Muscle Band being better than Expert Belt is funny to think about considering how the items actually work in the main series (1.1x physical damage vs. 1.2x damage on super effective hits)
Gen 2s special darkness energy defiantly should of made the list; the card was one of the most important cards for multiple top tier decks for 8 years in a row. It increases the damage of dark pokemon by 10 and for 2 generations there was no basic dark energy. Which means dark decks HAD to play the card until the normal basic darkness energy was made in gen 4. When it first came out it made Sneasal the best deck in the format, its slightly inconsistent beat up attack did 20 damage on a coin flip for each pokemon in play (expect sneasal) it costed 2 dark energy and since those energy together boosted the damage by 20 it made it so sneasal could consistently get koes even if the opponent tried not to bench pokemon to reduce your damage. The card got reprinted in gen 3 and was a key part of two of the Generations absolute best decks, Electrode-ex/Tyrantiar (aka bombtar) and Dark Electrode / Dark Dragonite (aka dragtrode). Bombtar has a good argument to be called very best deck in 2006; Tyrantiar did more damage for each every attached to it; which were gained by electrode-ex who sacrificed itself to attach 5 energy cards from the discard pile. Scramble energy and darkness energy where attached this way and let the card ko basically anything; later in the game when the prize exchange was even and scramble energys comeback effect stopped working; darkness energy kept the damage output high letting tyranitar win. Dragtode was a high tier deck for 2005-2006 based on accelerating dark energy into play and moving it around with dragonite the extra damage from darkness energy made a big difference on a game to game basis because the decks strategy meant it could always get the most value out of each individual energy not putting any damage to waste. These were only the top decks, special dark was responsible for making several less powerful dark decks playable at all such as Shiftry ex and Dark Steelix. Special Darkness energy also stuck around in gen 4 even as the basic version was released; dark decks were less successful at the time compared to the previous generations and didnt always use the special version of the energy but it still saw some play. The card was retired in gen 5 afther nearly a decade of huge competitive success. If thats not deserving of making it in the top 10 then IDK what is (probably replace deoxys EX since it was only apart of two decks for a relatively short period of time)
@@piens51 Exactly, for Pokemon and MTG he has folks who know the games fairly well write the scripts for him, because he doesn't actually know how the games work that much, as opposed to Yugioh which is his actual area of expertise.
Thanks so much for the hard work on this video. Mistake with seismitoad when talking about muscle band. You said it’s grenade hammer does 30 damage to two of your opponents Pokémon, but it’s 30 damage to two of your own benched pokemon
Watching this and seeing the tremendous Power Creep in sets is an eye opener. Look at the 110 HP and 60 damage on Luxray LvX and that was considered big back then, and then M-Rayquaza EX at 220 being a big deal in 2015, to Mew VMax at 310 today. Basic pokemon today have more power than the biggest threats of previous eras
and we also have to remember where it all started, with 80hp Wigglytuff vs 70hp haymakers. I'm just getting into the game from MTG, so the power creep that I'm seeing doesn't terrify me. At least Game Freak keeps the formats balanced (for the most part, they aren't scared to ban cards for fear of financial repercussions *cough cough The One Ring cough cough* )
@@Lemon_Sage9999true, and in those days they actually banned the first cards that consistently broke the game. Sneasel doing almost always enough damage to OHKO any Pokémon it went up against without the worry of having the same happen to itself was a problem and it got banned.
You missed the niche use of the old pluspower. Because pluspower was attached to the pokemon, you could avoid discarding them, by attacking with Uxie or Shuppet in their respective donk decks.
Haha, thank you. I don't do any of those clips, as I'm a different editor for the channels. But I'm glad you enjoyed the video! Thank you for the kind words.
@@iTunsiscool26 You're welcome man, those comments are really good. Though it will be better to write commenta about effects if the text is unreadable from afar, especially for full art cards.
Yeah, it was basically a more generic Power Tablet back then when Pokémons had fewer HP. Such a good card, indeed part of what made PikaKrom great in its first span of life.
Something that was missed about HGSS and BW PlusPower is that Reshiram and Zekrom were basically staples at that worlds, and their attacks didn't ohko each other. If you didnt ohko Reshiram or Zekrom, they were gonna ohko you with Outrage. So with PlusPower was tempo. It also ohko Kingdra meaning the go really minus.
Doing a breakdown off app meta decks to irl decks from around the same time would be interesting. Admittedly I don't remember if it showed stats or anything. I just remember Goldduck turbo being a rogue pick and Tappu Koko being overused in 2016-7
Future Booster Energy is such a crazy card. I wonder if it'll end up being placed on this list with the right Future mon support. It's Float Stone and Muscle Band in one card.
The card is excellent, as well as Cobalion from Temporal forces. We will have to wait and see how successful the future deck ends up being. It is unlikely to get more cards from now on, though.
I am unsure if you made this list on single or double battles but I know Crawdaunt would of made this list because of his ability power Pinchers when it came to double battles. That extra +10 power and adding other trainers like Strengh charm and plus power add more extra damage to your attacking Pokémon. Also surprised Darkness energy was not here cause you attach 4 of them to one Pokémon that equals 40 damage if that Pokémon was dark.
Muscle Band being better than Expert Belt is funny to think about considering how the items actually work in the main series (1.1x physical damage vs. 1.2x damage on super effective hits)
at least choice band is stronger than muscle band as always
Seismitoad ex did 30 damage to your own benches Pokemon not the opponents. That second attack was rarely used if not ever used
Gen 2s special darkness energy defiantly should of made the list; the card was one of the most important cards for multiple top tier decks for 8 years in a row. It increases the damage of dark pokemon by 10 and for 2 generations there was no basic dark energy. Which means dark decks HAD to play the card until the normal basic darkness energy was made in gen 4.
When it first came out it made Sneasal the best deck in the format, its slightly inconsistent beat up attack did 20 damage on a coin flip for each pokemon in play (expect sneasal) it costed 2 dark energy and since those energy together boosted the damage by 20 it made it so sneasal could consistently get koes even if the opponent tried not to bench pokemon to reduce your damage. The card got reprinted in gen 3 and was a key part of two of the Generations absolute best decks, Electrode-ex/Tyrantiar (aka bombtar) and Dark Electrode / Dark Dragonite (aka dragtrode). Bombtar has a good argument to be called very best deck in 2006; Tyrantiar did more damage for each every attached to it; which were gained by electrode-ex who sacrificed itself to attach 5 energy cards from the discard pile. Scramble energy and darkness energy where attached this way and let the card ko basically anything; later in the game when the prize exchange was even and scramble energys comeback effect stopped working; darkness energy kept the damage output high letting tyranitar win. Dragtode was a high tier deck for 2005-2006 based on accelerating dark energy into play and moving it around with dragonite the extra damage from darkness energy made a big difference on a game to game basis because the decks strategy meant it could always get the most value out of each individual energy not putting any damage to waste. These were only the top decks, special dark was responsible for making several less powerful dark decks playable at all such as Shiftry ex and Dark Steelix.
Special Darkness energy also stuck around in gen 4 even as the basic version was released; dark decks were less successful at the time compared to the previous generations and didnt always use the special version of the energy but it still saw some play. The card was retired in gen 5 afther nearly a decade of huge competitive success. If thats not deserving of making it in the top 10 then IDK what is (probably replace deoxys EX since it was only apart of two decks for a relatively short period of time)
I find that his pokemon lists are often a bit lacking
@@radaf4429 Yeah he lacks familiarity. Seing how many other focuses he has its to be expected.
@@piens51 Exactly, for Pokemon and MTG he has folks who know the games fairly well write the scripts for him, because he doesn't actually know how the games work that much, as opposed to Yugioh which is his actual area of expertise.
Thanks so much for the hard work on this video. Mistake with seismitoad when talking about muscle band. You said it’s grenade hammer does 30 damage to two of your opponents Pokémon, but it’s 30 damage to two of your own benched pokemon
Thanks a lot for the kind words. I'm glad you enjoyed the video!
Kudos to the artist who worked on #03. The belt looks like it's taking a fighting stance, and asking the opponent to "Just Bring It"! Nice touch.
Watching this and seeing the tremendous Power Creep in sets is an eye opener. Look at the 110 HP and 60 damage on Luxray LvX and that was considered big back then, and then M-Rayquaza EX at 220 being a big deal in 2015, to Mew VMax at 310 today. Basic pokemon today have more power than the biggest threats of previous eras
and we also have to remember where it all started, with 80hp Wigglytuff vs 70hp haymakers. I'm just getting into the game from MTG, so the power creep that I'm seeing doesn't terrify me. At least Game Freak keeps the formats balanced (for the most part, they aren't scared to ban cards for fear of financial repercussions *cough cough The One Ring cough cough* )
@@Lemon_Sage9999true, and in those days they actually banned the first cards that consistently broke the game. Sneasel doing almost always enough damage to OHKO any Pokémon it went up against without the worry of having the same happen to itself was a problem and it got banned.
You missed the niche use of the old pluspower. Because pluspower was attached to the pokemon, you could avoid discarding them, by attacking with Uxie or Shuppet in their respective donk decks.
God shuppet donk was so funny i loved that era of the tcg
I get the feeling that Joltik coming short of 170 damage isn't a big deal for the Yveltal matchup, what with that electric weakness
My boy volc, can't believe you did him dirty showing the promo art
Great series cause you go into the meta at the time ❤️
I'm sorry, I'm sitting here laughing at the absurdity of a tcg Pikachu having 310HP.
II reckon one of the editors who usually does the TheDuelLogs Duel Logs clips did this video.
The sass at 14:24 is delicious.
12:14 he also puts Pałka Lv.X instead of Pałka VMax
Haha, thank you. I don't do any of those clips, as I'm a different editor for the channels. But I'm glad you enjoyed the video! Thank you for the kind words.
@@iTunsiscool26 damn, those edits are FIRE!
@@blazechaos212 Thank you so much for the kind words!
@@iTunsiscool26 You're welcome man, those comments are really good. Though it will be better to write commenta about effects if the text is unreadable from afar, especially for full art cards.
Woah, DuelLogs! I didnt know you did Pokemon TCG as well!
not electro power?
Fr, it’s seen so much more competitive play than power tablet and is much more versatile.
Yeah, it was basically a more generic Power Tablet back then when Pokémons had fewer HP.
Such a good card, indeed part of what made PikaKrom great in its first span of life.
Man I wish we had a deck like Greninja break in format again I absolutely adored that crazy frog and its sniping shenanigans
Something that was missed about HGSS and BW PlusPower is that Reshiram and Zekrom were basically staples at that worlds, and their attacks didn't ohko each other. If you didnt ohko Reshiram or Zekrom, they were gonna ohko you with Outrage. So with PlusPower was tempo. It also ohko Kingdra meaning the go really minus.
When are you doing the best Primes?
Please do!
Doing a breakdown off app meta decks to irl decks from around the same time would be interesting.
Admittedly I don't remember if it showed stats or anything. I just remember Goldduck turbo being a rogue pick and Tappu Koko being overused in 2016-7
Diance prism should be number 1 it was stupid strong
Future Booster Energy is such a crazy card. I wonder if it'll end up being placed on this list with the right Future mon support. It's Float Stone and Muscle Band in one card.
The card is excellent, as well as Cobalion from Temporal forces. We will have to wait and see how successful the future deck ends up being. It is unlikely to get more cards from now on, though.
Volcanion EX was in decks with Salazzle GX but didn't boost its attacks since Volcanion EX only buffed Basic Fire Pokemon not all Fire Pokemon
i had this deoxys but traded it against rayquaza xc I also have that lugia and stuff :o Shayman tooo
I am unsure if you made this list on single or double battles but I know Crawdaunt would of made this list because of his ability power Pinchers when it came to double battles. That extra +10 power and adding other trainers like Strengh charm and plus power add more extra damage to your attacking Pokémon.
Also surprised Darkness energy was not here cause you attach 4 of them to one Pokémon that equals 40 damage if that Pokémon was dark.
i played back in the black and white era and i played TDK a lot, it was so much fun.
Looking at these cards, I'm really out of date.
ElectroPower?
how about best v union pokemon?
Easily M2; the only V-union that ever saw play.
I almost suggested this last video, but I couldn’t quite figure out how to word it.
Grenade hammer does damage to your bench, not your opponents - that card was broken but not that broken haha
Tapu leilei is OP
0:21 the background reminds me of something, the colours 🏳️⚧️
2:02 lol "Russian Keldeo"
A YuGiOh fan who cam here by mistake : Who are you people ?
Lan-door-us
Oo-xie 😂
Come on Ux…
14:25 get off him editor, you know yugioh players can't read
stop saying kill. Pokemon faint capital d colon.