A mandate is a written command given by a authority or agent member of public contract by which one person requests other persons to agree voluntarily to a service it only becomes effective when the mandatory agrees only mandatory once you agree to do it if you do not consent to the request you are not obligated under the mandate to comply there is a difference between a mandate and a law!!!!
Some of these comments are ridiculous. Some even accuse Lior of misinformation or that he doesn't know what he's talking about. I don't blame people for being upset but I loose sympathy when people are just plain wrong and refuse to acknowledge that their preconceived notions of how the law or of how vaccines and even how Canada works aren't accurate. Rewriting the same questions doesn't change the law. Calling things experimental or violations doesn't mean they are. Keep up the good work Lior and the others. These guys are fighting for you even though some refuse to see that.
Also, if they are on unpaid leave that may block the EI. They might be better off arguing that the leave is termination without cause like in the video
Another perspective on proof of vaccination applying for a job. Could employers use it as a tool to weed out people they feel are non compliant to authority, or who they think are not team players etc. Maybe asking an employer at the time of interview why "proof" matters may reveal a lot about the company as well.
Everybody has the freedom to choose LOL which is basically just an illusion when you consider the fact that your choices or lack thereof is determined by money 🤑🤑
@@donsweet6133 today's society you're better off course being ultra rich or ultra poor!! People in the middle are just pawns like those domestic terrorist mothers voicing the concern at school board meeting !!
I was terminated Oct 22 as well and was working from home the whole time. My employer thought that I threaten health and safety of the patients and colleagues from working from home and my request for accommodation under human rights code was not honoured.
Same I work in a long term care facility I cannot go back to work till I get the vaccine I am on unpaid leave now So sad I have family we are paying rent and the rent is so high and I cannot apply EI 😕💔
@@toffermantravels853 I've never worked in a union, so how does it work? Can you still get work of some kind through your Union? Will they help you find other types of work? In the event you get terminated, do you get a Record of Employment like the private sector? There's a section that asks the reason for issuing the ROE, is be curious to see what it says. If it's code M, dismissal, is anybody going to challenge it. As I understand, justification for dismissal is supposed to require a reason that really breaks the trust relationship, if anything that's what the employer has done, imo. I presume frontline workers would have a better understanding of the actual risks versus theoretical modeling that seems to be passed on to the "authorities" from some place nobody knows.
Are you claiming that an individual man/woman ACTING on behalf of a corporation/employer is not accountable or liable for their actions regarding deprivation of rights under color of law? No man or woman is above the law and no man or woman can hide behind corporate structure when they're engaging in criminal behavior (uttering threats, coercion, intimidation, extortion) and depriving people of their right to medical consent, security of person/bodily integrity AND right to work. As far as I can tell, employers are relying on the Re-opening Ontario Act for this proof of vax mandate. But when you read the actual act/statute they are relying on for imposing a proof of vax mandate, it expressly reads that it only applies to PATRONS and not employees.
Questions: Why would an employer impose a workplace vaccine mandate? On what scientific evidence, if any, did employers base their assumptions that a vaccine mandate would be effective at achieving its intended purpose? How would imposing a vaccine mandate, and subsequently firing employees who did not comply, benefit an employer? I would imagine that an employer would make the decision to impose a vaccine mandate based on a cost-benefit analysis, so how would the benefits outweigh the costs? In retrospect now in 2024, was it worth it to employers to impose vaccine mandates in 2021 & 2022?
If your company's clients requires you to be vaccinated to work on their site, are you saying the worker has no leg to stand on if the company terminates your employment & to seek compensation i.e. severance etc...?
Does anyone know, in the province of British Columbia, do workers qualify for Worker's Compensation if they receive injuries as a result being pressure into taking the vaccines, by their employer (who have contracts with the federal government)? Thanks.
Question. I work for the municipal government in a sector that hasn't been mandated by the government for the shot. I cant remeber what the terms of my employment for severance. If let go, can you help me get the severence i deserve, as i am not part of the union anymore?
The FDA EUA the very thing that authorizes the use of this experimental drug clearly states that the decision to accept or refuse the experimental drug is 100% the recipients choice. An employer mandating the jab is illegal.
No tests or vax. Religious exemption submitted. Interactive held. Placed on full time telework until they decide. California state employee. Edit: Thank you sir! I will call my union!!!
If you are in a union ( practically useless) file a greivance no matter who or what tells you, if you are on a loa or will soon be. I am in the bcgeu and art 12,1.3 1.5 is grounds against this mandate bs even if they say it isn't. I made a request for a religius exemption ( which my good people is grounds if you say so not anyones interpretation and has to be honoured within reason if you claim. or in this case you can cliam discrimination for political as well as it involves govt policy. In Bc Bonnie henry's lies are NOT law provincial letterhead or not and if you are in a union its will state somewhere that in all cases that the collective agreement shall take prescedence even if someone is acting on your employers behalf ( health authority). All unions have a clause that there shall be no discrimintaion for employment ie, race sex, religion, political etc also unions have a time limit to act and in my opinion are avoiding as many claims as they can to assuage employees to exhaust there time limit and give up.I called the union 2 days ago and gave then hell for not acting and threatened them with union activity interferance as it has been 9 weeks and not even a step 1 yet. The union representative said I had a right to file against her under sec 12 then she hung up on me.30 mins later I got an email saying my claim is now at step 3! and she just talked with my employer as she told me she never knew about it but my shop stewart told me she handed it in 9 weeks ago. I am now awaiting and wrote in my testimony that I would be willing to get tested instead of jabbed to return to work that way I am making grounds for severance as I did not leave but am being forced.If you filed a greivance, PRESSURE your union to act if they haven;t yet, the more people file the more likely they will pressure your employer to inact testing or pay you out
@@inspirationalshanae5129 Thank you, yes, I've found employment elsewhere, though not as a firefighter. Sorry to hear you're having a tough time-- may you be granted perseverance and peace of heart to get you through.
A mandate is a written command given by a authority or agent member of public contract by which one person requests other persons to agree voluntarily to a service it only becomes effective when the mandatory agrees only mandatory once you agree to do it if you do not consent to the request you are not obligated under the mandate to comply there is a difference between a mandate and a law!!!!
I believe you are correct.
And, you can still get fired.
Some of these comments are ridiculous. Some even accuse Lior of misinformation or that he doesn't know what he's talking about. I don't blame people for being upset but I loose sympathy when people are just plain wrong and refuse to acknowledge that their preconceived notions of how the law or of how vaccines and even how Canada works aren't accurate. Rewriting the same questions doesn't change the law. Calling things experimental or violations doesn't mean they are. Keep up the good work Lior and the others. These guys are fighting for you even though some refuse to see that.
Please avoid these \/accines at all costs
My mom got cancer after taking the 2 doses
Yes. And also tests, if at ALL possible.
Very helpful. I hope everything you say is true. I'll be fighting this battle soon. I'm surprised this video's doesn't have more views
My friend is working in a canada post where there is vacc mandate, the Employer put them on unpaid leave and they cannot file for EI
Yes but Canada post is union which makes it more complicated
Also, if they are on unpaid leave that may block the EI. They might be better off arguing that the leave is termination without cause like in the video
@@janetsmith2915 complicated for who? dues are taken autimatically from your pay, that is the only priority. same goes for all the nurses.
As a union employee you would have to rely on the union to back you up and I've heard that many won't help
Another perspective on proof of vaccination applying for a job. Could employers use it as a tool to weed out people they feel are non compliant to authority, or who they think are not team players etc. Maybe asking an employer at the time of interview why "proof" matters may reveal a lot about the company as well.
Everybody has the freedom to choose LOL which is basically just an illusion when you consider the fact that your choices or lack thereof is determined by money 🤑🤑
The global ruling elites decide our rights or lack thereof.
@@donsweet6133 today's society you're better off course being ultra rich or ultra poor!! People in the middle are just pawns like those domestic terrorist mothers voicing the concern at school board meeting !!
This was awesome! Thank you for doing this for us. It sure did give me hope!
Glad to have helped.
I live in Canada and was terminated on Oct 22. I worked at a hospital and our union is a joke.
I was terminated Oct 22 as well and was working from home the whole time. My employer thought that I threaten health and safety of the patients and colleagues from working from home and my request for accommodation under human rights code was not honoured.
Same I work in a long term care facility I cannot go back to work till I get the vaccine I am on unpaid leave now So sad I have family we are paying rent and the rent is so high and I cannot apply EI 😕💔
@@toffermantravels853 I've never worked in a union, so how does it work? Can you still get work of some kind through your Union? Will they help you find other types of work? In the event you get terminated, do you get a Record of Employment like the private sector? There's a section that asks the reason for issuing the ROE, is be curious to see what it says. If it's code M, dismissal, is anybody going to challenge it. As I understand, justification for dismissal is supposed to require a reason that really breaks the trust relationship, if anything that's what the employer has done, imo. I presume frontline workers would have a better understanding of the actual risks versus theoretical modeling that seems to be passed on to the "authorities" from some place nobody knows.
@@kc3678 I don’t have work rn it’s hard to find work and I’m not eligible to EI 😞
I pray God honors and provides for you
Are you claiming that an individual man/woman ACTING on behalf of a corporation/employer is not accountable or liable for their actions regarding deprivation of rights under color of law? No man or woman is above the law and no man or woman can hide behind corporate structure when they're engaging in criminal behavior (uttering threats, coercion, intimidation, extortion) and depriving people of their right to medical consent, security of person/bodily integrity AND right to work.
As far as I can tell, employers are relying on the Re-opening Ontario Act for this proof of vax mandate. But when you read the actual act/statute they are relying on for imposing a proof of vax mandate, it expressly reads that it only applies to PATRONS and not employees.
Questions:
Why would an employer impose a workplace vaccine mandate?
On what scientific evidence, if any, did employers base their assumptions that a vaccine mandate would be effective at achieving its intended purpose?
How would imposing a vaccine mandate, and subsequently firing employees who did not comply, benefit an employer?
I would imagine that an employer would make the decision to impose a vaccine mandate based on a cost-benefit analysis, so how would the benefits outweigh the costs?
In retrospect now in 2024, was it worth it to employers to impose vaccine mandates in 2021 & 2022?
what about a Natropath Doctor?
Do you only assist people in need of your services only in your state, or are you licensed to practice across states?
He's Canada
It’s a laboratory experimental shot 🐁🧪🐀🧪💀
So is the test
If your company's clients requires you to be vaccinated to work on their site, are you saying the worker has no leg to stand on if the company terminates your employment & to seek compensation i.e. severance etc...?
this is happening to me. I've been there 8 years. how much is severance pay in Canada?
Does anyone know, in the province of British Columbia, do workers qualify for Worker's Compensation if they receive injuries as a result being pressure into taking the vaccines, by their employer (who have contracts with the federal government)? Thanks.
Were you injured?
Question. I work for the municipal government in a sector that hasn't been mandated by the government for the shot. I cant remeber what the terms of my employment for severance. If let go, can you help me get the severence i deserve, as i am not part of the union anymore?
Thanks for the thumbs up, but can you answer the question?
If you go to their website, there is a section under COVID where you can submit your question. Someone will respond within a couple of days.
The FDA EUA the very thing that authorizes the use of this experimental drug clearly states that the decision to accept or refuse the experimental drug is 100% the recipients choice.
An employer mandating the jab is illegal.
Health care in Albert? Is there a mandate?
No tests or vax. Religious exemption submitted. Interactive held. Placed on full time telework until they decide. California state employee. Edit: Thank you sir! I will call my union!!!
Americans don't get severance. But good for Canadians
Thanks
Thank you sir
Most of the Big Pharmas files for Religious Exemptions😂😂😂😂😂
EI is not paid to ppl who were dismissed by refusing vaccination
A new policy by the government to further pressure people!!
If you are in a union ( practically useless) file a greivance no matter who or what tells you, if you are on a loa or will soon be. I am in the bcgeu and art 12,1.3 1.5 is grounds against this mandate bs even if they say it isn't. I made a request for a religius exemption ( which my good people is grounds if you say so not anyones interpretation and has to be honoured within reason if you claim. or in this case you can cliam discrimination for political as well as it involves govt policy. In Bc Bonnie henry's lies are NOT law provincial letterhead or not and if you are in a union its will state somewhere that in all cases that the collective agreement shall take prescedence even if someone is acting on your employers behalf ( health authority). All unions have a clause that there shall be no discrimintaion for employment ie, race sex, religion, political etc also unions have a time limit to act and in my opinion are avoiding as many claims as they can to assuage employees to exhaust there time limit and give up.I called the union 2 days ago and gave then hell for not acting and threatened them with union activity interferance as it has been 9 weeks and not even a step 1 yet. The union representative said I had a right to file against her under sec 12 then she hung up on me.30 mins later I got an email saying my claim is now at step 3! and she just talked with my employer as she told me she never knew about it but my shop stewart told me she handed it in 9 weeks ago. I am now awaiting and wrote in my testimony that I would be willing to get tested instead of jabbed to return to work that way I am making grounds for severance as I did not leave but am being forced.If you filed a greivance, PRESSURE your union to act if they haven;t yet, the more people file the more likely they will pressure your employer to inact testing or pay you out
There are other JOBS U CAN WORK AT THAT DOES NOT REQUIRE VACCINATION STATUS!
The law system is not going to help unless you have lots of time and money!
I recently lost my job as a firefighter for speaking out against the vaccine mandate. I posted a video about it on my channel if you're interested.
Your a blessing. Did you find employment? I reside in My and having a hard time
@@inspirationalshanae5129 Thank you, yes, I've found employment elsewhere, though not as a firefighter. Sorry to hear you're having a tough time-- may you be granted perseverance and peace of heart to get you through.
This is unconstitutional.
:-)