Bach: Air / Koopman · Berliner Philharmoniker
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Johann Sebastian Bach: Air from Orchestral Suite No. 3 / Ton Koopman, conductor · Berliner Philharmoniker / Recorded at the Berlin Philharmonie, 30 January 2010.
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Violinos e orchestra perfeitos!
Do you know how hard it is to play baroque music without the usual extreme vibrato of nowadays? Do you know how hard it is to let go of your ego and surrender to Bach's music? For those who think the Berlin Philarmonic musicians where playing under their wonderful technical standards (best musicians in the world and so on), I think Koopman did a wonderful job, as usual, to make a whole modern, virtuosic orchestra play Bach as he wrote it.
If someone shows off ego here, these are the people who usurped Baroque music and enforced this way of playing it as a norm, thus imposing their highbrow academic-scholar expertise as a performance standard in order to shine above all others. For me, the above interpretation is an example of musicological science pretending to be real art. To be fair, it is indeed a very intriguing and informative historical reconstruction. However, from a social-cultural (and musical-practical in particular) point of view, it is nothing more but a display of an aesthetic Taliban-like dictatorship.
@@andreysimeonov8356 I don't quite get what you're saying. Before historically informed performances became the norm, performing pieces from before 1800 (give or take) went like this: rehearse them once and play exactly what's written in the notes. The problem is that especially baroque (and earlier) composers wrote a bare minimum and let the musicians do the rest, because every musician back then knew how things were supposed to be played. This means that if you play baroque music the way it's written, you're missing most of the piece. You're missing dynamics, tempo changes, articulation, improvisation, trills and so on.
Now, I would agree that this particular perfomance isn't so good, because they use modern instrumentation, which simply doesn't work for this music and because they don't improvise at all. BUT this is still more art than the terribly ignorant performances that were the norm in during 20th century.
This isn't highbrow btw, just look at the ensembles that only do baroque music, they are way more down to earth than the large orchestras that have the arrogance to think they can play anything from the 1600s til now.
Mr. Simeonov,
With all due respect.
I don’t think you know what you’re talking about.
After writing all of that nonsense you just wrote just to make yourself sound intelligent.
Further more, I’ve said to trolls like you who come on UA-cam and trash some interpretation of a work performed by highly skilled musicians. Just to make yourself sound intelligent.
I’ve heard of Ton Koopman, I’ve heard of the Berlin Philharmonic…but, I’ve never heard of you.
That’s the biggest difference here.
@leavitttrumpet Most of the conductor's work is done in rehearsal not at the performance and, actually, I think that Koopman has done a remarkable job of getting a very fine performance from the Berlin Philharmonic in a style that is probably quite unlike the way that they would normally have played this piece. I doubt if it would or could have sounded quite like this with any other conductor.
stupendo
Absolutely fantastic
I must have heard this piece a thousand times including on period instruments, but listening to this was as if I was hearing the piece for the first time. Thanks you for an awesome interpretation that touched me deeply.
The sound of the Berliner Philharmoniker is just unique.
dont know why this gets so much critizism. I have been listening to many renditions of this piece, and this is by far the most pleasing i could find in all of youtube.
It is "bad" to them, because they're accustomed to the syrup-saturated, sluggish, overtly sentimental version they usually hear and have sadly learnt to accept as the "right" version. The truth of the matter is, relative to baroque performance tradition, this is one of the best out there. Mind you, this doesn't mean that the others are bad. Music is a living thing. However, the piece was composed in a specific era so I prefer to hear it performed with the culture of that time (which is precisely what Koopman gives us here).
what instruments were used?
Its_Me_Hadia , modern instruments
but played in the manner of the time
of the 17th century,
though the 17th century instruments
are a lot different.......
@@craigbloomfield527
Bubba I'm sorry but conductors from the past who performed Bach in a more symphonic and romantic way is what made Bach so famous today, not Koopman. And to be honest I'm getting a bit tired myself to hear Bach constantly performed in the same mechanical, unemotional, unmusical way. He's the composer who inspired Beethoven you genius. The construction and the melodic style of his church music is similar with the beginning of the romantic era. I wonder where Bach would've been today with "experts" like you. I was introduced to classical music through Leopold Stokowski's Bach. Probably wouldn't even like this music if it was through Koopman or Gardiner. Or through you baroque experts.
@@FriendlyCroock I perfectely agree with you Crooc. Completely missing vibrato is annoying, and not filologically correct (Vivaldi used vibrato so probably Bach did). And why is the first Da Capo completely missing?? I know I'm not the best Bach expert, but probably Karayan, and above all Richter were: ua-cam.com/video/qHJRaqaHiEc/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/Iq-2fhScoCc/v-deo.html (not always newer is better...)
2:18 was war das =D
das war doch nicht für das Orchester bestimmt oder?
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! Ton, the Great(est)...
Das Air von J.S. Bach ist eines meiner Lieblingsstücke
No war but Bach !
Beautiful execution. Of course, as someone told before, modern instruments will never sound the same way (not better, not worst), but that doesn't mean you have to play "the modern way" with it. I think they use the perfect amount of vibrato and a great tempo choice from Koopman as well. I'm directing this work with my student's orchestra soon, and will of course show this video to them. I hope we can achieve something similar to this Master Performance.
Very nice straight from the DNA- germany. :-) though it lacks more instruments, more power needed, more volume too but maybe this is unfair coz' I'm comparing it to this orchestra's studio version.
God bless.
I could burst into tears when I listen to this. So beautiful. 🥰
Ich mag diese voluminöse Version von Air sehr ... gebe gern diesen Link zur Version mit Violine & Orgel aus der Taufkirche von J.S. Bach in Eisenach zum 335. Tauftag weiter ua-cam.com/video/P-d_0GjugOM/v-deo.html
I know it is a matter of taste, but those two versions are not better at all (i.m.O.). In fact: I found none on YT which could cope with a performance of Musica Antique Cologne I´ve heard live in Leipzig (Gewandhaus) once. Not even Karajans watch?v=JcfmQhDvDFc from 1966!
Realy beautiful.
I play violin. It's very hard.
Bach bound and blessed us by this. He tallied our tears and jeweled our joy. Beethoven said: “Bach took the depth of his heart and raised to the power of Händel’s clarity that’s why the Air is so good!” :) Please listen to and enjoy my solo piano version here: ua-cam.com/video/TBpvXNjub3Q/v-deo.html
I must have heard this piece a thousand times including HIP, but listening to this was as if I was hearing the piece for the first time. Thanks you for an awesome interpretation that touched me deeply.
This sounds as if performed by ghosts...
Who's listening to this cuz of their music teacher?
Amazing video. I used to spend whole afternoons on a lan house just watch those videos from the DCH. Ten years ago, this one was always on my lan house watch lists.
I love this interpretation!
I came here because of Battle Royal used this music
What a breath of fresh air!
... particularly if the conducter is a Baroque expert, as Ton Koopman...
Jooo was geht
Nichts bei dir
@@seidvejzovic5171 auch nix bei dir?
Was machst du gerade
@@seidvejzovic5171 ich sitze neben dir du?
Air von Bach, hatte mich als Teenager schon zu Bach "gebracht", die durch und durch sakrale tief berührende Musik (er hatte ja auch nur für Gott komponiert)! Beethoven war (Jugend) meine Erste große Liebe und wie es nicht Anders sein konnte und Musste, wurde ich dann Wagnerianrin ! (Ich bin (West).Berlinerin).
Grandios, absolut wunderbare Interpretation. Nie so gehört zuvor. Ton Koopmann lässt Bach erklingen, wie ich es mir vorstelle. :) Danke Danke Danke !!!
One of the best ever written work of baroque music! Since I was little child I very, very like those amazing masterpiece! Thank you!
@AbsoluteZ3R0 Watch him conducting a choir, performing the Mattaeus Passion.... You will love him.
Excelente, muy hermosa la interpretacion, la mejor.
Guauuu!
Made in heaven
unity, duality, trinity....listen for it, it's there....Rua'h Kibriya! Genevieve Gwynne, Sidney, Montana...hi Christopher.... :)
I love this kind of music very much.
I am here cause first video with the sweet high pitched violin at the beginning and a comment section. This song plays in the game Mr whiskers and it got me I had to look it up
...DIVINE !
Exquisita!
Listen to Stockholm royal phillarmonic orchestras version instead. It is much better!
Today July 28th is the 265 anniversary of Bach's step into Eternity...
学校の宿題でクラシックを聴く課題でこれきいた
You should watch Ton's vlogs. It's so typically Ton.
@calebmwebb You are so right, but.... what about Ton Koopman? Do you know that he is the world's most famous choir-director concerning the Matthaeus Passion?
@NiniClarineta Without all the previous investigations made by Koopman with other orchestras with historical instruments, such a rendering like that one you see in the video would be impossible to achieve.
Excellent!
John elliot gardiner also great director.
J s Bach menetti sielunkumppanin sai uuden mahdollisuuden ja hänellä oli ainakin 20 muksua
Oh I love this piece of music, although it's kinda nearly disgustingly boring to play the cello part. But it's always some relaxation to lean back and play slow pizzicato for a few minutes^^
Yg mampir kesini karena di suruh guru🗿
Dios mío ! qué feeling
@calebmwebb
Yor forgot Prague orchestra philharmonic))
ps Air is the best composition from Bach ^^
@LeonardTrommel A very discerning musician/listener you are Mr Trommel. I heard the New York Phil try this approach with Corelli and it was ineffective - failed to persuade. Heifetz stayed away from the Paganini concerto and Milstein stayed away from the Sibelius - they were wise.
Great Koopman.
amaze
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Klingt toll!😊
Geniální, nádherné
Fatasztikus!
And also another masterpiece not only music composed but amazing interpretation! tank you!
My channel was hacked, sorry, I did not write those comments before
Se7en
MUY BUENOO
Este pasaje me llena de paz y armonía.
Espero que te guste.
Eduardo
Magnifique
Mi hai fatto piangere, fanculo va'....
@pianistaeli oh so bach told you how he wrote it?where can i find him?
fantastic....
Einfach vom Himmel
oh dear.... rushed and a little dry.
Excelente dirección Gustavo hijo es un orgullo que seas venezolano y del estado Lara Dios te bendiga por siempre
the organ of the conductor,is it a reed organ?
Aria immortale... quest'uomo non è un ruscello (Bach = ruscello, in tedesco), ma un immenso oceano, parola di L. van Beethoven
You don't know how right you are...
Finale Borodin Streichquartett Nr. 2
amazing
@tobseno1: It is Mr Koopmans way of conducting piano (soft) [I used to sing under his direction]. I was told that once a whole choir stopped when he did this :-)
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I'd wish I could play it that well.
Es ta donit
Beautiful ... ima ♥ Mr. Ton Koopman
the bass players don't phrase at all
Ton Koopman is a sirrow in the world of music.
Gute Arbeit, Jungs! Das ist im Unterricht echt hilfreich :D
what instruments were used?
@Jitpring that would be negative.
This version is currently the best on earth.
9 am, nyc, 5/11/2020
Música clássica... meu refúgio...!!!
Excellent!!
Great
Chopin prelude
Wonderfull! Thanks Koopman!
@Jitpring Negative on that.
Que maravillosa manera de iniciar el domingo!
Red Velvet ❤️
no vibrato!
Felt light as, lifted my soul