The Wrong Batman vs The Punisher! | Batman/Punisher: Lake of Fire

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  • The first DC/Marvel crossover after 12 years with X-Men/Teen Titans, Batman/Punisher: Lake of Fire sees Punisher team up with the replacement Batman (Azrael), whose tactics compliment one another. Never miss an episode by subscribing today! bit.ly/2WYvgkt #batman #punisher
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 164

  • @lorehammer40k4
    @lorehammer40k4 Рік тому +118

    Oh man, this Year of Breaking Promises sounds like it's going to be absolutely incredible.
    Best year of ComicPOP yet? Legitimately, doing a bunch of Sal's "unmentionables" just might be it, and I bet the entire population agrees.

    • @radicalraddish6292
      @radicalraddish6292 Рік тому +24

      How many months till frank Millers holy terror is my first question.

    • @paycolt2000
      @paycolt2000 Рік тому +6

      Or the nightmarish batman odyssey lol

    • @therealmallcop
      @therealmallcop Рік тому +2

      @@radicalraddish6292that would be hilarious

    • @jayrett
      @jayrett Рік тому +5

      Do I hear Alien vs Predator vs The Terminator?

  • @Iceteague1
    @Iceteague1 Рік тому +59

    You know I was re-reading Knightfall recently and I can definitely see why the writers never liked Azrael as Batman because it only worked when Bane was the main villain and once he was done, they didn't know what to do with Azrael. Plus it was kind of a joke to them to see how long people hated the change so they purposly made him stupid on the costume alone. But people loved it because it was the Image era and the Batman team was more like "Why? This is stupid!".

    • @DondarfSnowbonk
      @DondarfSnowbonk Рік тому

      My understanding was that all of that was intentional and the entire Azrael arc was planned the way it turned out from the beginning.

  • @BigTimeNico
    @BigTimeNico Рік тому +17

    Every time Sal says something to the effect of "I swore I'd never do this one", you know it's gonna be a great one

  • @SpiralSine6
    @SpiralSine6 Рік тому +34

    42:09 I love the scene where Catwoman meets Azrael Batman and just knows he’s a fake. Apparently she can “smell Batman’s pheremones” and knows that Azrael ain’t the real thing. Which makes you think of how horrible Azrael must smell because you know he isn’t showering at this point.

    • @grimnir2922
      @grimnir2922 Рік тому +3

      I love how they have to have that as an explanation, not the fact Catwoman's known Batman for *years* and this batshit madness is so out of character for Bruce in the first place.

  • @Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache
    @Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache Рік тому +32

    Punisher sees Nun spreading holy water everywhere
    Punisher: "Nuns don't work on Sunday." shoots
    Punisher, later: "Why did you have the assassin try to poison me with a neurotoxin instead of just dousing me with the rocket fuel or just shooting me?"
    Jigsaw: "...I didn't hire an assassin."
    Punisher: "..."

    • @chrisdaily2077
      @chrisdaily2077 Рік тому +11

      It's okay Punisher. Either she was a really bad nun or a really bad assassin.

    • @takeruneverborn4740
      @takeruneverborn4740 Рік тому +6

      Okay that nun was probably a former Assassin and sense the killer intent in Frank and said one more job

    • @brunoalvescataosilva6125
      @brunoalvescataosilva6125 Рік тому +10

      Meanwhile, back in New York:
      Daredevil: "I wonder how my mom is doing in Gotham..."

  • @eriksieurin334
    @eriksieurin334 Рік тому +28

    This wasn't a good episode, it was a great episode! You show that a very bad boolk also can have very good qualities and how frustrating that is.

  • @markyboyman
    @markyboyman Рік тому +155

    Would you guys consider doing a Back Issues for 'Superman Smashes the Klan' by Gene Luen Yang? It's a phenomenal story that deserves more attention.

    • @camerondodge2070
      @camerondodge2070 Рік тому +19

      That's the book based off the old radio show, right? Been meaning to read that.

    • @markyboyman
      @markyboyman Рік тому +13

      @@camerondodge2070 Pretty much, it's inspired by the Superman radio serial, "Clan of the Fiery Cross."

    • @jameskingman1227
      @jameskingman1227 Рік тому +6

      It’s excellent and really gives insight into racial perception.

    • @EtcEtcEtcFilms
      @EtcEtcEtcFilms Рік тому +5

      They totally should! A great series

    • @donb7519
      @donb7519 Рік тому +5

      one problem i can see is no way the word klan doesnt get you auto demonitized if not straight up age gated

  • @Sicod79
    @Sicod79 Рік тому +55

    Batman gaining weight on the cover was DC predicting the Dad wave of comic book readers and just knowing their audience. ;)

    • @Peecamarke
      @Peecamarke Рік тому +1

      I thought a large demographic of their readers at the time was already adult comic nerds, it just wasn’t trendy like now 🤔

  • @pbjoey703
    @pbjoey703 Рік тому +18

    Any back issues with azrael is always a fun time.

  • @Agrellar
    @Agrellar Рік тому +12

    This wasn't something you said you'd never do, but you did say maybe you'll do it someday.
    Going over Alan Moore's pitch for Twilight of the Superheroes.

  • @crimsonking440
    @crimsonking440 Рік тому +6

    Ah, so it's one of those metaphorically literal lakes of fire. I see.

  • @Grievousish
    @Grievousish Рік тому +11

    Lake of Fire is way cooler of a title then a book with Frank and Az-Bat deserves

  • @codystork3008
    @codystork3008 Рік тому +11

    Hulk Grey is another on the never do list, you mentioned it on the Spiderman Blue episode.

  • @marcushamner5994
    @marcushamner5994 Рік тому +12

    13:54 “That’s DUMAS.” I see what Ben did! He called Jean Paul Valley “DUMBASS”. I can’t breathe🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @marcamusprime9513
      @marcamusprime9513 Рік тому +1

      I’m glad someone else got this up here, too

    • @arniexvx9776
      @arniexvx9776 Рік тому

      @@marcamusprime9513 I needed someone to because I couldn't understand it

  • @nigelflood7074
    @nigelflood7074 Рік тому +5

    The last 3 episodes have been pure gold. They just keep on getting better and better.

  • @ninja1man4u
    @ninja1man4u Рік тому +8

    MARVILLE it's an incoherent nightmare realm of a book and the only metaphor I can think of is the scene in evil dead where all the stuffed animal trophies are laughing at Ash. That's a similar experience to marville

  • @chrisdaily2077
    @chrisdaily2077 Рік тому +6

    DC writers: Why don't people hate Azrael yet? It's almost like appealing to 90s comic audience makes 90s comic audience like our books.

  • @batfreeze56
    @batfreeze56 Рік тому +4

    2023 is off to an interesting start. Never thought I'd see this on the couch.

  • @codystork3008
    @codystork3008 Рік тому +9

    The employee turnover at the Gotham city water reservoir has to be insane.

  • @drewdier
    @drewdier Рік тому +5

    The dumbass/dumas joke was brilliant. Bless Ben.

  • @bensneb360
    @bensneb360 Рік тому +15

    It wouldn’t be a bad 90’s comic episode without Sal mentioning wizard magazine, the two are just intertwine

  • @samslash9
    @samslash9 Рік тому +7

    As much as Jean-Paul valley is a bit of a loon, I do love him. The new run on him is pretty good.

  • @Ducaso
    @Ducaso Рік тому +3

    “Never say never” Too true Sal, too true! 😂

  • @lukasszalbot1636
    @lukasszalbot1636 Рік тому +6

    Within a second of the episode starting I laugh out loud.
    I love this channel.

  • @christhestampeder
    @christhestampeder Рік тому +7

    I remember in a very old episode you said you'd never do Marville, and now that you've already done Death Metal, Marville is really what I'd like to see you guys cover most.

  • @terry10tnj
    @terry10tnj Рік тому +7

    Damn we are getting all kinds of books I never thought you guys would do the last couple weeks and I am LOVING it!!!!

  • @derekmccloud2884
    @derekmccloud2884 Рік тому +3

    Sal, you were right about DC being chill about the crossovers with Marvel existing. In the back of Dark Crisis Big Bang, they mention the Amalgam universe as Earth-1996

  • @Depthcharge2030
    @Depthcharge2030 Рік тому +24

    I know Az-Bat was supposed to be a take that at Image, but the first iteration of his outfit was amazing. The fact they kept messing with it is just painful.

    • @N94able
      @N94able Рік тому +7

      I think that might be why they kept messing with it.

    • @brettpritchard265
      @brettpritchard265 Рік тому +2

      They were doing it deliberately to get readers to stop liking him so much to lay the ground work for the return of the original.

  • @darkknightszy4674
    @darkknightszy4674 Рік тому +2

    Called it lol!!! “Hey man, I cheated okay?”

  • @kevinkruger1686
    @kevinkruger1686 Рік тому +12

    Please tell me y'all are going to do Darkseid vs Galactus!

  • @travis_mitchell
    @travis_mitchell Рік тому +3

    “Maybe you need to start being the right Batman. That’s why you got punished out.”

  • @Mr_Hutt
    @Mr_Hutt Рік тому +1

    53:10 the gas grenade and helmet bit is why I watch Comic Pop 😂

  • @TevyaSmolka
    @TevyaSmolka Рік тому +5

    Batman vs punisher sounds fun I am very excited to see how this turn out.

  • @jobiehearvey1212
    @jobiehearvey1212 Рік тому +5

    I wish Marvel and DC to get out there butts and just do a crossover

  • @shadowanderson2004
    @shadowanderson2004 8 місяців тому +2

    Imagining the Knightfall arc from a criminals perspective is terrifying and hilarious at the same time. Look at it this way, Batman, a guy who has put you and your friends in prison or the hospital more times than you can count. He is absolutely terrifying to you and all the people you know, and then a Luchador from out of nowhere comes and says he has killed Batman, BUT THEN Batman completely fine comes out of nowhere and tries to beat up the same Luchador but breaks his leg and then disappears again. He then comes back covered in spikes, with glowing red eyes, no face, and can shoot projectiles at you like a gun. He then almost kills the Luchador and murders another criminal instead. This terrifying creature is then kicked in mid-air by a guy wearing a disco jockey outfit. And then disappears again. Then normal Batman comes back but is slightly shorter, kind of funny, beats up two faces, then disappears again! Then the Batman from before comes back with underwear and then just goes back to beating you up as normal. That means that if someone kills Batman, he’ll just come back scarier and stupider.

  • @therealmallcop
    @therealmallcop Рік тому +4

    I’d love to see you all do Marville

  • @BigGucciCholo
    @BigGucciCholo Рік тому +3

    Youre my go to guy for comic knowledge so I for one definitely appreciate the research you do

  • @catlawyerwilldefendfortrea6038

    Any time you guys shit on Azrael it's a great time!

  • @Danial_Duval
    @Danial_Duval Рік тому +2

    If we're talking about "never-gonna-do" books, Hellboy comes to mind.

  • @cubencis
    @cubencis Рік тому +5

    Peak 90s awesomeness

  • @collinkrumrie4508
    @collinkrumrie4508 Рік тому +2

    Lake of fire, I just need everyone to know nirvana unplugged played in my head through 90% of this episode

  • @comixproviderftw_02
    @comixproviderftw_02 Рік тому +2

    43:17 That’s just heartbreaking honestly

  • @michaelbarletta1024
    @michaelbarletta1024 Рік тому +1

    45:55 if you are familiar with it that’s clearly modeled after the croton Reservoir which I did a lot of research on and had to draw myself for a project in school last year in which I adapted “The Alienist” by Caleb Carr. It takes place in the 1800s when NYC had a Reservoir just like that. It was then taken down and became the NY public library.

  • @kingsportcal
    @kingsportcal Рік тому +1

    Gotta hack that "Nastygram."

  • @Neyebureturns
    @Neyebureturns Рік тому +6

    Jean-Paul Valley believing that St. Dumas want him to be a soldier for him sounds similar to Moon Knight and Konshu, but in the Marvel Universe is real.

    • @codystork3008
      @codystork3008 Рік тому +4

      Moon Knight is Marvel's Batman and Azrael Batman is DC's Moon Knight. It's like poetry it rhymes.

  • @diegoyerse593
    @diegoyerse593 Рік тому +2

    Mark Waid's EMPIRE!!!!!!!!!!! Pls, please please!!! Been waiting on it since TVLittleHouse Year 1!

  • @R.J.Godzilla81
    @R.J.Godzilla81 Рік тому +2

    WIZARD MAGAZINE, always a trusted source. (LOL) 😅

  • @billyretrogamer
    @billyretrogamer Рік тому +1

    Starting this year off with a banger! An ab workout of laughs!

  • @abrahamrobledo5997
    @abrahamrobledo5997 Рік тому +1

    Dude…… y’all gotta do Watchmen 🤯 Sal has talked about how he would never do it….. after Rebirth and the Button, Doomsday Clock, and the Death Metal…… you gotta do Watchmen!

  • @TheBraveDessert
    @TheBraveDessert Рік тому +1

    Nomoz was in the Azreal solo series right after KnightsEnd. Nomoz with help of Azreal leads a rebellion of Trolls against the Order.

  • @GitShiddy
    @GitShiddy Рік тому +2

    Pretty sure Sal said he was never going to do No Man's Land or 52 wink wink nudge nudge.

  • @spowden
    @spowden Рік тому +1

    Marvel actually references JLA/Avengers in a semi-recent Thor book

  • @JoshMunroe
    @JoshMunroe Рік тому

    13:49 The perfect opportunity, taken.

  • @A1ml33y
    @A1ml33y Рік тому +2

    I kinda Wished Azreal/AzBats was on Batman the animated series and I kinda wish Knightfall & No Man's Land happened in the DCAU .
    But yeah I have never read this AzBats & Punisher crossover but this does sound Hilarious 😂 Lol I kinda want to check it out

  • @Insane-Howl-Cowl
    @Insane-Howl-Cowl Рік тому +2

    The Year of Broken Promises sounds like it could be the name of a Marvel OR a DC book.

  • @goodgame764
    @goodgame764 Рік тому +4

    You did Armageddon 2001 and you said you would never do that book either. What other books you don't want to do that you will end up doing.

  • @marcamusprime9513
    @marcamusprime9513 Рік тому

    13:45 Ben, your timing has finally reached perfection.

  • @codystork3008
    @codystork3008 11 місяців тому +2

    I do not know if Sal is still looking for books you said you would never do. But, I watched through the tangent playlist and Tiffany mentioned never doing another volume of Marvel's Runaways, in the Life After Runaways tangent. Just wanted to add it because I was unsure if Tiffany had a horse in the never do race.

  • @emperorhakimiv7745
    @emperorhakimiv7745 Рік тому +1

    Back should just be comics the host either hates or loves. Absolute peak of comic book UA-cam.

  • @deltaprime3509
    @deltaprime3509 Рік тому

    You guys did amazing job tearing this comic apart

  • @seadome13
    @seadome13 Рік тому

    So many references to Batman begins in this issue 🤣

  • @DentonJarad
    @DentonJarad Рік тому

    “I hope you’re lying. I still want to watch you bleed” is 2018 Steven Seagal on brand.

  • @lunchboxsuxatvideos2235
    @lunchboxsuxatvideos2235 Рік тому

    Omg. It's the aqua teen hunger force premise from the script in the live action episode. The water is infected with fire!

  • @bZman
    @bZman Рік тому +1

    You guys should do the Archers Quest in GA and I would LOVE if you guys did the Superheavy arc of Batman.

  • @armed.armadillo2638
    @armed.armadillo2638 Рік тому +1

    Time to rewatch all of back issues to see the books you'll never do, to recommend on the next off the rack

  • @Ka_Five
    @Ka_Five Рік тому +2

    Oh man we starting 2023 off STRONG
    If another crossover were to happen, I would like to see one where the Marvel heroes and the DC heroes swap places, so you'd have Daredevil dealing with Gotham villains and Batman dealing with Spider-Man villains for instance

  • @KingSandvich1
    @KingSandvich1 Рік тому +1

    Never Say Never Again? Geez, Sal really has James Bond on the mind this episode, lol

  • @Stoopid_Sandwich
    @Stoopid_Sandwich Рік тому +1

    Ooh, Sal is looking for suggestions on what other promises he can break in 2023/comics he swore he’d never tackle? How about issues 101-300 of Spawn? You guys can break it down in another delightful multi part series no problem. Tiff will probably even make you wear your Jammie’s

  • @kazual6149
    @kazual6149 Рік тому +1

    It's time for Force Works

  • @br3ndan538
    @br3ndan538 Рік тому +2

    Have you guys considered doing Batman: No Man’s Land or Batman: War Games at some point?

  • @theverminator4219
    @theverminator4219 Рік тому +2

    I’d love to see you guys cover marvel zombies, it’d be absolutely hilarious hearing ben and Ethan’s reaction to…what Spider-Man did

    • @comicpop
      @comicpop  Рік тому +8

      ua-cam.com/video/QABegYrHRW4/v-deo.html

  • @edwxx20001
    @edwxx20001 Рік тому +1

    I love how this cross over does the bad guy team-up formula for our "heroes." shows that the two aren't heroes at all

  • @JoeChillton
    @JoeChillton Рік тому +1

    I knew JPV was a bit unpopular and radical in his unhinged nature, but him driving alone and shouting into the Cave at night is funny, sad and tragic, and a harsh reminder that he cannot be Batman.
    40:44 missed opportunity for a Scotty-Computers joke from Trek IV

  • @webheadcamstudios1344
    @webheadcamstudios1344 Рік тому +1

    Happy New Year Comic Pop!

  • @brianadkins3880
    @brianadkins3880 Рік тому +3

    Sal: "You sound as crazy as an outhouse rat." lol
    Btw, any chance you'd do the crossover of the Kyle Rayner Green Lantern meeting the Silver Surfer?

  • @romejanairo4926
    @romejanairo4926 Рік тому +2

    2023 the year Sal read DC 52

  • @Sqoobthedude
    @Sqoobthedude Рік тому

    Thank god we have ethan to point out the science plot holes.

  • @A55TRICKY
    @A55TRICKY Рік тому

    Pouches: image was very popular and HUGE into pouches at the time. No joke.

  • @mikhaelgribkov4117
    @mikhaelgribkov4117 Рік тому +2

    No Man's Land this year potentially? You were showing it how big it is and saying you will never do it.

  • @nickrottkamp4933
    @nickrottkamp4933 Рік тому

    Books Sal said he’d never do??? Oh yeah! Time for the Evolutionary War!!

  • @flywheelshyster
    @flywheelshyster Рік тому +1

    Insert The Meat Puppets Lake of Fire song 🎵 here . Love it guys!

  • @fcm3d
    @fcm3d Рік тому

    Happy New Year guys and Tiff!

  • @frodrickfronkenstien582
    @frodrickfronkenstien582 Рік тому +2

    Archie v predator baby, let's get it goin.

  • @MrCeratix
    @MrCeratix Рік тому +1

    Don't know if it was ever a "never do", but I really wanna see the mess of the Korvac saga to complete the set of early Marvel crossover events!

  • @ShawnWeeded510
    @ShawnWeeded510 Рік тому +1

    IMMORTAL HULK Vol.2

  • @danielferguson5971
    @danielferguson5971 Рік тому +1

    Id say azrael is the right batman because he is what most people think punisher is. Actually a better crossover would of been azrael vs moon knight

  • @dedbatt8869
    @dedbatt8869 10 місяців тому

    13:50 😂

  • @valiantshadowproductions
    @valiantshadowproductions Рік тому +1

    I would laugh hysterically if most of 2023 was the gang doing books Sal said they would never though.

  • @Cartoonguy133
    @Cartoonguy133 Рік тому

    I have this as part of the second DC Marvel trade. Which also included the Batman Captain America crossover which is good.

  • @ArmandoFranciscoHernandez
    @ArmandoFranciscoHernandez Рік тому +2

    Something is killing the children!
    Not only should you do this series, I would especially love an episode that goes through volumes 1-3, that’s about 15 issues which isn’t too much in theory and you could cover a lot of the story in broad strokes
    Plus, it gets to be a Tiffany episode! Lol

  • @sideshow521
    @sideshow521 Рік тому

    Hey guys, sorry been awhile. I have been working bit out of state and doing some interesting projects. Anywho so I'm playing caught up and saw this video, brought me back to when this came ok. Ok context, so my cousin and I used to read comics but, I was marvel he was d.c. HInts why I love danny ketch so much. I also loved the punisher, so I get the marvel side he gets the d.c. side. I think it was like a Christmas or something. Needless to say he was very sad lol. Love y'all keep up the great work.

  • @comixproviderftw_02
    @comixproviderftw_02 Рік тому +2

    ComicPop in 2023, breaking promises

  • @ninja1man4u
    @ninja1man4u Рік тому +2

    Oh dear...it's azbat

  • @scoobers90
    @scoobers90 Рік тому +1

    Credit where credit's due. Lake of Fire is a cool title...

  • @karl_alan
    @karl_alan Рік тому +1

    I can only think of four things you've said you'd never do: DC trinity war, another venom miniseries (i wanna say specifically the madness, or one of the other specific ones you did on gbu), another wildcats crossover event because of the low view count of the jla wildcats one, and watchmen because everyone in your group already read it.

  • @griseldarodriquez2905
    @griseldarodriquez2905 Рік тому +1

    I was hoping the first issue would appear on a good the bad and the ugly episode but taking the whole story is good as well.

  • @SkylightCiel
    @SkylightCiel Рік тому +1

    I love overly design stupid characters a lot but I have never once thought that Azrael Batman looks cool. It just looks wrong.

  • @the_rose_garden01
    @the_rose_garden01 Рік тому +1

    Day 1 of asking for Frank Miller's Holy Terror in celebration of this New Year of Broken Promises

  • @JohnelLance
    @JohnelLance Рік тому +1

    So if it is the year of doing comics you said you wouldn't do. Are we going to get an episode on Pleasent Hill?

  • @Odyssey1997
    @Odyssey1997 Рік тому +2

    Another great video like all was guys. Do the sword of Azrael 2022 comic books series. I really want to know your guys opinion on it.