I disagree. Sure, you want sharp scenary pictures, but NOTHING beats an environmental portrait with various degrees of blury background...the background colors are a creamy blur, ther person pops out , and this still offers the viewer a sense or taste of being at that location. IMHO you need both...reach, and fast apertures...nothing more boring than a portrait of a person in front of a glorious background that is flat, everything very sharp...may as well used a Smart Phone.
I actually use this lens for practically everything on my R6 except very low light situations where I need to freeze fast action. This is coming from someone who has shot prime lenses for almost 20 years, with a complete arsenal of primes (EF 24L II, 35L, 50L, 85L 1.2 II, 100L, 135L, and RF 16 2.8, 24 1.8, 35 1.8, 50 1.8, 85 2). With high ISO being so good these days, I rarely use my primes now. Sometimes I miss the extremely shallow DOF look (such as on an 85L), but most of the time they tend to all look the same and do not given any context to where the subject is. It is much more fun composing with a deeper depth of field and while playing with foreground to background ratios on a zoom lens like this. At 105 and f4, you can still manage to get a similar look to primes if you know how to position your subject relative to the foreground and background elements. Also with Lightroom's new lens blur option, you have the option of making your backgrounds even blurrier while still achieving a credible image, which I suspect will only get better with time.
I'm so glad that I bought the 24-105 f4 L as my first ever RF lens back in 2019. It really is a great all-rounder that produces spectacular, tack sharp images. And on the R8 it's a powerhouse. Thanks for this video reminder! I'll definitely throw it into my kit bag the next time I take a trip!
I was engaged to photograph a music festival last summer and was surprised to find i used my 24-105 for the vast majority of it despite having primes with me. And the results were pretty good - the RF version is comfortably better than the EF for people, on my copies anyway.
Being brand new to the mirrorless camera world, I have watched dozens of videos trying to figure out what is what. Your clear explanation and photo examples with settings really made sense to me. I have the STM lens on an R8 now which has been great for learning. Thanks!
This video came at just the right time. My son and I are planning a trip to Great Britain in January so I’ve been trying to figure out how we can pack really light. So having to only bring one lens with me is a great solution!
I agree that 24-105 is a versatile focal length. I usually travel with a G7 X mk iii (24-100mm equivalent) for portability, and I'll carry my RP with 35mm f/1.8 for low light and macros.
Totally agree - very happy with my 24-105 combined with the R6 Mk2. Versatility, size, weight, price, high end glass, weather sealing, ticks all the boxes for me. I am sure some will want the extra F stop but with the improvement in ISO on modern cameras, I think this lens is hard to beat.
Very nice video, James! I own the Canon R8 and I used in the last few months, with Canon RF 24-105mm f4-7.1 (the cheaper little brother). The focal range of 24-105 I found perfect for me as well, in my holidays so far. Just like you, I love to walk on old towns narrow streets, when 24mm (or around) is perfect, and also having the range of more than 75mm whenever you are on a vista point, having no worries about the rich. Even I recently added the Canon EF 70-200mm F4 L (with adaptor), I still take with me in every vacation the RF 24-105mm. I completely agree with you that being in a vacation it is worthless having the stress of changing lenses every time (prime/not prime, faster or not...). I would add also another aspect - taking photos inside, interiors of a church, or cathedrals, when you have low light even during the day. Yes, even at f4 it could have high ISO. But, as you mentioned, modern cameras (and my Canon R8 included) handle very well the high ISO. I love how good the shots be at ISO 6400, 8000 or even more. I end up saying that the Canon RF 24-105 F4 is one of my dream lens, but I don't know if really worth it comparing with mine 24-105mm f4-7.1 taking into consideration the price, as a travel lens, taking memories from holidays, and not making any money with it 😁
@@benedictmoreno4729 The F4 cost a lot more and has an F4 constant aperture which means it is 'faster'. Plus it is an L lens which also means it is top quality lens. The f4-7.1 is a great lower cost option, but the F4 is going to be better in every way except for weight and size.
I was surprised by this lens, initially it was a stop gap until I got the 24-70 or 28-70, but I used it for so many shoots, and for brand lifestyle you want a bit more context so F4 is fine. I have the 50 1.8 which is also so light, it ends up coming with me. It's like a perfect combo. I also like that I can punch in with the 1.6 crop in the camera to get even more reach, which is handy for composition rather than cropping after the fact - the file size is still decent enough for printing. Great video as always James. 🤙
I have to agree about the 24-105. The weight is a winner for sure, and the image quality is crisp. For the extended range, I also pack a 70-200 f4. I have a small day bag that contains it all, and the total weight is not bad. Lug a 24-70 to the zoo for the day on a 90°+ (F) day, and you will have your workout for the week. The same is said for a 70-200 f2.8. I have the f2.8 as well, but you would not want to lug it around on a hot day.
I fully support it, I've thought about it many times, and walked with fixed lenses, but it's not more convenient. And yes, the F4 is a sufficient aperture for travel
Not lens related, but I was pleasantly surprised to see Kotor and Perast in the video. I used to play in a orchestra there at a summer festival for 6 consecutive years (2011-2016) and that's where the romance with my wife started 13 years ago :)....she was also an orchestra member. I haven't skipped bringing my camera even once, so I have tons of images from there, which are some of my favorite memories. The entire bay and the small old towns are a photography gold-mine.
That’s beautiful! Thanks so much for sharing that. I really fell in love with Kotor and the whole region. Amazing people and scenery and as you say, a dream for photographers.
200% Agree with you! I have had the EF 24-105 f/4 L Mark I since May 2009 for my 40D. I bought it for portraits, coverage of network events. Today it is the lens that is glued to my R8, with the RF adapter of course. This combo nails every shot I have ever tried to make, it is amazing. It is not sharp enough for the R7 and Chris Frost showed that on the R7 the RF-S 18-150 has the same IQ. Also, f/4 is not big enough for the R7, that will miss autofocus all the time in lower light. I used the R7 with this lens for portraits on family gatherings and it was pretty frustrating. I used it in Madeira as a travel lens on the R7 and because of the brighter light outside, the combo fares a lot better. Most shots were good with great colors, better than the RF-S 18-150 which is not an L. The FOV of the 24-105 on an APS-C is not good enough on the wide side of things. For travel, I'll therefore tend to use the RF-S 18-150 on the R7 and yes... the RF-S 18-150 is also amazing on the R8 in crop mode. If you do not need the detail... the range of focal lengths is even more amazing! 10 Mpix is like my 40D used to be! And in similar low light conditions, the R8 shots are brighter, with less noise and with better color than on the R7, they look so much better on the R8. So for travel, I've also been using the R8 + RF-S 18-150. Light and convenient! But missed resolution on occasions. Still, I shot the moon sitting on a bar terrace in Madeira this January with that combo and I was amazed with the result. The 24-105 f/4 L beats it on a Full Frame as the R8, but it is a bit more cumbersome to tow around. I loved Rachel's outfit, the hat in particular. My regards to her too!
Thank you so much Philippe! I hope you are well. RFS 18-150 must be an incredible focal range for travel. Glad to hear you are still enjoying the R8, if you get chance to try the 24-105 f4 you might be surprised how light in the hands the combo feels! I will pass on your kind comments to Rachel too, thank you as always!
@@JamesReaderTrying 24-105 on R8, I guess you mean the RF? The EF with adaptor is a bit bigger indeed, I use nothing else for portrait / family occasions.
I think you’re mostly correct. I carry the 24-105 + my semi-pancake 40mm f/2 (I have a Sony A7CR). The reason is for low-light night-time or inside dim churches, museums etc. Also, if I’m in an interesting but dodgy foreign neighborhood for street shooting I like to be inconspicuous. I estimate 75/25 use between zoom/prime on foreign travel. Nice video!
Did you have the EF II or the original one? I'm thinking if it would be more reasonable, if I was to get one, to go with the EF II, because apparently the optics are similar, and since I have the EF 35/2 and the 85/1.4 L EF, I'd rather not remove the EF-RF adapter.
@@classic.cameras Oh thank you that's great info. I am actually mostly considering the EF 24-70/2.8 II (RF 2.8 is beyond my budget) because I need a workhorse lens and I would definitely benefit from that extra stop but dang it if the size/weight and portability of the RF 24-105 isn't appealing. Indeed the adapted 24-105 kind of kills the main benefits of having one, I was just curious if they were similar optically. So I guess I will either go with the EF 24-70 or the RF 24-105, and they're about the same price in my area.
@@classic.cameras thank you, I guess it's gonna be that one then. I do already have the EF 35/2 IS and the EF 85/1.4 L IS so sticking to the EF lenses will make it easier as the adapter can stay on the body permanently.
Bro, i dont even have a canon camera (im on the other side) and yet im watching your videos. Good video. Thank you for sharing and explaining the capabilities of this lens. Hoping you a happy and successful life brother!
Nice video! This was well done, thanks so much! I've been a Canon shooter since the film days (bought my Canon F-1 in 1976). I just upgraded to the R6 MkII from my R6. I've had the RF 24-105 ever since I got it as my kit lens with the EOS R, love it!
These travel advantages and more are exceeded with the Canon rf-s18 - 150 mm (29 - 240 efov) on my 1.6x crop sensor R7. This lens isn't the fastest or widest aperature for sure, but it works extremely well for me in my travels, and is much smaller, lighter and less expensive than the 24 - 105 mm f/4.
100% agreed. If you want less noise and better colors in low light, try it on the R8 in crop mode. You lose detail, but if you don't need the detail, the images this combo takes are very good. Chris Frost has also compared the lenses and his conclusion was to not spend money on the 24-105 if you only have the R7 body. The RF-S is as good. Another strange thing is that the R7 seems to miss less AF in low light with the RF-S on the wide end vs. the 24-105. The RF-S's max aperture is 3.5, marginally more light than an f/4, but in my experience it seems to matter. I would not have expected that. With f/2.8 max aperture the R7 AF works pretty reliably. When using the 28mm f/2.8 pancake on the R7 in Berlin, it nailed every shot. The poor performance of the R7 AF in low light with the 24-105 got me frustrated. James Reader convinced me the R8 is a lot better for portrait and that is why I bought the R8 body. James was VERY right. On the R8, the 24-105 f/4 is transformed... I never took pictures that good with this lens. I never wanted to have 2 bodies, but the R7 did not live up to my broken 40D for family and portrait. The 40D was a lot better. Buying the R7 was a mistake on my part. The R8 was not out yet when I bought the R7. So the choice was: a better lens or the R8. I am happy I chose the R8. The R7 I only use for wildlife, the R8 cannot touch the R7 for wildlife.
I don't own this lens and use a 24-70mm f/2.8 and a 70-200mm f/2.8 when travelling, which I think is convenient enough. Although on my last trip, I missed my 17 tilt-shift (which I had left at home) for buildings. However, I can imagine having this focal range at high image quality in a single lens is extremely convenient for travelling. In broad daylight, an aperture larger is not needed for proper exposure, and as you say, you probably want a bit of a larger depth of field for travel portraits anyway. I cannot definitely confirm that a 24-105 f/4 is the only type of lens you will ever need for travel photography, but I surely agree that it would cover a whole lot of situations. Upvoted the video.
I had the trinity of RF lenses, RF70--200mm f2.8, RF24-70mm f2.8 and the RF14-35mm f4 (instead of the 15-35mm f2.8). Of those lenses, I eventually sold both the 70-200mm and the 24-70mm and got the RF 24-105mm f2.8 instead, as I preferred that focal length (and loved my RF24-105mm f4) but still need the f2.8 for some of my work. I don't really know why the 24-70mm is so popular, as I never really liked it, it's just a weird in-between lens, and I'd rather shoot on a 35mm or 50mm prime if I'm already limiting myself to a fairly average focal length. I sometimes miss the 70-200mm f2.8 but I didn't use it often professionally and my RF 100-400mm generally has me covered if I need the range and is super lightweight as an added bonus.
I have the same trinity and going to Japan. If I am travelling with just carry on, should I take the 24-70, 70-200, or sell them and get the one 24-105 2.8? the 200 is very heavy.
@@RoysanPHD The 24-105mm f2.8 is heavier than the 70-200mm. If it was me trying to keep things as lightweight as possible I would go with the RF 24-105mm f4 and RF 100-400mm. That would be super lightweight and get the job done! (Could even throw in a nifty fifty or one of the f1.8 RF primes as well)
Great shots! Given some of Canon's odd/cool ranges on new lenses, it would be cool if they ever put out a version starting at 22mm or 20mm, all other aspects generally equal.
I'm glad you're so positive about this combination, as I own the Canon r6 II with the Canon RF 24-105 F4 and the Nisi ND. It's very useful and the stabilization is really helpful. However, I'd like a light, small, high-performance AF lens for gimbal video and bokaliciousness. But I'm certainly reluctant to buy the huge F2 version or even the F2.8, which has less range and much more weight and bulk.
@@JamesReaderI totally agree, the photos and composition are great. My wife and I are doing a lot of traveling now that we recently retired and both love photography. I showed her this video to look at the images to get ideas for our photography.
I use the Tamron 28-200 as it is an even more versatile optic, I do miss the 24-28 range a little and it also is unstabilised but I don't find it too much of a compromise, I had and loved the Rf24-105 F4L when I had the Canon RP, I believe it to be better than the Sony equivalent....
I had nowt but a 28mm f/1.7 for six weeks in France and Italy last year and was very happy with that choice. I then used 20-70/4 for two weeks in Aotearoa and found that to be a better fit for my needs than the 24-105/4 that remained at home.
Yes. I'd be very interested in your thoughts about a 24-105 for portraiture. I think it's great for creating a diverse set of images taken on location, especially for editorial use.
Got this on my 80d yes it's crop but I got it used for £300 in brand new condition. It's awesome. I'm glad I purchased it. So versatile you can take any type of shot you want. I use ny canon g7x ii most of the time but when going out on trips i take the 80d strapped with this lens.
Great review James! I’m glad I picked up the RF version back in January for my Mexican trip. Totally worth traveling light. I actually rarely use my 24-70 2.8 RF L and have thought about selling it. I use my 15-35 2.8 RF mostly for indoor shoots and talking heads.
It's weird, but I sold this exact 24-105 F4 lens to buy the 24-70 F2.8 in 2022. Now I'm searching UA-cam to find my next travel lens for my R6m2 and your channel came up. I'm not sure that F4 allows you to safely make extra travel portraits.. you need to reach F2.0-2.5 On the other hand, I traveled with 50mm and 35mm primes, but quality was far from the L series lenses I used for my best shots. ITs tought... I am confused now, even considering Canon PowerShot G7 X to solve my challenge :)
Wow, this is Kotor! Such nostalgia! In 2020 we were there on our honeymoon! A beautiful city in which you want to photograph literally everything! Some of your photos are almost like mine =) By the way, I also use NISI true color, very good variable density filters
I used to think this way. That I must capture this scene and that scene and I need to zoom in here and there. If I’m travelling for fun I like the prime so I’m light and small. Capturing things I can otherwise not worrying. Although if I’m going on a trip that has lots of landscapes etc. I borrow a Nikon 24-200 Z.
Couldn't agree more! I have a 14-140mm MFT lens from Lumix (28-280mm Equivalent) and it is easily my favourite to travel with, I do wish is was a touch wider like 10-100mm, but still don't find myself switching lenses often at all!!
I disagree, making a youtube video about travels with my prime Fujifilm 35mm f 1.4 . But agree you have some good points and your video is 10 times better made than mine so far :) Keep up the good work
I always carry a 24-70 and a 100-400 with me, because a smartphone will never offer a 400mm equivalent. That lens is large and heavy, but as long as I am able to carry it, I will. I agree with you, the background should not be blurred too much. You can always blur it later, but you can't sharpen it later. I think the extreme toneh originated in a time when photographers wanted to show off their fast"professional" lens or eben their medium format camera. Only expensive gear achieved that extreme background blur. Since fake blur was invented, toneh is nothing special any more. Personally I only use f/2.8 when I do not have much light. Otherwise I use f/8 or f/11.
Same path of decision here. 100mm is a great focal length for me because I like to photograph my selective perception of things & people. But I am trying to include more of the environment so I am starting like wider focal lengths too. Quality on 24 MPix is gorgeous and this lens has some pop because of its high contrast. Image sharpness at close focus isn't that great at f/4 but it is some kind of dreamy - @f/8 all these aberrations are gone and in most cases f/8 gives enough depth of field to give more info about the subject. One additional remark about versatility: On an R7 it mutates to an equivalent of ~ 40 ...170mm which allows for moderately wide shots but also allows more tele like focal lengths. Add the RF 1.8/35 and we have an available light lens at reasonable cost, small footprint and low weight including image stabilization and 1:2 reproduction ratio.
For my trip to Taiwan and Japan last year I chose the 24-105 on my Sony A7IV. Combined it with a Tamron 17-28 f/2.8 and Sigma 35 f/1.4 The Sigma was so good at night shots in Japan. Sometimes I thought 24-70 f/2.8 could be better for night walking around shots. I think I didn’t need 105mm often. When I need a zoom a 70-200 or 100-400 would be more handy. For the trip to Laos and Thailand than I swapped the 24-105 with my Tamron 28-75 f/2.8 and also switch from sigma 35 f/1.4 to the Sony 35 f/1.8 for less weight.
Thanks for this video! Great advice for an amateur like me. Went to Ireland last year and forgot my RF18-45, used my 55-210 all the time and missed taking so many pictures especially in the towns we were in, resorted to my phone! Question: Would you recommend this lens(Canon RF24-105mm F4-7.1 is STM Lens) over the Canon RF-S18-150mm F3.5-6.3 Lens
James I actually use the Sigma 17-70mm F2.8-F4 on my Nikon D5500 as my main walk around zoom lens. Its the equivalent of a 24-105mm lens on a crop sensor camera. And Tamron has released a 17-70 F 2.8 for Mirroless camera's in th Sony Mount and I think Nikon Z Mount
Lots of great points here. Heading to Paris next year and plan on R6 with the 24-105 f4 as my main lens and this video helps me feel good about that choice. Will also have the 16 2.8 and 35 1.8. Couldn't help noticing your Luma 18L bag - how do you like it? Was thinking of getting that as my transport bag and maybe a sling for everyday.
I think you’ll love the 24-105! Paris is amazing too. I’m actually really liking the Luma 18. Really great for travel. Love the top access and side access.
Well try to compare RF 24-105mm to RF 14-35mm is a lot better for seascape to get more coast into a frame in my view with a wider lense option. If you are deep in the mountains bring a 100-500m instead with a RF 1*4 or RF *2 extender. It is just not for birds or animals to get a completely different approach to landscape in the mountains. My brief point is you can never get too close for a mountain top if u see some unique weather conditions far away.
Such a nice video again, really love your content! Do you know if the RF 24-105 f4-7.1 STM has similar results regarding sharpness and overall capabilities? (Ofc besides the slower apt ☺️)
Thank you so much! I have yet to try the kit lens but I have heard good things. I’m sure for travel photos you will be more than happy with the results.
Keep ur 24-105 7.1 lense . It's perfect for travel and u will not get extraordinary better looking pictures. Unless u are a paid profesional photographer 📸 yes get the L . If for family and travel no. Lightroom fixes alot these days.
Have this lens with an R8 and heading to Kotor in a few weeks. Need to look at a map and find all the places in this video. Thanks! (Going to bring a 16-28 2.8 for inside photos and a 16mm and 35mm prime for nights, but am sure the 24-105 will be the outside walk around lens)
I’ve owed both EF versions and the RF version on multiple bodies and it’s def ONE of my go to lenses so agree it’s a one and done lens… however I sold it and replaced it with the RF 70-200 F4 and 14-35 F4 and for just a touch more space taken up in the bag I think it’s 💯 worth it for the versatility. I thought 24 was wide but at 14 it really changes the scene to something way different and unique imo. Sure you have the added hassle of changing lenses but for the coverage I. Think it’s worth the extra kit.
Two of my favourite RF lenses. Canon did a great job with those lenses and that’s a great two lens kit. I often think of swapping out my RF 70-200 2.8 for the F4 version as it would probably get more use.
I e owned the II and III Version of the EF 70-200 2.8 and I LOVED those lenses too on my 1Dxii but just the size is such a negative. The RF F4 version is literally the same size as the 14-35 or I think even smaller than the 24-105 or same size why not zoomed. It’s soooo small compared to the longer 2.8 version or EF. You have to see it in your hands and on the body. I’m perfectly happy with the IQ and separation of the F4 esp at 200mm with good background depth that for what I shoot you can hardly tell a difference. Now 85mm at f4 compared to 85mm 1.2 is a whole different story. Or even 50mm 1.2. I have the RF 50mm 1.8 nifty 50 as that middle bridge between the two and it helps keep the kit small compared to an 50/80 1.2 and I still love the images coming out of it plus makes the set up super compact. I’ve debated a 50 or 85mm 1.2 but for the price and bulk it’s just not needed
what lens do you use for your talking head shots? looks like background separation is something like 2.8 or even 1.8 on 35mm? thank you in advance, great shots, great video
I love mine. Half the size and about 1/3 the cost of the 24-105 f/2.8 (which I want but I can’t justify spending $3k for one stop of light while there are still holes in my lens lineup).
24-105 is my default but I very rarely travel without the whole 11-400 range in my camera bag. Sure its heavy but, in Amsterdam for a few days, without an ultra-wide, so many great opportunities would have been lost and the trip slightly spoiled. The same with church interiors throughout Italy. You can't fix these issues in processing
24-105 is fine but I would still add at least one prime. 24/35/50/85 f 1.8 primes are usually light / small-ish and work much better in low light / dark indoor places when f4 just won't cut it. How does this lens compare to RF 24-105mm F2.8 L IS USM Z lens sharpness wise? Equal or is one much better?
The 24-105 f/4 is just fine in low light with the sensor in the R6 MkII or the R8 I have (same sensor). This sensor has a 1.5 stop wider dynamic range than previous gen sensors, almost as good as Sony's BSI sensors. Nobody knows what Canon did to nail this tech feat - except Canon engineers, obviously - so on the R6 Mk II that also boasts IBIS, this f/4 is plenty. Further on resolution, it is not the greatest out there. Resolution and detail is why I'd use a prime for travel, not the aperture. Anything more than 24 Mpix FF pixel density will show its weakness. On the R7 - equivalent to 80+ Mpix FF - it falls apart in the corners of the image, with some pretty bad CA. Note: mine is a EF Mark I version, the RF may be better on CA in the corners. I'd expect the f/2.8 to do better, but I never tested it, so I really don't know. On the 45 Mpix R5, this 24-105 lens may not cut it.
I do agree, the 50 1.8 along with this lens may truly be the best combo. I did bring the 50 on this trip but only used it once or twice for quite niche uses cases. I haven’t had the chance to use both lenses side by side, I have no issues with the sharpness of the 24-105 F4 but the 2.8 version really is one of the sharpest RF lenses I have tried so I would guess it performs a little better. Very big lens though!
I feel so bad. this was my first RF lens shortly after i bought the EOS R in 2019. But i sold it 2 years later... now i'm getting it back with the R5II as kit lens 😅 But i will keep it this time. And i own the RF 24-70 2.8 too. But it was the only way to get the R5II now.
@@JamesReader Thank you James! I appreciate your video. I’m going to Egypt and Turkey next month and your video convinced me to take my RF 24-105 f4! Excellent photos!
"For shooting people..." daym. I just bought this lens to accomodate my 70-200mm. I seldom shoot under f/4 anyways. First of all i prefer contrast bnw art photography, and f/5.6 is the go to for this. And f/4 is great for press photography too.
I still happy with 6D2 and 24-70/4 which has macro capability... anyway it's quite big, so for some situation 40/2.8 pancake is better... 24-105 is almost everything range, but does not solve special needs like interiers, macro, low-light... but not needed in trips
The 24-105 is a good lens, I have, but Canon missed the boat by not making RF18-135mm, They only made the 135mm prime which I also have. Very sharpe lens. It weights a ton.
@@borabora1695 yeah it’s great for video! Super sharp and the lens stabilisation is great. What camera would you use it with? The only negative on the video side is that a lot of the Canon bodies with IBIS will suffer from some corner wobble when shooting below say 24mm.
@@JamesReader I'm with the Fuji now. Never get the FF before. I'm trying to find out it's worth to change for Canon or not 🤔. Canon looks like more.... Universal. Wish they will open bayonet for Sigma and Tamron soon.
@@borabora1695 Fuji is great for travel too! I hope we see the full frame Sigma/Tamron lenses come to RF soon too, hopefully the APSC lenses are the start of that process!
I originally wanted to get the R5 and RF 28-70mm F2 lens, but I noticed on e-infinity that I could get the R5 Mark II with the 24-105mm F4 lens for the same price. I plan to use it as my main lens for event photography and some portraits. Which of the two options would you pick and why?
Hey Christian. That's a tough one, do you shoot any video? If not go for the R5 + 28-70. That's a pretty great one and done setup for everything. Otherwise the R5 MKII with the 24-105 is great but you may need a fast prime for any really low light situations, something like the RF 50 1.8 would be great.
@@JamesReader Appreciate the reply! I do shoot video, but mainly corporate interviews... I'm actually leaning towards the R6 mark ii and 28-70 at the moment. I'm currently using the M50 mark ii so either way it's a huge upgrade for me!
Well, I'm not sure whether you'd also like the Nikon's competitor 24-120mm f4 S lens on the Nikon Z-mount! Some reviews say this lens is even better than the Canon RF 24-105mm f4L lens (that I own too together with my Canon R6 II).
I was going to say this same thing! The tone in your photos is incredible. Are you achieving that in-body or in Lightroom? Would love to know your settings! Thanks so much for this video
@@andreboudreaux2043 thank you Andre! This look is pretty much entirely achieved in Lightroom and a lot of it comes from the tone curve. I plan on making a video soon with a bit of a guide to achieving this look. But in the meantime if you want to email me I can go into more detail regarding the Lightroom settings I used.
The 24-105 range is not enough for most travel, especially not for European cities (but others too). The RF 24-105L f4 is a great lens for travel, but not often enough in most cases. I add the RF 10-20L f4 (or other wide angle zoom) for the cathedrals, beautiful wide interiors, museums, expansive landscapes, cityscapes, seascapes...and what about environmental portraits? F4 is not good enough, and this is true especially for fill flash...daytime flashing suffers from light fall off past 50mm or 85mm so faces could result flat, too dark...and f4 will not often give you the sweet separation between the person and the background. Sure, 80-105mm range at f4 can provide great separation, but you can't often use fill flash, and you'd have to back up to get that environmental portrait feel, and in doing so, you lose separation. I add a fast prime such as the RF 35L f1.4 (or similar)...but a fast 50mm would be good too. I prefer the 35mm for the foodie opportunities. In summary, the best travel kit: RF 24-105L, RF 10-20L and the RF 35L f1.4 (or similar ranges and apertures), plus a reliable Canon flash (430EX III is not too big, but powerful). This is a light weight small kit that can be carried around in a small sling bag.
I was telling my intern the other day. Picking a 24-105f4 over a 24-70f2.8 is a sign of maturity as a photographer. Unless you shoot a ton of indoor low light.
I brought this with my R6II during my vacation in Japan. Weather sealing came in handy since I was practically shooting in the rain in one of our destinations. I love this lens so much that I have the 2 EF versions and the RF. 😅
@@PhilippeDHooghe IQ wise RF is the best but not a significant improvement from Mk2. My copy of the MK1 is quite soft on the long end. Mk2 solved all IQ issues but I like MK1's weight and form factor. MK1 has the slowest AF speed and has audible IS sounds. Mk2 significantly faster and quieter. RF has much faster AF and better overall IS. But in all honesty, I would have stuck with the MK2 if it were not such a chonky lens. 😂
"Why travel hundreds of miles if your just going to blur out..." Great great point! Always appreciate your real world perspective and lens comparisons
I disagree. Sure, you want sharp scenary pictures, but NOTHING beats an environmental portrait with various degrees of blury background...the background colors are a creamy blur, ther person pops out , and this still offers the viewer a sense or taste of being at that location. IMHO you need both...reach, and fast apertures...nothing more boring than a portrait of a person in front of a glorious background that is flat, everything very sharp...may as well used a Smart Phone.
The RF24-105 is a future hall-of-famer 👍👍👍
For sure! 👌
especially the f/2.8 version!
Just bought it. It’s all I needed in Banff 🇨🇦 :)
I actually use this lens for practically everything on my R6 except very low light situations where I need to freeze fast action. This is coming from someone who has shot prime lenses for almost 20 years, with a complete arsenal of primes (EF 24L II, 35L, 50L, 85L 1.2 II, 100L, 135L, and RF 16 2.8, 24 1.8, 35 1.8, 50 1.8, 85 2). With high ISO being so good these days, I rarely use my primes now. Sometimes I miss the extremely shallow DOF look (such as on an 85L), but most of the time they tend to all look the same and do not given any context to where the subject is. It is much more fun composing with a deeper depth of field and while playing with foreground to background ratios on a zoom lens like this. At 105 and f4, you can still manage to get a similar look to primes if you know how to position your subject relative to the foreground and background elements. Also with Lightroom's new lens blur option, you have the option of making your backgrounds even blurrier while still achieving a credible image, which I suspect will only get better with time.
Right on the money!
Nailed it! Totally agree!
I'm so glad that I bought the 24-105 f4 L as my first ever RF lens back in 2019. It really is a great all-rounder that produces spectacular, tack sharp images. And on the R8 it's a powerhouse. Thanks for this video reminder! I'll definitely throw it into my kit bag the next time I take a trip!
Totally agree Jay! Great lens for the R8! Thank you for watching!
I was engaged to photograph a music festival last summer and was surprised to find i used my 24-105 for the vast majority of it despite having primes with me. And the results were pretty good - the RF version is comfortably better than the EF for people, on my copies anyway.
Being brand new to the mirrorless camera world, I have watched dozens of videos trying to figure out what is what. Your clear explanation and photo examples with settings really made sense to me. I have the STM lens on an R8 now which has been great for learning. Thanks!
This video came at just the right time. My son and I are planning a trip to Great Britain in January so I’ve been trying to figure out how we can pack really light. So having to only bring one lens with me is a great solution!
Amazing! I really hope you and your son enjoy your time here in Great Britain! I think you’re bringing the perfect lens.
Love my 24-105. My next trip is the south of Spain. Your vid reassured me this the only I need. Cheers!
Spain is beautiful! I hope you enjoy your travels and capture some amazing memories 📸
I agree that 24-105 is a versatile focal length. I usually travel with a G7 X mk iii (24-100mm equivalent) for portability, and I'll carry my RP with 35mm f/1.8 for low light and macros.
Totally agree - very happy with my 24-105 combined with the R6 Mk2. Versatility, size, weight, price, high end glass, weather sealing, ticks all the boxes for me. I am sure some will want the extra F stop but with the improvement in ISO on modern cameras, I think this lens is hard to beat.
Very nice video, James! I own the Canon R8 and I used in the last few months, with Canon RF 24-105mm f4-7.1 (the cheaper little brother). The focal range of 24-105 I found perfect for me as well, in my holidays so far. Just like you, I love to walk on old towns narrow streets, when 24mm (or around) is perfect, and also having the range of more than 75mm whenever you are on a vista point, having no worries about the rich. Even I recently added the Canon EF 70-200mm F4 L (with adaptor), I still take with me in every vacation the RF 24-105mm. I completely agree with you that being in a vacation it is worthless having the stress of changing lenses every time (prime/not prime, faster or not...).
I would add also another aspect - taking photos inside, interiors of a church, or cathedrals, when you have low light even during the day. Yes, even at f4 it could have high ISO. But, as you mentioned, modern cameras (and my Canon R8 included) handle very well the high ISO. I love how good the shots be at ISO 6400, 8000 or even more.
I end up saying that the Canon RF 24-105 F4 is one of my dream lens, but I don't know if really worth it comparing with mine 24-105mm f4-7.1 taking into consideration the price, as a travel lens, taking memories from holidays, and not making any money with it 😁
Thank you! You have made many great points, I completely agree! I think for travel the 24-105 f4-7.1 is great, no need to upgrade to the F4 version.
What id the difference between the 2?
@@benedictmoreno4729 Difference in price, in quality, or something else?
@@benedictmoreno4729 The F4 cost a lot more and has an F4 constant aperture which means it is 'faster'. Plus it is an L lens which also means it is top quality lens. The f4-7.1 is a great lower cost option, but the F4 is going to be better in every way except for weight and size.
My favourite workhorse lens. Primes are for fun, this lens is incredible for work. Though I did take it to Malaysia on holiday and it was perfect
Couldn’t agree more…the 24-105 f4 is on my camera 90% of the time. Very versatile…
I was surprised by this lens, initially it was a stop gap until I got the 24-70 or 28-70, but I used it for so many shoots, and for brand lifestyle you want a bit more context so F4 is fine. I have the 50 1.8 which is also so light, it ends up coming with me. It's like a perfect combo. I also like that I can punch in with the 1.6 crop in the camera to get even more reach, which is handy for composition rather than cropping after the fact - the file size is still decent enough for printing. Great video as always James. 🤙
Thank you for watching Tony! I actually brought the 50 1.8 along with me too. Perfect combo.
I have to agree about the 24-105. The weight is a winner for sure, and the image quality is crisp. For the extended range, I also pack a 70-200 f4. I have a small day bag that contains it all, and the total weight is not bad. Lug a 24-70 to the zoo for the day on a 90°+ (F) day, and you will have your workout for the week. The same is said for a 70-200 f2.8. I have the f2.8 as well, but you would not want to lug it around on a hot day.
I fully support it, I've thought about it many times, and walked with fixed lenses, but it's not more convenient. And yes, the F4 is a sufficient aperture for travel
Totally agree 👍🏼 but accompanied by a 35mm 1.8 for low light scenarios.
Great combo! I took the 50 1.8 alongside it
Not lens related, but I was pleasantly surprised to see Kotor and Perast in the video.
I used to play in a orchestra there at a summer festival for 6 consecutive years (2011-2016) and that's where the romance with my wife started 13 years ago :)....she was also an orchestra member.
I haven't skipped bringing my camera even once, so I have tons of images from there, which are some of my favorite memories. The entire bay and the small old towns are a photography gold-mine.
That’s beautiful! Thanks so much for sharing that. I really fell in love with Kotor and the whole region. Amazing people and scenery and as you say, a dream for photographers.
200% Agree with you! I have had the EF 24-105 f/4 L Mark I since May 2009 for my 40D. I bought it for portraits, coverage of network events. Today it is the lens that is glued to my R8, with the RF adapter of course. This combo nails every shot I have ever tried to make, it is amazing.
It is not sharp enough for the R7 and Chris Frost showed that on the R7 the RF-S 18-150 has the same IQ. Also, f/4 is not big enough for the R7, that will miss autofocus all the time in lower light. I used the R7 with this lens for portraits on family gatherings and it was pretty frustrating. I used it in Madeira as a travel lens on the R7 and because of the brighter light outside, the combo fares a lot better. Most shots were good with great colors, better than the RF-S 18-150 which is not an L. The FOV of the 24-105 on an APS-C is not good enough on the wide side of things. For travel, I'll therefore tend to use the RF-S 18-150 on the R7 and yes... the RF-S 18-150 is also amazing on the R8 in crop mode. If you do not need the detail... the range of focal lengths is even more amazing! 10 Mpix is like my 40D used to be! And in similar low light conditions, the R8 shots are brighter, with less noise and with better color than on the R7, they look so much better on the R8.
So for travel, I've also been using the R8 + RF-S 18-150. Light and convenient! But missed resolution on occasions. Still, I shot the moon sitting on a bar terrace in Madeira this January with that combo and I was amazed with the result. The 24-105 f/4 L beats it on a Full Frame as the R8, but it is a bit more cumbersome to tow around.
I loved Rachel's outfit, the hat in particular. My regards to her too!
Thank you so much Philippe! I hope you are well. RFS 18-150 must be an incredible focal range for travel. Glad to hear you are still enjoying the R8, if you get chance to try the 24-105 f4 you might be surprised how light in the hands the combo feels! I will pass on your kind comments to Rachel too, thank you as always!
@@JamesReaderTrying 24-105 on R8, I guess you mean the RF? The EF with adaptor is a bit bigger indeed, I use nothing else for portrait / family occasions.
the first version of ef 24-105/4 was so poor, pls invest money and purchase the rf version, you will be so surpriced!!!
I think you’re mostly correct. I carry the 24-105 + my semi-pancake 40mm f/2 (I have a Sony A7CR). The reason is for low-light night-time or inside dim churches, museums etc. Also, if I’m in an interesting but dodgy foreign neighborhood for street shooting I like to be inconspicuous. I estimate 75/25 use between zoom/prime on foreign travel. Nice video!
Thank you! Would love a 40mm pancake lens on RF Mount. The Sony lens looks great
I agree. I had both the EF and RF 24-105mm lenses and they were amazing for travel.
Did you have the EF II or the original one? I'm thinking if it would be more reasonable, if I was to get one, to go with the EF II, because apparently the optics are similar, and since I have the EF 35/2 and the 85/1.4 L EF, I'd rather not remove the EF-RF adapter.
@@Mikri90 I had all three. The EF II version is long so adapted it might be too long for you. I though the RF was the best one of the three.
@@classic.cameras Oh thank you that's great info.
I am actually mostly considering the EF 24-70/2.8 II (RF 2.8 is beyond my budget) because I need a workhorse lens and I would definitely benefit from that extra stop but dang it if the size/weight and portability of the RF 24-105 isn't appealing.
Indeed the adapted 24-105 kind of kills the main benefits of having one, I was just curious if they were similar optically.
So I guess I will either go with the EF 24-70 or the RF 24-105, and they're about the same price in my area.
@@Mikri90 The EF 24-70mm f2.8L II worked amazing on my R6 with the ibis. I would buy that lens out of any of the other EF lenses
@@classic.cameras thank you, I guess it's gonna be that one then.
I do already have the EF 35/2 IS and the EF 85/1.4 L IS so sticking to the EF lenses will make it easier as the adapter can stay on the body permanently.
Bro, i dont even have a canon camera (im on the other side) and yet im watching your videos. Good video. Thank you for sharing and explaining the capabilities of this lens. Hoping you a happy and successful life brother!
Thank you so much!
Just ordered The Canon R6 m2 and this lens for bargain 2K ! No brainer if you want a good Travel setup, Great Video.
That’s a bargain Jason! Let me know what you think of the setup
Nice video! This was well done, thanks so much! I've been a Canon shooter since the film days (bought my Canon F-1 in 1976). I just upgraded to the R6 MkII from my R6. I've had the RF 24-105 ever since I got it as my kit lens with the EOS R, love it!
Thank you for watching! Hope you’re enjoying the R6 II!
These travel advantages and more are exceeded with the Canon rf-s18 - 150 mm (29 - 240 efov) on my 1.6x crop sensor R7. This lens isn't the fastest or widest aperature for sure, but it works extremely well for me in my travels, and is much smaller, lighter and less expensive than the 24 - 105 mm f/4.
100% agreed. If you want less noise and better colors in low light, try it on the R8 in crop mode. You lose detail, but if you don't need the detail, the images this combo takes are very good. Chris Frost has also compared the lenses and his conclusion was to not spend money on the 24-105 if you only have the R7 body. The RF-S is as good.
Another strange thing is that the R7 seems to miss less AF in low light with the RF-S on the wide end vs. the 24-105. The RF-S's max aperture is 3.5, marginally more light than an f/4, but in my experience it seems to matter. I would not have expected that. With f/2.8 max aperture the R7 AF works pretty reliably. When using the 28mm f/2.8 pancake on the R7 in Berlin, it nailed every shot. The poor performance of the R7 AF in low light with the 24-105 got me frustrated. James Reader convinced me the R8 is a lot better for portrait and that is why I bought the R8 body. James was VERY right. On the R8, the 24-105 f/4 is transformed... I never took pictures that good with this lens.
I never wanted to have 2 bodies, but the R7 did not live up to my broken 40D for family and portrait. The 40D was a lot better. Buying the R7 was a mistake on my part. The R8 was not out yet when I bought the R7. So the choice was: a better lens or the R8. I am happy I chose the R8. The R7 I only use for wildlife, the R8 cannot touch the R7 for wildlife.
I really need to check out that lens, I'm hearing lots of great things about it.
I even use a 24-120 lens for my travel photography
I don't own this lens and use a 24-70mm f/2.8 and a 70-200mm f/2.8 when travelling, which I think is convenient enough. Although on my last trip, I missed my 17 tilt-shift (which I had left at home) for buildings.
However, I can imagine having this focal range at high image quality in a single lens is extremely convenient for travelling. In broad daylight, an aperture larger is not needed for proper exposure, and as you say, you probably want a bit of a larger depth of field for travel portraits anyway.
I cannot definitely confirm that a 24-105 f/4 is the only type of lens you will ever need for travel photography, but I surely agree that it would cover a whole lot of situations.
Upvoted the video.
thats why this 24 -105 is bundled with canon R6 mark 2. thank you.
I had the trinity of RF lenses, RF70--200mm f2.8, RF24-70mm f2.8 and the RF14-35mm f4 (instead of the 15-35mm f2.8). Of those lenses, I eventually sold both the 70-200mm and the 24-70mm and got the RF 24-105mm f2.8 instead, as I preferred that focal length (and loved my RF24-105mm f4) but still need the f2.8 for some of my work. I don't really know why the 24-70mm is so popular, as I never really liked it, it's just a weird in-between lens, and I'd rather shoot on a 35mm or 50mm prime if I'm already limiting myself to a fairly average focal length. I sometimes miss the 70-200mm f2.8 but I didn't use it often professionally and my RF 100-400mm generally has me covered if I need the range and is super lightweight as an added bonus.
I have the same trinity and going to Japan. If I am travelling with just carry on, should I take the 24-70, 70-200, or sell them and get the one 24-105 2.8? the 200 is very heavy.
@@RoysanPHD The 24-105mm f2.8 is heavier than the 70-200mm. If it was me trying to keep things as lightweight as possible I would go with the RF 24-105mm f4 and RF 100-400mm. That would be super lightweight and get the job done! (Could even throw in a nifty fifty or one of the f1.8 RF primes as well)
Yes. Please. 24-105 portrait video !!!!!!🎉
Coming soon!
@@JamesReader thank you 🙏
Great shots! Given some of Canon's odd/cool ranges on new lenses, it would be cool if they ever put out a version starting at 22mm or 20mm, all other aspects generally equal.
Thank you Dan! Totally agree. I hope we see more standard zooms start at 20mm over the next few years.
I'm glad you're so positive about this combination, as I own the Canon r6 II with the Canon RF 24-105 F4 and the Nisi ND. It's very useful and the stabilization is really helpful. However, I'd like a light, small, high-performance AF lens for gimbal video and bokaliciousness. But I'm certainly reluctant to buy the huge F2 version or even the F2.8, which has less range and much more weight and bulk.
I wish we had the Sigma 28-70 on RF mount, seems like that would be a great light weight zoom for gimbal work
Very nice and cool Photos. I like your style and am often inspired by it!
Thank you so much!
@@JamesReaderI totally agree, the photos and composition are great. My wife and I are doing a lot of traveling now that we recently retired and both love photography. I showed her this video to look at the images to get ideas for our photography.
@@martyptx Thats amazing! Thank you so much. Enjoy your travels
Absolute, amazing review, great job. I cannot wait to pick one up for myself. I noticed your camera backpack, which brand is it?
Thanks so much! It's the Gomatic/Nomatic Luma backpack
I use the Tamron 28-200 as it is an even more versatile optic, I do miss the 24-28 range a little and it also is unstabilised but I don't find it too much of a compromise, I had and loved the Rf24-105 F4L when I had the Canon RP, I believe it to be better than the Sony equivalent....
Really enjoying your videos James, thanks very much. The topics are very well thought out and relevant.
What wrist strap do you use in this video?
Thank you so much! I’m using the “Wandrd wrist strap”. I’ve tried many and it’s my favourite by far!
I had nowt but a 28mm f/1.7 for six weeks in France and Italy last year and was very happy with that choice. I then used 20-70/4 for two weeks in Aotearoa and found that to be a better fit for my needs than the 24-105/4 that remained at home.
The video is well-done with the many examples of beautiful photographs.
Thank you so much!
Yes. I'd be very interested in your thoughts about a 24-105 for portraiture. I think it's great for creating a diverse set of images taken on location, especially for editorial use.
Totally agree! Will definitely put together a video on that topic soon!
Great video, i was thinking to change my lens and as your subscriber this video showed up and i loved your suggestion❤
Thank you so much Hossan!
Got this on my 80d yes it's crop but I got it used for £300 in brand new condition. It's awesome. I'm glad I purchased it. So versatile you can take any type of shot you want. I use ny canon g7x ii most of the time but when going out on trips i take the 80d strapped with this lens.
Great review James! I’m glad I picked up the RF version back in January for my Mexican trip. Totally worth traveling light. I actually rarely use my 24-70 2.8 RF L and have thought about selling it. I use my 15-35 2.8 RF mostly for indoor shoots and talking heads.
Thank you Jared! It's a great little travel lens.
It's weird, but I sold this exact 24-105 F4 lens to buy the 24-70 F2.8 in 2022. Now I'm searching UA-cam to find my next travel lens for my R6m2 and your channel came up. I'm not sure that F4 allows you to safely make extra travel portraits.. you need to reach F2.0-2.5
On the other hand, I traveled with 50mm and 35mm primes, but quality was far from the L series lenses I used for my best shots. ITs tought... I am confused now, even considering Canon PowerShot G7 X to solve my challenge :)
Wow, this is Kotor! Such nostalgia! In 2020 we were there on our honeymoon! A beautiful city in which you want to photograph literally everything!
Some of your photos are almost like mine =)
By the way, I also use NISI true color, very good variable density filters
That’s amazing! I absolutely fell in love with Kotor. What an incredible place to honeymoon.
I used to think this way. That I must capture this scene and that scene and I need to zoom in here and there. If I’m travelling for fun I like the prime so I’m light and small. Capturing things I can otherwise not worrying.
Although if I’m going on a trip that has lots of landscapes etc. I borrow a Nikon 24-200 Z.
Primes are definitely fun for travel. Also the restriction on focal length can be good for sharpening your composition skills.
May bring this on my next trip. Usually bring my 85 and 50 but never this. Might bring the 50 1.8 as a night time lens
Give it a try! 24-105 with the 50mm 1.8 is a fantastic combo.
Couldn't agree more! I have a 14-140mm MFT lens from Lumix (28-280mm Equivalent) and it is easily my favourite to travel with, I do wish is was a touch wider like 10-100mm, but still don't find myself switching lenses often at all!!
Ur video is a true inspiration. I’m 99% more confident to take this lens after watching ur video 🤤🤤
Thank you so much!
I sometimes use the EF version ony RP
i use it to cover events, party in general, amazing!
Great video and content James. Any chance you could describe your editing work flow to give your style of photo’s?
I disagree, making a youtube video about travels with my prime Fujifilm 35mm f 1.4 . But agree you have some good points and your video is 10 times better made than mine so far :) Keep up the good work
A 50mm prime is really fun to travel with! Look forward to seeing your video
Man we need a editing video from you some of these flicks are amazing. Love your portraits!!
Thank you so much!
I always carry a 24-70 and a 100-400 with me, because a smartphone will never offer a 400mm equivalent. That lens is large and heavy, but as long as I am able to carry it, I will.
I agree with you, the background should not be blurred too much. You can always blur it later, but you can't sharpen it later. I think the extreme toneh originated in a time when photographers wanted to show off their fast"professional" lens or eben their medium format camera. Only expensive gear achieved that extreme background blur. Since fake blur was invented, toneh is nothing special any more. Personally I only use f/2.8 when I do not have much light. Otherwise I use f/8 or f/11.
Totally agree. Hoping to try that 100-400 soon, looks like a really fun lens. The 24-70 is one of my favourite RF lenses too. Incredible.
@@JamesReader The RF 100-400 is quite small and light. I use a DSLR though. So I had to buy the EF 100-400 Ii.
Same path of decision here. 100mm is a great focal length for me because I like to photograph my selective perception of things & people. But I am trying to include more of the environment so I am starting like wider focal lengths too. Quality on 24 MPix is gorgeous and this lens has some pop because of its high contrast.
Image sharpness at close focus isn't that great at f/4 but it is some kind of dreamy - @f/8 all these aberrations are gone and in most cases f/8 gives enough depth of field to give more info about the subject.
One additional remark about versatility: On an R7 it mutates to an equivalent of ~ 40 ...170mm which allows for moderately wide shots but also allows more tele like focal lengths.
Add the RF 1.8/35 and we have an available light lens at reasonable cost, small footprint and low weight including image stabilization and 1:2 reproduction ratio.
Your photo composition is 👌
Thank you so much!
For my trip to Taiwan and Japan last year I chose the 24-105 on my Sony A7IV. Combined it with a Tamron 17-28 f/2.8 and Sigma 35 f/1.4
The Sigma was so good at night shots in Japan. Sometimes I thought 24-70 f/2.8 could be better for night walking around shots. I think I didn’t need 105mm often. When I need a zoom a 70-200 or 100-400 would be more handy.
For the trip to Laos and Thailand than I swapped the 24-105 with my Tamron 28-75 f/2.8 and also switch from sigma 35 f/1.4 to the Sony 35 f/1.8 for less weight.
Sounds like a great setup, wish we had that small 28-75 Tamron on RF mount
Really well done 👏Next up, a video on 70-200mm f4 vs f2.8 vs 85mm 1.8 for product photography and lifestyle casual portrait 🥰
he's already done 70-200f4 vs f2.8 vs 85mm f1.2, check his channel out!
Thank you!
I love the video, thanks alot 🙏🏾
Thank you!
I'm tempted to buy this mens ❤
Thanks for this video! Great advice for an amateur like me. Went to Ireland last year and forgot my RF18-45, used my 55-210 all the time and missed taking so many pictures especially in the towns we were in, resorted to my phone! Question: Would you recommend this lens(Canon RF24-105mm F4-7.1 is STM Lens) over the Canon RF-S18-150mm F3.5-6.3 Lens
James I actually use the Sigma 17-70mm F2.8-F4 on my Nikon D5500 as my main walk around zoom lens. Its the equivalent of a 24-105mm lens on a crop sensor camera. And Tamron has released a 17-70 F 2.8 for Mirroless camera's in th Sony Mount and I think Nikon Z Mount
Great video 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
nice video mate! Gonna grab my Nikon 24-120 for the upcoming vacation, after your video I definitely feel inspired.
Thank you!
awesome classic timepiece the blackbay 58
Lots of great points here. Heading to Paris next year and plan on R6 with the 24-105 f4 as my main lens and this video helps me feel good about that choice. Will also have the 16 2.8 and 35 1.8. Couldn't help noticing your Luma 18L bag - how do you like it? Was thinking of getting that as my transport bag and maybe a sling for everyday.
I think you’ll love the 24-105! Paris is amazing too. I’m actually really liking the Luma 18. Really great for travel. Love the top access and side access.
Well try to compare RF 24-105mm to RF 14-35mm is a lot better for seascape to get more coast into a frame in my view with a wider lense option.
If you are deep in the mountains bring a 100-500m instead with a RF 1*4 or RF *2 extender. It is just not for birds or animals to get a completely different approach to landscape in the mountains. My brief point is you can never get too close for a mountain top if u see some unique weather conditions far away.
Such a nice video again, really love your content! Do you know if the RF 24-105 f4-7.1 STM has similar results regarding sharpness and overall capabilities? (Ofc besides the slower apt ☺️)
Thank you so much! I have yet to try the kit lens but I have heard good things. I’m sure for travel photos you will be more than happy with the results.
@@JamesReader thank you very much James!
Keep ur 24-105 7.1 lense . It's perfect for travel and u will not get extraordinary better looking pictures. Unless u are a paid profesional photographer 📸 yes get the L . If for family and travel no. Lightroom fixes alot these days.
Rf 24-105 and Rf 100-500 a dream travel combo shame would take me like 2-3 years to save up
Have this lens with an R8 and heading to Kotor in a few weeks. Need to look at a map and find all the places in this video. Thanks! (Going to bring a 16-28 2.8 for inside photos and a 16mm and 35mm prime for nights, but am sure the 24-105 will be the outside walk around lens)
You’re gonna love Kotor! I found the 24-105 perfect whilst I was there
Great vid thanks! Subbed.
Thank you!
Sony a7R5 gives 26mp in crop mode it gives my 24-70gm ii 105 focal length and it’s similar or shorter than the RF24-105 😊. Best of both worlds
I’ve owed both EF versions and the RF version on multiple bodies and it’s def ONE of my go to lenses so agree it’s a one and done lens… however I sold it and replaced it with the RF 70-200 F4 and 14-35 F4 and for just a touch more space taken up in the bag I think it’s 💯 worth it for the versatility. I thought 24 was wide but at 14 it really changes the scene to something way different and unique imo. Sure you have the added hassle of changing lenses but for the coverage I. Think it’s worth the extra kit.
Two of my favourite RF lenses. Canon did a great job with those lenses and that’s a great two lens kit. I often think of swapping out my RF 70-200 2.8 for the F4 version as it would probably get more use.
I e owned the II and III Version of the EF 70-200 2.8 and I LOVED those lenses too on my 1Dxii but just the size is such a negative. The RF F4 version is literally the same size as the 14-35 or I think even smaller than the 24-105 or same size why not zoomed. It’s soooo small compared to the longer 2.8 version or EF. You have to see it in your hands and on the body. I’m perfectly happy with the IQ and separation of the F4 esp at 200mm with good background depth that for what I shoot you can hardly tell a difference. Now 85mm at f4 compared to 85mm 1.2 is a whole different story. Or even 50mm 1.2. I have the RF 50mm 1.8 nifty 50 as that middle bridge between the two and it helps keep the kit small compared to an 50/80 1.2 and I still love the images coming out of it plus makes the set up super compact. I’ve debated a 50 or 85mm 1.2 but for the price and bulk it’s just not needed
Thanks for this video
Thank you for watching!
what lens do you use for your talking head shots? looks like background separation is something like 2.8 or even 1.8 on 35mm? thank you in advance, great shots, great video
Thank you! This video I used the Sigma 28-70 2.8 at 28mm (at 2.8). In other videos I've used the Sigma 28mm at F2 or 1.4 also.
I love mine. Half the size and about 1/3 the cost of the 24-105 f/2.8 (which I want but I can’t justify spending $3k for one stop of light while there are still holes in my lens lineup).
Completely agree!
24-105 is my default but I very rarely travel without the whole 11-400 range in my camera bag. Sure its heavy but, in Amsterdam for a few days, without an ultra-wide, so many great opportunities would have been lost and the trip slightly spoiled. The same with church interiors throughout Italy. You can't fix these issues in processing
24-105 is fine but I would still add at least one prime. 24/35/50/85 f 1.8 primes are usually light / small-ish and work much better in low light / dark indoor places when f4 just won't cut it.
How does this lens compare to RF 24-105mm F2.8 L IS USM Z lens sharpness wise? Equal or is one much better?
The 24-105 f/4 is just fine in low light with the sensor in the R6 MkII or the R8 I have (same sensor). This sensor has a 1.5 stop wider dynamic range than previous gen sensors, almost as good as Sony's BSI sensors. Nobody knows what Canon did to nail this tech feat - except Canon engineers, obviously - so on the R6 Mk II that also boasts IBIS, this f/4 is plenty.
Further on resolution, it is not the greatest out there. Resolution and detail is why I'd use a prime for travel, not the aperture. Anything more than 24 Mpix FF pixel density will show its weakness. On the R7 - equivalent to 80+ Mpix FF - it falls apart in the corners of the image, with some pretty bad CA. Note: mine is a EF Mark I version, the RF may be better on CA in the corners. I'd expect the f/2.8 to do better, but I never tested it, so I really don't know. On the 45 Mpix R5, this 24-105 lens may not cut it.
I do agree, the 50 1.8 along with this lens may truly be the best combo. I did bring the 50 on this trip but only used it once or twice for quite niche uses cases. I haven’t had the chance to use both lenses side by side, I have no issues with the sharpness of the 24-105 F4 but the 2.8 version really is one of the sharpest RF lenses I have tried so I would guess it performs a little better. Very big lens though!
@@JamesReaderwhen I bought mine, I noticed considerable sample variation … maybe that got better now?
I feel so bad. this was my first RF lens shortly after i bought the EOS R in 2019. But i sold it 2 years later... now i'm getting it back with the R5II as kit lens 😅 But i will keep it this time. And i own the RF 24-70 2.8 too. But it was the only way to get the R5II now.
Besides the lens, the location is awesome
Montenegro is incredible!
Does anyone know the song name at 3:30? I’d greatly appreciate it if anyone knows. Both Shazam and Google failed!
Hey! That song is - Juke Boxes by Charlee Nguyen
@@JamesReader Thank you James! I appreciate your video. I’m going to Egypt and Turkey next month and your video convinced me to take my RF 24-105 f4! Excellent photos!
Дуже наглядно! Лайк/підписка😊
"For shooting people..." daym. I just bought this lens to accomodate my 70-200mm. I seldom shoot under f/4 anyways. First of all i prefer contrast bnw art photography, and f/5.6 is the go to for this. And f/4 is great for press photography too.
I still happy with 6D2 and 24-70/4 which has macro capability... anyway it's quite big, so for some situation 40/2.8 pancake is better... 24-105 is almost everything range, but does not solve special needs like interiers, macro, low-light... but not needed in trips
The 24-105 is a good lens, I have, but Canon missed the boat by not making RF18-135mm, They only made the 135mm prime which I also have. Very sharpe lens. It weights a ton.
What do you think about travel kit: rf 14-35 + 70-200 f4 or just 24-105 only? 🤔
That’s a great kit! Two of my favourite RF lenses.
@@JamesReader I've heard 14-35 great for video also. True?
@@borabora1695 yeah it’s great for video! Super sharp and the lens stabilisation is great. What camera would you use it with? The only negative on the video side is that a lot of the Canon bodies with IBIS will suffer from some corner wobble when shooting below say 24mm.
@@JamesReader I'm with the Fuji now. Never get the FF before. I'm trying to find out it's worth to change for Canon or not 🤔. Canon looks like more.... Universal. Wish they will open bayonet for Sigma and Tamron soon.
@@borabora1695 Fuji is great for travel too! I hope we see the full frame Sigma/Tamron lenses come to RF soon too, hopefully the APSC lenses are the start of that process!
I originally wanted to get the R5 and RF 28-70mm F2 lens, but I noticed on e-infinity that I could get the R5 Mark II with the 24-105mm F4 lens for the same price. I plan to use it as my main lens for event photography and some portraits. Which of the two options would you pick and why?
Hey Christian. That's a tough one, do you shoot any video? If not go for the R5 + 28-70. That's a pretty great one and done setup for everything. Otherwise the R5 MKII with the 24-105 is great but you may need a fast prime for any really low light situations, something like the RF 50 1.8 would be great.
@@JamesReader Appreciate the reply! I do shoot video, but mainly corporate interviews... I'm actually leaning towards the R6 mark ii and 28-70 at the moment. I'm currently using the M50 mark ii so either way it's a huge upgrade for me!
Well, I'm not sure whether you'd also like the Nikon's competitor 24-120mm f4 S lens on the Nikon Z-mount! Some reviews say this lens is even better than the Canon RF 24-105mm f4L lens (that I own too together with my Canon R6 II).
the tone just like fuji's tone XD nice photos btw
Thank you!
I was going to say this same thing! The tone in your photos is incredible. Are you achieving that in-body or in Lightroom? Would love to know your settings! Thanks so much for this video
@@andreboudreaux2043 thank you Andre! This look is pretty much entirely achieved in Lightroom and a lot of it comes from the tone curve. I plan on making a video soon with a bit of a guide to achieving this look. But in the meantime if you want to email me I can go into more detail regarding the Lightroom settings I used.
Thanks so much, James! I just sent you an email to your work address. Looking forward to following your channel!
I would recommend the Tamron 35-150mm f/2-2.8 if you shoot Sony or Nikon. But I would choose the 24-105 over the 24-70.
I really hope we see that lens in Canon RF soon. It looks amazing!
So for me it’s very tough choice between this and 24-70 😭
Yeah, love this lens 🥹
The 24-105 range is not enough for most travel, especially not for European cities (but others too). The RF 24-105L f4 is a great lens for travel, but not often enough in most cases. I add the RF 10-20L f4 (or other wide angle zoom) for the cathedrals, beautiful wide interiors, museums, expansive landscapes, cityscapes, seascapes...and what about environmental portraits? F4 is not good enough, and this is true especially for fill flash...daytime flashing suffers from light fall off past 50mm or 85mm so faces could result flat, too dark...and f4 will not often give you the sweet separation between the person and the background. Sure, 80-105mm range at f4 can provide great separation, but you can't often use fill flash, and you'd have to back up to get that environmental portrait feel, and in doing so, you lose separation. I add a fast prime such as the RF 35L f1.4 (or similar)...but a fast 50mm would be good too. I prefer the 35mm for the foodie opportunities. In summary, the best travel kit: RF 24-105L, RF 10-20L and the RF 35L f1.4 (or similar ranges and apertures), plus a reliable Canon flash (430EX III is not too big, but powerful). This is a light weight small kit that can be carried around in a small sling bag.
I was telling my intern the other day. Picking a 24-105f4 over a 24-70f2.8 is a sign of maturity as a photographer. Unless you shoot a ton of indoor low light.
Really ? Jee...I was mature from day one then 😀
Yeah, I think a lens like this one and a fast prime has you covered.
I'm not sure how deep you are in L mount, but what are your thought on a 28-200 for travel? and maybe one fast prime like a 24 or 35
I think that would be an amazing combo. 28-200 is an incredible range but there are times 24mm is really useful in tight cities for example.
how about the 24-105m f/2.8 zoom ?
Would you recommend the same for the R7??
I brought this with my R6II during my vacation in Japan. Weather sealing came in handy since I was practically shooting in the rain in one of our destinations.
I love this lens so much that I have the 2 EF versions and the RF. 😅
Do you see a difference between the EF and RF versions?
@@PhilippeDHooghe IQ wise RF is the best but not a significant improvement from Mk2. My copy of the MK1 is quite soft on the long end. Mk2 solved all IQ issues but I like MK1's weight and form factor.
MK1 has the slowest AF speed and has audible IS sounds. Mk2 significantly faster and quieter. RF has much faster AF and better overall IS.
But in all honesty, I would have stuck with the MK2 if it were not such a chonky lens. 😂
Great point regarding the weather sealing I completely forgot to mention! Hoping to visit Japan soon and this will surely be my lens of choice.
@@JamesReader My camera and lens was soaking wet and held up fine. If I was using my RF primes, it would have been impossible to shoot in the rain.
thank you James. I've just buyer a rf 24-105 f4 with a Eos r6 mark ii and I'm in loving with the results.
Amazing setup! Glad to hear you are loving it