pretty insane how good bucky is tbh. He does crazy damage with all of his kit, gets health and reload from just using abilities (doesn’t even have to hit them), has double cc if you hit hook and uppercut so you can survive dives especially if you have healers, and the best dps ult in the game. Also crazy how his ult makes him kinda both a burst and a constant dps hero since you only have to fulfill a threshold to kill someone and then they just explode.I won’t say overtuned or op because people nowadays will just say skill issue but he’s very strong
Despite all that he doesn't seem OP or oppressive? Big hitbox with 250 HP means he still explodes if anyone looks at him. Ult requires resets to get value, which isn't guaranteed.
All of that is true, and it paints him as broken, because it's totally zoned in on him and not on the current meta which is actually his counters lol. Hela and Hawkeye dominate him from long range since he is not hitscan, not allowing you to play from pressure. Dia+ where they are banned he becomes strong because he's actually allowed to play, still if they play the meta there which is something like Hulk-Ironman or Warlock-Starlord-Mantis then it's pretty unlikely you will have most impact with him, especially if the ironman is good and stays out of your range or if starlord and mantis know how to position. I'm currently Dia2 maining Bucky and honestly I'm so happy I can play him more now, I'd say he's low S high A tier dia+ and low A, high B under. Strong either way, but it's kind of wrong to just focus on a characters strengths and paint him as broken and ignoring the overwhelming presence of counters. Oh not to mention Luna/Mantis ults completely putting your ult in a chokehold and being conditioned to wait both of their ults out and only then you can even think about using it.
@@Icewyy well he is very mediocre rn when other dps like Panther gain shield by diving backlines, and basically get infinite dash when used right. Both are high skill high reward archetypes, but Spidey gets significantly less value. My ideas for buffs are: 1. make his get over here into uppercut combo keep the enemy closer to him mid air, so he can actually follow up with consistent combos. The counter play is still stunning him mid combo, but the risk for him committing to it now means he can combo better. Again, high risk high reward. 2. he shouldn't waste his get over here ability if he misses (or at least if it whiffs make it waste half the cooldown, not all of it). It is one of his most important tools, and it can waste even if you web cluster someone and doesn't register locking/whiffs for no reason. 3. let him recharge his webs, alot of his techs require web clusters, so he should be able to either recharge faster or straight up reload them. (Would be cool because Spidey does actually reload his web cartridge's) 4. He should be able to cancel a web zip with melee to cut it short. For now the only way to cancel web zip and end up near targets is by wasting a web cluster. This would allow Spidey to consistently web zip near opponents without wasting one web cluster, so he can chase down characters better. Since his entire ability to chase down a character involves wasting another ability, with web cluster being the best way to do so if you have no uppercut to dive in with. I am very hesitant to give Spidey shield when landing either 1 or all abilities. Imo he doesn't have this because he is more mobile than other melee characters. But his combos need to be more consistent, and his techs/web clusters need to be relooked at. I can see why the devs only gave him 5 web clusters on a recharge, but with the way we have discovered techs to help Spideys mediocre gameplay, it needs to be relooked at for the sake of helping his techs and combos become more consistent.
It seems like in higher ranks (diamond and above) the healing output is just too high for panther to be viable. I go in maybe chain 3-5 dashes and still don’t kill 1 squishy from my attacks being out healed.
@MrGeorge102 Do you lack reading comprehension? No matter how good you are at BP, at higher ranks the backline reacts pretty much instantly to you and heals the person getting dove so BP gets no kills and has to just run, or even die if he misses a reset. I've been onetricking BP since launch and the only way you get a solo kill on the backline is if you catch someone completely out of position where they can't get healing (which rarely happens in high elo), or if the rest of the team are too slow to react to you so the person getting dove gets no heals. Doesn't help either that Black Panther also has a dash reset hitreg bug which causes your dash to sometimes not even deal damage or consume a vibranium mark. BP is not a threat in high elo and needs a slight tune-up on his damage and for his bugs to be fixed.
@@shunnnnnnnnnnn seems like the only way to out dmg the healers with BP is if you're able to chain your abilities near-instantly on the enemy healers. which sounds obvious but if you miss a mark then you're kinda a sitting duck
You just need to be even faster and go for the support that doesn’t do burst heals I’m in masters lobbies and they lock Loki or Adam just to counter the burst force the cd’s and go back in your cd’s are faster and maybe even trade 1 for 1 or 1 for 2 if it’s a support
@rami9274 A full combo of spear-dash-m1-spear-dash takes about 2-4 seconds to pull off if we're not accounting for the time it takes to find your target after the initial dash, that's plenty of time to spin back around and heal if you have good headphones. The issue just lies in the fact that even about a heal of 50-100hp which most healers can pump out pretty quickly in about 2 seconds, you'll end up out of CDs by the time they're healed and you just have to run at that point. I'd say either his passive changes so he gets a second dash charge on his *first* vibranium mark procced with a cooldown of 8 seconds, or make his animation for his spear throw, ultimate and e dash 50%, especially the ultimate faster and he's pretty much solved
Peni’s spider spawner, either of the flying characters, mantis sleep, Luna snow freeze, squirrel girl/Spider-Man synergy, really any CC/Stun If the enemy team has a peni you’re just cooked as panther unless your team hard focuses the spawner
@@baby_ghostboi8280 idk i throw hand with iron fist and other divers quite often and win but the moment i see a BP im so cooked bro, idk how to deal with him
in what situations should i swap off spiderman, i main him and win majority of my games but from ur videos i see u don’t play him every game and i just wonder when you think you shouldn’t play him
@ yeah for sure, i know he suckz against triple strat, but i also went like 35-5 against triple strat one game so thats why ive been overthinking it. also, tanks aren’t a problem if you flanks
Really wish the game had staling for shots. You just spam with Hela and eventually hit a head shot. There's no skill involved. The "punishment" is that you have to re-load. If your bullets did less damage the more you spammed it would fix the issue and give higher skill expression. Every kill cam I watch is some Hawkeye spamming his shit and missing 10 shots but hitting 1 and killing me.
necros is the type of guy to play psylock just for her outfit
he's Literally me
He’s literally me
He's literally me
He’s literally me
He's literally me.
pretty insane how good bucky is tbh. He does crazy damage with all of his kit, gets health and reload from just using abilities (doesn’t even have to hit them), has double cc if you hit hook and uppercut so you can survive dives especially if you have healers, and the best dps ult in the game. Also crazy how his ult makes him kinda both a burst and a constant dps hero since you only have to fulfill a threshold to kill someone and then they just explode.I won’t say overtuned or op because people nowadays will just say skill issue but he’s very strong
He is insane but you can still shoot him very easily black panther you cant even hit absolutely busted unless they are trash
helas ult is better but his is very good
Despite all that he doesn't seem OP or oppressive? Big hitbox with 250 HP means he still explodes if anyone looks at him. Ult requires resets to get value, which isn't guaranteed.
All of that is true, and it paints him as broken, because it's totally zoned in on him and not on the current meta which is actually his counters lol.
Hela and Hawkeye dominate him from long range since he is not hitscan, not allowing you to play from pressure.
Dia+ where they are banned he becomes strong because he's actually allowed to play, still if they play the meta there which is something like Hulk-Ironman or Warlock-Starlord-Mantis then it's pretty unlikely you will have most impact with him, especially if the ironman is good and stays out of your range or if starlord and mantis know how to position.
I'm currently Dia2 maining Bucky and honestly I'm so happy I can play him more now, I'd say he's low S high A tier dia+ and low A, high B under. Strong either way, but it's kind of wrong to just focus on a characters strengths and paint him as broken and ignoring the overwhelming presence of counters.
Oh not to mention Luna/Mantis ults completely putting your ult in a chokehold and being conditioned to wait both of their ults out and only then you can even think about using it.
He’s absolutely broken if you have a good rocket on your team
Necros with spider man:
I don’t want to play with you anymore
Benched just like Genji
He's just so much work for less value than this heroes
@@grayve4027 spider man needs a buff or 2. Not enough to make everyone play him, but to give the true mains a break
@@UltraBland78 what do u think they should buff in his kit ?? i feel like theres such a fine line where he just becomes absolutely broken
@@Icewyy well he is very mediocre rn when other dps like Panther gain shield by diving backlines, and basically get infinite dash when used right. Both are high skill high reward archetypes, but Spidey gets significantly less value.
My ideas for buffs are:
1. make his get over here into uppercut combo keep the enemy closer to him mid air, so he can actually follow up with consistent combos. The counter play is still stunning him mid combo, but the risk for him committing to it now means he can combo better. Again, high risk high reward.
2. he shouldn't waste his get over here ability if he misses (or at least if it whiffs make it waste half the cooldown, not all of it). It is one of his most important tools, and it can waste even if you web cluster someone and doesn't register locking/whiffs for no reason.
3. let him recharge his webs, alot of his techs require web clusters, so he should be able to either recharge faster or straight up reload them. (Would be cool because Spidey does actually reload his web cartridge's)
4. He should be able to cancel a web zip with melee to cut it short. For now the only way to cancel web zip and end up near targets is by wasting a web cluster. This would allow Spidey to consistently web zip near opponents without wasting one web cluster, so he can chase down characters better. Since his entire ability to chase down a character involves wasting another ability, with web cluster being the best way to do so if you have no uppercut to dive in with.
I am very hesitant to give Spidey shield when landing either 1 or all abilities. Imo he doesn't have this because he is more mobile than other melee characters. But his combos need to be more consistent, and his techs/web clusters need to be relooked at.
I can see why the devs only gave him 5 web clusters on a recharge, but with the way we have discovered techs to help Spideys mediocre gameplay, it needs to be relooked at for the sake of helping his techs and combos become more consistent.
Necros explaining ANYTHING... "its just so fun"
Everyone was shitting on panther early game until now 😂
Winter Soldier Gaming
Honestly necros just feels like a bucky/winter soldier main
Thank you necros I would never touch spidey cause I didn’t think I could deliver but watching you I’ve improved alot thank you ong
What an insanely well done video 🔥
The necros ghost dashes never get old
"We do bucky again" AAAGAIN
It seems like in higher ranks (diamond and above) the healing output is just too high for panther to be viable. I go in maybe chain 3-5 dashes and still don’t kill 1 squishy from my attacks being out healed.
with panther y needs practise, he is not an easy char to master
@MrGeorge102 Do you lack reading comprehension?
No matter how good you are at BP, at higher ranks the backline reacts pretty much instantly to you and heals the person getting dove so BP gets no kills and has to just run, or even die if he misses a reset.
I've been onetricking BP since launch and the only way you get a solo kill on the backline is if you catch someone completely out of position where they can't get healing (which rarely happens in high elo), or if the rest of the team are too slow to react to you so the person getting dove gets no heals.
Doesn't help either that Black Panther also has a dash reset hitreg bug which causes your dash to sometimes not even deal damage or consume a vibranium mark.
BP is not a threat in high elo and needs a slight tune-up on his damage and for his bugs to be fixed.
@@shunnnnnnnnnnn seems like the only way to out dmg the healers with BP is if you're able to chain your abilities near-instantly on the enemy healers. which sounds obvious but if you miss a mark then you're kinda a sitting duck
You just need to be even faster and go for the support that doesn’t do burst heals I’m in masters lobbies and they lock Loki or Adam just to counter the burst force the cd’s and go back in your cd’s are faster and maybe even trade 1 for 1 or 1 for 2 if it’s a support
@rami9274 A full combo of spear-dash-m1-spear-dash takes about 2-4 seconds to pull off if we're not accounting for the time it takes to find your target after the initial dash, that's plenty of time to spin back around and heal if you have good headphones. The issue just lies in the fact that even about a heal of 50-100hp which most healers can pump out pretty quickly in about 2 seconds, you'll end up out of CDs by the time they're healed and you just have to run at that point.
I'd say either his passive changes so he gets a second dash charge on his *first* vibranium mark procced with a cooldown of 8 seconds, or make his animation for his spear throw, ultimate and e dash 50%, especially the ultimate faster and he's pretty much solved
So basically it's 4 minutes of black panther highlights we need more bro 🖤🗿
Thanks for the uploads for when I miss the streams. Hi have a good day
Necros my back is getting sticky
Gonna get sticky
Please ask the hulk if he streams
Fr tho about BP, u can legit just spam all your abilities and kill someone so easily.
Any idea on how to counter Black Panther? Im a cloak n dagger main and everytime i see him he just completely shit on my back line (me included)
Peni’s spider spawner, either of the flying characters, mantis sleep, Luna snow freeze, squirrel girl/Spider-Man synergy, really any CC/Stun
If the enemy team has a peni you’re just cooked as panther unless your team hard focuses the spawner
@ so I have to pray to match making to give me competence team mate?
@@SonNguyen-tf2yn literally yes
@@baby_ghostboi8280 idk i throw hand with iron fist and other divers quite often and win but the moment i see a BP im so cooked bro, idk how to deal with him
Transform into cloak and fly away
Is necros using a performance mod? I noticed His game looks different
Changed up the settings of the game internally using configuration files. There's tutorials on that, but I suggest waiting 2 weeks or season 1.
keep uploading videos bro i love them
in what situations should i swap off spiderman, i main him and win majority of my games but from ur videos i see u don’t play him every game and i just wonder when you think you shouldn’t play him
Spider-Man sucks into triple strategists or any tanky characters. Or you know OP as hell Hella. I hope that helps you out :)
@ yeah for sure, i know he suckz against triple strat, but i also went like 35-5 against triple strat one game so thats why ive been overthinking it. also, tanks aren’t a problem if you flanks
@@bingusggloldepends on rank too, any capable and smart thinking strats will own
@@bingusgglol if the strategist aren't keeping each other alive you fine
7:00 is why I watch this guy
They need to fix the grapple mechanic Its so slow and janky just to jump over a ledge
You promised Spider-Man advanced guide , we still waiting 😢
Anyone else not able to turn off autoswing
whats the sens he uses for bucky?
necros makes every hero s teir
What sense and dpi does he have?
outro song?
I gotta drop panther for now. Love watching the character but im mid as hell with him
I have about 4hr on spidey now finally can consistently jump cancel and secure kills but he’s such a weak hero I could never see playing him in comp
Some would say I finally got the “swing” of things
your aim is the prove why this characters arent S tier lmfao
You're nothing but a fair weather webhead.
you are S-TIER
I thought necros was good didn’t know bro was silver
How is necros so good!?
What setting gives you all the voicelines and stuff in middle as text?
subtitle
When your team is good panther is nc but so hard otherwise
Is Necros the heel of Marvel Rivals? I don’t whether to root for this guy or boo him 😂
0:29 proof Necros fell off
Day 304 edging to Necros
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Day 247 edging to F1REY
These characters have always been broken. If you don’t think so you just aren’t good at playing them
Bucky is so annoying to play against, still rather die to him than Hela or Hawkeye tho.
Nahhh I still think I'm a better Black Panther
Just playing bro, this was some good gameplay
It's funny how the strongest DPS characters in-game (besides Hela) are canonically some of the weakest in the comics - Hawkeye, Bucky, Psylocke 😂
But when you oneshot people with spider while you are moving at light speed you dont say he is S-tier, you say he is so bad and need buffs XD
hell yeah
trying to learn bucky atm. any tips?
#neverbucky #onlypanth
FreeSkin!
S tier pc
スパイダーマン飽きてきたらこの二人使うの同じや😂
やっぱちまちまポークするキャラよりコンボぶち込んでワンピックとる爽快感あるキャラの方が楽しいよな。
Really wish the game had staling for shots. You just spam with Hela and eventually hit a head shot. There's no skill involved. The "punishment" is that you have to re-load. If your bullets did less damage the more you spammed it would fix the issue and give higher skill expression. Every kill cam I watch is some Hawkeye spamming his shit and missing 10 shots but hitting 1 and killing me.
First
Jesus is God