Small note - As many have pointed out Div on Oryx is pointless, so if you still want to keep this simple you can either... 1) Forfeit the debuff and just do 6 whispers or 2) Do 6 whispers and have some people intermittently throw solar/void grenades for debuff Or, if you want to be optimal, have one person tractor double pellet his hand. The important thing to take away from this video is that you only need 5 whispers to one phase, so with 6 you'll be cruising!
Llama, thank you for making the offer the highest quality destiny videos ever, been watching you since 4 thousand and I’ll keep watching you when you get 1 million, keep making the great content and don’t stop❤
Since Divinity only gives 15% you would do more if all 6 uses Whisper on Oryx. Or do you use Divinity for the consistency? To me it doesn't feel like you can miss Oryx even if you try =)
The first minute made me sub. This entire video series is gonna be so helpful, praying every player sees it. Definitely gonna help me to get back into speedrunning
Why use div for oryx? It's a damage loss as 15% isn't enough to offset the cost of losing a whisper, and it's very easy to throw one weaken nade right at the start which would make 6 whispers even better. The crit bubble isn't helpful as it's contained entirely within his normal crit, so that doesn't help either
@@btr1011 LFG players are complete NPCs istg. They still think Thunderlord does more damage with Div even though that was patched ages ago. But hey, some LFGs still think bubble gives a bigger damage boost than Well
@@TH_Zireael2077 it also wasn't even that much more damage when the TLord/Div bug was present, basically just Xenophage DPS with twice as much total damage in reserves.
@@TH_Zireael2077 Around like season 17 some guy asked me to run guillotine over lament because void weapons “do more damage than other elements when a tractor is applied” Change went live in shadowkeep, 2019 btw 💀 I swear LFG people just do not keep up with updates around the game. Like they do not know what nerfs or buffs are
For nighthawk hunters with short load times a good idea is to swap to a pair of boots with 2 kinetic surges to boost the golden dun damage and swap back to boots with dps weapon surges afterwards also i've had a little bit of a skill issue and forgot to swap off of void surges for oryx, the team with everyone running solar surges would definitely kill him a bit faster
If you're a wellock in the encounter run Mantle of battle harmony, killing anything procs a x4 solar surge for 10 seconds making whisper even better. Mantle of battle harmony outpaces phoenix in terms of super regen. Source: Treymanblock If you're set on strandlock run lumina and thread of ascent rocket rotations with a solar fusion.
For people who need help killing bosses, I question whether they'd actually be capable of running double special while retaining enough ammo up to the DPS phase. Double special ain't nearly as ammo-free as it previously was.
True but most classes have very effective ad clear tools that don't require using weapons, think Sunbracers, Fan Knives and Banner of War/Skullfort/Mini Hammer
Remember guys use what ever you want don’t let certain people decide what YOU use K? Btw interesting video seeing bosses get utterly get destroyed is cool to me
It's a two sided issue. Being told your loadout sucks and you can't use guns you like feels bad. Knowing the raid is going to take dramatically longer because somebody insists on using a bad loadout also feels bad. Gotta set those expectations up front.
Whisper is great for oryx, but I don’t think divinity is helping DPS. 115 x 5 = 575, while 6 x 100 = 600. Div is negative DPS. Prolly better off tethering or tractoring his hand or just not using anything at all.
There's a artifact perk called revitalizing blast that weakens bosses for a short duration when damaged by a solar ability during season of the wish. The timer is 6 seconds and a 15% debuff. That would make up for the div loss. Just need to ensure solar players rotate nades. Uncertain if each damage tick like on a solar nade refreshes the debuff.
0:22 No, caretaker has more health than warpriest. Warpriest has around 19mil, caretaker has around 22mil. But caretaker is coded to receive more damage than warpriest so that’s why we feel warpriest is tougher. And I think crota is also healthier than warpriest as well (might be wrong)
Crota's in the same boat, yeah. It's just weird to say Caretaker has more health when, in practice, you shoot him less to kill him, even if it's technically true under the hood. Effective health is what matters.
@@LlamaD2 It was surprisingly easy especially w the seasonal mods this season. Only took us like an hour and half way through we completely switched up the strat
Really loved the video and wanna see more, but im not sure the warpriest 1 phase is lfg proof since (in my experience) a lot of people in lfgs usually dont wanna run double special
you can also one phase oryx very easily by doing this neat trick known as 6 star eater hunters on golden gun. does this make the rest of the raid harder and less flexible? yes. is it funny? also yes
while probably not entirely necessary, i think you forgot to mention that the gaze people can also deal a smol amount of damage before running to grab the gaze again. which can help in weaker groups, but is probably irrelevant in stronger ones anyways
The only thing I'll bring up is that you CAN tractor cannon Oryx's Hand to get the maximum debuff going, and have one other person actually doing damage during the fight with the tractor fusioning from where his hand is or just meleeing it with strand as a titan. I They will need to be ok swapping to Div for the final part though, given he's no longer on the map, but you got PLEAnty of time to do that so likely still entirely doable. Just makes the 'get to final stand' that much easier and make it that much less likely for people to run out of whisper during said final stand too.
@@LlamaD2 The average LFG can probably not even follow this video whatsoever and will be hardstuck on using Thunderlord even when it's least useful lmao
@@LlamaD2 Didn't respond to this earlier cause I just realized/thought about it today, but main reason to also bring this up is that it's a LOT more likely a random LFGer has Tractor than they have Div these days especially. Still, for sure Div is easier if one is present and still results in what is desired, but it is a thing that just came to my mind to consider while watching your latest upload about Root. (good stuff on that btw!)
You can do better on Dragon's Shadow or Rain of Fire due to superior reloading and more relevant supers. But yeah, given Oryx's big crit spot, Divinity seems like kind of a waste when you could Tractor. I'm sure Llama knows this, though.
Yeah, the Broodweaver rotation is great. I use Witherhoard instead of Izi and Threadling nades instead of grapple cause i just find them easier to use, though. Also, 2:05 Taipan can’t get Vorpal
Another series would be an optimized master version of these raids like best weapons for the challange etc and a challange way would also just be a bonus and triumph since everything on this is outdated and ur the go to now in my entire clan because its updated
You don't need div this season cuz solar nades weaken and someone can just tractor double pellet him it. If you shot the right spot on oryx's hand you can do triple damage with pellets
Blade Barrage & Star Eaters > Nighthawk, u have to Prepop Gun u cant be in Well cause Radiant Buff wont work, Blade Barrage with Star Eaters in Animation swap to Radiant Dance Machines and dump ur apex is alot better.
I feel like divinity would be a waste on oryx this season with revitalizing blast being in the artifact and oryx having a manageable crit spot. 6 whispers would be better would it not?
Only problem I see with these is the damage for console players isn't what it is for PC players. I say this as I have tested it with the PC players in my group and there also many videos here on youtube showing the differences on many different things also. Just as an example the leviathans breathe gets about twice the damage on PC and same with celestial golden gun. I ran the same build as a PC friend he got 999,999 for damage and the highest I got was around 712,000 on console. If I remember correct I want to say his actual damage was 1.4 million. We both did it several times to make sure and got almost the same results every time. I say almost cause on console I saw around 650,000 a couple of times. I was on PS5. One of the videos I saw said it is a frame rate issue and that higher frame rates on multiple different things deal much more damage.
I gotta ask a question on golgi..while i would be HORRIBLE for damage on golg, could i theoretically hold the gaze forever with stronghold and lament? And would that be a good thing for my teamates to have me (i suck) just standing there and having a staring match behind my sword
wouldnt eremites be better than cartesian coordinate since vorpal is a 15% increase while controlled burst is 20%? but i guess you only shoot it to proc baitnswitch.
I think a much easier way to kill warpriest is to run 5 nighthawk players and a welllock and divinity with Fusion rifles craft a tipan it literally comes free with witch queen just do the Enigma glave quest craft it with triple tap and fireing line
For oryx wouldn’t it be better to not have a div an either have someone on tractor or just have another whisper as it’s a 15% boost with div meaning that you would get more damage having another Pearson using whisper as 15*5 is only 75%
Yeah 6 Whispers would be better especially this season cause you get the 15% debuff for free with Revitalizing Blast, outside of this season though tractor can be used or just a warlock on chog with Briarbind for a very easy 15% debuff that would let you stay on Whisper and change nothing about your dps phase other than having a void soul on you when you start shooting
@@LlamaD2 I would argue 6 Whispers is just as easy as 5 Whispers 1 Div and it should be a decent bit more damage too, if it was pre nerf Div sure but now 1 Div 5 Whispers is 1.15 x 5 = 5.75 Whispers worth of dmg plus div dmg vs 6 Whispers which idk maybe Div deals more than 25% of Whisper dps but I doubt it and adding any other weakens should automatically put 6 Whispers ontop, seems like it might have just been a slight oversight which is fine honestly don't sweat it if it works anyway then it isn't that big a deal squeezing out a bit more dps
I dont see why you would use divinity. Oryx has a very easy crit spot and it would be more damage to have everyone on whisper and someone on weakening grenades even just for the start of the phase.
@@Zasz33the person on tractor can literally walk up to his legs and just tractor/double pellet there. Bonus points if a tcrash titan since u get there immediately after the bombs blow up
@@Zasz33 my point is that the damage gained from having a divinity is less that just having one more whisper. Therefore having no debuff or just a void weaken is better.
please don't use div for oryx. Have someone on tractor go up and tag his arm and swap slugs, or just 6 stack whisper. The crit bubble is not helping you at all in that fight and the 15% debuff is practically throwing.
@@LlamaD2 does it give a better crit multiplier or anything? I thought Div generally is damage loss unless it helps with hitting more crits, which doesn’t really matter on oryx.
Small note - As many have pointed out Div on Oryx is pointless, so if you still want to keep this simple you can either...
1) Forfeit the debuff and just do 6 whispers or
2) Do 6 whispers and have some people intermittently throw solar/void grenades for debuff
Or, if you want to be optimal, have one person tractor double pellet his hand.
The important thing to take away from this video is that you only need 5 whispers to one phase, so with 6 you'll be cruising!
“It is hard not to get one phase on daughters”
My lfg teammates would like to speak with you LOL
Show them this video next time!
When Wrath of the Machine
@@IWH1T30UT_xXlike tomorrow
Are they the "I'm on add duty" type of lfgers?
as your new editor i demand you pin this
guys he forced me to do this help!
@@LlamaD2 born to upload, forced to pin 😔
Only people who get pinned love men with big oily butts
@@LlamaD2blink twice if you need help
@@delta235_ 😆😆
I've always told my lfg groups to run whisper against oryx, and im happy to hear you suggest it too
Llama, thank you for making the offer the highest quality destiny videos ever, been watching you since 4 thousand and I’ll keep watching you when you get 1 million, keep making the great content and don’t stop❤
Thank you man, that means a lot ❤
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A series for this would be great.
that's the plan!
Absolutely love this as a series concept. I'm gonna see if my more casual group wants to attempt this style of raiding.
Since Divinity only gives 15% you would do more if all 6 uses Whisper on Oryx. Or do you use Divinity for the consistency? To me it doesn't feel like you can miss Oryx even if you try =)
I was thinking the same thing. Or maybe go out and tractor or something?
The first minute made me sub. This entire video series is gonna be so helpful, praying every player sees it. Definitely gonna help me to get back into speedrunning
Bu far the best guide ive ever seen. This was put together so well i understood everything easily. Your the man, keep it up.
Why use div for oryx? It's a damage loss as 15% isn't enough to offset the cost of losing a whisper, and it's very easy to throw one weaken nade right at the start which would make 6 whispers even better.
The crit bubble isn't helpful as it's contained entirely within his normal crit, so that doesn't help either
Yeah and we also have the Revitalizing Blast seasonal mod for a free 15% debuff too
Thank you mister llama d2, i shall now tell my lfg teammate to swap off thunderlord and double primary
You tell em boss
And they shall proceed to flip you off and ignore you because tlord players are set in there ways
@@btr1011 LFG players are complete NPCs istg. They still think Thunderlord does more damage with Div even though that was patched ages ago.
But hey, some LFGs still think bubble gives a bigger damage boost than Well
@@TH_Zireael2077 it also wasn't even that much more damage when the TLord/Div bug was present, basically just Xenophage DPS with twice as much total damage in reserves.
@@TH_Zireael2077 Around like season 17 some guy asked me to run guillotine over lament because void weapons “do more damage than other elements when a tractor is applied”
Change went live in shadowkeep, 2019 btw 💀 I swear LFG people just do not keep up with updates around the game. Like they do not know what nerfs or buffs are
“What are you looking at” damn you caught me
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Using a worm god to take down a hive god. Xol would be quite pleased.
For nighthawk hunters with short load times a good idea is to swap to a pair of boots with 2 kinetic surges to boost the golden dun damage and swap back to boots with dps weapon surges afterwards
also i've had a little bit of a skill issue and forgot to swap off of void surges for oryx, the team with everyone running solar surges would definitely kill him a bit faster
I love how everytime in Oryx encounter the thralls try to photobomb😂
for golgy use sunbracers/ strand titan grapple melee and just spam abilities. solo damage is just about his entire health bar
If you're a wellock in the encounter run Mantle of battle harmony, killing anything procs a x4 solar surge for 10 seconds making whisper even better. Mantle of battle harmony outpaces phoenix in terms of super regen. Source: Treymanblock
If you're set on strandlock run lumina and thread of ascent rocket rotations with a solar fusion.
For people who need help killing bosses, I question whether they'd actually be capable of running double special while retaining enough ammo up to the DPS phase. Double special ain't nearly as ammo-free as it previously was.
True but most classes have very effective ad clear tools that don't require using weapons, think Sunbracers, Fan Knives and Banner of War/Skullfort/Mini Hammer
I didn’t know Golgorath could be thundercrashed till now, thanks for the tip
1:19 lol
Nice vid, still haven't one phased WP yet but il give this a go, one note: 5*1.15=5.75 so i think 6 whispers would be better than having a div
Need a check for flinch from thralls
Remember guys use what ever you want don’t let certain people decide what YOU use K?
Btw interesting video seeing bosses get utterly get destroyed is cool to me
It's a two sided issue. Being told your loadout sucks and you can't use guns you like feels bad. Knowing the raid is going to take dramatically longer because somebody insists on using a bad loadout also feels bad. Gotta set those expectations up front.
unless your that one thunderlord guy. then please god stop making us sit here as you contribute pocket change
Whisper is great for oryx, but I don’t think divinity is helping DPS. 115 x 5 = 575, while 6 x 100 = 600. Div is negative DPS. Prolly better off tethering or tractoring his hand or just not using anything at all.
Tether doesn’t work on Oryx
There's a artifact perk called revitalizing blast that weakens bosses for a short duration when damaged by a solar ability during season of the wish.
The timer is 6 seconds and a 15% debuff. That would make up for the div loss. Just need to ensure solar players rotate nades. Uncertain if each damage tick like on a solar nade refreshes the debuff.
0:22 No, caretaker has more health than warpriest. Warpriest has around 19mil, caretaker has around 22mil. But caretaker is coded to receive more damage than warpriest so that’s why we feel warpriest is tougher. And I think crota is also healthier than warpriest as well (might be wrong)
Crota's in the same boat, yeah. It's just weird to say Caretaker has more health when, in practice, you shoot him less to kill him, even if it's technically true under the hood. Effective health is what matters.
Yeah in-game caretaker is the healthiest, but when adjusted for scalars warpriest comes out on top
honestly didnt realise whisper was that good for oryx
Erm, technically the best setup for oryx is 6 nighthawks w parasite and a tractor then a bait and switch supremacy! ☝️🤓
Yes except that is a very specific strat that ive come to learn people suck at using gg
dude that vid was nuts
@@LlamaD2 It was surprisingly easy especially w the seasonal mods this season. Only took us like an hour and half way through we completely switched up the strat
@@Helpfullhunter nice, we used a similar strat for the explicator 1 plate
@@TargetSniper365 Blud don’t know the method 💀
Can you put these in a playlist, please?
Really loved the video and wanna see more, but im not sure the warpriest 1 phase is lfg proof since (in my experience) a lot of people in lfgs usually dont wanna run double special
Yeah you're probably right, but that's why I was saying that it's the hardest one phase out there, to set expectations somewhat
you can also one phase oryx very easily by doing this neat trick known as 6 star eater hunters on golden gun. does this make the rest of the raid harder and less flexible? yes. is it funny? also yes
Nighthawk says hello.
Why Div on Oryx and not Tractor/double pellet on his feet?
love the videos actually helping my down bad fireteam
Seeing this vid makes me happy I wrapped up my whisper catalyst
while probably not entirely necessary, i think you forgot to mention that the gaze people can also deal a smol amount of damage before running to grab the gaze again. which can help in weaker groups, but is probably irrelevant in stronger ones anyways
The only thing I'll bring up is that you CAN tractor cannon Oryx's Hand to get the maximum debuff going, and have one other person actually doing damage during the fight with the tractor fusioning from where his hand is or just meleeing it with strand as a titan.
I They will need to be ok swapping to Div for the final part though, given he's no longer on the map, but you got PLEAnty of time to do that so likely still entirely doable. Just makes the 'get to final stand' that much easier and make it that much less likely for people to run out of whisper during said final stand too.
Yeah of course, just a little tougher for your average LFG haha
So you can tractor him in final as that is what the speedrun does its just not easy
@@LlamaD2 The average LFG can probably not even follow this video whatsoever and will be hardstuck on using Thunderlord even when it's least useful lmao
Like the other guy said, you can tractor him in final stand where his hamd is way up on the wall
@@LlamaD2 Didn't respond to this earlier cause I just realized/thought about it today, but main reason to also bring this up is that it's a LOT more likely a random LFGer has Tractor than they have Div these days especially.
Still, for sure Div is easier if one is present and still results in what is desired, but it is a thing that just came to my mind to consider while watching your latest upload about Root. (good stuff on that btw!)
For orxy you can have a triple shotgun titan with no backup plans, one shotgun with tractor. Larger debuff and pretty solid dps on its own
You can do better on Dragon's Shadow or Rain of Fire due to superior reloading and more relevant supers. But yeah, given Oryx's big crit spot, Divinity seems like kind of a waste when you could Tractor. I'm sure Llama knows this, though.
yeah he's just going for simplicity over flashy @@life-destiny1196
I would rather 2 phase this boss and let lfg play what they want than waiting 2 hours that lfg swaps there loadout for a not even gurantee one phase
Yeah, the Broodweaver rotation is great. I use Witherhoard instead of Izi and Threadling nades instead of grapple cause i just find them easier to use, though.
Also, 2:05 Taipan can’t get Vorpal
Ah you're right, my mistake!
Wouldn't Whisper be better for Golgorth since it does more total Damage compared to Cataclysmic BnS 4th Times?
I thought of this too but I think it's far easier to hit your crits with a linear vs a sniper, especially with how much Golgoroth moves
Another series would be an optimized master version of these raids like best weapons for the challange etc and a challange way would also just be a bonus and triumph since everything on this is outdated and ur the go to now in my entire clan because its updated
do you have a build link for the strand warlock dps build? / for the whole warpriest encounter?
This is good content right here
There's irony with using a worm god to kill Oryx.
What is the Minimal amount of Bombs needed for Oryx 1 phase?
"what you looking at?"
"what you looking at?" :D:D:D
For Daughters and Oryx, is Lumina and Cataclysmic that different from Leviathan's and Whisper? Usually I'm the Lumina guy for the whole raid
reminder to not shoot your celestial in a well, thank you
You don't need div this season cuz solar nades weaken and someone can just tractor double pellet him it. If you shot the right spot on oryx's hand you can do triple damage with pellets
Isnt 6whispers on oryx better than 5 and 1 div? Since div is 15% now wouldnt it be an automatic damage loss?
Almost certainly and especially considering this season has Revitalizing Blast mod for a free 15% debuff already
Yes, I love these videos
Alright I’m going to grind the battle pass so I can get exotic cypher to get whisper. That thing is op.
can u make more of these for other raids aswell?
Yes!
That Thrall got rekted.
Blade Barrage & Star Eaters > Nighthawk, u have to Prepop Gun u cant be in Well cause Radiant Buff wont work, Blade Barrage with Star Eaters in Animation swap to Radiant Dance Machines and dump ur apex is alot better.
I feel like divinity would be a waste on oryx this season with revitalizing blast being in the artifact and oryx having a manageable crit spot. 6 whispers would be better would it not?
This season yes, but I have tried to make these videos more general, and you can't fault Div's easy of use!
I knew Whisper was a good option for this fight. And my group wondered why I would use that instead of rockets or Cataclysmic
Rockets are better
Only problem I see with these is the damage for console players isn't what it is for PC players. I say this as I have tested it with the PC players in my group and there also many videos here on youtube showing the differences on many different things also. Just as an example the leviathans breathe gets about twice the damage on PC and same with celestial golden gun. I ran the same build as a PC friend he got 999,999 for damage and the highest I got was around 712,000 on console. If I remember correct I want to say his actual damage was 1.4 million. We both did it several times to make sure and got almost the same results every time. I say almost cause on console I saw around 650,000 a couple of times. I was on PS5. One of the videos I saw said it is a frame rate issue and that higher frame rates on multiple different things deal much more damage.
Yeah sorry no I’m not using linears on Golgy. Rockets will get you a more consistent 1 phase and you can put out more DPS. Also, whisper exists.
Rockets can also do really good damage on golgroth
Hey what’s the armor and shader on the warlock for the outro? Also pretty good and informative keep it up
All my fashion is pinned in the drip channel of my Discord! discord.gg/llamad2
Div on oryx💀
I gotta ask a question on golgi..while i would be HORRIBLE for damage on golg, could i theoretically hold the gaze forever with stronghold and lament? And would that be a good thing for my teamates to have me (i suck) just standing there and having a staring match behind my sword
Gaze is on a timer, about 15s, so no.
@@LlamaD2 information i didnt know! Thank you
What warlock exotic are you using on warpriest?
Necrotic Grip
tbh why div for oryz, like isnt it ez to get crit dmg, or there is some reasons for using it??
I just heard “thunderlord” for 5 minutes and 43 seconds
For oryx why div? Why not tractor instead because regardless when your shooting him its a CRIT even without div
Div is an easier debuff to apply, you can tractor of course but it isn't as lfg friendly
Will shadowshot be better? That way 7 whisper of the worm can be used?
@@RoaringEgg 7??? Also tether doesn't work on Oryx!
@@LlamaD2 mistype! thank you for the response captain, I always thought it worked if shot at the hand of that Oryx guy
Would whisper be better than izi wilderflight apex for oryx?
I know whisper’s really good for oryx, but is it THAT good?
The DPS is probably not quite there, but I'm interested to try it now
I’m about to whip out my “taipan with vorpal” now lez goooo lmao. Great vid tho, love these vids
yeah haha my mistake there, not sure why I remembered it that way
@@LlamaD2 nah ur fine man, every regular d2 player knew what ya meant. You still gave us the good strats, that’s what really matters.
Nice viedeo
Thx you Tipps i and a clan friend have 1 phast all bosses with a LFG
I have a question: What is the name of the Outro sound?
Is tractor worth running this season with revitalizing blast? I know the debuff is higher but you’re getting to use a rocket
Yeah for sure, I'll admit that revitalizing blast is quite convenient though"
as one of the dummies: Thank You
meanwhile with LFG random boss encounter .... adrenaline junkie hotheads with void surges on legs. two tail fox instead of gally.
what do you think about cloudstrike + cascade point wendigo? Love that for Oryx and it does most damage in most LFG groups.
definitely a fun rotation to do!
Really bad lol
Isn’t better with rocket swaps to start with 1 rl apex so you get the other 2 wit b&s🤨
llama my king
Can you please share the strand warlock build you used on oryx, daughters ?
It's nothing special just standing in a luna well with one void loader and levi breath
@@LlamaD2 Oh I meant any specific exotics , aspects fragments to use
I'm watching this despite already having Kingslayer
wouldnt eremites be better than cartesian coordinate since vorpal is a 15% increase while controlled burst is 20%? but i guess you only shoot it to proc baitnswitch.
In a rocket swap rotation no, it's too slow.
If Hunters are using Celestial Nighthawk make sure to add a kinetic surge mod for more dmg on golden gun
Make sure to only add 2 mods
Maybe a loadout swap w foetracer
I think a much easier way to kill warpriest is to run 5 nighthawk players and a welllock and divinity with Fusion rifles craft a tipan it literally comes free with witch queen just do the Enigma glave quest craft it with triple tap and fireing line
Ty llama
For oryx wouldn’t it be better to not have a div an either have someone on tractor or just have another whisper as it’s a 15% boost with div meaning that you would get more damage having another Pearson using whisper as 15*5 is only 75%
P.s. still great video would love to see more of these for other raids keep it up
Yeah 6 Whispers would be better especially this season cause you get the 15% debuff for free with Revitalizing Blast, outside of this season though tractor can be used or just a warlock on chog with Briarbind for a very easy 15% debuff that would let you stay on Whisper and change nothing about your dps phase other than having a void soul on you when you start shooting
Yes of course, I was really just trying to give a super easy option requiring little effort, which one div and 5 whispers can do
@@LlamaD2 I would argue 6 Whispers is just as easy as 5 Whispers 1 Div and it should be a decent bit more damage too, if it was pre nerf Div sure but now 1 Div 5 Whispers is 1.15 x 5 = 5.75 Whispers worth of dmg plus div dmg vs 6 Whispers which idk maybe Div deals more than 25% of Whisper dps but I doubt it and adding any other weakens should automatically put 6 Whispers ontop, seems like it might have just been a slight oversight which is fine honestly don't sweat it if it works anyway then it isn't that big a deal squeezing out a bit more dps
Is Oryx with only 4 bombs? or more?
Yes with 4
You only need 1
@@Helpfullhunter I'll personally send you a tenner if you can 1-bomb in LFG
shouldve maybe said something about the tractor and gjally players doing knights in wp?
should still be doable without tho tbf
I heard levis breath damage weaker depending on your frame rate, is that true?
This has been proven false, it's the same damage regardless of frame rate.
I dont see why you would use divinity. Oryx has a very easy crit spot and it would be more damage to have everyone on whisper and someone on weakening grenades even just for the start of the phase.
Just for +15% dmg from divinity, I guess and too far for canon tractor his legs.
@@Zasz33the person on tractor can literally walk up to his legs and just tractor/double pellet there. Bonus points if a tcrash titan since u get there immediately after the bombs blow up
@@Zasz33 my point is that the damage gained from having a divinity is less that just having one more whisper. Therefore having no debuff or just a void weaken is better.
Why would you use Div on Oryx? Just use a sixth Whisper
Me: uses Briars all the way through
What fusions are those
whisper my beloved 🥴🥴
Whisper 🐐
What fusion is that
Are rockets better than linears for golgoroth?
please say yes bro i have already saved multiple golgoroth loadouts with apex predator
They were definitely optimal pre-Pack Hunter nerf, I don't know what people run these days when they're trying to maximize him though.
please don't use div for oryx. Have someone on tractor go up and tag his arm and swap slugs, or just 6 stack whisper. The crit bubble is not helping you at all in that fight and the 15% debuff is practically throwing.
No mention of Enhanced Surrounded Briar's hmmmm....🤔
Why is divinity good for oryx? Isn’t someone tractor swapping better?
Yeah it is but the point I am making is that it's easier to use a div
@@LlamaD2 does it give a better crit multiplier or anything? I thought Div generally is damage loss unless it helps with hitting more crits, which doesn’t really matter on oryx.
Can you realistically swap out celestial nighthawk for Star Eater scales gathering storm?
Of course! Celestial does more damage though...
cn is easier to prock tho
@@LlamaD2Did celestial get a buff this season or smth?
Edit: i forgot the 25% celestial nighthawk buff 💀 i swear i read twabs
@@starlightrainsyes, it’s the best now
I thought triple surges dont actually work and it’s just better to run two or am I mistaken?
Triple surges have always worked brother