@@pokrez.1853 The missions are above average at best, although I have to say the storytelling is really great considering it's just 2-4 little missions packed together. But I might be spoiled from playing, even making custom missions in ArmA III and only recently I played the (almost) all of the Battlefields so I might have a different view on what is considered a good mission
The best Battlefield in the entitre series, when it comes to looks, the feels, and the immersion of being in the battle. God I love it so much, still playing with the bois.
This is the number one thing any historical analysis misses when talking about bf1/games in general. There are many games that offer far more accuracy in regards to ww1 compared to bf1. But these games lack the visuals, sounds, effects, etc, that bf1 has. So despite the many nonsensical aspects of bf1, it actually feels like ww1 way more compared to games that are more accurate.
I am quite sure the bombers that assault the German fortress are the Caproni Ca. 5, which were used by the Italians and the Americans in WW1 but not the Royal Flying Corps 🙈
They do look like Ca. 5s but with the level of historycal acuracy at first glance they also look a lot like gotha GVs, that were made by the Germans... I hope you are rigth but considering EAs lack of attention...
They look like a sort of mash up between the Ca. 5s and the Vickers Vimy, an aircraft used in limited amounts by the RFC in the very end of the war. The only problem is the tail, where the production model Vimys have 2 horizontal stabilizers, but some pre production models had the one stabilizer, (which matches more with the bombers in game)
They are, indeed, Caproni Ca.5s. The reason for this is the Caproni Ca. 5 was the British faction bomber on release of Battlefield 1 and it wasn't until Battlefield 1's DLC expansion, Apocalypse, that the British faction got the Airco DH.10 as their main bomber. Campaign wasn't changed, so that's why you see the Caproni Ca. 5 being used.
Only issue is how unbelievable the gameplay is and how we don’t know Matteo outside of a 5 second cutscene. With mud and blood, you get somewhat of a connection with the whole tank crew. Especially your character, Townsend and McManus
You know when devs say “passion project” in their reveal events or what have you? And we just roll our eyes thinking “marketing jargon”? Well, when DICE say bf1 was a passion project, they werent joking. This game just oozes passion. Not a single detail was left off. From pre battle speeches to how mud accumulating on your gun, you can really tell how passionate these guys were.
@@taistelusammakko5088They hired a lot of historical advisors for the game who agreed that including these non-historical weapons was the best idea. It's a video game, not an academic source.
@@taistelusammakko5088 because at the end of the day this is still a AAA main line game made to appeal to mass audiences. They got the best of both worlds by staying authentic to the time period but still implementing things that were around at the general time period.
- The Webley was the standard revolver sidearm of the British military but it wasn't a general "must have or you get court marshaled" for the officer corp. Back during WWI, it is still a open field for officers to pick what sidearm they wanted to bring as a personal defense weaponry into battle as they want as long as it went pass their own officers as sidearms, back then, were still paid using your own pockets thus you're free to carry what pistol you want into battle. In fact, the general British troop didn't even scorn at the Mauser C96s because soo many British officer would actually love it and use it extensively due to it being 10 rounds instead of the regular 6 which was extremely vital when it comes to trench warfare. - The chivalry code in the air is absolutely correct. However, the color on the plane thing, not really as that only happened for the German side and especially for the Red Baron's platoon, the Jagdgeschwader I which was named as the "Flying Circus" or "Richthofen's Circus" cuz they're the only squadron in the entire field to have colorful planes and due to them often always staying in set up tents, they look like a bunch of circus performers. The whole color thing was only for Richthofen's unit whereas the other JGs don't have this criteria. Also, the bomber could be the Caudron G.4 which is both a twin-boom design and also, twin-engined and used as a bomber and recon plane by the the French air force, the "Service Aeronautique" - The Villar-Perosa was a bitch of a gun to use and despite the Arditi liking it alot, they too realized the limitations that with two guns stuck together, they burn thru ammo quicker and with that, they now have to carry even more ammo which defeats their purpose. Not only that, there's no effective way of aiming it which, again, defeats the purpose of a gun so they decided to ask around and see what company has a solution and two companies came up with effectively the same solution, adding stock to the gun but this time, splitting the Villar-Perosa into two guns instead of one and that spawned the OVP and the legendary Beretta M1918 which was also used in the mission. The OVP would see limited use whereas the Beretta saw more usage by the Arditi and they loved it alot. The M1918 would go on to serve the Italian military as late as the fall of Italy in 1945.
Winston Churchill famously used a Mauser C96 as his own personal sidearm which he really liked it! The Villar Perosa depicted in BF1 was entirely fictionalized based from inaccurate depictions in movies. The real one had a bipod and spade grips instead of a pistol grip and front grip.
Funny that UA-cam should recommend this to me today. I was looking through my great grandfather’s old stuff on the weekend and found a map that he had done of northern France in October 1918 (he has a note saying it was the last of the war). It’s an ordinance survey around Licques and Colembert (and surrounding areas). It shows trenches, gun emplacements, aa equipment, destroyed houses etc. it’s a fascinating piece of history and I hope to convince my mum to let me donate it to a museum/war memorial as it shouldn’t be left to rot in an old suitcase.
@@MrSnowmanFR it is lol. Like... I've already gone loud, I could have just used my own heavy tank right over there for this but no, I had to steal this tractor with a gun
@@MrSnowmanFR I've even seen one youtuber do the arabian stealth mission in the tank. They didn't see moving tank that was 5 meters in front of them and driving straight at them
5:00 The protrusions are the Grouser Spud that was affixed to every fourth or sixth track link. You can see them sometimes in old photos. The size is slightly exaggerated, but it basically just exists to give the tracks some extra traction and also slightly decrease ground pressure. Very useful in muddy conditions.
Battlefield 1 to this day is my gold standard for a historically accurate game. The places, equipment, operations and themes are rooted in reality even if they didn't directly exist while the gameplay characters and missions are fantastical and exaggerated to make it engaging. The most impressive part to me is how good they incorporated historically accuracy into the multiplayer of the game and for players truly interested in history they have included an extensive codex that has tons of highly accurate information. Playing battlefield 1 won't make you particularly knowledgeable about WW1, but it can easily make you more than interested enough to go out of your way to end up learning tons.
@Teaman144 yes I've seen it, I'm not surprised at all that it has historical inaccuracies but my opinion in unchanged, what is communicated overall is more powerful than a inaccurate details, you can argue pedantics all day about if someone's leather strap is historically accurate or you can accept some stylistic choice made for most of the time gameplay purposes. Of course Germans didn't have many if any tanks in ww1 but it would be a lot less of a battlefield game withoht them
@canadaboy2503 Dude.... they literally have weapons in the game that were never actually produced, ones that never saw service, completely inaccurate equipment, etc. They weren't historically accurate at all. Was it a fun game? Kinda. Would've been better without the variation system for weapons in my opinion.
I always love going through the missions, finding the codexs and reading everything on it. It shows how Dice actually did research on world war 1. I wished they did the same for Battlefield 5
Friends in High Places is my favorite war story of the game. Growing up in southern Denmark, very near to the Zeppelin Hangars build by the German Empire when that part was still German, I grew up with stories of British air raids against it, and WW1 aviation in general. Thank you for a great video, I am looking forward for more.
Really appreciate the point you're making at the end of the Arditi section about the war as a whol. Would have loved to have seen the German and Austro-Hungarian sides represented for that reason!
One of the only downsides of the campaigns in my opinion. The opening speeches of the operations game mode for the Germans and Austro Hungarians are amazing.
It feels illegal to be this early. But hell yeah! I absolutely loved your video of BFV. And this video is no exception. Keep up the amazing work, and I'm excited to see the next video you'll come out with!
5:00 The track extensions on the Mark V tank are called "spuds," and were used as a way to increase the tread width for better grip in muddy conditions. They were implemented on Mark II's and III's, but phased out from IV's and V's, as they had little impact on performance. Their inclusion on Big Bess is likely just a design choice. Fun fact: the Germans made their own version in WW2 called Ostketten (East Tracks) to tackle the Spring muds on the Eastern Front.
23:04 These are Caproni Ca.5s. The reason for this is the Caproni Ca. 5 was the British faction bomber on release of Battlefield 1 and it wasn't until Battlefield 1's DLC expansion, Apocalypse, that the British faction got the Airco DH.10 as their main bomber. Campaign wasn't changed, so that's why you see the Caproni Ca. 5 being used.
I went back to this game a few days ago and I don’t know why I stopped playing. I love this game, it’s half of why I’m a history buff now, the other half being Sabaton. There will never be another FPS game as good as Battlefield 1.
cool thing about BF1 campaign is that every one of them is like the introduction of the game mechanics and map for the multiplayer (except the pigeon of course), pretty much like this year MW3 but better
BF 1 is such a gem, what a shame that they dropped the ball so hard with BF V. I really wished for a WWII game that captured the athmosphere and stories of the war as great as BF 1 did.
@@taistelusammakko5088 First off being immersive and being accurate are two different things. Second off the game was aiming to capture the feeling of WW1, which in the story modes it did quite well, rather than retelling the story of the history books outright. Complaining that a video game, a non academic source, took liberties to be more fun as a video game isn't highly accurate to the actual WW1 feels like an exercise born of spite more than anything else.
@@NotBavarian if people really want accuracy and realism play Verdun, truth be told this game would be pretty boring if it just stuck to accuracy. With the elements of World War I and its atmosphere makes it my favorite battlefield.
And the worst part is BFV wasn’t awful to play, it just had HORRIBLE marketing. Especially after the pacific update it became an amazing game, and gameplay-wise it’s my favorite. So sad support for it was dropped for the absolute flop that is 2042.
11:35 I always thought that the reason they chose to use the Mauser was because compared to a Revolver, It in video game terms, Feels Weaker. There was an event in a WW2 Video-Game once where despite different Animations, Sounds and Appearances all of the gear between Allies and Axis, The two were identical stats wise, But the sheer BEEF of the allied gear made their players so much more confident, It scewed things in their favour. So giving us a "PewPew" Mauser that, while in real life was equally as lethal, But in game terms isnt the "BANG!!! BANG!!!" Of a big-heck off Revolver, It probably to help us feel more out of our Element, smaller gun, less noise, Much more like a freshly recruited driver stumbling through the fog and woods trying not to get shot, Instead of badass action-man hero.
5:25 I’ll accept the crew of 4 because it’s a short campaign and a crew of 8 would just be full of forgettable people. And plus if I remember correctly (it has been a while since a played the campaign and I am an American) I believe the crew is supposed to represent the 4 major groups of the UK so English, Welsh, Irish, and Scottish. Edit: I know the Irish are an Independent country from the UK but at the time we’re still under their control.
Have you heard of the Isonzo game? If not, it's a ww1 shooter similar to hell let loose, the one I have played is Specifically about the Italian front. I think it is a really fun game and that they portrayed the war and combat on the Italian front really well.
I like to think during the Avanti Savoia campaign that the narrator is again an unreliable one. The story is again told in past tense by a narrator whom you play as, though this time to his daughter rather than to the player. There's a part that stuck with me, one where his daughter expresses that she is worried simply hearing the story for the danger he had to face, to which he responds with something like "Don't worry! I was in a... a full suit of armor." Since you're playing as him while he narrates the story, it seems to imply that the crazy high HP your main character has simply by wearing that metal armor suit is not only a gameplay contrivance but also a narrative tool used to demonstrate the character's intent to "soften" the story for his daughter and not to frighten her. There's also the other exaggerations like the section where he somehow singlehandedly takes down like a dozen planes, survives a direct explosion, and wields a massive machine gun that he fires fully standing and mows down dozens of enemies. In other words, we play the embellished version of historical events that the character invented to make the story easier to tell to his daughter.
Every one fits into the unreliable narrator every one of them is a story, the exceptions being Through the Mud and Blood and Storms of Steel those two are flashbacks or nightmares, which keeps the unreliable narrator aspect but makes it so it's not intentionally being changed.
Thanks man for representing Canada properly because during war we don't really get represented that much other than the fact that we committed mass war crimes but again than you for mentioning us.
I never get to play in a Canadian company in any of the CODs. Some of the most ferocious fighting was done by us and it's a let down not getting to delve into these stories 😢
I loved the story in Battlefield 1, but as a Canadian, to see no Vimmy, Passchendaele, Flanders, or Rivier Somme, the battles that "made" my country made me kind of sad. even in multiplayer, we see no maple leaf graffiti, no maritimers charging trenches with nothing but a knife and bagpipes, and the only poppies are on the geographically nebulous Rupture map. (you know i instalock Somme as soon as it comes into the queue tho lol)
Some landships did have the little wider splits on the tracks to increase grip and rough terrain mobility, though it wasn’t a widespread modification and quite a rarity Also, I’m not sure if the A7V could be considered a “well made tank”, good video though! The bomber looks like some Handley-Page or Vickers design
The Runner is my all time favourte battlefield and even war story. So much emotion is shown through Bishop and the naive young digger he was charged with. Sadly that spirit and emotion has been eroded in modern times but i fully believe that that true blue aussies carry on that mateship and comradery with all parties involved in Galipoli, Tobruk and all other fronts across both world wars.
Storm of steel is a story within itself, it represents how the war was for nothing yet changed peoples lives forever, the man wakes up with PTSD remembering the war, remembering how close to the end he was, seeing another german lower his gun showing that the war was meaningless, everyone around them was dead so they had no point in fighting, that is simply how world war 1 ended, a very meaningless war, yet scarring everyone for life. The war was started by austrians and serbians, yet we barely see them fight, it mostly ends up falling into the hands of the British, french, and germans. (And a lot of other countries but im not gonna name them) Anyways, all the chaos happened around them and killed everyone just to leave 2 people alive, meaningless.
Hey. Quick lesson. Maxims son made the suppressor specifically for his dad who tested his weapons so frequently that he worried about his hearing. Unfortunately, Maxim would lose his hearing before the suppressor would be completed
I bought this game recently and if you pick it up on steam when it’s on sale it’s like 6$. Totally worth it for the campaign alone. My question is what multiplayer servers are best to join? I know some other BF games are having serious hacker problems and don’t really want to deal with that. Thanks
-It find weird that Edward’s does have c96 pistol instead of Webley revolver and also his jump suit is green and like you said it should be khaki , on top of that Pritchard and McManus are wearing pilot uniforms, and Townsend should be wearing an officers uniform instead of infantry uniform. -I found it bothering that people making it big deal that Blackburn is an American in the British army, it’s possible Blackburn could be Canadian. -Also everyone in community wish that there was more war stories involving mostly for the French since they have been fighting ww1 longer then Britain and America. -The Runner story is great accept for the fact the soldiers uniform is all wrong -British soldiers have brodie helmet which didn’t come until 1916, they should either a British field cap or a pith helmet. Fredrick Bishop is okay problem he has rain cape on and an Italian bandolier. Ottomans also German steel helmets which didn’t come until 1916.
22:00 Yes, that is true. The main reason pilots painted their aircrafts is because of The Red Baron, Richthoffen himself: For whatever reasons, one fine day I came upon the idea of having my crate painted glaring red. The result was that absolutely everyone could not help but notice my red bird I have read his book... He was an exceptional pilot, but a horrible writer.
I’ve never seen the spades on the tracks anywhere other than battlefield. That doesn’t mean they don’t exist, but I’m not sure of the use. I can’t imagine they would give better traction, but they would certainly deter boarding parties.
I would love to see a video about the maps and veichles in the multiplayer. Also battlefield 1 was'nt supposed to be 100% acurate. This is a direct quote from the lead game designer "we want to show what ww1 could have been what it could have looked like" thanks to that quote i treat bf1 as a sort of alternate history game.
The tanks are weird in this game as all the tanks are modelled as male tanks but can fire the machine guns as a female when you use them. The bits sticking off the side of the tracks are called spade grips. They gave the tanks a bit more traction but were prone to bending or breaking and very rarely used although this game has them on every tank.
I think it’s worth saying that BF1 does have a codex, which does contain the history for said history buffs but also has to be battlefield. I also don’t know why people fuss about historical inaccuracy like Frosty 1. If they want accuracy, play something like Izonso that was hand crafted to be as accurate as possible.
I dont know if anyone else would like to see this, but I'd absolutely love to see a defensive and attacking game mode. Where the defenders cant push forward and can only retreat if they need to and fall back to a different capturepoint that becomes visible to each team when the previous point has been captured. And the attackers can just come at them in waves or be sneaky and flank or something like that. I feel like this would be so cool especially if your the last on your team defending and you have to make a last stand that would be so cool. Gajin could do this for alot of maps and reuse the currents ones i was thinking something like urban maps. Id love to see something like this. AND NO CAS. Also side note id love to see more realistic voice lines and reactions to getting hit or if theres a tank in front of you the crew sounds panicked and scream and shout in fear or something and react to being hit like "NO THE GUNNER BEEN KILLED" idk i just feel like that would be so cool and be a breath of fresh air and make the game feel so much more immersive and realistic
Your guy gets panicky when he sees a grenade land in front of him. Also, whenever you level up, other soldiers around you will say something along the lines of "Congrats on the promotion Sergeant!"
I dunno if you're aware of this but Operations and Rush are more or less this, Operations has people charging into new territories as they open up while defenders retreat need to set up again, and Rush does the same thing except you're arming comm stations to blow up I suppose the only real distinct difference is that Operations has entire groups of soldiers doing war cries when charging and has a narrator, while Rush doesn't and has altered frontlines to accommodate the mode
Not nearly enough Frederick Bishop praise in these comments. I know the other stories are great, but in my eyes Frederick Bishop is perhaps the greatest character to grace a battlefield campaign
Ya know with bf1 they got very accurate with many things for a war that filter tried to burn away while bf5 was so badly made and run and it's the most documented war in known history
Just as a heads up, you said you believe Avanti Savoia took place during the Battle of Vittorio Veneto, and it's true, the multiplayer mode Operations directly clarifies as such in Iron Walls campaign and goes over what might've happened if the Austro Hungarians won if that team wins It's a small thing but i like the speculative history that Operations did, some of it was appropriately pointless like clarifying that even if the Meuse Argonne Offensive failed Germanys defeat was still assured by that point eventually, or how the Russian civil war would've stopped in its tracks if the battle over Tsaritsyn had the Reds fail, but I always did wonder if there any other counterparts to be made as to what would've happened in Germany really did succeed with the German Spring Offensive or if the Gallipoli campaign went according to plan, i'm no history buff so I can't fathom much speculation on the subject
this comment is to address the "Friends in high places" being fiction I think not I think it is a mixed story between the arizona balloon buster Frank Luke Jr. who was known to not listen to superiors and would even fly his plane without orders on occassion who became famous for his unique knack for destroying observation balloons of which in a 17 day period between september 12 to the 29th he took down 14 and John Theodore Cuthbert Moore-Brabazon Who Pioneered Aerial Photography for reconnaissance purposes and became famous for flying a plane upside down for higher quality more "top down" pictures although the truth of this fact is debated.
Ottomans didn't have any flamethrowers in ww1. I totally understand that it exists in multiplayer but they shouldn't have added it for the campaign for Gallipoli.
Great content as always retro battlefield is way better than call of duty world wars have you busted or reacted to call of duty world of war or call of duty world war 2 yet retro?? 😊
BF1 really captured the feel of the war, served in a way that, while still fantastical, is filled with accurate little details and emotions that really lands you in the shoes of those you play as. I'd argue it's the last great Battlefield, with passion behind the game that you can really feel as you play.
This is the last great BF game, or for that matter, the last BF game made with most of the original developers. After this game, it's all downhill. By the by...great work on this content.
Lesser known fact that even germany has not wanted to admit at the time, Woman in the German army were in the military in the trenches as medical staff. A "nomads land medic" Was a sub part when the time was needed. Their job was to grab wounded from nomads land during a battlefield attack or more commonly just after a attack of both sides during rest time. I know this becuse my great great grandmother was alive and was in the german army on the western front from 1914 to 1918 in the red cross. She be in the hospitals during the Spanish influenza virus from 1918-1923. She was stationed near the village of Longueval, then later between combles and grinchy. Those were the times of the war she was in the front lines in combat. Sence you know history, maybe you can place this Time line?
Could you maybe check out Izonso because it is another ww1 game, and I am curious about its accuracy. Also I just recently fou d your channel and love your content!
damn been waiting.. pretty cool. happy 4 this. wait maybe try SE games. more so SE5 because its 'better'. but its somewhat repetitive and long campaigns
The history in all the missions is poor. But the Gallipoli one is just insultingly bad. Giving Helles to the ANZACs when they were nowhere near it. Helles also looks nothing like it does in the game. The geography is almost completely made up. I've been there and walked the ground. Still puzzling over where these mountain ranges came from
I agree, if they are going to put Gallipoli then do it right. The soldiers have brodies helmet even though that didn’t ended until 1916 same with ottomans who have German steel helmets. Also Fredrick bishop is good character I wish his model was more historically accurate. He has rain cape on and also and Italian bandolier.
@J35ang31 you're spot on about the rain cape, and the helmets. But the bandolier is a British 1903 pattern leather equipment - used by lots of Territorial and second line units into the first world war, until they got better kit Also, there is no cliff at the point the SS River Clyde beaches. There is a crag/gentle clift to it's left flank, but not right in front of it. It's a gentle slop all the way towards Alcitepe/Krithia
@@CrichtonNo5 look up the character model for Fredrick bishop he does have the British ammo bandolier but he is also wearing the Italian ammo bandolier. But I agree with the additional information.
“He never got older, and yet here I am still. Who decides such things?”
Such a good line from Avanti Savoia.
Sounds like a play on "they shall not grow old, as we that are left grow old"
Might be a good line, albeit the mission itself is still absolute Bullshit
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@@wolfsruhmhuuh? The mission is amazing
@@pokrez.1853 The missions are above average at best, although I have to say the storytelling is really great considering it's just 2-4 little missions packed together. But I might be spoiled from playing, even making custom missions in ArmA III and only recently I played the (almost) all of the Battlefields so I might have a different view on what is considered a good mission
The best Battlefield in the entitre series, when it comes to looks, the feels, and the immersion of being in the battle. God I love it so much, still playing with the bois.
If Battlefield 1 is so good then why hasn't there been a Battlefield 2? (BF2 still hasn't been topped by the way)
@@queuedjar4578 it will be called "Battlefield 1 2"
@@queuedjar4578because why remake something that doesn't need remaking?
The worst depiction of ww1 of all media. Still fun game
This is the number one thing any historical analysis misses when talking about bf1/games in general. There are many games that offer far more accuracy in regards to ww1 compared to bf1. But these games lack the visuals, sounds, effects, etc, that bf1 has. So despite the many nonsensical aspects of bf1, it actually feels like ww1 way more compared to games that are more accurate.
I am quite sure the bombers that assault the German fortress are the Caproni Ca. 5, which were used by the Italians and the Americans in WW1 but not the Royal Flying Corps 🙈
They do look like Ca. 5s but with the level of historycal acuracy at first glance they also look a lot like gotha GVs, that were made by the Germans... I hope you are rigth but considering EAs lack of attention...
They look like a sort of mash up between the Ca. 5s and the Vickers Vimy, an aircraft used in limited amounts by the RFC in the very end of the war. The only problem is the tail, where the production model Vimys have 2 horizontal stabilizers, but some pre production models had the one stabilizer, (which matches more with the bombers in game)
They are, indeed, Caproni Ca.5s.
The reason for this is the Caproni Ca. 5 was the British faction bomber on release of Battlefield 1 and it wasn't until Battlefield 1's DLC expansion, Apocalypse, that the British faction got the Airco DH.10 as their main bomber. Campaign wasn't changed, so that's why you see the Caproni Ca. 5 being used.
That's a shame DICE didn't bring a proper campaign to the French army .. but it's still stand as the best battlefield game
I know people tend to prefer Mud and Blood, but Avanti Savoia has a special place in my heart with Luca and Matteo's story.
I really wish that war story got more work out into it. It has so much potential. It really sucks that it was the shortest set of missions.
Only issue is how unbelievable the gameplay is and how we don’t know Matteo outside of a 5 second cutscene.
With mud and blood, you get somewhat of a connection with the whole tank crew. Especially your character, Townsend and McManus
For me the best chapter is the intro.
I absolutely HATED the part where you shoot down the Austrian bombers, it's so painfully difficult for me, and quite annoying!
@Acoustic_MelonYT Sounds like a skill issue.
Shame you didn't do the intro mission with the Harlem Hellfighters
I was kinda bummed about that too because that opening slaps when it talks about how you're not expected to survive.
Yeah not showing storm of steel is a crime.
Yup agreed
You know when devs say “passion project” in their reveal events or what have you? And we just roll our eyes thinking “marketing jargon”? Well, when DICE say bf1 was a passion project, they werent joking. This game just oozes passion. Not a single detail was left off. From pre battle speeches to how mud accumulating on your gun, you can really tell how passionate these guys were.
They were so passionate about the game they put post war guns and PROP GUNS FROM FILMS I REPEAT THE VILLAR PEROSA IS FROM A GODDAMN FILM in the game
@@taistelusammakko5088They hired a lot of historical advisors for the game who agreed that including these non-historical weapons was the best idea. It's a video game, not an academic source.
@@taistelusammakko5088 the villar perosa was literally made in 1914 dude
@@taistelusammakko5088 because at the end of the day this is still a AAA main line game made to appeal to mass audiences. They got the best of both worlds by staying authentic to the time period but still implementing things that were around at the general time period.
- The Webley was the standard revolver sidearm of the British military but it wasn't a general "must have or you get court marshaled" for the officer corp. Back during WWI, it is still a open field for officers to pick what sidearm they wanted to bring as a personal defense weaponry into battle as they want as long as it went pass their own officers as sidearms, back then, were still paid using your own pockets thus you're free to carry what pistol you want into battle. In fact, the general British troop didn't even scorn at the Mauser C96s because soo many British officer would actually love it and use it extensively due to it being 10 rounds instead of the regular 6 which was extremely vital when it comes to trench warfare.
- The chivalry code in the air is absolutely correct. However, the color on the plane thing, not really as that only happened for the German side and especially for the Red Baron's platoon, the Jagdgeschwader I which was named as the "Flying Circus" or "Richthofen's Circus" cuz they're the only squadron in the entire field to have colorful planes and due to them often always staying in set up tents, they look like a bunch of circus performers. The whole color thing was only for Richthofen's unit whereas the other JGs don't have this criteria. Also, the bomber could be the Caudron G.4 which is both a twin-boom design and also, twin-engined and used as a bomber and recon plane by the the French air force, the "Service Aeronautique"
- The Villar-Perosa was a bitch of a gun to use and despite the Arditi liking it alot, they too realized the limitations that with two guns stuck together, they burn thru ammo quicker and with that, they now have to carry even more ammo which defeats their purpose. Not only that, there's no effective way of aiming it which, again, defeats the purpose of a gun so they decided to ask around and see what company has a solution and two companies came up with effectively the same solution, adding stock to the gun but this time, splitting the Villar-Perosa into two guns instead of one and that spawned the OVP and the legendary Beretta M1918 which was also used in the mission. The OVP would see limited use whereas the Beretta saw more usage by the Arditi and they loved it alot. The M1918 would go on to serve the Italian military as late as the fall of Italy in 1945.
Wangan Midnight and WW1 enjoyer, absolute chad
Winston Churchill famously used a Mauser C96 as his own personal sidearm which he really liked it!
The Villar Perosa depicted in BF1 was entirely fictionalized based from inaccurate depictions in movies. The real one had a bipod and spade grips instead of a pistol grip and front grip.
Funny that UA-cam should recommend this to me today. I was looking through my great grandfather’s old stuff on the weekend and found a map that he had done of northern France in October 1918 (he has a note saying it was the last of the war). It’s an ordinance survey around Licques and Colembert (and surrounding areas). It shows trenches, gun emplacements, aa equipment, destroyed houses etc. it’s a fascinating piece of history and I hope to convince my mum to let me donate it to a museum/war memorial as it shouldn’t be left to rot in an old suitcase.
it is possible to steal the FT-17, as the driver spawns out of the vehicle
not sure if youre talking about the tank mission or the arabian one, but its true for both
@@dominiklehn2866 talking about both, and it's funny ngl to have two tanks in the tank mission
@@MrSnowmanFR it is lol. Like... I've already gone loud, I could have just used my own heavy tank right over there for this but no, I had to steal this tractor with a gun
@@MrSnowmanFR I've even seen one youtuber do the arabian stealth mission in the tank. They didn't see moving tank that was 5 meters in front of them and driving straight at them
@@radioactiveassassin5218that’s amazing lmao
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The protrusions are the Grouser Spud that was affixed to every fourth or sixth track link. You can see them sometimes in old photos.
The size is slightly exaggerated, but it basically just exists to give the tracks some extra traction and also slightly decrease ground pressure. Very useful in muddy conditions.
Battlefield 1 to this day is my gold standard for a historically accurate game. The places, equipment, operations and themes are rooted in reality even if they didn't directly exist while the gameplay characters and missions are fantastical and exaggerated to make it engaging. The most impressive part to me is how good they incorporated historically accuracy into the multiplayer of the game and for players truly interested in history they have included an extensive codex that has tons of highly accurate information.
Playing battlefield 1 won't make you particularly knowledgeable about WW1, but it can easily make you more than interested enough to go out of your way to end up learning tons.
Yeah watch frosty's one video
@Teaman144 yes I've seen it, I'm not surprised at all that it has historical inaccuracies but my opinion in unchanged, what is communicated overall is more powerful than a inaccurate details, you can argue pedantics all day about if someone's leather strap is historically accurate or you can accept some stylistic choice made for most of the time gameplay purposes. Of course Germans didn't have many if any tanks in ww1 but it would be a lot less of a battlefield game withoht them
@canadaboy2503 Dude.... they literally have weapons in the game that were never actually produced, ones that never saw service, completely inaccurate equipment, etc.
They weren't historically accurate at all.
Was it a fun game? Kinda. Would've been better without the variation system for weapons in my opinion.
I always love going through the missions, finding the codexs and reading everything on it. It shows how Dice actually did research on world war 1. I wished they did the same for Battlefield 5
I absolutely love your Style of Video and Commentary
Friends in High Places is my favorite war story of the game. Growing up in southern Denmark, very near to the Zeppelin Hangars build by the German Empire when that part was still German, I grew up with stories of British air raids against it, and WW1 aviation in general.
Thank you for a great video, I am looking forward for more.
Really appreciate the point you're making at the end of the Arditi section about the war as a whol. Would have loved to have seen the German and Austro-Hungarian sides represented for that reason!
One of the only downsides of the campaigns in my opinion. The opening speeches of the operations game mode for the Germans and Austro Hungarians are amazing.
Ah yes my favourite the germans Sending the ottomans A french tank that they don't even have reliable ammo.Four
It feels illegal to be this early. But hell yeah! I absolutely loved your video of BFV. And this video is no exception.
Keep up the amazing work, and I'm excited to see the next video you'll come out with!
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The track extensions on the Mark V tank are called "spuds," and were used as a way to increase the tread width for better grip in muddy conditions. They were implemented on Mark II's and III's, but phased out from IV's and V's, as they had little impact on performance. Their inclusion on Big Bess is likely just a design choice.
Fun fact: the Germans made their own version in WW2 called Ostketten (East Tracks) to tackle the Spring muds on the Eastern Front.
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These are Caproni Ca.5s.
The reason for this is the Caproni Ca. 5 was the British faction bomber on release of Battlefield 1 and it wasn't until Battlefield 1's DLC expansion, Apocalypse, that the British faction got the Airco DH.10 as their main bomber. Campaign wasn't changed, so that's why you see the Caproni Ca. 5 being used.
I went back to this game a few days ago and I don’t know why I stopped playing. I love this game, it’s half of why I’m a history buff now, the other half being Sabaton. There will never be another FPS game as good as Battlefield 1.
I wouldn't say it was that good, but it was quite alot of fun, and they did what no one else could at the time, even today cod hasn't tried a ww1 game
cool thing about BF1 campaign is that every one of them is like the introduction of the game mechanics and map for the multiplayer (except the pigeon of course), pretty much like this year MW3 but better
You can call an artillery strike with a pigeon if you have the right loadout in multiplayer.
Lol watched your BFV video for the first time yesterday, and now this drops, nice
BF 1 is such a gem, what a shame that they dropped the ball so hard with BF V. I really wished for a WWII game that captured the athmosphere and stories of the war as great as BF 1 did.
Bf1 always sucked, it wasnt immersive at all. Its just as inaccurate as bfv but its a fan favorite so people ignore the horrible depiction of ww1
@@taistelusammakko5088 First off being immersive and being accurate are two different things. Second off the game was aiming to capture the feeling of WW1, which in the story modes it did quite well, rather than retelling the story of the history books outright. Complaining that a video game, a non academic source, took liberties to be more fun as a video game isn't highly accurate to the actual WW1 feels like an exercise born of spite more than anything else.
@@NotBavarian if people really want accuracy and realism play Verdun, truth be told this game would be pretty boring if it just stuck to accuracy. With the elements of World War I and its atmosphere makes it my favorite battlefield.
And the worst part is BFV wasn’t awful to play, it just had HORRIBLE marketing. Especially after the pacific update it became an amazing game, and gameplay-wise it’s my favorite. So sad support for it was dropped for the absolute flop that is 2042.
@@taistelusammakko5088if the game was accurate you would sit in wet trenches for weeks then probably die by enemy artillery when a battle happenedx
11:35 I always thought that the reason they chose to use the Mauser was because compared to a Revolver, It in video game terms, Feels Weaker. There was an event in a WW2 Video-Game once where despite different Animations, Sounds and Appearances all of the gear between Allies and Axis, The two were identical stats wise, But the sheer BEEF of the allied gear made their players so much more confident, It scewed things in their favour.
So giving us a "PewPew" Mauser that, while in real life was equally as lethal, But in game terms isnt the "BANG!!! BANG!!!" Of a big-heck off Revolver, It probably to help us feel more out of our Element, smaller gun, less noise, Much more like a freshly recruited driver stumbling through the fog and woods trying not to get shot, Instead of badass action-man hero.
The Runner will forever hold a special place in heart
5:25 I’ll accept the crew of 4 because it’s a short campaign and a crew of 8 would just be full of forgettable people.
And plus if I remember correctly (it has been a while since a played the campaign and I am an American) I believe the crew is supposed to represent the 4 major groups of the UK so English, Welsh, Irish, and Scottish.
Edit: I know the Irish are an Independent country from the UK but at the time we’re still under their control.
Frosty 1 and Reto both upload Battlefield 1 on the same day ?! Must be a good day!
Have you heard of the Isonzo game? If not, it's a ww1 shooter similar to hell let loose, the one I have played is Specifically about the Italian front. I think it is a really fun game and that they portrayed the war and combat on the Italian front really well.
I have and love it! Played Verdun a lot too
@@retro_today I've only played the Italian front so far. I do want to get the other games to see how they play.
I like to think during the Avanti Savoia campaign that the narrator is again an unreliable one. The story is again told in past tense by a narrator whom you play as, though this time to his daughter rather than to the player. There's a part that stuck with me, one where his daughter expresses that she is worried simply hearing the story for the danger he had to face, to which he responds with something like "Don't worry! I was in a... a full suit of armor."
Since you're playing as him while he narrates the story, it seems to imply that the crazy high HP your main character has simply by wearing that metal armor suit is not only a gameplay contrivance but also a narrative tool used to demonstrate the character's intent to "soften" the story for his daughter and not to frighten her. There's also the other exaggerations like the section where he somehow singlehandedly takes down like a dozen planes, survives a direct explosion, and wields a massive machine gun that he fires fully standing and mows down dozens of enemies. In other words, we play the embellished version of historical events that the character invented to make the story easier to tell to his daughter.
Every one fits into the unreliable narrator every one of them is a story, the exceptions being Through the Mud and Blood and Storms of Steel those two are flashbacks or nightmares, which keeps the unreliable narrator aspect but makes it so it's not intentionally being changed.
idk what it is about world War 1 but learning about it usually ends up with a tear nearly shed. what a great game historical inaccuracies and all
Thanks man for representing Canada properly because during war we don't really get represented that much other than the fact that we committed mass war crimes but again than you for mentioning us.
as an aussie, the one thing that pisses me off more is that EA had the balls to put us in fights we weren't in
Thank you my friend! I absolutely like your reactions, insights and so on. Keep up the good work my friend!
Thanks, will do!
I never get to play in a Canadian company in any of the CODs. Some of the most ferocious fighting was done by us and it's a let down not getting to delve into these stories 😢
I saw a comment on another video that said "bf1 is what would have happened if ww1 continued into 1920" which is actually a pretty good description
I know it’s been a bit, but this is probably where the quality started going down that we see everywhere in war games now this was the peak
I loved the story in Battlefield 1, but as a Canadian, to see no Vimmy, Passchendaele, Flanders, or Rivier Somme, the battles that "made" my country made me kind of sad. even in multiplayer, we see no maple leaf graffiti, no maritimers charging trenches with nothing but a knife and bagpipes, and the only poppies are on the geographically nebulous Rupture map. (you know i instalock Somme as soon as it comes into the queue tho lol)
I think because dice want to put more action in the game instead of just staying the trench or charging to a trench.
Some landships did have the little wider splits on the tracks to increase grip and rough terrain mobility, though it wasn’t a widespread modification and quite a rarity
Also, I’m not sure if the A7V could be considered a “well made tank”, good video though! The bomber looks like some Handley-Page or Vickers design
Lets be honest the A7V was a bad tank even for its time, and the Germans knew it. They hardly built any and much preferred to use captured MK V's.
I had tears in my eyes playing this campaign for the first time. It was so good
Storm of steel is still the best intro to a game ive played. Do many of the quotes from this game i think about often
The Runner is my all time favourte battlefield and even war story. So much emotion is shown through Bishop and the naive young digger he was charged with. Sadly that spirit and emotion has been eroded in modern times but i fully believe that that true blue aussies carry on that mateship and comradery with all parties involved in Galipoli, Tobruk and all other fronts across both world wars.
Storm of steel is a story within itself, it represents how the war was for nothing yet changed peoples lives forever, the man wakes up with PTSD remembering the war, remembering how close to the end he was, seeing another german lower his gun showing that the war was meaningless, everyone around them was dead so they had no point in fighting, that is simply how world war 1 ended, a very meaningless war, yet scarring everyone for life. The war was started by austrians and serbians, yet we barely see them fight, it mostly ends up falling into the hands of the British, french, and germans. (And a lot of other countries but im not gonna name them) Anyways, all the chaos happened around them and killed everyone just to leave 2 people alive, meaningless.
Im a bit sad you didnt review the intro of storm of steel
Hey. Quick lesson. Maxims son made the suppressor specifically for his dad who tested his weapons so frequently that he worried about his hearing.
Unfortunately, Maxim would lose his hearing before the suppressor would be completed
I bought this game recently and if you pick it up on steam when it’s on sale it’s like 6$. Totally worth it for the campaign alone. My question is what multiplayer servers are best to join? I know some other BF games are having serious hacker problems and don’t really want to deal with that. Thanks
There’s several Japanese servers still active in the late hours on weekends.
Kinda late reply but I just use the server browser and join any US conquest server, theres like 8 of them that are always full
The tank theread things are called grousers i believe, theyre there to hive the tracks a better grip and allow the tank to climb steeper slopes.
I never thought about Friends in High Places being made up by our character and that is an answer as to why it’s not historically accurate. Brilliant
-It find weird that Edward’s does have c96 pistol instead of Webley revolver and also his jump suit is green and like you said it should be khaki , on top of that Pritchard and McManus are wearing pilot uniforms, and Townsend should be wearing an officers uniform instead of infantry uniform.
-I found it bothering that people making it big deal that Blackburn is an American in the British army, it’s possible Blackburn could be Canadian.
-Also everyone in community wish that there was more war stories involving mostly for the French since they have been fighting ww1 longer then Britain and America.
-The Runner story is great accept for the fact the soldiers uniform is all wrong
-British soldiers have brodie helmet which didn’t come until 1916, they should either a British field cap or a pith helmet. Fredrick Bishop is okay problem he has rain cape on and an Italian bandolier. Ottomans also German steel helmets which didn’t come until 1916.
I don’t like how the made 2 of the biggest contributors in the war dlc, average EA shenanigans
The little grips on the tracks of the MK V were actually used in WWI, and they were for better traction if they got stuck in the mud.
right at the start the protrusions on the tracks are for a higher surface area to distribute weight so the tank doesn't sink as much in the mud
Kinda dissapointed he didn't talk about storm of steel. That was the one where I was most curious about historical accuracy.
22:00 Yes, that is true. The main reason pilots painted their aircrafts is because of The Red Baron, Richthoffen himself: For whatever reasons, one fine day I came upon the idea of having my crate painted glaring red. The result was that absolutely everyone could not help but notice my red bird
I have read his book... He was an exceptional pilot, but a horrible writer.
I’ve never seen the spades on the tracks anywhere other than battlefield. That doesn’t mean they don’t exist, but I’m not sure of the use. I can’t imagine they would give better traction, but they would certainly deter boarding parties.
You need to get your hands on Black Ops 6 to cover the Gulf War. Great video
beautiful work, i subbed
I would love to see a video about the maps and veichles in the multiplayer. Also battlefield 1 was'nt supposed to be 100% acurate. This is a direct quote from the lead game designer "we want to show what ww1 could have been what it could have looked like" thanks to that quote i treat bf1 as a sort of alternate history game.
The warner and swasey scope reticle is wrong too it's supposed to be a very thin cross hair with windage marks on the side instead of the post design.
Good thing I brought my popcorn
Whoa i was just rewatching your battle field V video and decided to check again if you did a Battle field 1 video. Guess im right on time
The tanks are weird in this game as all the tanks are modelled as male tanks but can fire the machine guns as a female when you use them.
The bits sticking off the side of the tracks are called spade grips. They gave the tanks a bit more traction but were prone to bending or breaking and very rarely used although this game has them on every tank.
God being in that tank sounds like torture, I'd rather just be infantry, but even in WW1 that's not much better i guess.
I think it’s worth saying that BF1 does have a codex, which does contain the history for said history buffs but also has to be battlefield.
I also don’t know why people fuss about historical inaccuracy like Frosty 1. If they want accuracy, play something like Izonso that was hand crafted to be as accurate as possible.
I dont know if anyone else would like to see this, but I'd absolutely love to see a defensive and attacking game mode. Where the defenders cant push forward and can only retreat if they need to and fall back to a different capturepoint that becomes visible to each team when the previous point has been captured. And the attackers can just come at them in waves or be sneaky and flank or something like that. I feel like this would be so cool especially if your the last on your team defending and you have to make a last stand that would be so cool. Gajin could do this for alot of maps and reuse the currents ones i was thinking something like urban maps. Id love to see something like this. AND NO CAS. Also side note id love to see more realistic voice lines and reactions to getting hit or if theres a tank in front of you the crew sounds panicked and scream and shout in fear or something and react to being hit like "NO THE GUNNER BEEN KILLED" idk i just feel like that would be so cool and be a breath of fresh air and make the game feel so much more immersive and realistic
Your guy gets panicky when he sees a grenade land in front of him. Also, whenever you level up, other soldiers around you will say something along the lines of "Congrats on the promotion Sergeant!"
Also, have you played conquest assault? It's pretty similar to what you described.
@liammccarthy4654 yes haha. This is what was at the back of my mind when typing this
I dunno if you're aware of this but Operations and Rush are more or less this, Operations has people charging into new territories as they open up while defenders retreat need to set up again, and Rush does the same thing except you're arming comm stations to blow up
I suppose the only real distinct difference is that Operations has entire groups of soldiers doing war cries when charging and has a narrator, while Rush doesn't and has altered frontlines to accommodate the mode
Uhhh, is not that literally Operations?
I assure you that if you go straight over a trench near the frontlines and just run straight in multiplayer you will get shot within 10 seconds lol.
Not nearly enough Frederick Bishop praise in these comments. I know the other stories are great, but in my eyes Frederick Bishop is perhaps the greatest character to grace a battlefield campaign
keep it up great content
and every armored trains in game are the same model, just painted diferently
Ya know with bf1 they got very accurate with many things for a war that filter tried to burn away while bf5 was so badly made and run and it's the most documented war in known history
I wood love to see you do a videos on isonso and hell let loose
12:39 i woud say you can give the weapons a pass because after all it had to be fun for normal players
Just as a heads up, you said you believe Avanti Savoia took place during the Battle of Vittorio Veneto, and it's true, the multiplayer mode Operations directly clarifies as such in Iron Walls campaign and goes over what might've happened if the Austro Hungarians won if that team wins
It's a small thing but i like the speculative history that Operations did, some of it was appropriately pointless like clarifying that even if the Meuse Argonne Offensive failed Germanys defeat was still assured by that point eventually, or how the Russian civil war would've stopped in its tracks if the battle over Tsaritsyn had the Reds fail, but I always did wonder if there any other counterparts to be made as to what would've happened in Germany really did succeed with the German Spring Offensive or if the Gallipoli campaign went according to plan, i'm no history buff so I can't fathom much speculation on the subject
Were there even Australians at Cape Hellas?
We need a Call of duty WW2 next pls
I love your content
looks like another legend video
Hey you did BF1 that's awesome!
thanks for appreciating the indian effort
BF1 truly has the best soundtrack, possibly surpassing Cod4 and COD5
Its a shame that we didn’t have an campaign on the french side
Possibly scaled up Fe2 twos
this comment is to address the "Friends in high places"
being fiction
I think not
I think it is a mixed story between the arizona balloon buster Frank Luke Jr. who was known to not listen to superiors and would even fly his plane without orders on occassion
who became famous for his unique knack for destroying observation balloons of which in a 17 day period between september 12 to the 29th he took down 14
and John Theodore Cuthbert Moore-Brabazon Who Pioneered Aerial Photography for reconnaissance purposes and became famous for flying a plane upside down for higher quality
more "top down" pictures
although the truth of this fact is debated.
Can you do another one with the DLC?
Ottomans didn't have any flamethrowers in ww1. I totally understand that it exists in multiplayer but they shouldn't have added it for the campaign for Gallipoli.
Wasn't the italian campaign located on Monte Grappa?
Mission "Nothing is writte" is the most one sided story of the game and how on gods green earth Ottomans have tanks artilary trains and more
Great content as always retro battlefield is way better than call of duty world wars have you busted or reacted to call of duty world of war or call of duty world war 2 yet retro?? 😊
BF1 really captured the feel of the war, served in a way that, while still fantastical, is filled with accurate little details and emotions that really lands you in the shoes of those you play as. I'd argue it's the last great Battlefield, with passion behind the game that you can really feel as you play.
Shut up
This is the last great BF game, or for that matter, the last BF game made with most of the original developers. After this game, it's all downhill. By the by...great work on this content.
So retro gaming which game do you prefer battlefield 1 or 5 and why??
Am I mistaken or are you thinking this is the the 1918 battle of Cambrai? I am certain it's supposed to be the 1917 battle.
Lesser known fact that even germany has not wanted to admit at the time, Woman in the German army were in the military in the trenches as medical staff.
A "nomads land medic"
Was a sub part when the time was needed.
Their job was to grab wounded from nomads land during a battlefield attack or more commonly just after a attack of both sides during rest time.
I know this becuse my great great grandmother was alive and was in the german army on the western front from 1914 to 1918 in the red cross. She be in the hospitals during the Spanish influenza virus from 1918-1923.
She was stationed near the village of Longueval, then later between combles and grinchy.
Those were the times of the war she was in the front lines in combat.
Sence you know history, maybe you can place this Time line?
is the multiplayer in this game still running or is it overran with bots
Call of duty WW2 next?
honestly i might have to stop watching this, get the game and play the missions myself before coming back - waiting for a sale :D
Could you maybe check out Izonso because it is another ww1 game, and I am curious about its accuracy. Also I just recently fou d your channel and love your content!
damn been waiting.. pretty cool. happy 4 this. wait maybe try SE games. more so SE5 because its 'better'. but its somewhat repetitive and long campaigns
SE?
@@AmyCherryLMAO sniper elite
@@ThundrRblx oh yeah i kinda enjoyed the little ive played of sniper elite 3, though i do love their work in zombie army
Yeeeeeeaaaah we got ww1 baby
please do cod WW2 or world at war next 🙏
The history in all the missions is poor. But the Gallipoli one is just insultingly bad. Giving Helles to the ANZACs when they were nowhere near it. Helles also looks nothing like it does in the game. The geography is almost completely made up. I've been there and walked the ground. Still puzzling over where these mountain ranges came from
I agree, if they are going to put Gallipoli then do it right. The soldiers have brodies helmet even though that didn’t ended until 1916 same with ottomans who have German steel helmets. Also Fredrick bishop is good character I wish his model was more historically accurate. He has rain cape on and also and Italian bandolier.
@J35ang31 you're spot on about the rain cape, and the helmets. But the bandolier is a British 1903 pattern leather equipment - used by lots of Territorial and second line units into the first world war, until they got better kit
Also, there is no cliff at the point the SS River Clyde beaches. There is a crag/gentle clift to it's left flank, but not right in front of it. It's a gentle slop all the way towards Alcitepe/Krithia
@@CrichtonNo5 look up the character model for Fredrick bishop he does have the British ammo bandolier but he is also wearing the Italian ammo bandolier. But I agree with the additional information.
@@J35ang31 fair dos, I must have missed that! I'll go have a look
Attaataa boyyyy what a. Video
What about valiant hearts