I'm still sad the Chargers moved to LA! The great Charger fans got screwed and deserve so much better! I do hope San Diego gets a new NBA and or a NHL team because they are great fans of sports!
I'd like to see the NBA go back to San Diego, but having lost both the Rockets and the Clippers the NHL may be a more realistic goal. Although to be fair the whole deal with the Clippers was all about Donald Sterling wanting the Clippers in LA, didn't matter the support they had in SD, had he not owned them I think they may have stayed and possibly got a new arena by the mid to late 90s.
@@scotttild Difference is Sterling never had any intention of keeping the Clippers in San Diego when he bought them, his plan all along was to move them to LA. The Spanos family at least made a go of it in San Diego ever since they gained full control of the Chargers back in 84 up until 2016. You are correct though in that the city did not make it easy to get a new stadium, I still remember that proposal they had to build downtown like 3 blocks east of Petco Park. Also Dean wanted a massive public handout that just wasn't going to happen.
Both Expansionteamsfor NBA and NHL would be awesome. I prefer COYOTES relocating to SLC and rebrand as the UTAH SWARM. The DUCKS can relocate toSD and Gulls can relocate to ANAHEIM.
Great idea... except, the GULLS name stays in San Diego with the NHL team... the DUCKS get demoted to AHL... just swap the players and coaches/front office.
3:06 The renderings actually have some AHL action on the video board - the San Diego Gulls. The arena would primarily be for them, concerts, and other events.
San Diego Legion are so much fun to watch. Rugby is an amazing sport. Players are so humble. No pads. No helmets. No time outs. No commercials. Raw collision sport. Love Major League Rugby
USF is probably in the top 20 as far as enrollment,not as much as UCF or FIU,other Florida universities in the top 10 with enrollment over 50K but USF is still a major university.The thing about these schools are that they're mostly commuter schools that are never going to draw like major college towns.
San Diego should have never lost the Chargers. The fans supported that team and the NFL ripped them out of there. They did have a NBA at one time in the Clippers and that didn't work out. They even had a WHA team in the Mariners. But I would love to see San Diego get a NHL team as they only have one pro team now. And it would be great to have a 4th California team in the league. Right away they would have 3 great rivals. 4 if you count Seattle.
They didn’t support the Chargers. There was a proposal to have rental car tax and hotel tax, go to paying for the new football stadium, and it was voted down by the citizens. So how can you say they supported the team.
@@joek9353 But the stadium was always full of fans. But that is a great point you made and I did not know about that. So in a big way it is their fault they lost the team.
@@joek9353I supported the chargers all my life and I voted no for that, most of us did. Long story, but our owner was trying to shaft us. Vote had nothing to do with our love for the team
Like to see Houston and this one, San Diego to add the NHL teams to add up to 12 NHL teams in the south and southwest with little or no winter. Florida Panthers, Tampa Bay Lightning, Carolina Hurricanes, Dallas Stars, Las Vegas Golden Knights, Arizona Coyotes (now Utah), Los Angeles Kings, Los Angeles Ducks, San Jose Sharks, and Nashville Predators.
I don't think they are seriously expecting San Diego to get an NHL or NBA team. But I do hope the arena is capable of accommodating such a team, since you never know when a team will be looking to relocate. Having a suitable arena in place is a huge advantage in attracting a team desperate to relocate.
San Diego is a really bro-e city so hockey would fit right in. But I can’t see an NBA team there. The only issue I see with this project is that the location is not a very attractive one for those not attending games. The Gaslamp pulls in too many people and this particular location is surrounded by warehouses and not particularly popular. Plus, by the looks of the project, parking is going to be a huge issue as there are no nearby lots and no space.
I’m wondering if the city could encourage breweries to set up shop if the warehouses are sold or turn the warehouse areas into parking provided that the warehouses are sold. You are right about the warehouses as I used to drive by them when I went to see Gulls games back in 2003.
Very likely that it'll stay with the current tenants of the Pechanga Arena (AKA the San Diego Sports Arena) - those being the AHL's San Diego Gulls (a affiliate of the Anaheim Ducks), the MASL San Diego Sockers, the NLL's San Diego Seals, and the IFL's San Diego Strike Force. I really don't see either the NBA or NHL coming to San Diego anytime soon. Of interesting note - the reason there is affordable housing in the project is because in the past, the City of San Diego got sued for trying to redevelop the area before and lost because they failed to do a Environmental Impact Report AND ran afoul of a California State Law called the Surplus Land Act. So the City was basically forced to start over from scratch and put up basically period where there were several teams who put together bids to redevelop the area (which all of them were forcibly included with Affordable Housing to comply with State Law). In a unsurprising move - there is also another pending lawsuit from the same group who sued and won last time. All of which to say - they won't even break ground until 2025 at the earliest. So I wouldn't expect any Major League team to move there in the next 4 to 6 years.
@@dreamcage1801 there's a 2 year time frame where they discuss the proposal and make the necessary changes. but that is not guaranteed, and if they finalize the plan before 2025, then we're looking at 2024 sometime.
Yeah scrap the billion dollar arena under construction in Inglewood to move back to a city that had 2 attempts at nba and a smaller fanbase. Great take!
There are too many NBA and NHL teams in CA. Specifically NHL in So Cal. There shouldn't be a relocation to San Diego unless it's the Ducks or LA Kings move. The only way I see an NHL team moving to CA is if it's in Northern CA
I'm happy about the money and investment, being that Stan Kronke is affiliated with the Denver Nuggets/ Colorado Avalanche. However it would seem that he intends to bring minor league investment to San Diego. This project looks like a glorified minor league project than an NBA/NHL-worthy arena anyway. I remember as a kid when the Lakers with Magic Johnson came to the old Sports Arena during the NBA preseason. Not sure what to make of this, but San Diegans should be ecstatic to have Kronke on board, but whatever he is up to I hope that he scraps the Midway project and starts from scratch. The arena looks like a tribute to Pringles chips. If they keep this North County hill billy design (totally corny) they should print the Pringles logo on the roof and seek an endorsement deal.
hopefully we bait a franchise to move here. afraid its not going to happen via expansion however. at any rate, its refreshing to finally see the small town mentality dwindling down
Just about anything would be an improvement from that g-d desert. However, the Coyotes are in the NHL's Central Division and they can stay there if they move to Houston or Salt Lake City.
Baq in da day, the owners of the Buffalo Braves (SD/LA CLIPPERS) swapped franchises with the Boston Celtics. NBA wouldn't let the Celtics move to California... FACTS.
Clippers back in San Diego would be fire, but realistically it could bring the Pelicans out of NOLA. Ducks could relocate to there from the Honda Center!
move anaheim ducks there because it's within an area where old fans of the ducks can still go they can make new fans also the ducks would get a state of the art arena i think that's what would be best
As much as I believe San Diego is a dying sports market, I think this would be the only way this could maybe save them as major sports city, and also the San Diego Mighty Ducks has a good ring to it too. I don’t know about them getting the NBA, however but we’ll see on that.
As a Canadian and an NFL fan, nothing would suit me better than to see San Diego realize the return of the Chargers. L.A. isn't a Chargers town. It's a Raiders town. Maybe the NBA could help fill the void for a bit.
As a long time SD resident, I can say that our current local leadership is inept and incompetent. So recruiting and putting together a building project to secure another major league team is out of the question. With that said, I have a feeling that SD became 2nd tier city status in the eyes of the major leagues. Due to being close to LA and getting screwed by shitty owners. (spanus and sterling) In respects to the spots arena, I do think an NHL team can thrive. SD is “weird” in that way.
I do agree California won’t get an expansion team but definitely a relocation will take place and it’s the Anaheim Ducks that will move to San Diego so that each region in Southern California will have a NHL Team Kings in Los Angeles and Ducks in San Diego.
If they build a new stadium, it needs to be downtown. Having a baseball stadium, an arena, and a football stadium in the different parts of San Diego is kind of dumb imo. They need to just have a new arena next to the convention center and Petco Park.
So Winnipeg should lose their team because YOU don't want them there? Do you live in San Diego now? What about those revenue-draining Arizona Coyotes?(!) The Jets aren't going anywhere, Mr. Benedict Arnold!
@@coreylevine8095 Do some research. They no longer have a season ticket waiting list, demand has dropped. They do not sell out all of their games in the smallest rink in the league. It has now been proven that FA do not want to go there. It is a lame duck team. FIRE CHEVY! Fuck Mark Chipman.
San Diego is such a big market for only one main professional sport team plus mls ( 2025 ) . But I don’t see NBA giving California a 5 th team . NHL by relocation is the most likely one .
But wouldn't you say there is more demand for basketball in California than there is for hockey? I would think so. Besides, with the Chargers gone, the San Diego sports market is underserved.
@@reesechisholm4915Hasn’t the ground underneath our feet grown less stable this spring? Concerned about the end of the world because the Kings made the playoffs.
Rockets got sold to owners who NEVER intended to keep the rockets in SD and we all know what a dnag Sterling is! He ruined his fanbase in SD and then moved to LA with out permission
San Diego could get a football team…a USFL team. And what’s wrong with the San Diego Sports Arena? 😂😂😂 Yeah…this is so old, the San Diego Clippers played there before moving to the Los Angeles Sports Arena…next to the LA Coliseum. And let’s not forget Kemper Arena in Kansas City. How’d that work out for getting a NBA franchise back in KC???
I don't see Denver losing it teams if you think the hate that people in St Louis have for Stan Denver will be 100 time worst because the just won the Championship in both the NHL and a NBA
The current arena holds 12,920 for hockey--a few hundred more for basketball. The proposed arena is too small in any event for the NBA or NHL, and the renderings are several years old. San Diego has already lost 2 NBA teams, and I doubt the Ducks and Kings would be too thrilled to have another team 100 miles to the south regarding the NHL.
Could be a re-location option for yotes. and no competition outside of padres who play in summer. Yet nhl doesn't need a fourth cali team and sd would be too close to la teams and vgk. Maybe move quacks down there. And slc has a leg up on everyone with a multi billionaire-jazz owner smyth-wanting an nhl team and is already in talks with nhl for yotes. Plus slc could get winter olympics and a nice shiny new arena that comes with it. Vivint will only work short term. sd lost nba rockets and clippers plus once had aba conquistadors. Had wha mariners too that didn't last so sd record of basketball/hockey not that great. And no owner for sd nhl team has been named. Kroenke can't own multiple teams in nhl.
The gulls hockey team has had the best attendance in IHL for years. SD will support hockey. I grew up in San Diego County playing hockey. San Diego is pretty hockey crazy, believe it or not.
There is not enough corporate sponsorships for any new team. Franchise values do not increase in S.D. as fast as other cities like L.A. Our fans are passionate towards NHL based on Gulls attendance when the team was good. I won't go see Coyotes.
@@jasonhiedo NBA team would kill it in San Diego since the Chargers dipped. Since they’re bunch of Lakers fans in San Diego they would thrive with their own them from day 1. Team name should be the Sails and their team color should be royal blue, grass green, navy blue and white.
@@jasonhiedo Chargers and Clippers shouldn’t have never left San Diego from jump street. I believe that San Diego is going to get a NBA team over Mexico City because it’s a Latin city and Kroenke is going to build a new art of the art arena which will make San Diegans very electric about getting NBA team this time around. As for the Chargers sake LA fans aren’t feeling them like they do the Rams similar to the Lakers. Chargers belong in San Diego and I truly believe that they will reunite one day and gotta find the right person to build a new NFL arena in San Diego and hope the Spanos sell the team.
Wait a minute so now they want to build a arena but don't want to build the stadium 🏟️ for the chargers 😂 smh but one can think that it's all Spanos fault 🤷🏾♂️
spanos was only willing to drop 200 million, and did not want a new stadium in mission valley. he ran the team into the ground and announced carson. its literally how it was played out with fischer and the A's. Only difference is the city of SD was ready to go, for mission valley...........Spanos got what he deserved: lost the city that loved the Chargers, is now in ther bottom half of attendance in the NFL (AFTER moving to SOFi), 16 away games and 6th in local ratings, LMAO :D
I can't see the NHL expanding to 4 California teams and the NBA expanding to 5 California teams right now. But San Diego definitely deserves another major sports team or 2. Not counting the MLS which they will get a team in 2025 i believe
@@dreamcage1801 The guy building the arena already owns an NBA and NHL franchise. In both leagues you can't have multiple ownership of teams. Explain how this works? If anything it will be for a minor league team and concerts. The seating capacity is 16000 for the proposed arena, the city lost 2 nba teams and the chargers and gained mls now. It's more of a real estate development.
@@dreamcage1801 The NBA is adding 2 expansion franchises in Seattle and Vegas.... which NBA team are you proposing goes up for sale then bought by Stan's son and gets league approval from all owners to move the team? Same with the NHL... the league has the Houston Rockets ownership waiting to buy the Coyotes and move them to Toyota Center... would you pick a 4th largest market in USA or add another California team?
Would probably have to be via relocation, I feel like Seattle is a lock for the likely upcoming Western Conference expansion team. Memphis, Minnesota, and NOLA seem like potential options.
@@recurrenTopology I've heard about the Pelicans possibly relocating, but all the way to Seattle? Sacramento would be a more likely candidate, would they not?
@@FischerFan Sacramento has a 30 more years on their stadium lease. While it could break it, that would be expensive. And I don't think NOLA would move to Seattle, they'd move to SD. Seattle is probably getting an expansion which resurrects the Super Sonics.
@@recurrenTopology With the NHL now in Seattle, I think the strategy of trying to get the NBA back may now be in the cards, and yes, most likely via expansion.
Different time different era for the NBA part. NFL part Spanos is a total prick who doesn’t spend no damn money. San Diego deserves another shot of a nba team. America is the land of second chances.
Both the NBA and NHL will not allow a team owner with ownership of multiple franchises in their respective leagues. Stan owns the Nuggets and Avalanche. He will not move his teams from those markets to San Diego. This is going to be for a minor league team and more of a real estate development ... look at the units and arena capacity. You are all delusional if you think the NBA wants another California team in a failed market twice with the Rockets and Clippers. The Coyotes could move under a new ownership team if they are willing to pay rent to Stan... most likely won't happen. NBA is going to Seattle and Vegas. The Gulls are owned by the Ducks... they also won't play in someone else's arena.
@@dreamcage1801 You came out 4 months later to reply. Do this favor... go to google and type in recent nba expansion news and read the next few cities considered after seattle and vegas which is mentioned by Adam Silver. Tell us where San Diego is gaining traction. However you do make an effort to sell your idea. Vancouver or Montreal are on the radar. Don't fight it you are wasting your energy.
This would be great for getting the Coyotes from the Phoenix area, where they have no arena. Kroenke has the money and clout to make this happen. Build this arena and a team should come.
@@dreamcage1801 That's because of poor management by stu Jackson not because of the fan base. Educate yourself. Even the NBA admits they screwed up not helping the Vancouver situation. Its a great basketball city with former NBA ties, international flavour and brings a rival to west coast teams and raptors, population of approximately 3 mil in the greater area and a sport city with the Canucks, Whitecaps and Olympics.
Too small for NHL or NBA. NHL wouldn't go with the Ducks so close. Maybe if in 20 years and the Ducks need a new arena they'd move to San Diego. Not now, Honda Center is still a nice arena.
@@dreamcage1801 no they’re not , I’ve probably been on this planet longer than you . And my family is from SD , it’s not happening, go support the kings and clippers
@@dreamcage1801 no they aren’t , SD will never have another NBA team after the clippers , LV, Seattle, KC, all have an arena ready to go for NBA. As for the NHL , San Diego has never really publicly expressed interest ever in the NHL besides the gulls
Highly doubt for S/D NBA & NHL teams due to Orange County pro-sports teams as part of S/D territory. Funny, b/c of S/D to award as 30th MLS team. We shall see by how S/D will be viable pro-sports town. S/D Padres will be a future relocation to SLC as the UT Mormons. Since SLC have interest for an MLB team expansion this 2020s decade. S/D like OAK to S/F is a shadow city of L/A. CA has geographical saturations between both SFBA & LAMA pro-sports markets.
Anaheim Ducks become San Diego Gulls and current San Diego Gulls relocate to Oceanside under a different name such as Oceanside Stingrays and maybe get Los Angeles Clippers Games at the new San Diego Arena for presseaon games.
I'm still sad the Chargers moved to LA! The great Charger fans got screwed and deserve so much better! I do hope San Diego gets a new NBA and or a NHL team because they are great fans of sports!
I believe that a NBA team would be electric in San Diego
LA Chargers ⚡️⚡️⚡️ LFG!!
I have so many wonderful memories of watching the Sockers, Gulls, and Riptide at Pechanga Arena. I even volunteered at a Japan Fest there in 2005.
I remember the WHA Mariners there in mid-70's, I was 14-17yo, and would take the bus, then later my Dad's 67 Chevelle wagon w/327-4bbl.
me too! 10 Indoor Titles in 11 years
It’s still bullshit the chargers left Diego. La is a rams town.
Naw fam LA is a chargers town now! ⚡️⚡️⚡️🙌
I remember when the NBA Clippers were in San Diego before relocating to Los Angeles.
San Diego would embrace a new team after losing the Chargers, would love to see it.
Things are looking up as MLS will begin play in America’s Finest City in 2025.
@@chrisbunkaas an atlanta united fan, excited to see what mls would look like in san diego
NBA team playing there would be electrified
@@anthonyrivera3520 comeback is always a good thing. LL cool j: don’t call it a comeback, I’ve been there for years, making the team…
@anthonyrivera3509 And let’s not forget San Diego State making it to the Final Four earlier this year.
I'd like to see the NBA go back to San Diego, but having lost both the Rockets and the Clippers the NHL may be a more realistic goal. Although to be fair the whole deal with the Clippers was all about Donald Sterling wanting the Clippers in LA, didn't matter the support they had in SD, had he not owned them I think they may have stayed and possibly got a new arena by the mid to late 90s.
@@scotttild Difference is Sterling never had any intention of keeping the Clippers in San Diego when he bought them, his plan all along was to move them to LA. The Spanos family at least made a go of it in San Diego ever since they gained full control of the Chargers back in 84 up until 2016. You are correct though in that the city did not make it easy to get a new stadium, I still remember that proposal they had to build downtown like 3 blocks east of Petco Park. Also Dean wanted a massive public handout that just wasn't going to happen.
Don't forget the ABA San Diego Conquistadors, and later the San Diego Sails in the mid-70's
@@blunderbuss999 bring that back to the NBA: San Diego Sails
@@joecostantino3684 I hated sterling who should have never been a owner from the get go
Its a new arena for the Ducks minor league team "San Diego Gulls" to replace the very old San Diego Sports arena.
Source?
@@jonahbartolomehe fact Kroenke already has an NBA and NHL team in Denver and the Gulls are literally on the renderings 😂
do you honestly think Stan Kroenke would get involved to build a AHL level arena?
@@jeffwarren1242 He would be just the landlord
Both Expansionteamsfor NBA and NHL would be awesome. I prefer COYOTES relocating to SLC and rebrand as the UTAH SWARM. The DUCKS can relocate toSD and Gulls can relocate to ANAHEIM.
would like Ducks in san diego. they get lost in LA and hockey isn't popular enough in LA to keep 2 teams . Houston gets coyotes
Great idea... except, the GULLS name stays in San Diego with the NHL team... the DUCKS get demoted to AHL... just swap the players and coaches/front office.
@samelmudir Hella yeah
@@blunderbuss999 hopefully sooner than later.
San Diego Sharks would be a great nba team name
These renderings were originally for the GULLS since their current arena is beyond old. Before I left San Diego (2018) these were introduced.
3:06 The renderings actually have some AHL action on the video board - the San Diego Gulls. The arena would primarily be for them, concerts, and other events.
NBA coming to San Diego would be electric since the Chargers left town.
San Diego Clippers!
@@shrim1481 Clippers having their own arena in Inglewood. San Diego having their own expansion and start from scratch.
@@dreamcage1801 San Diego Sharks sounds nice for the team name
@@Cobra-eu5pc oh yes it’s does and they can be a mean ass shark 🦈 like Jaws and Deep blue sea
San Diego Legion are so much fun to watch. Rugby is an amazing sport. Players are so humble. No pads. No helmets. No time outs. No commercials. Raw collision sport. Love Major League Rugby
Vegas and Seattle, maybe 2 reactions, San Diego and another
Kansas City, Louisville and Pittsburgh
USF is probably in the top 20 as far as enrollment,not as much as UCF or FIU,other Florida universities in the top 10 with enrollment over 50K but USF is still a major university.The thing about these schools are that they're mostly commuter schools that are never going to draw like major college towns.
Certainly not being in their conference and with (like you said) the commuter nature. Drawing 1/5th of Ohio State on a consistent basis would be a win
San Diego should have never lost the Chargers. The fans supported that team and the NFL ripped them out of there. They did have a NBA at one time in the Clippers and that didn't work out. They even had a WHA team in the Mariners. But I would love to see San Diego get a NHL team as they only have one pro team now. And it would be great to have a 4th California team in the league. Right away they would have 3 great rivals. 4 if you count Seattle.
They didn’t support the Chargers. There was a proposal to have rental car tax and hotel tax, go to paying for the new football stadium, and it was voted down by the citizens. So how can you say they supported the team.
@@joek9353 But the stadium was always full of fans. But that is a great point you made and I did not know about that. So in a big way it is their fault they lost the team.
@@joek9353I supported the chargers all my life and I voted no for that, most of us did. Long story, but our owner was trying to shaft us. Vote had nothing to do with our love for the team
NBA team to SD would kill it and chargers will return to SD one day
Like to see Houston and this one, San Diego to add the NHL teams to add up to 12 NHL teams in the south and southwest with little or no winter. Florida Panthers, Tampa Bay Lightning, Carolina Hurricanes, Dallas Stars, Las Vegas Golden Knights, Arizona Coyotes (now Utah), Los Angeles Kings, Los Angeles Ducks, San Jose Sharks, and Nashville Predators.
If San Diego were to get an NBA or NHL team, I hope they'd name it the Anchormen.
Stay Classy, San Diego🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
San Diego Sails - NBA team
I don't think they are seriously expecting San Diego to get an NHL or NBA team. But I do hope the arena is capable of accommodating such a team, since you never know when a team will be looking to relocate. Having a suitable arena in place is a huge advantage in attracting a team desperate to relocate.
Coyotes are playing in a 4,500 seat arena right now i think the coyotes could really be a possibility
Don’t be negative! Be optimistic or better yet have some hope
The Sports Arena needs a rebuild..
Yes it do looking more grandpop
It needs to be demolished. It's way too obsolete. If San Diego wants major League teams, they need a new arena built.
@@sjdrifter72 absolutely
Affordable housing??? Ya right lol
The city doesn't want that in prime real estate.
San Diego need a NFL team again
Also an NBA team
I agree
Nope - NFL is too woke... jettisoning the Spanos extortionists was the best thing to happen to SD ever.
@@blunderbuss999can yall stfu with this woke talk and be normal people again??😂
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Affordable housing in California?
San Diego is a really bro-e city so hockey would fit right in. But I can’t see an NBA team there.
The only issue I see with this project is that the location is not a very attractive one for those not attending games. The Gaslamp pulls in too many people and this particular location is surrounded by warehouses and not particularly popular. Plus, by the looks of the project, parking is going to be a huge issue as there are no nearby lots and no space.
San Diego used to have the Rockets and the Clippers but they have since moved to Houston (Rockets) and LA (Clippers)
I’m wondering if the city could encourage breweries to set up shop if the warehouses are sold or turn the warehouse areas into parking provided that the warehouses are sold. You are right about the warehouses as I used to drive by them when I went to see Gulls games back in 2003.
@@chrisbunkaYou think the city would need to ENCOURAGE breweries? Dude…
mad bro-e
Bring NHL hockey to San Diego!
Get the NBA basketball 🏀 to San Diego too
Very likely that it'll stay with the current tenants of the Pechanga Arena (AKA the San Diego Sports Arena) - those being the AHL's San Diego Gulls (a affiliate of the Anaheim Ducks), the MASL San Diego Sockers, the NLL's San Diego Seals, and the IFL's San Diego Strike Force. I really don't see either the NBA or NHL coming to San Diego anytime soon.
Of interesting note - the reason there is affordable housing in the project is because in the past, the City of San Diego got sued for trying to redevelop the area before and lost because they failed to do a Environmental Impact Report AND ran afoul of a California State Law called the Surplus Land Act. So the City was basically forced to start over from scratch and put up basically period where there were several teams who put together bids to redevelop the area (which all of them were forcibly included with Affordable Housing to comply with State Law). In a unsurprising move - there is also another pending lawsuit from the same group who sued and won last time.
All of which to say - they won't even break ground until 2025 at the earliest. So I wouldn't expect any Major League team to move there in the next 4 to 6 years.
They said they’ll open in 2025
@@dreamcage1801 they are gonna start construction in 2025
@@Cobra-eu5pcwhy 2025 tho?
@@dreamcage1801 there's a 2 year time frame where they discuss the proposal and make the necessary changes. but that is not guaranteed, and if they finalize the plan before 2025, then we're looking at 2024 sometime.
@@vasiliosthomas4883 oh okay next year would be a piece of cake 🍰 though
If the coyotes move to San Diego they have to be called the San Diego seals and the nba team to be called the “fleet”
his voice makes everything sound urgent, which is why I watch 🚨
A relocation NHL or NBA franchise will occupy this arena.
Nah. /
Nba expansion can possibly be a shot too
LA Clippers can move back to San Diego
Yeah scrap the billion dollar arena under construction in Inglewood to move back to a city that had 2 attempts at nba and a smaller fanbase. Great take!
San Diego has both NBA & NHL teams in an arena!☀☀☀☀☀☀🏀🏀🏀🏀🏀🏀🏒🏒🏒🏒🏒🏒
Groundbreaking starts next year at the earliest likely
San Diego 💪🏽
I live in San Marcos which is in Northern San Diego county this is being talk about to do a new Arena for the San Diego Gulls of the AHL.
No public funding appetite in SD. Limited TV market vs. what else is in play.
There are too many NBA and NHL teams in CA. Specifically NHL in So Cal. There shouldn't be a relocation to San Diego unless it's the Ducks or LA Kings move. The only way I see an NHL team moving to CA is if it's in Northern CA
La Kings not moving stop the cap
San Diego can possibly get a NBA team this time around
Ducks are staying put they’re not leaving Anaheim
@@alfonsohernandez1982 I don't believe either are. That's why I don't see an NHL team going to SD
I'm happy about the money and investment, being that Stan Kronke is affiliated with the Denver Nuggets/ Colorado Avalanche. However it would seem that he intends to bring minor league investment to San Diego. This project looks like a glorified minor league project than an NBA/NHL-worthy arena anyway. I remember as a kid when the Lakers with Magic Johnson came to the old Sports Arena during the NBA preseason. Not sure what to make of this, but San Diegans should be ecstatic to have Kronke on board, but whatever he is up to I hope that he scraps the Midway project and starts from scratch. The arena looks like a tribute to Pringles chips. If they keep this North County hill billy design (totally corny) they should print the Pringles logo on the roof and seek an endorsement deal.
Very confident that an NBA will come to San Diego
@@dreamcage1801 What makes you so sure? Failed Rockets, Failed Clippers?
@@user-ml9ji8lo9q different time! This time this is different.
@@dreamcage1801 Would be nice but I'm selling.
@@user-ml9ji8lo9q never give up hope buddy
hopefully we bait a franchise to move here. afraid its not going to happen via expansion however. at any rate, its refreshing to finally see the small town mentality dwindling down
Nba expansion possibly
The Coyotes relocating to San Diego would work far better than their near 30 year stay in Arizona. Instant rivalry with both the Kings and Ducks.
Just about anything would be an improvement from that g-d desert. However, the Coyotes are in the NHL's Central Division and they can stay there if they move to Houston or Salt Lake City.
The Winnipeg Jets can possibly relocate to San Diego and be named the mariners and NBA team be named the Jets
Coyotes should move to SD lol
Doesn't Stan Kroenke own the Denver Nuggets? If they get the Coyotes, they'll probably be called the San Diego Gulls.
I heard he cant own 2 teams of the same sport but he can sell one and buy another and relocate them
@@Cobra-eu5pc probably get his son to buy another team if needed.
Baq in da day, the owners of the Buffalo Braves (SD/LA CLIPPERS) swapped franchises with the Boston Celtics. NBA wouldn't let the Celtics move to California... FACTS.
Y not his son should try 2 buy da YOTES.
Keep the TUCSON ROADRUNNERS. Relocate and rebrand the old SD GULLS to the UTAH SWARM. They can still keep their affiliation with the ANAHEIM DUCKS.
Stan kroenke involved it will get done good luck san diego
NBA team coming to San Diego bol. Yeah!
Clippers back in San Diego would be fire, but realistically it could bring the Pelicans out of NOLA. Ducks could relocate to there from the Honda Center!
youre saying the Ducks and Pelicans relocate to San Diego.. ? .. That would be f' n awesome..
What’s South Florida got to do with San Diego?
move anaheim ducks there because it's within an area where old fans of the ducks can still go they can make new fans also the ducks would get a state of the art arena i think that's what would be best
ducks just singed a 30 year lease in Anaheim they arnt going nowhere best bet is Coyotes
The current name is Pechanga Arena San Diego but to me it will always be call “The Sports Arena” since I grew up going there so many times
Future Midway rising center
@@dreamcage1801 yup
@@davidtitorivera than a NBA team will play there against the Celtics
@@dreamcage1801 yup but I think the Celtics played their road games in San Diego against either the Rockets or Clippers
@@davidtitorivera I would say the Rockets 🚀 because because they are physical team
Cities with really old arenas y stadium should update new buildings like this arena
As much as I believe San Diego is a dying sports market, I think this would be the only way this could maybe save them as major sports city, and also the San Diego Mighty Ducks has a good ring to it too. I don’t know about them getting the NBA, however but we’ll see on that.
As a Canadian and an NFL fan, nothing would suit me better than to see San Diego realize the return of the Chargers. L.A. isn't a Chargers town. It's a Raiders town.
Maybe the NBA could help fill the void for a bit.
Yes, move the Ducks to San Diego. San Diego supports their minor league team better than Anaheim supports their NHL team.
@@ErnestGoesToMadeas No, merge the Ducks with the Kings so as to have one less sun belt team.
Move the Coyotes North or Northeast.
@@FischerFanStep aside.
All your hockey are belong to the WEST SIDE!
@@ErnestGoesToMadeas The Ducks are going nowhere, as they have an agreement in place to stay in Anaheim through at least 2048.
As a long time SD resident, I can say that our current local leadership is inept and incompetent. So recruiting and putting together a building project to secure another major league team is out of the question.
With that said, I have a feeling that SD became 2nd tier city status in the eyes of the major leagues. Due to being close to LA and getting screwed by shitty owners. (spanus and sterling)
In respects to the spots arena, I do think an NHL team can thrive. SD is “weird” in that way.
Kroenke owns 90 percent of the new arena now
"And now, get on your feet to welcome your San Diego Ducks!" Only way they get NHL is if the ducks move from Anaheim.
Anchorman for the real name stay classy San Diego 👌🏻😄
Hopefully San Diego targets an NBA. 16k would be on the smaller side.
Yeah. They are going to invest into the area and build “affordable housing”.
NHL??? Anaheim has the DUCKS
Coyotes can move to SD
Would be a complete waste of money. Nobody wants to go inside in the city with the most predictably nice weather on the planet.
Add 2k seats and lets get the NBA in here with a fresh start expansion team. Lets see Seattle, KC, SD, LV Teams!
Pittsburgh can get a NBA team I’m hearing
NHL will not expand to another California city… won’t happen !
Yes it can
I do agree California won’t get an expansion team but definitely a relocation will take place and it’s the Anaheim Ducks that will move to San Diego so that each region in Southern California will have a NHL Team Kings in Los Angeles and Ducks in San Diego.
@@Itshadow306 coyotes
@@Itshadow306 you think so ? Ducks relocating that’s a interesting topic I personally wouldn’t see it happening but who knows
@@dreamcage1801 won’t happen !
Coyotes are the only team that would move there
Nah. /
This is very similar
John fisher sell the athletics to Oakland California if you want your own mlb team make it yourself
NBA Life In The Spirit City Of California!
#OhGoodness!
If they build a new stadium, it needs to be downtown. Having a baseball stadium, an arena, and a football stadium in the different parts of San Diego is kind of dumb imo. They need to just have a new arena next to the convention center and Petco Park.
Midway rising is gonna be remodeled with a brand new arena
Move the Winnipeg Jets to San Diego.
And I am originally from Winnipeg. What a shithole.
They just got there
So Winnipeg should lose their team because YOU don't want them there? Do you live in San Diego now?
What about those revenue-draining Arizona Coyotes?(!)
The Jets aren't going anywhere, Mr. Benedict Arnold!
@@coreylevine8095 Do some research. They no longer have a season ticket waiting list, demand has dropped. They do not sell out all of their games in the smallest rink in the league. It has now been proven that FA do not want to go there. It is a lame duck team.
FIRE CHEVY!
Fuck Mark Chipman.
@@FischerFan time will tell.
San Diego is such a big market for only one main professional sport team plus mls ( 2025 ) . But I don’t see NBA giving California a 5 th team . NHL by relocation is the most likely one .
But wouldn't you say there is more demand for basketball in California than there is for hockey?
I would think so.
Besides, with the Chargers gone, the San Diego sports market is underserved.
@@FischerFan yes it is and San Diego deserves an NBA team again
Do a MLS stadium ranking.
They already lost the Rockets & Clippers... I could see the Coyotes relocating there! (Slim chance of the Clippers or Kings heading there)
Clippers ain't ever returning to San Diego with their new Intuit Dome arena opening next year in Inglewood.
Kings just got a new arena in 2016
@@reesechisholm4915Hasn’t the ground underneath our feet grown less stable this spring?
Concerned about the end of the world because the Kings made the playoffs.
Rockets got sold to owners who NEVER intended to keep the rockets in SD and we all know what a dnag Sterling is! He ruined his fanbase in SD and then moved to LA with out permission
The Clippers haven’t been relevant since they left Buffalo.
San Diego could get a football team…a USFL team. And what’s wrong with the San Diego Sports Arena? 😂😂😂
Yeah…this is so old, the San Diego Clippers played there before moving to the Los Angeles Sports Arena…next to the LA Coliseum.
And let’s not forget Kemper Arena in Kansas City. How’d that work out for getting a NBA franchise back in KC???
XFL team too
I don't see Denver losing it teams if you think the hate that people in St Louis have for Stan Denver will be 100 time worst because the just won the Championship in both the NHL and a NBA
The current arena holds 12,920 for hockey--a few hundred more for basketball. The proposed arena is too small in any event for the NBA or NHL, and the renderings are several years old.
San Diego has already lost 2 NBA teams, and I doubt the Ducks and Kings would be too thrilled to have another team 100 miles to the south regarding the NHL.
San Diego deserves another shot of having a nba team again
You lost me at affordable housing. 😆
Take back the Clippers loljk 😂
Could be a re-location option for yotes. and no competition outside of padres who play in summer. Yet nhl doesn't need a fourth cali team and sd would be too close to la teams and vgk. Maybe move quacks down there. And slc has a leg up on everyone with a multi billionaire-jazz owner smyth-wanting an nhl team and is already in talks with nhl for yotes. Plus slc could get winter olympics and a nice shiny new arena that comes with it. Vivint will only work short term. sd lost nba rockets and clippers plus once had aba conquistadors. Had wha mariners too that didn't last so sd record of basketball/hockey not that great. And no owner for sd nhl team has been named. Kroenke can't own multiple teams in nhl.
The gulls hockey team has had the best attendance in IHL for years. SD will support hockey. I grew up in San Diego County playing hockey. San Diego is pretty hockey crazy, believe it or not.
@@brandongilligan6893 were in ihl. now in ahl.
Nah. Not no competition outside of padres who play in summer. Not “no competition outside of padres who play in summer.” /
Sd can cave the NBA in the winter
There is not enough corporate sponsorships for any new team. Franchise values do not increase in S.D. as fast as other cities like L.A. Our fans are passionate towards NHL based on Gulls attendance when the team was good. I won't go see Coyotes.
Owner of the Padres can buy an NBA team too possibly
@@dreamcage1801 good point
@@shawnamelva583 yuppie and most owners of other pro sports are NBA guys too
This is very similar to what that was
Different revenue
Lmao there's plenty of enough teams in California for both those leagues
Couldn't keep the Chargers could've bid on the Clippers. All money in on the Madres.
I think San Diego would be great in the NHL but I dont see it happening unless the Ducks decide to move south.
Coyotes can move there
No nhl is a dead sport no one watches it. I think an nba Team would fit, like the clippers
@@jasonhiedo NBA team would kill it in San Diego since the Chargers dipped. Since they’re bunch of Lakers fans in San Diego they would thrive with their own them from day 1. Team name should be the Sails and their team color should be royal blue, grass green, navy blue and white.
@@dreamcage1801 every fan in San Diego is a chargers fan wdym. And the clippers had a big fan base in San diego
@@jasonhiedo Chargers and Clippers shouldn’t have never left San Diego from jump street. I believe that San Diego is going to get a NBA team over Mexico City because it’s a Latin city and Kroenke is going to build a new art of the art arena which will make San Diegans very electric about getting NBA team this time around. As for the Chargers sake LA fans aren’t feeling them like they do the Rams similar to the Lakers. Chargers belong in San Diego and I truly believe that they will reunite one day and gotta find the right person to build a new NFL arena in San Diego and hope the Spanos sell the team.
Can't see it
“This is very similar. This is very similar. This is very similar” come on, get it out buddy
Wait a minute so now they want to build a arena but don't want to build the stadium 🏟️ for the chargers 😂 smh but one can think that it's all Spanos fault 🤷🏾♂️
spanos was only willing to drop 200 million, and did not want a new stadium in mission valley. he ran the team into the ground and announced carson. its literally how it was played out with fischer and the A's. Only difference is the city of SD was ready to go, for mission valley...........Spanos got what he deserved: lost the city that loved the Chargers, is now in ther bottom half of attendance in the NFL (AFTER moving to SOFi), 16 away games and 6th in local ratings, LMAO :D
I can only see the Ducks move to San Diego and the Ducks have a farm team in San Diego
Go Gulls!
I totally agree Anaheim Ducks to San Diego confirmed.
Ducks are in Anaheim till 2048 they just signed a 30 year lease or somthing like that best bet is Coyotes
@@Cobra-eu5pccoyote possibly likely
I can't see the NHL expanding to 4 California teams and the NBA expanding to 5 California teams right now. But San Diego definitely deserves another major sports team or 2. Not counting the MLS which they will get a team in 2025 i believe
NBA coming to San Diego is a possibility over Mexico city
@@scotttild agreed. The traveling is also an issue too. San Diego deserve a chance at a NBA team.
@@dreamcage1801 The guy building the arena already owns an NBA and NHL franchise. In both leagues you can't have multiple ownership of teams. Explain how this works? If anything it will be for a minor league team and concerts. The seating capacity is 16000 for the proposed arena, the city lost 2 nba teams and the chargers and gained mls now. It's more of a real estate development.
@@saltbae865 owners son can own a San Diego nba team tho
@@dreamcage1801 The NBA is adding 2 expansion franchises in Seattle and Vegas.... which NBA team are you proposing goes up for sale then bought by Stan's son and gets league approval from all owners to move the team? Same with the NHL... the league has the Houston Rockets ownership waiting to buy the Coyotes and move them to Toyota Center... would you pick a 4th largest market in USA or add another California team?
Why not put in 4000 more seats and then have a realistic bid for an NBA team?
Hawk stadium has 16,000 seats so what’s the problem there
@@dreamcage1801 says 19050 on wiki
@@grownupgaminghow bout the Pelicans
Stuttering Stanley
Give San Diego an NBA team. Too many NHL teams in the sun belt already.
Would probably have to be via relocation, I feel like Seattle is a lock for the likely upcoming Western Conference expansion team. Memphis, Minnesota, and NOLA seem like potential options.
@@recurrenTopology I've heard about the Pelicans possibly relocating, but all the way to Seattle?
Sacramento would be a more likely candidate, would they not?
@@FischerFan Sacramento has a 30 more years on their stadium lease. While it could break it, that would be expensive. And I don't think NOLA would move to Seattle, they'd move to SD. Seattle is probably getting an expansion which resurrects the Super Sonics.
@@recurrenTopology With the NHL now in Seattle, I think the strategy of trying to get the NBA back may now be in the cards, and yes, most likely via expansion.
San Diego had 2 NBA teams that left for elsewhere. San Diego Rockets 1967-1971 and San Diego Clippers 1978-1984.
I want an nfl or nba team. Wtf is nhl?
I want NBA team in SD
We’ve already lost 2 NBA teams and a NFL team don’t think NBA will come back here!!!!!!
Different time different era for the NBA part. NFL part Spanos is a total prick who doesn’t spend no damn money. San Diego deserves another shot of a nba team. America is the land of second chances.
Lost them by cheap owners
@@FlyPastAll cheap owners should not be allowed in the NBA
Both the NBA and NHL will not allow a team owner with ownership of multiple franchises in their respective leagues. Stan owns the Nuggets and Avalanche. He will not move his teams from those markets to San Diego. This is going to be for a minor league team and more of a real estate development ... look at the units and arena capacity. You are all delusional if you think the NBA wants another California team in a failed market twice with the Rockets and Clippers. The Coyotes could move under a new ownership team if they are willing to pay rent to Stan... most likely won't happen. NBA is going to Seattle and Vegas. The Gulls are owned by the Ducks... they also won't play in someone else's arena.
NBA could possibly expand to more than 2 cities so San Diego might not be outta the woods after all
@@dreamcage1801 You came out 4 months later to reply. Do this favor... go to google and type in recent nba expansion news and read the next few cities considered after seattle and vegas which is mentioned by Adam Silver. Tell us where San Diego is gaining traction. However you do make an effort to sell your idea. Vancouver or Montreal are on the radar. Don't fight it you are wasting your energy.
Nah. San Diego sports arena is not 16,000 seats and more. /
New arena yeah
This would be great for getting the Coyotes from the Phoenix area, where they have no arena.
Kroenke has the money and clout to make this happen.
Build this arena and a team should come.
Nope... the ranking is Seattle, Las Vegas and then Vancouver through relocation.
No Vancouver! It was a disaster.
@@dreamcage1801 That's because of poor management by stu Jackson not because of the fan base. Educate yourself. Even the NBA admits they screwed up not helping the Vancouver situation. Its a great basketball city with former NBA ties, international flavour and brings a rival to west coast teams and raptors, population of approximately 3 mil in the greater area and a sport city with the Canucks, Whitecaps and Olympics.
@@saltbae865Vancouver is not a bball town
Too small for NHL or NBA. NHL wouldn't go with the Ducks so close. Maybe if in 20 years and the Ducks need a new arena they'd move to San Diego. Not now, Honda Center is still a nice arena.
I disagree with that the arena too small
Padres, Angels and Dodgers are close. Ducks, Kings and Coyotes would work.
@@andyapsay8220 absolutely
That’s dumb because theyre not getting one
SD is getting a NBA & NHL team this time around for sure
@@dreamcage1801 no they’re not , I’ve probably been on this planet longer than you . And my family is from SD , it’s not happening, go support the kings and clippers
@@Dotteboy816 well thing will probably changed so you gotta be on board
@@dreamcage1801 no they aren’t , SD will never have another NBA team after the clippers , LV, Seattle, KC, all have an arena ready to go for NBA. As for the NHL , San Diego has never really publicly expressed interest ever in the NHL besides the gulls
Penchanga arena is out dated
Grandpa stadium lol time for a fresh new indoor stadium
@@dreamcage1801 yes all over usa 🇺🇸
@@jesusm2159 hell yeah and I’m glad SD is finally getting their heads outta their asses
Doubt they’ll give SD an NHL team.
But they’ll get a NBA team and be named the admirals
The San Diego Gulls IHL hockey team has had the best attendance in the league for years.
AHL.
The IHL hasn't been around for over 20 years. The Gulls are currently in the AHL, and were 9th in the league in attendance in 2022-2023.
Sports bubble. Too many teams. Too many games. Cable bundle dying.
Stream network is taking over
@@dreamcage1801 Taking over alright...right into bankruptcy.
By clippers 😂
Highly doubt for S/D NBA & NHL teams due to Orange County pro-sports teams as part of S/D territory. Funny, b/c of S/D to award as 30th MLS team. We shall see by how S/D will be viable pro-sports town. S/D Padres will be a future relocation to SLC as the UT Mormons. Since SLC have interest for an MLB team expansion this 2020s decade. S/D like OAK to S/F is a shadow city of L/A. CA has geographical saturations between both SFBA & LAMA pro-sports markets.
SD is going to have a nba team once again in the future because the world has changed over the years.
@@dreamcage1801: Funny lol.
@@cjhan9816 lol yeah but it’s real truth tho lmao
@@dreamcage1801: MOO HAHAHA!
@@dreamcage1801: "I know folks, who smoke crack to make more sense than you" - ex convict, Austin Powers 3 / Goldmember 2002.
Anaheim Ducks become San Diego Gulls and current San Diego Gulls relocate to Oceanside under a different name such as Oceanside Stingrays and maybe get Los Angeles Clippers Games at the new San Diego Arena for presseaon games.
what arena would they play at in Oceanside? ..
Clippers getting their own arena in Inglewood. SD is better off as an NBA expansion team which is cheaper.