we are going to be ok.*
I went to a Vocational school 1965 1969 for HVAC did this for 49 years retired 4 years from Hershey Chololate Co. I owe nothing to anyone and do anything I want nice feeling to have the money to do it .Trades work 💪
Not only fun to watch your "dirty jobs" series, but really admire your continuing support of young people to get into the need of hands on trades workers. You are an American hero sir. Thank you for all that you do!!!!
For years people have been stigmatizing people who literally get their HANDS DIRTY for a living! Just another reason why people don't want those jobs.
Years ago our schools in Britain, had different programs for children to have a taste of cookery, woodwork, metalwork etc not all children are born academic, some are artistic . The reason that children are pushed into college is the college's make hand over fist in money. Shame
America was built on hard work and self respect...nothing wrong with that.
I’m 22. Ever since 2019, I have been waking up from the brainwashing the school system gave me all those years. The more I learn about how evil this system is, I hate it. If I could, I would sue the school system nonstop until all parents, including mine, get back their money. They, the elites, are the reason I am burnt out and lost interest in studying. All this nonstop stress from so much homework and so many tests and quizzes has made today’s youth a bunch of mindless robots who don’t want to spend time with anyone, not even their own families! Taught what to think, but not how to think. It’s not the phone. It’s not because students are lazy incompetents. It’s YOU, the selfish and greedy elites who steal so much creativity and personality out of everyone from day one!
Its you for letting them brainwash your azz. Sorry I was so blunt. But its never to late to change course. You can blame all you want but in the end... He who does not work... does not eat.
Bravo! It is comforting to know there are relatively young adults, like yourself, who live in truth and have the courage to confront the absurdity. I suspect you will do well.
@@sandilou2U Thank you! Hopefully, I will do well. These last three years have been rough for me, but I am finally moving into my season of change, just like God wants me to do so and I am excited to start this new chapter in my life! It’s always beautiful when God wins.
@@lawrenceleverton7426 I know I am not innocent either. It’s my fault for not realizing it sooner.
Traitor trump's accomplishments: first president to attempt to overturn a lawful election, first president to serve one term in three decades, first president to lose the popular vote twice in over two centuries, first president to be impeached twice, first president to incite an insurrection in the US Capitol, first US president in history not to have the supporter of the US military (by Gen. Milley's heroic actions), historians have named traitor trump as the FOURTH worst president in US history, traitor trump is the only POTUS not to see 50% approval rating.
We need skilled labors not career students. We do need engineering,math and science. Not basket weaving 101.
Basket weaving？
I wish I knew how to basket weave. It's actually still a valuable skill.
i remember one of the schools i went to growing up had a full cnc machine shop, and they never let the kids use it. it just sat there collecting dust, occasionally being used by a member of the faculty to make things used in class, or more frequently for a personal project. your tax dollars at work. instead of letting kids explore vocational possibilities, they convince kids to chase after fantasy jobs that are either very rare or dont actually exist.
This movement is finally picking up steam, thanks to MIKE ROWE!
Amen. Mike needs to be in charge of the Dept of Labor.
Mike Rowe for president. Lets get this going.
U got that right
As a high school educated person I also had 2 careers one one as a architecture woodworking finisher and an railroad signal man were I learned electrical and mechanical equipment. I spent 20 years in both professions and could not have learned either of them by going to college, and believe me when I say 6 figures is not out of the question, it just all depends on how hard you want to work.
When education cut out the occupational skills from school, it was a major mistake.
I have an MSEE. yet I am just as proud of knowing how to use a mill, lathe, and an acetylene torch.
No if government would stop subsidizing education the price would fall dramatically.
The problem is the educators don’t ask the students what there interested in instead they tell them what they think they would be good at .
Mike is my hero! I like everything he has to say.
As a retired teacher, I agree with Mike. Not everyone should go to college
There is such a tremendous, desperate need for skilled trades in our area that high schools are bringing back trade courses and businesses have their own curriculum. Skills are were the money and benefits are today.
Too many thinkers and not enough tinkerer's these days.
Mike Rowe the hardest working man in USA
we need more trade schools
I work skilled labor and trades and sometimes at the start of the work day I look ahead and get overwhelmed with the monumental task ahead and then I am reminded that there is an army of us and it always gets done on time. I am just glad to have a job that I love. (HVAC/R)
In the early 1990's in Australia we had a lefty government and a recession. The government decided that university was not just for the academic and that everyone deserves a degree ( no matter how useless).
Trades were discouraged largely because apprenticeships were hard to come by so they created numerous useless degrees and kept young people busy instead of being unemployed.
From then on we had too many uni graduates with useless degrees as well as debt plus a lack of trades.
The left wanted everyone to have a degree and feel special which devalued a university education.
Do a trade, start a business, work hard and forget about wasting your time and money in college.
My father, a WWII veteran, was a career shipyard welder. No job is more important.
In high school we had Tech school best thing ever you can not only prepare for a job but find out if you like it or not most tech jobs now a day's you don't need collage for just learn the skills for the job you like which brings me back to the later I started out taking machine shop by the time I retired I was an Integration Engineer a took class throughout my career and they all led to the next job.
Me too jumped into Military... Nuclear Power. I retired at the top of my game. I was quite shocked how I enjoyed the challenge.
I attended a university and got an unmarketable degree. I've been in the workforce for over thirty years, and still making crappy wages. I see now that learning a skilled trade would have served me better
Not allowed to mention masculinity and how great it is for so many GUYS to do real, physical and very skilled work, earning serious money as well.
Love this man!
I learned metal working and spot welding in 7th grade…. In 1986. Dang I’m old…. 😅
I went to a rural school in California with a great AG program and shop learning to weld work on cars ect.. starting in 7th grade all the way through 12th. When I graduated in 2001 I had more knowledge than people twice my age was able to advance fast bought my house at 25 years old with no help from anyone doing electrical work starting out digging ditches. Character is built and respect is earned.
Give a man a fish feed him for a day teach him to fish he is fed for life. Hard work clean money live happy and fulfilled.
I was called dumb and stupid for going to trade high school in the early 1960s got my plumbing license worked made good money for 50 plus years. Best part no tuition to pay back 👍
They are leaving out the part where kids today fell like they have nothing to work for. They have little hope of buying a house and having a marriage and kids and the kind of future we dreamed about as kids. They have lost their hopeful future because of the terrible policies and bad things happening and they feel like why work if nothing will get better?
How many kids have gone to school only to find out there are no jobs. I went to school for electrician, computer programming, truck driving, no jobs. I have no experience. Elon Musk completed college could not find a job. Ppl are motivated and willing to work. Yes there are apprenticeships if you can find a company that will hire you. Many people are sold on the idea that getting an education then you will have a job. Many times people go into debit to get an education and find no job.
i appreciate mikes stance on the topic, i’m an 18 year old girl currently in welding school that i’m paying for in full myself and all through high school i was told by teachers and advisors that i will be nothing if i don’t get a college degree. it pushes so many young people into getting degrees and debt that they don’t want and making them regret it later on.
Not just can't afford but has no purpose. A degree in social action, women's studies and other non-functional degrees prepares no one and serves no purpose.
I want Mike everyday for 2 hrs on the radio. I'll even take an AM station cause I live in Wyoming nowhere. Good day.
I had my son in the shop since he could walk.
He stayed the course and worked maintenance with me as a senior in high school.
After the place he worked for shut down and he was married, he worked with me another 12 years.
His son is now 13 and been welding for a few years now.
Welding at the bench is a bit different than a greasy sawmill debarker.
We had a lot of "welders" fresh from school that wouldn't work for only 20 bucks an hour.
Even small companies need a skilled labor force that they can realistically afford.
By far one of the great ones for sure
Yes, what a great movement. There are loads of people who prefer working with their hands. Let them learn a trade. But people will have to have respect for the work they do and not look down on 'dumb'blue collar workers. At least they have not been ruined by higher education indoctrintion.
I received my associates degree in electromechanical almost forty years ago. I’m actually considering retiring at 57... trade school has been very good to me!
Mike Rowe is amazing!
Keep the university full . Pipefitter here, making bank because people are LAZY.
TRUE PATRIOT
Orville and Wilbur Wright did not have degrees in aeronautics!
We did this in the old days
80s 90s then it stopped
Trump needs to make Mike Rowe in charge of Labor in the United States of America that would be a good man to head up the job to me it makes comments sense
Wisconsin leading the way.
Young people you want a house? You like vacations?
Going to college is fine.
But I believe you can really make a better life in the best state. Wisconsin leading the way in a great life with the best people in all.
Marry chistmas.
People remember after 2008...lots of workers lost jobs. So we gotta just keep the numbers in line..but yes great jobs.
Once again Mike is right on target with his comments
they should learn to weld instead of jr high school
Why don't we have people like him in government?
A Tru American spirit 👍🙏♥️
My two kids, Thing 1 and Thing 2, have 4 master's degrees between them. They are unemployed.
My daughter had a 100K education and couldn’t make a reasonable living. She has a BS in Economics. She minored in Spanish.
She just got her Assoc. degree in Welding and has been made Line Supervisor after 3 months. She loves it and is finally earning a real wage.
Amen. I just hope theses kids are listening. Because of the horrible professor, our kids are being taken away from the parents and so deep in debt by the time they graduate. It's a nightmare.
Keep talking Mike. Maybe some are listening. God bless 💖
Love this.
Because of shop class in Jr High... I build cabinets, I can weld, I understand electricity, and is why I'm in the position I'm in now. I have worked on bowling equipment for almost 50 years. I have an associate's degree in mechanical engineering from UCLA, but that's not what got me where I'm at. I credit the shop class in Jr High.
Dirty hands make clean money.
Let's Go, BRANDON!🤬
And why even pay them. So much fun they should just work for free…. Right?! 🤨
Go to a trade school or be an apprentice. Don't get strapped down for yrs & yrs to a school loan.
Arbeit mach das lieben suss. (Work makes the life sweet.) Our family's motto...
How About Find Recently Discharged Veterans ?
There are no shop classes in Jr High any more ??
Im class of 1991 from the midwest, they had no such thing when i was in jr and high school.
I've been on both sides of the equation and I fully support kids learning the trades. Craft jobs are just as honorable and essential as white collar jobs, if not more so.
Balance skilled labor with Education. OJT followed by Education brings steady income further in life.
I've heard some interesting things about Germany's system, have a program where you can choose a vocational path at an adolescent age with the possibility to drift back to standard general high school education. I think it's smart to allow a bit of life planning at that age if someone has some path in mind already, it definitely can happen early that a skill clicks with some and other generalized education can be doubly taxing then regarding focus.
i love mike..should run for president
The main problem like here in the Uk is that education is run by academics that see no value in vocational training and manual skills but continually push going to university, paying thousands of pounds for a degree that is worthless. I know so many people that have degrees that are working stacking shelves because they cannot get a job with the degree they have.
A lot of socioligy and gender study degrees work at timmies
Indeed!
If they want to be professionals they must go to college. Medical doctor veterinarian engineer etc.
"professionals" are not made at a school, just as politicians are not leaders. "Stand back, I'm a professional" ... "Trust me, I have a PhD" ... So say the scientists from Wuhan. Professionals are not defined with titles or salaries. Poor choice of words. They're employees. If you want to work in a hospital or high skilled job, you will need an education. Which job you want, determines which education you will need. Don't put people on pedistals to make other people feel smaller.
Don't fall for the Conservative trap. We are individuals. Do not lump people into categories. Where we go to school, who our mentors are, what experience & training we receive. Age affects each of us differently. Genetics set us apart - we can't all be basketball stars. I may be a Dr, but that doesn't mean I'm a professional. I may be an instructor, but that doesn't mean I'm a professional. I may be Martin Scorsese, but that doesn't mean I'm a professional. Some people will call Donald Trump professional, I know I do. It has nothing to do with an education. I don't know the man. I don't live with him. I call him a professional, because of his art. President Trump's "Art of the Sale" ... The man is a genius, not a Saint.
Maybe in all these years of doing this you missed the fact that blue collar jobs pay based on risk , the higher the induvial risk the more the pay . So yes you don't get large debit that you do with white collar professions but you place your personal safety in jeopardy in order to get paid .
I racked up $100,000 in college and I’m not a doctor. :(
Plumbers, electricians, welders, all good paying jobs,
Stop calling 18 year olds kids for a start.
We need to stop pushing kids into educations they can't use let alone can't afford. We need to teach kids to do something that creates things. That doesn't mean they have to be line workers. There are amazing opportunities with today's technologies to do real advanced creative work making and building useful things.
As possible representation for fellow blue collar, that perhaps a young person or 2 can think about. I have enjoyed 50 years of the construction arena, certified in welding, commercial / industrial electrician, and a decent awareness of the other crafts. Many just like me out there, we built these skill sets through apprenticeship, commitment, attitude, humbleness, and not from staring at a phone or being involved in these media platforms so prevalent nowadays. These careers do not happen overnight, nor in a 2 or 4 year period. I witnessed many young people that do not entertain getting into the skilled trades because they are in a hurry, or do not want or think they can do the physical aspect.
Wel don.
Why can't people got to college after twenty. Those gap years really help people decide.
I agree vocational education is extremely useful. However college shouldn’t cost as much as it does. It shouldn’t be a question of affordability it should be an actual choice.
The average College graduates trying to make 25 to $30 an hour and a good diesel mechanical bring $95 an hour And they spent $50000 to get that $25 an hour job
Pushing mine into hvac get my associates next semester in hvac they can have the same thing before they graduate high school
Technically speaking, with that much power (electricity) flowing through those welders, I’m curious to know if they need to be degaussed. The recent rains we had in California would probably qualify.