This statement is true, however other races will not make this statement because they don't struggle with marriage outside of their race. This statement proves the point of black men's struggle of not choosing their own women
What I’ve experienced is black men meeting me telling me I’m wife material yet realizing they aren’t ready for the type of woman they prayed for. I’ve had a few even cry. I’ve never had one ever decide for you I’ll get ready.
That's deep! What they are actually doing is reflecting their real view of God, particularly in personage of Jesus Christ as their "professed Lord and Saviour" How can he do for you what he's not willing to do to follow Christ? I think this is one of the real benefits of doing it the way The Lord says do it because His timing is perfect in preparation of the heart of the Man you ultimately marry. You will always have to do a little work towards cultivating the relationship but that's life. God's gotchu and as long as you keep Him first and present your body as a living sacrifice until The Lord He'll send who He has prepared for you.
@@LatoyaNickee yes, I actually paused this video to call one of these men. During the time that we haven’t been in contact he said he prayed and asked God could he date me while he got himself together. He said God told him to leave his daughter alone until he was truly ready. In the past I felt he wanted me to take the lead. He asked me about how much he needed to make to take care of me. He asked what did I suggest he do to prepare for marriage. I felt he would be more receptive if he received this information from a man of God who was already successful in some areas he’d like to be in as well. I suggested mentorship and prayer to find a church to commit to. He took some of my advice. He’s been getting mentorship & discipleship by a man of God in church. He’s found a better job and is purchasing a home. This was all great news because one of our challenges was his teen daughter stayed at his one bedroom in the living room every weekend. My only child has always had his own room in my two bedroom apartment. He said his daughters mom wouldn’t be ok if him and I got married and my son who I have full time continued to have his own bedroom while his daigh who already sleeps on a air mattress in his living on the weekends did not. He said he could afford a three bed room though. No matter how big or small our future challenges maybe I figured if I was the woman God made for him I would provide favor. Well during this time of no contact he says he just met another woman. She is 3 months out of 10 year marriage with two kids living with her mother yet he really likes her. All of the baggage she brings to the table he is ready to carry it and doesn’t see the challenges as reasons they can’t work. I believe she’s a sweet good woman of God from what he has shared. However that is not the biggest piece here. The biggest piece is physically she is preference “light skin” “biracial” like he is. We spoken about this in the past. I remember him being so afraid that he couldn’t be a good husband to me. She has shared with him all the ways they may not work. Yet he is providing her with reassurance that they can. Something he never provided for me. I spoke so much life into him. When he was sick sent care packages. He told me no woman has ever said or done the kind things I’ve said to him. We have a blast when we’re together I’m talking about I have him feet in the air passing gas laughing 😂 my son loves him. His daughter loves me. I’ve known him since we were 11 he was my boyfriend then lol. The family we have that know one another love each other. His sister has invited me over to the family events but he always seemed hesitant to bring me along so I never attended. I shared with him all the ways I could support him but none of that matter because although God has me pursuing purity and stewarding my single season I am not his preference therefore he may have been settling for me. You can be a wife just not that persons wife. I had a dream of him once we were getting married he was balling his eyes out. He was crying so hard but not because he loved me so much and because I was so beautiful but because he was operating in fear and didn’t feel ready days later after my dream he came over to cut things off he was so emotional because he wasn’t ready to be the man he felt I deserved. He said he prayed for a woman like me and when I was presented to him he wasn’t ready. One night I was praying about my husband then God had me step out the shower and text him. He said he was in the mist of praying for his wife when I text. He had also been abstinent for 4 years but struggling with lust. He FaceTime me to throw away his toys in the dumpster. Thankfully we were never gintimate 🙌🏿 We went to church and conferences together one that was for deliverance where he gave up his vape. He met my friends and had one on one talk and told them he saw me as wife. Hmmm… This is just a good example of two good people who although could be good for one another we were not in agreement. He simply does not choose me and that’s ok.
This is why we have to take time to work on ourselves. We can't be praying for women and not for God to work on us so that we can be prepared. I've changed my prayer from let me find a wife to let me be a husband. No one will be ready 100% because we are human but we have to be prepared.
As a light skinned black woman, I actually get a really bad “taste in my mouth” when black men I’m dating start showing signs of being colorist. The “oooh your skin, eyes, etc” usually only comes from men who distinctly don’t like or care for dark skinned women. I get concerned because I think about “what is going to roll off his tongue if he gets upset with my dad or my best friends etc.” I refuse to be with anyone who behaves that way. I will always prefer dark skinned men but I won’t tolerate colorism.
@yellowbears1 I should make the clarification that I am biracial. My mom is white and I'm just now hitting the part of the conversation about mixed people.
Women are the only one’s who cry about colorism. Black men have never had an issue of preference as far as skin tone is concerned It’s egregious and simply feminist minded behavior to manipulate weak men
Colorism is a feminist convention that creates black women to play into victimhood instead of self assessing Its not always your skin tone that gets you rejected,it’s probably a bad attitude, you’re probably not attractive to certain men that you date etc Colorism is the modern black womans coping mechanism
It's so interesting hearing men, even good men, give their take on dating and relationships. Its SO clear why men and women, particularly black men and women, are missing one another.
The fact that White, Asian, Hispanic men etc, are not really having these conversations truly highlights that Black men need healing and find self love. Other races of men know that their women aren't perfect, but they still choose them, they still uplift their women. A BLACK man that has a preference of another race of women is only complenting the men of that other race for how they have raised and uplifted their women. Do the work BLACK man; love and be with your Black women regardless. And yes, We black women are saved full of the Holy Spirit, just out here gleaning and waiting.
Culture is why ppl choose w/in their race. BM marry BW at higher % than any other race just like WM marry WW at higher % than any other race. We as ppl yoke based on commonalities more than anything and culture is one. BP have more issues in relationships and w/ each other; therefore, verbalize it more bc at its core, there is no value sys operating in blc culture to keep BP in check. Bc of it we have the highest broken 🏠 than any culture/race and this a reflection in majority blc relationships. This is a not just an issue with BM…it’s a BW issue as well.
This conversation doesn’t really make sense to me because as a Christian you date with the purpose of marriage. Therefore, you look to God to guide you to His expected end. If we are so closed minded because we have a particular type of race in mind, then we have missed the whole purpose of marriage. Moses married an Egyptian and he was criticised for that, when God may have directed him to marry her for a reason. We need to have a bigger perspective. For example, what is the purpose of this union? What’s God’s saying about us coming together…
Right!! Unfortunately the majority of black men date just create SOUL TIES with no real interest in settling down and producing a solid family. I have so many black male relatives who are in their 50's-70's who REFUSE to honor ONE WOMAN. They think it's acceptable to keep playing the field and waste women's time with empty promises. Crazy .......
You eventually choose who you want to date, God just guides you, Moses married her because he found her attractive, yall be overthinking this “God leads me to this person” too much, yes it may happen but you eventually choose who u want to marry
@@wickmaani116 Nobody really knows the reason Moses married an Ethiopian woman because there was no explanation given. But God clearly told Hosea to marry a prostitute in the Old Testament. Some things we’ll never fully understand. Of course we choose who we want to marry. Nobody is saying we don’t. Even if God brings a person in front of you… you still have a choice. But the focus to marry a particular race as a child of God is not a Kingdom mindset. We limit God and ourselves in the end. God has a purpose for His children. A Christian should be lead by God and not by their our own fickle desires. We shouldn’t be lead by race, traditions or culture.
My husband and I have started virtual blind date experiences where single men and women meet up. Intent isn't to match but to expose the like-minded Christian singles different races applied. Wish us success on our first event! Recap will happen on our channel!
Yea some parts of this video was just problematic. As a woman who God has delivered from idolatry of men and romantic relationships, a woman’s desire should be for her husband but her NEED is for JESUS.
My Bishop says, "A woman in her RIGHT MIND doesn't need a man, but she wants one. God created her to be a helpmate to the man, not the other way around". Our culture is the only culture that idolizes romantic relationships) marriage. To be successful is to live a life that's Christ center and content. God had to deliver me from the spirit of idolatry as well. At the beginning of my walk with the Lord I was always made to feel as though I wasn't valuable to God UNLESS I WAS MARRIED. I give God the praise for allowing me get to know Him for myself! Before we were conceived in the womb He knew us and called us by name 🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽 I give him the all the praise and honor. And if marriage is his will for my life, I welcome it. And if not, I will continue to LIVE and priclam the wonderful works of the Lord. 💯
@@salenasheppherd2834your so-called Bishop taught you wrong. You have eligible men telling you how it is and your here talking about some bishop who's most likely PANDERING to you. You wonder why men are not in these so-called churches
I know that woman (Maria Angelina Alexander) If you were born and raised in new York you'd know too, she's my family's Broker for 3yrs till now and a very good one if you asked me. No doubt she is the one that helped you get where you are!!!!
Facts bro. The level of victimhood among black women is egregious It’s all politics and capitalism at best though. Being a black victim raises UA-cam views and garners revenue
Attraction is not a choice for a child. But for a mature responsible adult you put away childish things and cultivate your desires, appetites, and passion which is what you’ll be attracted to. The diet of your eyes, ears, mouth (and other orifices) creates and maintains your attractions. If you can’t control what you’re attracted to, then you’ll struggle being married to one person for a lifetime….
Real women of God see themselves as incomparable to any other woman Women know their value. We are our own unique, we don't compare ourselves to other women.
I believe that this thought is great ideally; however, I feel we must also address the idea that 1. many women face insecurities that stem from 2. being raised within a society that pits other women as competition especially within the arena of romantic partnerships. Also, I believe that this thought process can lead to a devaluation of black women’s realistic view. Which is that according to statistics black women within the dating pool are seen as less desirable & have a less percentage of marriages. I believe that is not a matter of comparison but a matter of acknowledgment + possible hopelessness.
Get out of your delusional mindset that women should not be compared. You compare men all the time, yet don't want to be compared. Huh???? The statement always goes, may the BEST person win.
43:00 The point made here is soo good! I have this conversation often about the choice it seems we have to make as black people to choose between culture/our identity and Kingdom as if Blackness does not have space within the Kingdom.
What's wrong with you both? Are you believers? Revelations 1:6 says we have become kings and priests unto God. As sons of God, they ARE kings by relationship, not thought or action. So yes, I see 3 kings who gave the gift of insight with honesty. Whether you agree with them or not, you know more about how different men think. And I have to say this type of attitude is exactly why the rest of the world looks at the African American community in shock. You relish tearing each other down then wonder why you don't succeed. A house divided cannot stand. I'm so sick of this normalised attitude even among believers. Stop it!
To speak to the conversation taking place at 1:33:00 regarding bi-racial people with one black parent, stems from history (especially within the United States). The one-drop rule has played a huge part in how we view bi-racial people & why I believe we push bi-racial people to acknowledge/ characterize themselves as black. Historically, it wasn’t that they were shunned for choosing to know more about their white side, it was that their white side traditionally wanted nothing to do with them. While the view on bi-racial people has shifted & we can definitely do a better job of acknowledging all aspects of their identity, I believe the blame shouldn’t be placed on Blacks/Christians but instead given a cultural basis.
1:02:37 this is so true on our society now. We want as many options as we can because we want “the best possible” but the truth is that we don’t want to be responsible for contributing to building the ideal relationship. No one is going to be exactly who we want them to be. We have to be mindful of the fact that we play a role in building our partner up
A very common misconception of interracial relationships is that means because you’re in a interracial relationship that you’re no longer pro your race! Yes, there are some who, foolishly, go with the, I don’t see color narrative. I’m 58 years old. I’ve been married for 34 years to a white man. We did not marry each other for “ the culture “ we married each other for each other. Nothing more, nothing less. Do we have aggressive conversations about YP/MP your people/ my people. Absolutely! We are and will always be INDIVIDUALS! It’s just that simple.
Caleb shouldn’t have to explain himself about his dating preferences. A man should stand on business about who he likes and not care the perception of others Shaming a man for his preferences is narcissistic
If we coming from a spiritual point are you asking God if the person you want to approach bare the fruits of the spirit?? Ppl label ppl before getting clarity from God and before getting to really know someone..
Wow , I love hearing these men talk. It’s refreshing because that’s not how the men are thinking or talking about these days. It can be a bit discouraging. It’s great to hear yall talk about the passport bro issues , approaching woman on the same way that I’ve always understood these subjects and hearing a man say it too. Because they be gaslighting me out here lol. When I try to bring up these talk points.
I agree that the church isn't the one that shames mixed people out of our whiteness. It's the culture at large and it carries over into the church. Also, the 🫠 of it comes from the idea of white as a monolith. We have to do the work to explore our family history and explore the origing culture because "white" is a race but it's not a culture. I think we would be less inclined to feel shame if we were talking about being Irish, German, Norwegian, etc. but we don't. We just talk about white.
Great discussion. Now do it with older men (45+) and as suggested bring in the mixed couples. I also get it that he isn't blocking finding his future wife to be limiting it to only Black and Latino women. That woman must be a kingdom woman and she maybe another race not by his choice, but by what God has for him.
I just wanna say soemthing thats been on my mind lately, after realizing i like this guy... Before he's my husband, he'll be a friend. Before he's a friend or anything, he's a human. One of the guys mentioned that instead if looking at people in respects to marriage, they're human first. Get to know eachother individually, then you'll know, with the leading of God, if it's right. I don't care about colour or where you've come from. Above all, do you have the love of God within you, and do you love God more than you'll love me.
Men aren’t designed to be friends with their spouse but rather to be a husband. Modern feminism has watered down biblical theology and gender roles A man is not to be equal to his wife but rather be the dominant figure of the household after Jesus Christ. God told Eve after the fall that her husband would rule over her Abraham was considered Lord to Sarah. The Bible is about patriarchy but Protestants have dismantled that system to make it more palatable to modern women
50:37 Yeah, I think the internet has really done a number on us and “our perspectives” I remember I said something to a friend about a certain demographic and she asked why I thought that and I realized it was a take based on what I’ve seen on the clock app and realized how these apps influence and got off it.. maybe it’s a matter of us really just going out and touching grass LMBO
SURPRISINGLY very pleasant discourse amongst the conversationalists. After a couple of videos, & looking through the content Feed, I decided to SUBSCRIBE to this Channel, & to stay tuned into more. I can see the energy in the video, between the commenters on screen. From the looks of that, to Me (at least), these discussions to engage in as a people in the States (mainly), & ESPECIALLY from a Biblical Standpoint, are the start of what leads to even deeper things that we are having the conversations for: *Healing* *Accountability* *Solutions* *Integrity/Faith* *True Community* *Empowerment* *UNITY* 💯✝️ 🎰
2:30 My bro, regardless of our negative experiences, the fact is: There is no you no me no us without a man & a woman coming together to wed & procreate! Therefore though we may not feel wanted or change ourselves to become wanted, we're always needed otherwise ain't nothing happening without a man somewhere!
I also believe that black fathers have a responsibility to their daughters about speaking life to them in order to build confidence, not from a standard of conceit but loving who they are inside and out.
Why do men approach women and when they see it’s not as easy as they thought .. they immediately give up and label women ?? .. vs seeking internally to u/s you have to get to know her for her and not place her in a box of oh she just like everyone else.. there’s no fair chance in dating as a woman who has boundaries and understand who she is and values that men has feelings and gives alot of grace only to be dropped at a snap of a finger bc there is a challenge for them.
I have found that when I speak to my own black experiences, I have been told I am anti-black. Furthermore, as a young black woman I had to fight against the narrative of "what is beautiful" due to how the men in my family dated. Most of them dated outside of our race. I only heard black is beautiful once I was an adult.
ValUe yourself. Want to be around you, and as it is time, fight off the distractions. Everyone has an agenda, don't let it be you, or for you to be who they say you are, not want you to be because, If you don't have your own agenda, someone told me, They will take you where you don't want to go.
A lot yall herald Elisha because he is the one out of the three that is most agreeable with black womens feminist worldview. Doesn’t make it accurate it just coddles your BS feminist victimhood narrative
Can we get more info on these so called “Black MatchMaker Services” and highlight som names so we can connect with them. ESP the ones that hav more than 2 men vs 50 women on the site 😅
@@BLACKMENDUETALKKevin Samuels was literally a public example of someone who offered private consultations but weren’t willing to pay Negros want to bargain price services that benefit them when other races pay the price without negotiating. It has a lot to do with mishandling finances and not taking stock into assets
@@dcfal817kitten heels was a menace to society and attempted to counsel out of his own brokenness. He should have had several thousand seats on a therapist couch. Yet you know like I do that disrespecting BW pays well 😒
Good convo, but at some points it was giving “ another gospel” …black culture has indeed become a false idol. Other races may not have to discuss these topics bc they simply don’t idolize their race, and simply have a preference. It’s perfectly fine to have a preference and we should leave it at that, but to turn it into a cultural mandate is INDEED an idol. We can’t add or take away from scripture to fit our preferences either. Nevertheless, this was a good conversation to dive into
Beautiful conversation...As Our(black people throughout the Diaspora) perspective about life and love in general is unique throughout the world from being enslaved has done a work on us unique that has never been done to a people group physically mentally and Especially spiritual we have to come at it from the perspective .... Why is this convo unique with us why have we come to this place and what is our solution .. Because I believe that our spiritual end game is our only way out not through politics not through self help or any thing like that.
“If you forget my name, remember my Jesus.” We care too much about self. It's not about us, it's about Him. Edit: I think the talk on Passport bros has been something that's mostly in a redpill space and not a Christian one. However, I know women in the church subscribe to worldly ideals too and that's why men have left the church in droves. I would go overseas for a Christian woman because the western ideology of Christianity is tainted 🤷🏽♂ There's no submission in a woman who feel she don't need you other than for companionship.
The need to be needed IS CAUSED BY WILFUL AND SPIRITUAL BLINDNESS AND LUST FOR THAT WHICH WE GO AFTER IN THE WRONG WAY, AND TO THE WRONG PERson, WHICH ALWAYS LEAVES OUT THE TRUTH AND THE POINT THAT GOD IS ALWAYS WITH AND LOVES US, FOR EVER, AND "FIRST LOVED US." WHO DO WE THINK LOVE IS, AND FROM WHENCE IT COMES. THERE'S NO LOVE WITHOUT GOD. "HE IS LOVE," AND JAMES 1.17.
@@AntoinitaViolette you guys are mishandling what he’s saying. Men are attracted to where they are needed and appreciated. If a woman behaves like she doesn’t need the man, his desire diminishes. In the same way a woman that doesn’t feel paid attention to and cared for by a man loses interest. It’s pretty simple. Don’t over spiritualize what he’s saying. 😃
Caleb was right and this is a dumb conversation because black people again are judging who is really black and who is not. But making escuses of racism, black people against black people..
When it comes down to transactional relationships a lot of people in the west are ignorantly bliss when it comes to transactional monogamy Rather your a poor or rich citizen,marriages are an equivalent exchange of money, energy,attention and time. A man has resources and since of status in exchange for a woman’s commitment to marriage and romance The hypergamy conversation is so undermined and misunderstood. I don’t think the three hosts of BMDT understand they are major outliers in the western dating market Street Hymns is a nationally known battle rapper, public speaker and podcast host in Christendom Elisha is a public speaker and regional photographer Caleb aka Kakashi is a battle street dancer Every young man on this episode has a level of status that makes them marketable in the dating scene Most average men with a 9-5 are taking L’s because in a post marriage society, women date with emotions but they are also choosing based off a since of classism and social networking. It’s never just about love in the end
Speaking of rejection, there’s is this generalized sentiment that black men who engaged with LGBT community in the past but wants a wife is not longer eligible to black women in general. Is it true?
That's a subjective topic. If a woman you're dating can accept your past (assuming you fully disclose it to her before she's waist-deep in emotional investment in the relationship), it's not an issue. The other concern (from my vantage point) that could cause rejection would be the question regarding whether you've truly put that lifestyle behind you and if you've been truly delivered from it, so that your woman is reassured you only have eyes for her. Best of luck, and blessings to you, dear! Hope this helps. 🙏🏾
@@melaninmoxiellc963 I guess my question would be, is being tempted a sign of not being delivered? Every has a past that may be unflattering but I agree it is a subjective topic. Isn’t dating a subjective topic?
@1:02:40 this is literally Matthew 22, where Jesus told the parable where the king invited his own to the wedding party and they didn’t show, so he said bring people off the street.
I married a black man now happily divorced after 9 years. I will honestly say he turned me off from black men and my focus is on going where I’m celebrated not tolerates. 2 of my best friends are successfully married to white men who worship the ground they walk on. No struggle love or half hearted empty promises. They take care of their family and afford their wives the opportunity to be house wives. Meanwhile I struggled and settled for this black man listening to my family . He was a good dad but a bum full of potential that held empty promises of building together. Never again
Dang…watered down. Hmmm that’s not nice to people who already are mixed. Several people in the Bible married outside of their culture and Jesus came through the linage of those people as expressed in the first chapter of Matthew’s.
@@elvishhudson2402 the Bible doesn't say not to marry other races. There were directions for the Israelites not to marry certain people who were idol worshippers because they weren't equally yoked and would lead to them worshipping their spouses false gods. But it had nothing to do with race.
Smh, go read the bible again. From the beginning to the end it's about race. Its our history book. You all skip over the bloodline because most of you just want too. @LissieLoves
@@kimberlycapers1983 No mam you have a very secular worldview of the Bible because when Jesus fulfilled the law of God he made his atonement available for all races, creeds and ethnicities (Matthew 28-18-20) Jesus ministers and changes the life of a samatarian woman in John 4. This was not a cultural norm for Jewish people to do but he transcended racial boundaries to reach wretched people. I urge you to get into a local biblical Christian church and change your perspective on race. Christianity is not mutually exclusive to just blacks or Jewish people but to all who will repent and believe Christ forgives sin and makes crooked men straight
Let us give God the attention. satan only comes at us because he is against God. he has and end. We don't, so "Diversity" should be that the gifts that God has given us ARE ENOUGH, with Him working in us, for us to be one, though it shouldn't be the color of one's skin, the neighbourhood with which you live, nor the car you drive. Not accepting the way God made us is a mistake, for as we do unto others, so we do unto Him, He says. He never planned for His children to judge amongst ourselves, but to judge spiritual with spiritual, that is "Our fellowship is with the Lord," and of there is anything otherwise He will tell us," correct and continue to love us. The WHOLE ROOT OF THIS evil, "IS THE LOVE OF MONEY," STIRRED UP BY satan, through our lists for it, and what it has and can purchase, forgetting about or severely lowering the "Standard," God Who purchased us, and has far greater for us. Should we keep our eyes on Him, He says...precept upon precept...line upon line," He will give us the gifts that make room for us, though we have to keep looking in, and not without. No worries, for anyone who treats God's children badly, period, they are laden with guilt, have a hard time sleeping, pretend not to cry, and so on. Be a king or priest like God says. Heart up. Heart in Him. "Let Us Pray"
Honestly, I don’t think being pro black is compatible with the will of God if it’s His will for you to marry someone outside your race. There are some things that God wants to bring into this world through interracial and intercultural marriages. You see it a lot in business models. Marriage is a ministry with your helpmate for what God has called you both to do, that you couldn’t as a single Christian. Yes attraction factors into that, intimacy, biblical freedom of choice in who you marry (with confirmation from Holy Spirit of course), character, attitude, and the relational aspect that God didn’t create us to be alone unless we or god has chosen that for us. It becomes problematic when it has ulterior motives of vanity. Disdaining your own race because of status you can aggregate, the idolatry in worshipping ideations of skin complexioned and hair texture, or pacifying personal insecurities. It also becomes problematic when you cannot teach a child to respect both parents’s cultural background due to ignorance or negligence. The child is a product of both parents and one side cannot be held to a higher standard than the other. Just my thoughts. ❤🤜🏽🤛🏻
I love this convo! The best way to find you a black woman black men it’s a lot of us black women still single! The other side are taking all of our men ! Big facts 🥴
And they are playing on your desperation to be found and running ramshod through BW. There's over 7 billion people on the planet. Open your mind to the possibility that the one who will love you like no other ISN'T BLACK.
First of all, they’re not your men. And second, they show BW better than they tell them how much they don’t value, love, and respect them. As soon as they can rub two coins together, they never take BW with them.
Just because weive in a certain place, it doesnt mean thats our commUnity. Is God tge Head and in all of the betweens of it. (Amos 3.3) Color doesnt make a community.
Is it the black man’s mindset or what’s behind his mindset that’s truly damaging to the community? I’m only half way through but it seems to me that these men aren’t holding the other half accountable. By a long shot.
Great conversation but the men fail to throw enough accountability on the women... Both black men and women add to the problem. A lot of my friends who are Black men express how Black women treat them being the problem. That could be because a lot of black women are raised by single moms who don't have negative opinion about black men, also a lot of women didn't have a black man who they can trust and look up to growing up. So they say they want a black man but they treat with disdain.
Your virtue signal does not compute. I’m all for Bible but disengaging the culture just to thump the scriptures is disingenuous to the time Your argument has to make logical sense to this post marriage society otherwise your message falls on deaf 👂
We definitely should not exclude or hoist up a race over another because under Grace which we live because Jesus fulfilled the law we could not, Jesus only mentioned one race... the human race. I agree with "Streets" we can't come to a perfect stranger pushing our salary, status, and physical agenda. We should gravitate towards the person we believe/know via discernment who Jesus Christ leads us towards to get to know them with a bend towards moving towards Jesus Christ together. From that point that's when you begin to discuss and set and reset healthy boundaries (spiritual), and healthy expectations (spiritual). So if one or both of us aren't living up to our Godly potential, now we have time to work on that in a nonsexual yet intentional relationship and possibly engaged or betrothed status (should be growth while in pursuit of Godly purpose).
Ok as a future Passport Bro myselft and a man of God i would say biblical relationship wise they got it all wrong. About Passport bros 1st of all Scriptures say husband's love your wife as Christ love the church and willing to die for it. And in return wife Submit unto your own Husband's as the church is unto Christ so since God created the world not just countries like the USA so its their God given right to search the same world God created to find the spouse they're looking for
They made up a bunch of stuff about passport bros. All this nonsense about not healing meanwhile these guys are establishing remote careers, businesses and learning new languages.
Yeah, except a lot of these dudes are traveling to pay for prostitution and exert themselves on women in a not so favorable environment. Furthermore, women abroad have been caught on & they're finessing and murking these dudes because they go over with the American mindset and entitlement.
Yeah you totally nailed it. Many people don’t know about the passport bro movement, they make generalizations. Immigrants can be considered passport bros
Not only does the black American community need to see healthy loving African descent couples who love God the WORLD needs to see it. It is the glory of God on display especially in light of the history of our people. Every ethnicity naturally should be attracted to who they look like. I grew up desiring a white man strongly, and living around all Mexicans and going to a very racially diverse elementary. I actually thought they were better. It took me years to finally see how my heart was prejudiced toward black American men. I don't even think about marrying a white man now, though I would be open, it is a testament of the Lord truly. Convos like this is helpful to many. It is so many layers to how we see ourselves and others.
At the end of day Women choose who they date. So often times Black women are overlooking good black men because they don't know what to be looking for. What you may find attractive in a person may not be marriage material, a lot of adults need mentors helping us choose our partner. There's a reason why you would present your partner to your parents or Pastors was to hear another adult's opinions. We grew up going after what's fun and physically appealing, and we have all over looked red flags. So what's to say we haven't overlooked some green flags in other people.
Some time you might not be approached by. a man is you out with a man already that may or may not be your man or a group of friends instead of just out and about not on your phone alone.
Most men ain’t approaching in these modern times lol. The men that probably do approach these single women are thirsty beta males they don’t desire long term
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Pro Black is not always Pro Jesus.....
Exactly!! We can’t let out race triumphs the Scriptures
@@lifeewrenn Facts
@@lifeewrennfacts!!
YUP. Actually Pro black is lowkey anti-Christ cause most people who are pro black put their pro blackness over being pro Christ.
This statement is true, however other races will not make this statement because they don't struggle with marriage outside of their race. This statement proves the point of black men's struggle of not choosing their own women
What I’ve experienced is black men meeting me telling me I’m wife material yet realizing they aren’t ready for the type of woman they prayed for. I’ve had a few even cry. I’ve never had one ever decide for you I’ll get ready.
I have a very similar testimony
That's deep! What they are actually doing is reflecting their real view of God, particularly in personage of Jesus Christ as their "professed Lord and Saviour" How can he do for you what he's not willing to do to follow Christ?
I think this is one of the real benefits of doing it the way The Lord says do it because His timing is perfect in preparation of the heart of the Man you ultimately marry. You will always have to do a little work towards cultivating the relationship but that's life. God's gotchu and as long as you keep Him first and present your body as a living sacrifice until The Lord He'll send who He has prepared for you.
@@LatoyaNickee yes, I actually paused this video to call one of these men.
During the time that we haven’t been in contact he said he prayed and asked God could he date me while he got himself together. He said God told him to leave his daughter alone until he was truly ready.
In the past I felt he wanted me to take the lead. He asked me about how much he needed to make to take care of me. He asked what did I suggest he do to prepare for marriage.
I felt he would be more receptive if he received this information from a man of God who was already successful in some areas he’d like to be in as well.
I suggested mentorship and prayer to find a church to commit to.
He took some of my advice. He’s been getting mentorship & discipleship by a man of God in church. He’s found a better job and is purchasing a home.
This was all great news because one of our challenges was his teen daughter stayed at his one bedroom in the living room every weekend.
My only child has always had his own room in my two bedroom apartment. He said his daughters mom wouldn’t be ok if him and I got married and my son who I have full time continued to have his own bedroom while his daigh who already sleeps on a air mattress in his living on the weekends did not. He said he could afford a three bed room though.
No matter how big or small our future challenges maybe I figured if I was the woman God made for him I would provide favor.
Well during this time of no contact he says he just met another woman.
She is 3 months out of 10 year marriage with two kids living with her mother yet he really likes her.
All of the baggage she brings to the table he is ready to carry it and doesn’t see the challenges as reasons they can’t work.
I believe she’s a sweet good woman of God from what he has shared.
However that is not the biggest piece here. The biggest piece is physically
she is preference “light skin” “biracial” like he is. We spoken about this in the past.
I remember him being so afraid that he couldn’t be a good husband to me.
She has shared with him all the ways they may not work. Yet he is providing her with reassurance that they can.
Something he never provided for me.
I spoke so much life into him. When he was sick sent care packages. He told me no woman has ever said or done the kind things I’ve said to him. We have a blast when we’re together I’m talking about I have him feet in the air passing gas laughing 😂 my son loves him. His daughter loves me.
I’ve known him since we were 11 he was my boyfriend then lol.
The family we have that know one another love each other. His sister has invited me over to the family events but he always seemed hesitant to bring me along so I never attended.
I shared with him all the ways I could support him but none of that matter because although God has me pursuing purity and stewarding my single season I am not his preference therefore he may have been settling for me.
You can be a wife just not that persons wife. I had a dream of him once we were getting married he was balling his eyes out. He was crying so hard but not because he loved me so much and because I was so beautiful but because he was operating in fear and didn’t feel ready days later after my dream he came over to cut things off he was so emotional because he wasn’t ready to be the man he felt I deserved.
He said he prayed for a woman like me and when I was presented to him he wasn’t ready.
One night I was praying about my husband then God had me step out the shower and text him. He said he was in the mist of praying for his wife when I text.
He had also been abstinent for 4 years but struggling with lust. He FaceTime me to throw away his toys in the dumpster. Thankfully we were never gintimate 🙌🏿
We went to church and conferences together one that was for deliverance where he gave up his vape.
He met my friends and had one on one talk and told them he saw me as wife. Hmmm…
This is just a good example of two good people who although could be good for one another we were not in agreement.
He simply does not choose me and that’s ok.
This is why we have to take time to work on ourselves. We can't be praying for women and not for God to work on us so that we can be prepared. I've changed my prayer from let me find a wife to let me be a husband. No one will be ready 100% because we are human but we have to be prepared.
@@gmoore326 hallelujah 🙌🏿
As a light skinned black woman, I actually get a really bad “taste in my mouth” when black men I’m dating start showing signs of being colorist. The “oooh your skin, eyes, etc” usually only comes from men who distinctly don’t like or care for dark skinned women. I get concerned because I think about “what is going to roll off his tongue if he gets upset with my dad or my best friends etc.” I refuse to be with anyone who behaves that way. I will always prefer dark skinned men but I won’t tolerate colorism.
My daughter is biracial, and she said the same thing 😢
@yellowbears1 I should make the clarification that I am biracial. My mom is white and I'm just now hitting the part of the conversation about mixed people.
Women are the only one’s who cry about colorism. Black men have never had an issue of preference as far as skin tone is concerned
It’s egregious and simply feminist minded behavior to manipulate weak men
Colorism is a feminist convention that creates black women to play into victimhood instead of self assessing
Its not always your skin tone that gets you rejected,it’s probably a bad attitude, you’re probably not attractive to certain men that you date etc
Colorism is the modern black womans coping mechanism
Facts
The gentlemen in all black kept my attention. His intricate way of explaining and projecting his point of view is top tier.
It's so interesting hearing men, even good men, give their take on dating and relationships. Its SO clear why men and women, particularly black men and women, are missing one another.
The fact that White, Asian, Hispanic men etc, are not really having these conversations truly highlights that Black men need healing and find self love. Other races of men know that their women aren't perfect, but they still choose them, they still uplift their women. A BLACK man that has a preference of another race of women is only complenting the men of that other race for how they have raised and uplifted their women. Do the work BLACK man; love and be with your Black women regardless. And yes, We black women are saved full of the Holy Spirit, just out here gleaning and waiting.
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Culture is why ppl choose w/in their race. BM marry BW at higher % than any other race just like WM marry WW at higher % than any other race. We as ppl yoke based on commonalities more than anything and culture is one. BP have more issues in relationships and w/ each other; therefore, verbalize it more bc at its core, there is no value sys operating in blc culture to keep BP in check. Bc of it we have the highest broken 🏠 than any culture/race and this a reflection in majority blc relationships. This is a not just an issue with BM…it’s a BW issue as well.
@@chrysanthemums4963Well worded.. as we say in the streets BIG FACTS😊
All jokes aside, it appears you underestimate how many white men date outside their race 😂
Other races are having these conversations they're just smart enough not to do it in front of the world like we do
Elisha made some great points! I appreciated his ability to call out the bigger issues
Kiyanna ....girl you need to be a regular host with your husband ....YOU ROCK GIRL ....👉👉👉
That part 🙌🏽
Facts !!!
This conversation doesn’t really make sense to me because as a Christian you date with the purpose of marriage. Therefore, you look to God to guide you to His expected end. If we are so closed minded because we have a particular type of race in mind, then we have missed the whole purpose of marriage. Moses married an Egyptian and he was criticised for that, when God may have directed him to marry her for a reason. We need to have a bigger perspective. For example, what is the purpose of this union? What’s God’s saying about us coming together…
Right!! Unfortunately the majority of black men date just create SOUL TIES with no real interest in settling down and producing a solid family. I have so many black male relatives who are in their 50's-70's who REFUSE to honor ONE WOMAN. They think it's acceptable to keep playing the field and waste women's time with empty promises. Crazy .......
You eventually choose who you want to date, God just guides you, Moses married her because he found her attractive, yall be overthinking this “God leads me to this person” too much, yes it may happen but you eventually choose who u want to marry
@@wickmaani116 Nobody really knows the reason Moses married an Ethiopian woman because there was no explanation given. But God clearly told Hosea to marry a prostitute in the Old Testament. Some things we’ll never fully understand.
Of course we choose who we want to marry. Nobody is saying we don’t. Even if God brings a person in front of you… you still have a choice.
But the focus to marry a particular race as a child of God is not a Kingdom mindset. We limit God and ourselves in the end. God has a purpose for His children. A Christian should be lead by God and not by their our own fickle desires. We shouldn’t be lead by race, traditions or culture.
Facts the goal is to not be with someone who is an unbeliever.
@@louisaokolo6807Amen. Yes. Jesus. God is our race, tradition and culture, and is ALL OF OUR HIStory.
My husband and I have started virtual blind date experiences where single men and women meet up. Intent isn't to match but to expose the like-minded Christian singles different races applied. Wish us success on our first event! Recap will happen on our channel!
Love this!!
How do I get in this?
@@kitanna33hey sis! We will have more and will open it up to more states in 2025. Hit the Subscribe so you will know when we host another one
Praying for the Godly Christ-anchored success!
C'mon Sir in the middle you betta PREACH! I pray your serious relationship, that's prayerfully nonsexual and lust free, leads to marriage in Christ!
“If you forget my name, please remember my Jesus.” 🙌🏾🙌🏾
KB line is timeless
@@dcfal817 Right! Had to write that down! So good!
Yea some parts of this video was just problematic. As a woman who God has delivered from idolatry of men and romantic relationships, a woman’s desire should be for her husband but her NEED is for JESUS.
My Bishop says, "A woman in her RIGHT MIND doesn't need a man, but she wants one. God created her to be a helpmate to the man, not the other way around".
Our culture is the only culture that idolizes romantic relationships) marriage. To be successful is to live a life that's Christ center and content. God had to deliver me from the spirit of idolatry as well. At the beginning of my walk with the Lord I was always made to feel as though I wasn't valuable to God UNLESS I WAS MARRIED. I give God the praise for allowing me get to know Him for myself! Before we were conceived in the womb He knew us and called us by name 🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽 I give him the all the praise and honor. And if marriage is his will for my life, I welcome it. And if not, I will continue to LIVE and priclam the wonderful works of the Lord. 💯
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@@salenasheppherd2834amen
What?
@@salenasheppherd2834your so-called Bishop taught you wrong. You have eligible men telling you how it is and your here talking about some bishop who's most likely PANDERING to you. You wonder why men are not in these so-called churches
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It's Maria Angelina Alexander doing she's changed my life. A BROKER- like her is what you need.
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I know that woman (Maria Angelina Alexander)
If you were born and raised in new York you'd know too, she's my family's Broker for 3yrs till now and a very good one if you asked me. No doubt she is the one that helped you get where you are!!!!
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My two cents? Women, in general , particularity here in USA as a whole, need to take accountability too. Not everythings a man’s fault or shortcoming.
Facts bro. The level of victimhood among black women is egregious
It’s all politics and capitalism at best though. Being a black victim raises UA-cam views and garners revenue
Attraction is not a choice for a child. But for a mature responsible adult you put away childish things and cultivate your desires, appetites, and passion which is what you’ll be attracted to. The diet of your eyes, ears, mouth (and other orifices) creates and maintains your attractions. If you can’t control what you’re attracted to, then you’ll struggle being married to one person for a lifetime….
What an excellent interviewer! Honest, forthright but also curious.
Real women of God see themselves as incomparable to any other woman
Women know their value. We are our own unique, we don't compare ourselves to other women.
I believe that this thought is great ideally; however, I feel we must also address the idea that 1. many women face insecurities that stem from 2. being raised within a society that pits other women as competition especially within the arena of romantic partnerships.
Also, I believe that this thought process can lead to a devaluation of black women’s realistic view. Which is that according to statistics black women within the dating pool are seen as less desirable & have a less percentage of marriages. I believe that is not a matter of comparison but a matter of acknowledgment + possible hopelessness.
Get out of your delusional mindset that women should not be compared. You compare men all the time, yet don't want to be compared. Huh???? The statement always goes, may the BEST person win.
43:00 The point made here is soo good! I have this conversation often about the choice it seems we have to make as black people to choose between culture/our identity and Kingdom as if Blackness does not have space within the Kingdom.
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 salute to these 3 kings! Such an honest and insightful conversation
3? 😂
What made them kings when their communities are in ashes.
What's wrong with you both? Are you believers? Revelations 1:6 says we have become kings and priests unto God. As sons of God, they ARE kings by relationship, not thought or action. So yes, I see 3 kings who gave the gift of insight with honesty. Whether you agree with them or not, you know more about how different men think. And I have to say this type of attitude is exactly why the rest of the world looks at the African American community in shock. You relish tearing each other down then wonder why you don't succeed. A house divided cannot stand. I'm so sick of this normalised attitude even among believers. Stop it!
@@tote9441exactly
To speak to the conversation taking place at 1:33:00 regarding bi-racial people with one black parent, stems from history (especially within the United States). The one-drop rule has played a huge part in how we view bi-racial people & why I believe we push bi-racial people to acknowledge/ characterize themselves as black. Historically, it wasn’t that they were shunned for choosing to know more about their white side, it was that their white side traditionally wanted nothing to do with them.
While the view on bi-racial people has shifted & we can definitely do a better job of acknowledging all aspects of their identity, I believe the blame shouldn’t be placed on Blacks/Christians but instead given a cultural basis.
1:02:37 this is so true on our society now. We want as many options as we can because we want “the best possible” but the truth is that we don’t want to be responsible for contributing to building the ideal relationship. No one is going to be exactly who we want them to be. We have to be mindful of the fact that we play a role in building our partner up
This was such a good conversation!
A very common misconception of interracial relationships is that means because you’re in a interracial relationship that you’re no longer pro your race! Yes, there are some who, foolishly, go with the, I don’t see color narrative. I’m 58 years old. I’ve been married for 34 years to a white man. We did not marry each other for “ the culture “ we married each other for each other. Nothing more, nothing less. Do we have aggressive conversations about YP/MP your people/ my people. Absolutely! We are and will always be INDIVIDUALS! It’s just that simple.
So not going to lie.. I didn’t watch it all and skipped the race preference part..but then for Caleb to bring it up later to Clarify was hilarious 😂
Caleb shouldn’t have to explain himself about his dating preferences. A man should stand on business about who he likes and not care the perception of others
Shaming a man for his preferences is narcissistic
“I gotta work to get love” 😭 I hear you black men!
We need marriages that are REAL AND CALLED BY GOD FOR HIS "PURPOSE, PLAN AND PLEASURE." (COLOSSIANS 1.16)
A lot of pro black Christians need that “G Craige Lewis” rebuke
Hahaha....I get the reference 😂
If we coming from a spiritual point are you asking God if the person you want to approach bare the fruits of the spirit?? Ppl label ppl before getting clarity from God and before getting to really know someone..
The blind leading the blind, I am just here for the comments 😅😅😅
Great conversation
Wow , I love hearing these men talk.
It’s refreshing because that’s not how the men are thinking or talking about these days. It can be a bit discouraging.
It’s great to hear yall talk about the passport bro issues , approaching woman on the same way that I’ve always understood these subjects and hearing a man say it too.
Because they be gaslighting me out here lol. When I try to bring up these talk points.
I agree that the church isn't the one that shames mixed people out of our whiteness. It's the culture at large and it carries over into the church. Also, the 🫠 of it comes from the idea of white as a monolith. We have to do the work to explore our family history and explore the origing culture because "white" is a race but it's not a culture. I think we would be less inclined to feel shame if we were talking about being Irish, German, Norwegian, etc. but we don't. We just talk about white.
Great discussion. Now do it with older men (45+) and as suggested bring in the mixed couples. I also get it that he isn't blocking finding his future wife to be limiting it to only Black and Latino women. That woman must be a kingdom woman and she maybe another race not by his choice, but by what God has for him.
This was soo good !! ❤❤❤
I just wanna say soemthing thats been on my mind lately, after realizing i like this guy...
Before he's my husband, he'll be a friend. Before he's a friend or anything, he's a human.
One of the guys mentioned that instead if looking at people in respects to marriage, they're human first. Get to know eachother individually, then you'll know, with the leading of God, if it's right.
I don't care about colour or where you've come from. Above all, do you have the love of God within you, and do you love God more than you'll love me.
Men aren’t designed to be friends with their spouse but rather to be a husband. Modern feminism has watered down biblical theology and gender roles
A man is not to be equal to his wife but rather be the dominant figure of the household after Jesus Christ.
God told Eve after the fall that her husband would rule over her
Abraham was considered Lord to Sarah.
The Bible is about patriarchy but Protestants have dismantled that system to make it more palatable to modern women
If I am Christian FIRST. There is no such thing as Pro Black. We are ALL God's children. Go where you are Celebrated not tolerated
This was a good convo .. considering
50:37 Yeah, I think the internet has really done a number on us and “our perspectives” I remember I said something to a friend about a certain demographic and she asked why I thought that and I realized it was a take based on what I’ve seen on the clock app and realized how these apps influence and got off it.. maybe it’s a matter of us really just going out and touching grass LMBO
SURPRISINGLY very pleasant discourse amongst the conversationalists. After a couple of videos, & looking through the content Feed, I decided to SUBSCRIBE to this Channel, & to stay tuned into more.
I can see the energy in the video, between the commenters on screen. From the looks of that, to Me (at least), these discussions to engage in as a people in the States (mainly), & ESPECIALLY from a Biblical Standpoint, are the start of what leads to even deeper things that we are having the conversations for:
*Healing*
*Accountability*
*Solutions*
*Integrity/Faith*
*True Community*
*Empowerment*
*UNITY*
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Thank you, this Podcast blessed me !
This boy Elisha the baby out the bunch and I’m here for it lol
Love yall boys
Women who have boundaries are labeled as aggressive as well
God is the BEST match maker 🤎
Always great podcast
2:30 My bro, regardless of our negative experiences, the fact is: There is no you no me no us without a man & a woman coming together to wed & procreate! Therefore though we may not feel wanted or change ourselves to become wanted, we're always needed otherwise ain't nothing happening without a man somewhere!
I also believe that black fathers have a responsibility to their daughters about speaking life to them in order to build confidence, not from a standard of conceit but loving who they are inside and out.
Why do men approach women and when they see it’s not as easy as they thought .. they immediately give up and label women ?? .. vs seeking internally to u/s you have to get to know her for her and not place her in a box of oh she just like everyone else.. there’s no fair chance in dating as a woman who has boundaries and understand who she is and values that men has feelings and gives alot of grace only to be dropped at a snap of a finger bc there is a challenge for them.
WhereEver you are, and WhereEver you go, You Have To Face You, and line up with God..
I have found that when I speak to my own black experiences, I have been told I am anti-black. Furthermore, as a young black woman I had to fight against the narrative of "what is beautiful" due to how the men in my family dated. Most of them dated outside of our race. I only heard black is beautiful once I was an adult.
I respect Caleb so much! It’s about Jesus!
Come on DREADZ...Preach!!
The brother in the middle felt salty about another bm have a different perspective about race. Wow lol
So, its interesting hearing little crushes happening Pre-k - 3rd....my children are in this age range. I aint ready!
It's real! We have feelings...and still remember that information, and some follows us in our thoughts, and throughout adult years.
ValUe yourself. Want to be around you, and as it is time, fight off the distractions.
Everyone has an agenda, don't let it be you, or for you to be who they say you are, not want you to be because, If you don't have your own agenda, someone told me, They will take you where you don't want to go.
“And I’m going to respond to every one of ‘em” 💀💀💀
Very interested.. elisha really stood out to me and actually got what Kiyanna was saying, she handled them all very well!
A lot yall herald Elisha because he is the one out of the three that is most agreeable with black womens feminist worldview. Doesn’t make it accurate it just coddles your BS feminist victimhood narrative
Can we get more info on these so called “Black MatchMaker Services” and highlight som names so we can connect with them. ESP the ones that hav more than 2 men vs 50 women on the site 😅
I've offered such a service... I've found that "we" don't invest in that unless it's Walmart priced ... but it's been a while, maybe it has changed.
Mosaic Matchmaking
@@IAmTracyReadynope. same reality 😂
- Street
(at least in my experience)
good service should… COST
@@BLACKMENDUETALKKevin Samuels was literally a public example of someone who offered private consultations but weren’t willing to pay
Negros want to bargain price services that benefit them when other races pay the price without negotiating. It has a lot to do with mishandling finances and not taking stock into assets
@@dcfal817kitten heels was a menace to society and attempted to counsel out of his own brokenness. He should have had several thousand seats on a therapist couch. Yet you know like I do that disrespecting BW pays well 😒
That’s good we have to change the way we see marriage! We have to see it through God eyes❤❤
Good convo, but at some points it was giving “ another gospel” …black culture has indeed become a false idol. Other races may not have to discuss these topics bc they simply don’t idolize their race, and simply have a preference. It’s perfectly fine to have a preference and we should leave it at that, but to turn it into a cultural mandate is INDEED an idol. We can’t add or take away from scripture to fit our preferences either. Nevertheless, this was a good conversation to dive into
Bars
Beautiful conversation...As Our(black people throughout the Diaspora) perspective about life and love in general is unique throughout the world from being enslaved has done a work on us unique that has never been done to a people group physically mentally and Especially spiritual we have to come at it from the perspective .... Why is this convo unique with us why have we come to this place and what is our solution .. Because I believe that our spiritual end game is our only way out not through politics not through self help or any thing like that.
01:30:00 I’m mixed and I’ve experienced my Hispanic side being overshadowed by my black side all of my life.
Most young black people don't value just check the kid to baby daddy/momma ratio.
Fair question. Would bw make such a big deal about bm marrying outside of the community if they themselves had the same opportunity?
BW do have the same opportunity but we were mostly socialized not to do it, and old habits (self-imposed limitations) die hard.
@@melaninmoxiellc963 the stats say otherwise
@@melaninmoxiellc963 the stats say otherwise
@@melaninmoxiellc963 stats say otherwise
@@melaninmoxiellc963 the stats say otherwise
“If you forget my name, remember my Jesus.”
We care too much about self. It's not about us, it's about Him.
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I think the talk on Passport bros has been something that's mostly in a redpill space and not a Christian one. However, I know women in the church subscribe to worldly ideals too and that's why men have left the church in droves. I would go overseas for a Christian woman because the western ideology of Christianity is tainted 🤷🏽♂
There's no submission in a woman who feel she don't need you other than for companionship.
Based
The need to be needed comes from a misunderstanding of purpose just like the need for ultimate autonomy… It is sad
Ehh not a fair comparison. That would also be to say a woman’s desire to be paid attn to by her spouse stems from a dark place as well.
The need to be needed IS CAUSED BY WILFUL AND SPIRITUAL BLINDNESS AND LUST FOR THAT WHICH WE GO AFTER IN THE WRONG WAY, AND TO THE WRONG PERson, WHICH ALWAYS LEAVES OUT THE TRUTH AND THE POINT THAT GOD IS ALWAYS WITH AND LOVES US, FOR EVER, AND "FIRST LOVED US." WHO DO WE THINK LOVE IS, AND FROM WHENCE IT COMES.
THERE'S NO LOVE WITHOUT GOD. "HE IS LOVE," AND JAMES 1.17.
@@AntoinitaViolette you guys are mishandling what he’s saying. Men are attracted to where they are needed and appreciated. If a woman behaves like she doesn’t need the man, his desire diminishes. In the same way a woman that doesn’t feel paid attention to and cared for by a man loses interest. It’s pretty simple. Don’t over spiritualize what he’s saying. 😃
Caleb was right and this is a dumb conversation because black people again are judging who is really black and who is not. But making escuses of racism, black people against black people..
Facts fam. I been adamant in saying the host owes Caleb a apology but folks 🤫
When it comes down to transactional relationships a lot of people in the west are ignorantly bliss when it comes to transactional monogamy
Rather your a poor or rich citizen,marriages are an equivalent exchange of money, energy,attention and time. A man has resources and since of status in exchange for a woman’s commitment to marriage and romance
The hypergamy conversation is so undermined and misunderstood. I don’t think the three hosts of BMDT understand they are major outliers in the western dating market
Street Hymns is a nationally known battle rapper, public speaker and podcast host in Christendom
Elisha is a public speaker and regional photographer
Caleb aka Kakashi is a battle street dancer
Every young man on this episode has a level of status that makes them marketable in the dating scene
Most average men with a 9-5 are taking L’s because in a post marriage society, women date with emotions but they are also choosing based off a since of classism and social networking. It’s never just about love in the end
Speaking of rejection, there’s is this generalized sentiment that black men who engaged with LGBT community in the past but wants a wife is not longer eligible to black women in general. Is it true?
That's a subjective topic. If a woman you're dating can accept your past (assuming you fully disclose it to her before she's waist-deep in emotional investment in the relationship), it's not an issue. The other concern (from my vantage point) that could cause rejection would be the question regarding whether you've truly put that lifestyle behind you and if you've been truly delivered from it, so that your woman is reassured you only have eyes for her. Best of luck, and blessings to you, dear! Hope this helps. 🙏🏾
@@melaninmoxiellc963 I guess my question would be, is being tempted a sign of not being delivered? Every has a past that may be unflattering but I agree it is a subjective topic. Isn’t dating a subjective topic?
Needed discussion.
Definitely needed... a lot of layers to it. Would love to see more conversations like this. Kiyanna did a great job anchoring it.
@1:02:40 this is literally Matthew 22, where Jesus told the parable where the king invited his own to the wedding party and they didn’t show, so he said bring people off the street.
That’s hilarious I be telling my friends that too but I think they take me serious, with that said… “Where The White Women at?!” 😂
I married a black man now happily divorced after 9 years. I will honestly say he turned me off from black men and my focus is on going where I’m celebrated not tolerates. 2 of my best friends are successfully married to white men who worship the ground they walk on. No struggle love or half hearted empty promises. They take care of their family and afford their wives the opportunity to be house wives. Meanwhile I struggled and settled for this black man listening to my family . He was a good dad but a bum full of potential that held empty promises of building together. Never again
Dang…watered down. Hmmm that’s not nice to people who already are mixed. Several people in the Bible married outside of their culture and Jesus came through the linage of those people as expressed in the first chapter of Matthew’s.
Culture is different from race. The same Bible states we should not intermarry.
@@elvishhudson2402 all 🧢 go read the gospels and the great commission in Matthew 28:19-20.
Jesus broke the gap of discrimination
@@elvishhudson2402 the Bible doesn't say not to marry other races. There were directions for the Israelites not to marry certain people who were idol worshippers because they weren't equally yoked and would lead to them worshipping their spouses false gods. But it had nothing to do with race.
Smh, go read the bible again. From the beginning to the end it's about race. Its our history book. You all skip over the bloodline because most of you just want too. @LissieLoves
@@kimberlycapers1983 No mam you have a very secular worldview of the Bible because when Jesus fulfilled the law of God he made his atonement available for all races, creeds and ethnicities (Matthew 28-18-20)
Jesus ministers and changes the life of a samatarian woman in John 4. This was not a cultural norm for Jewish people to do but he transcended racial boundaries to reach wretched people.
I urge you to get into a local biblical Christian church and change your perspective on race. Christianity is not mutually exclusive to just blacks or Jewish people but to all who will repent and believe Christ forgives sin and makes crooked men straight
Let us give God the attention. satan only comes at us because he is against God. he has and end. We don't, so "Diversity" should be that the gifts that God has given us ARE ENOUGH, with Him working in us, for us to be one, though it shouldn't be the color of one's skin, the neighbourhood with which you live, nor the car you drive.
Not accepting the way God made us is a mistake, for as we do unto others, so we do unto Him, He says. He never planned for His children to judge amongst ourselves, but to judge spiritual with spiritual, that is "Our fellowship is with the Lord," and of there is anything otherwise He will tell us," correct and continue to love us.
The WHOLE ROOT OF THIS evil, "IS THE LOVE OF MONEY," STIRRED UP BY satan, through our lists for it, and what it has and can purchase, forgetting about or severely lowering the "Standard," God Who purchased us, and has far greater for us. Should we keep our eyes on Him, He says...precept upon precept...line upon line," He will give us the gifts that make room for us, though we have to keep looking in, and not without. No worries, for anyone who treats God's children badly, period, they are laden with guilt, have a hard time sleeping, pretend not to cry, and so on.
Be a king or priest like God says. Heart up. Heart in Him.
"Let Us Pray"
6:03 my brothers knew the guy in the glasses is ALL 🧢
Ladies, don’t be fooled by men like him.
Please don’t bear false witness on Kakashi,he’s a solid dude
What do you find objectively wrong with anything he’s said?
@@dcfal817 lol he’s a solid dude then why the giggling and eye contact after his remarks??? 😏
@@WilliamsPinch this is argument built around emotions and not logic…NEXT 🚪
Honestly, I don’t think being pro black is compatible with the will of God if it’s His will for you to marry someone outside your race. There are some things that God wants to bring into this world through interracial and intercultural marriages. You see it a lot in business models. Marriage is a ministry with your helpmate for what God has called you both to do, that you couldn’t as a single Christian. Yes attraction factors into that, intimacy, biblical freedom of choice in who you marry (with confirmation from Holy Spirit of course), character, attitude, and the relational aspect that God didn’t create us to be alone unless we or god has chosen that for us.
It becomes problematic when it has ulterior motives of vanity. Disdaining your own race because of status you can aggregate, the idolatry in worshipping ideations of skin complexioned and hair texture, or pacifying personal insecurities. It also becomes problematic when you cannot teach a child to respect both parents’s cultural background due to ignorance or negligence. The child is a product of both parents and one side cannot be held to a higher standard than the other. Just my thoughts. ❤🤜🏽🤛🏻
I love this convo! The best way to find you a black woman black men it’s a lot of us black women still single! The other side are taking all of our men ! Big facts 🥴
That’s because you’re still trying to date black men lol.
And they are playing on your desperation to be found and running ramshod through BW. There's over 7 billion people on the planet. Open your mind to the possibility that the one who will love you like no other ISN'T BLACK.
First of all, they’re not your men. And second, they show BW better than they tell them how much they don’t value, love, and respect them. As soon as they can rub two coins together, they never take BW with them.
Just because weive in a certain place, it doesnt mean thats our commUnity. Is God tge Head and in all of the betweens of it. (Amos 3.3) Color doesnt make a community.
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Kiyanna it’s giving “my race before the gospel” that’s wrong.
We have to stop judging by the covers..
Is it the black man’s mindset or what’s behind his mindset that’s truly damaging to the community? I’m only half way through but it seems to me that these men aren’t holding the other half accountable. By a long shot.
MY GOODNESS.
Great conversation but the men fail to throw enough accountability on the women... Both black men and women add to the problem. A lot of my friends who are Black men express how Black women treat them being the problem. That could be because a lot of black women are raised by single moms who don't have negative opinion about black men, also a lot of women didn't have a black man who they can trust and look up to growing up. So they say they want a black man but they treat with disdain.
Just marry the person God has for you. All you need is to ask God for guidance and not follow your own lil flesh, but have faith on His match making!
Your virtue signal does not compute. I’m all for Bible but disengaging the culture just to thump the scriptures is disingenuous to the time
Your argument has to make logical sense to this post marriage society otherwise your message falls on deaf 👂
In some areas, we shouldn't want to be...tHere.
We definitely should not exclude or hoist up a race over another because under Grace which we live because Jesus fulfilled the law we could not, Jesus only mentioned one race... the human race.
I agree with "Streets" we can't come to a perfect stranger pushing our salary, status, and physical agenda. We should gravitate towards the person we believe/know via discernment who Jesus Christ leads us towards to get to know them with a bend towards moving towards Jesus Christ together. From that point that's when you begin to discuss and set and reset healthy boundaries (spiritual), and healthy expectations (spiritual). So if one or both of us aren't living up to our Godly potential, now we have time to work on that in a nonsexual yet intentional relationship and possibly engaged or betrothed status (should be growth while in pursuit of Godly purpose).
Ok as a future Passport Bro myselft and a man of God i would say biblical relationship wise they got it all wrong. About Passport bros 1st of all Scriptures say husband's love your wife as Christ love the church and willing to die for it. And in return wife Submit unto your own Husband's as the church is unto Christ so since God created the world not just countries like the USA so its their God given right to search the same world God created to find the spouse they're looking for
Oooh we may need you on our podcast....I would love and convo on Passport Bro from a Christian perspective!
They made up a bunch of stuff about passport bros. All this nonsense about not healing meanwhile these guys are establishing remote careers, businesses and learning new languages.
Yeah, except a lot of these dudes are traveling to pay for prostitution and exert themselves on women in a not so favorable environment. Furthermore, women abroad have been caught on & they're finessing and murking these dudes because they go over with the American mindset and entitlement.
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Yeah you totally nailed it. Many people don’t know about the passport bro movement, they make generalizations. Immigrants can be considered passport bros
Not only does the black American community need to see healthy loving African descent couples who love God the WORLD needs to see it. It is the glory of God on display especially in light of the history of our people. Every ethnicity naturally should be attracted to who they look like. I grew up desiring a white man strongly, and living around all Mexicans and going to a very racially diverse elementary. I actually thought they were better. It took me years to finally see how my heart was prejudiced toward black American men. I don't even think about marrying a white man now, though I would be open, it is a testament of the Lord truly. Convos like this is helpful to many. It is so many layers to how we see ourselves and others.
Disgusting how yall put Africans on a pedestal like the whole continent isn’t in disarray
1:28:44 THIS!!
At the end of day Women choose who they date. So often times Black women are overlooking good black men because they don't know what to be looking for. What you may find attractive in a person may not be marriage material, a lot of adults need mentors helping us choose our partner. There's a reason why you would present your partner to your parents or Pastors was to hear another adult's opinions. We grew up going after what's fun and physically appealing, and we have all over looked red flags. So what's to say we haven't overlooked some green flags in other people.
The bit about salary… yep. Too many women these days, like what is good enough for them?
BM collectively are broke and don’t value education so they will be stuck in these black jobs.
Some time you might not be approached by. a man is you out with a man already that may or may not be your man or a group of friends instead of just out and about not on your phone alone.
Most men ain’t approaching in these modern times lol. The men that probably do approach these single women are thirsty beta males they don’t desire long term
We can't talk about family without getting rid of no fault divorce. No fault divorce is anti family