I rode 100,000 km on my KTM 690 SMC - How did she do?

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  • Опубліковано 30 вер 2024

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  • @RichardHinks-c1h
    @RichardHinks-c1h 3 місяці тому +165

    Thanks for taking the time to do this in english phil

  • @aperfect42
    @aperfect42 3 місяці тому +173

    I'm sorry for your loss with your friend.

    • @PhilTonic
      @PhilTonic  3 місяці тому +150

      Lol he is fine. I met him at work the next day.

    • @hkk210
      @hkk210 3 місяці тому +47

      @@PhilTonic HAHA i was thinking the same and had to check the comments 🤣

    • @benzinschnueffler187
      @benzinschnueffler187 3 місяці тому +18

      ​@@PhilTonicdude you really had us there...

    • @Mcfc2Rich
      @Mcfc2Rich 3 місяці тому +11

      "oh you poor thing!"
      "No he's at next set of traffic lights" 🤣

  • @707LAKE
    @707LAKE 3 місяці тому +49

    right on! my drz400 had 97,000 MILES (156,000km) before it seized up.

    • @PhilTonic
      @PhilTonic  3 місяці тому +6

      Very impressive!

  • @davidharrison8762
    @davidharrison8762 3 місяці тому +59

    You are so right about 690 owners living with anxiety 😂

    • @bradsanders6954
      @bradsanders6954 3 місяці тому +11

      Not hardly, Ive had lots of KTM's and now a 19 690R is here, these things run a long time and are REALLY fun.
      Many are scared away from bikes they might really love, due to spending too much time on the internet. All they know is what some say online, its more fun to ride than worry.

    • @orange1666
      @orange1666 3 місяці тому +3

      I understand the concern because of mostly internet exaggeration , I have ridden and raced KTM’s for over 30 years , owned an incredible number , sold thousands as a dealer and race team owner and overall they have been very reliable with the odd exception , I currently own 6 KTM’s and never had one fail on the street and only once stopped in competition due to a generator failure , in competition they are the strongest and most reliable and on the street they ride amazing , take the risk and buy something that’s fun , Nothing is perfect but KTM is closer than most , most of the time

    • @Surpriseify
      @Surpriseify 3 місяці тому

      @@orange1666 Saying KTM is closer than most, most of the time is interesting considering my 3 friends with a 790, 690 and a Norden has experienced the following
      Norden filled engine with coolant after 30 minutes of riding, totaled the engine, then throttle bodies broke, THRICE
      790 had water leak into the dash, the headlight, ALL indicators and constantly had some other small issue
      The 690 was honestly the most reliable, only burning a LOT of oil and just needed constant oil/valve checks...
      NEVER
      EVER
      NEVER
      Heard of a new Honda/Yamaha/Kawasaki/Suzuki from ANYONE i'v met with even remotely the same style of issues
      KTM is not reliable, in my experience
      Go to their forums, i am NOT alone hahhaha

    • @marcmorris-kb9ry
      @marcmorris-kb9ry 3 місяці тому

      Mine killed a rocker arm at 50k....if you get it realy hot in single track it will show oil light on tickove.....other than that all good😊

    • @slakk5093
      @slakk5093 Місяць тому

      @@orange1666unfortunately I have watched many overland trips in Australia, can almost guarantee that any ktm or husky in the group will fail on the journey. Maybe our conditions are just harsher than Europe?

  • @al3xxx918
    @al3xxx918 7 днів тому +1

    Es ist das gleiche Problem, wie mit meiner WR 125 R. Jeder sagt, dass dir spätestens nach 50000 Kilometern der Motor hochgehen wird. Ich halte meine Serviceintervalle penibel ein und gönne ihr bei jedem Ölwechsel auch einen neuen Filter (entgegen der Yamaha Richtlinie). Ab und zu schaue ich mal mit dem Endoskop in den Brennraum und die Ventile werden kontrolliert (hier passiert aber wahrscheinlich nix mehr). Hier machen also auch einige Panik, wo keine Panik angebracht ist.

  • @John-Dukemaster
    @John-Dukemaster 3 місяці тому +16

    Thank you! Yes, I had a 2017 690 Duke for 2 years, did 57000km on that. Best bike! Why I didn't keep it? My daughter in law wanted it, so I had to buy a new bike. A 790 Duke. With a motard style handlebar it feels almost as good as the 690!
    But the engine on the 690 is sublime. It's a rock'n'roll engine, not for people who's annoyed by vibrations/pulse/life. So easy to maintain and always gets me home. Bond with it through self maintenance and you get a friend.

    • @PhilTonic
      @PhilTonic  3 місяці тому +3

      "690 you're my best friend" 😄

    • @lassivaatamoinen5468
      @lassivaatamoinen5468 3 місяці тому

      In 2019 the 690 engine got major improvements, especially on the vibrations. I've heard of several people going newer only because of that.

  • @Knakkerman-
    @Knakkerman- 3 місяці тому +21

    Your lost friend will always be in our hearts.

  • @CLAUDIO_KTM
    @CLAUDIO_KTM 3 місяці тому +4

    I have my duke 690, 2008 , 1.owner, belive or not with 150.000km in 8years... 42 rear tyears,24 front... 6X new chain kit... i change oil every 2-3k my self... i have akrapovic...bike run perfect always... i change just klutch...i burn it because burnouts and hard driving in hill.😊
    In 2016 i broke gearbox and duky is now sleeping... i have new 890duke now...😊
    I love ktms... for me best bikes...cheap,realible and easy to maintance...

  • @emperorkhan9941
    @emperorkhan9941 3 місяці тому +12

    This is the exactly kind of review i have been waiting for. A long term use of the 690. Sins a child I've always been a fan of SM's.And I've been wanting this bike for a very-very long time, but haven't been sure of the reliability? I own a 2006 KTM 525 EXC-F that's converted to a streets legal SM, I've had it for a couple of years now, and i love it. The fun i have on that machine is like nothing else. (So far). That's why my thoughts are going more towards the/a 690. This upload blew my mind, 100.000 Km, and been though all of those countries... Am amazed! Now i have full confidence in buying a 690 for sure. Now i only need to get that money. Thank you for sharing this wonderful story with us.

    • @PhilTonic
      @PhilTonic  3 місяці тому

      Thank you. You're welcome.

    • @philiplaurell1163
      @philiplaurell1163 3 місяці тому

      If you wanted it since you where a kid: come on man, you are letting anxiety control your life. Just get it and get it over with. Enjoy!

  • @tolga1cool
    @tolga1cool 3 місяці тому +8

    The part price policy of KTM is a serious concern and was one of the main reasons for me selling my beloved 990.... EVERYTHING is 2-5x the price it used to be not even 10 years ago when you compare it to prices / receipts from back then in the forum's. It's just not fun when suddenly a cheap fix turns into a huge hole in your wallet

    • @PhilTonic
      @PhilTonic  3 місяці тому

      That sounds bad. I hope I will keep getting parts for my 690 for reasonable prices.

    • @sylvainlaurence1554
      @sylvainlaurence1554 3 місяці тому

      Problem is like Mercedes. Too much models, not enough sales makes parts hard to find and when you found it, it’s not cheap $$$$

    • @tolga1cool
      @tolga1cool 3 місяці тому

      @@sylvainlaurence1554 You can buy it straight from ktm. They just incrementally increase the price on all the spare parts after the bikes get a bit older

  • @orlandoberry4031
    @orlandoberry4031 3 місяці тому +1

    Void of dumb music.
    Plethora of facts.
    Nice 👍

    • @PhilTonic
      @PhilTonic  3 місяці тому +1

      Thank you very much!

  • @righttobloodydissent
    @righttobloodydissent 3 місяці тому +6

    I did 55.000 km on my MTO7 in three years. Now I have a Tenere and it just clicked over 1800km in three weeks.

    • @PhilTonic
      @PhilTonic  3 місяці тому

      Not bad! Munching miles! :D

    • @Tonyx.yt.
      @Tonyx.yt. 3 місяці тому

      yamaha cp2 is well know for beign reliable, ktm lc4? not as much

  • @JinKazama92
    @JinKazama92 3 місяці тому +6

    This is refreshing! I have had 2 690s. First one was 2010 SMC. Sold that one cuz I wanted to get my hands on a 790 Duke. Sold the 790 After 6 months cuz I missed the 690 style of riding.
    Sold the 790 and now Im on 2015 690 Enduro with Supermoto Wheels. :D
    I think there is no better bike this easy to maintain.

    • @PhilTonic
      @PhilTonic  3 місяці тому

      Oh yes, I can fully understand. I considered getting a 790 or 890 Duke but I can't let go of the supermotos.

    • @JinKazama92
      @JinKazama92 3 місяці тому

      @@PhilTonic oh yeah and love your channel man. I watch your German channel even though i cant understand. 😅

  • @joaosantos-fo4kh
    @joaosantos-fo4kh Місяць тому

    I m really thinking to buy the 690 2024 or the 701 Husqvarna. I had the 530 exc was the best bike ever I regretted alot to sell it. Never have one engine problem was just amazing bike

  • @constantinosschinas4503
    @constantinosschinas4503 23 дні тому

    So if you buy a new 690 and think of keeping it, make sure you buy 2 camshafts and 4 rocker arms, before the prices skyrocket.

  • @meinkraftrad8593
    @meinkraftrad8593 3 місяці тому +1

    Hallo Phil, bestimmt wieder ein tolles Video , gehe ich mal einfach von aus, oder anders ausgedrückt bewährte Qualität wie wir es von dir gewohnt sind.
    Meine Bitte, kannst du vielleicht mal ein Video machen wie es eure Meinung nach um Großbritannien steht ? Sowohl deine Meinung , als im besonderen die Meinung deiner Ehefrau . Das würde mich wirklich sehr interessieren . Vielen lieben Dank, für das tolle Video . DLzG Marco
    Ach so, wenn es geht bitte auf deutsch.

  • @revistadirectivosyempresas5006
    @revistadirectivosyempresas5006 Місяць тому

    Thinking you for The viejo!! More content in English please only German

  • @ritzevespa
    @ritzevespa 2 місяці тому

    Iam really scared to buy a ktm.. But this vid is making me more confident, my GS 650 thumper had 100.000km and was still good... And a few parts like rockers is a small price to pay over that distance. I already paid 1400 euro for 13k km for my Vespa 300 so.. Yeah... Uhm... The itch is getting out of hand on this one

  • @daza3620
    @daza3620 2 місяці тому

    You could give me your spare KTM perhaps? :)

  • @Davidkxf
    @Davidkxf 3 місяці тому +2

    My forks only lasted 10,000km before they started leaking.

    • @PhilTonic
      @PhilTonic  3 місяці тому

      On my previous bike, the GS 500 mine kept leaking, too. No problems on the 690 though. Touch wood!

  • @SomeRandoInternetPoster
    @SomeRandoInternetPoster 3 місяці тому +1

    Wow, the KTM 690 has cam shaft wear issues as well. I thought cam shaft wear was only happening on the KTM 790 and KTM 890 models which required replacement of camshafts. This suggests KTM have a wider cam shaft manufacturing issue, cam shafts are not a wear items and should look brand new even at 100,000km.

    • @PhilTonic
      @PhilTonic  3 місяці тому +2

      I know a guy who rode his 690 Enduro for 140,000 km and he didn't have any issues with the cam shaft itself.

  • @Bjork3n1
    @Bjork3n1 3 місяці тому +2

    What a great video 👌.
    Do you enjoy the euro 4 better?
    I had the 2010 and now a 2022 but man what they lowered the new models.
    2010 had 275mm of travel and now the new 215mm 😄

    • @PhilTonic
      @PhilTonic  3 місяці тому +1

      Thank you! I give the Euro 4 a slight edge. You notice the 10 extra horsepowers and longer rev band when overtaking. The suspension is more stable in fast corners as well. When going fast, the quickshifter helps to reduce wobble when changing gear as I usually shift without the clutch on the Euro 3.

  • @mimounazdad9195
    @mimounazdad9195 3 місяці тому +1

    Good review! Thanks for taking the time to do it in English. I would like to buy the bike if it really needs to go!

  • @backup-yb3fl
    @backup-yb3fl 3 місяці тому +1

    in more or less 6 years, i hope to do a video like this about my Mt09 :D

  • @billyandriam
    @billyandriam 2 місяці тому +1

    Thank you very much for this! one of the view people who encourages people to do the maintenance on their own and pushes people to outdo themselves and learn more about their bikes. Thanks Phil!

    • @PhilTonic
      @PhilTonic  2 місяці тому

      Thank you! You're welcome.

  • @rc51bigdaddy
    @rc51bigdaddy 3 місяці тому +1

    Great video! I have a 2023 690r Enduro and it is nice to know how reliable the bike is. I hope the rocker issue is now fixed on the newer bikes. I also had a 2009 690r and remember switching out some rockers on that one.

    • @PhilTonic
      @PhilTonic  3 місяці тому

      Thanks. The 690s from 2019 have a revised valve drive. Completely different concept.

  • @DrG0nz083
    @DrG0nz083 3 місяці тому +2

    Behalten, solang se net weg muss, kannst die Maschine auch bei dir lassen. Wär schad drum.

    • @alielabdimarras7965
      @alielabdimarras7965 3 місяці тому

      Das ist wie mit Fahrrädern oder Autos, am Ende kannst immer nur ein Fahrzeug fahren. Ist bei Auto und Motorrad ganz nett wenn Du bei Unfall oder Schaden schnell das Fahrzeug wechseln kannst.

  • @MiamiJato
    @MiamiJato 3 місяці тому

    Had one last year, didn't like it, I prefer my DRZ400 more reliable and just feels better, waiting for the 2025 verssion of both bikes to jump back in.......great video thou.....

  • @Szlejer
    @Szlejer 3 місяці тому +2

    Thanks for the honest review! I've the Euro 5 version, it's a pretty solid bike after riding it for a couple years.

    • @PhilTonic
      @PhilTonic  3 місяці тому

      The Euro 4 and 5 are said to be pretty bullet proof. Some people have had broken gears, but not very many.

  • @monikapecek7317
    @monikapecek7317 3 місяці тому +1

    always rode sportbikes until i bought smcr 690 2012, 2 months ago. Its the most fun i had riding a bike and doing maintenance is something i enjoy doing :) one of my best decisions as far as motorcycling is concerned ;)

    • @plllot9713
      @plllot9713 3 місяці тому

      similar here. I used to ride sport-tourers, naked (fz6, mt09 tracer, street 765rs) and after going supermoto I've stopped looking for anything else 🤷 the only thing that'd driving me crazy is how snatchy the bike is when you open fully closed throttle. the jerk it makes really throws me out of balance and when you want to apply gas mid turn on a hairpin it's just terrible. the only way around it is feathering the clutch or slightly re-applying gas before turning and controlling speed with rear brake. that's obviously riding fairly calmly. it gets better when you go full beans but that's not for public roads 🤷 I've got a swm sm650 (husly sms630) and I've been actually wondering whether 690s are any smoother. also it's unrideable in 30kmh speed zones. 1st gear is too low and too jerky. 3rd gear is too high. second gear at those speeds is exactly on the throttle open/close area, sometimes it snatches so badly I'm feeling like throwing the bike in the bushes 😵

  • @CRFLAus
    @CRFLAus 3 місяці тому +1

    I'd keep it. The kilometres the bike has done would make it hard to sell, or if it did sell I don't think you'd get much for it. The only thing it comes down to is somewhere to store it, and my suggestion is in your loungeroom!

    • @PhilTonic
      @PhilTonic  3 місяці тому +1

      I'd have to get a crane to do that lol. Or take it apart and put it back in the living room.

  • @PRO21SHOT9
    @PRO21SHOT9 3 місяці тому +1

    this is awesome to see. i bought a 690 from the dealer last year and i absolutely love it.
    i did have to go back to the dealer for various fixes under warranty
    for example:
    cam chain tensioner had to be replaced because the bike made al kinds of pinging noises on startup sometimes
    my radiator had to get replaced because it cracked at the mounting brackets and it started leaking.

  • @Twistedmetallic
    @Twistedmetallic 3 місяці тому +1

    My girlfriend have a smc-r 690 (2016) with 80.000 km now. I do all service myself also. Changed rocker arms at 60.000 km.

  • @LuisBrygala
    @LuisBrygala Місяць тому

    Phil Glückwunsch so etwas zu hören!
    Viel spaß in de Zukunft.
    Liebe Grüße

  • @GottHoldNicetomeet
    @GottHoldNicetomeet 3 місяці тому

    I had my 690 Enduro for like 40000km before it got stolen also 2008 model :c

    • @PhilTonic
      @PhilTonic  3 місяці тому

      Oh no. That's a shame!

  • @DerUnbbekante
    @DerUnbbekante 3 місяці тому +2

    Ich glaube da muss noch jemand eine Laufleistung in der Kanalbeschreibung anpassen :0

    • @PhilTonic
      @PhilTonic  3 місяці тому +1

      Oh Tatsache. Danke für den Hinweis.

  • @simonsteffen545
    @simonsteffen545 3 місяці тому

    I own a 2020 husky 701 at 3000km i was on my 3 engine blew up twice and blew 1 clutch slave

  • @mannyechaluce3814
    @mannyechaluce3814 3 місяці тому +1

    "How do I know?, it broke" , that is exactly how I figure things are not made well :D

    • @PhilTonic
      @PhilTonic  3 місяці тому

      Well, KTM improved the rocker arms and they seem to be pretty solid by now.

  • @chrisblvck3942
    @chrisblvck3942 3 місяці тому +1

    Weiterhin gute Fahrt. 👍🏻 danke für das Video und die Infos.
    Grüße aus dem Ktm Forum 😁

  • @TallyHoTech
    @TallyHoTech 3 місяці тому +1

    I would not expect in a reliable engine. You would have to replace cams and rockers.

    • @bradsanders6954
      @bradsanders6954 3 місяці тому +1

      Buy a V-Strom, it will suit you much better. Just keep it covered when its at home.
      I had a strom and the ugliness put me off after a while.
      Changing out a rocker arm isnt hard, ugly is for ever.

    • @TallyHoTech
      @TallyHoTech 3 місяці тому +1

      @@bradsanders6954 Stop making excuses.
      Tin pot engineering. Chocolate Cams.
      And that KTM is beyond ugly.

    • @bradsanders6954
      @bradsanders6954 3 місяці тому

      @@TallyHoTech You wouldnt now shit from shinola if it landed on your face...KTM is the biggest euro seller of bikes, if they were shite we would have known by now.

  • @hatchetjack1031
    @hatchetjack1031 Місяць тому

    I have a 2023 RC390. Loved KTM since I raced them in MX during the 70's. Love the power and performance of KTM but hear lots of bad reviews about Cam problems, particularly w/ the 690. Would like to trade up in a few years and appreciate your analysis 👍! Ride Safely!

  • @Tdmotoss
    @Tdmotoss 3 місяці тому +2

    Awesome dude !!! My 701 year 2022 is now already at almost 19k km... and this season is just started. Hopefully the newer models are just as strong as yours.

    • @PhilTonic
      @PhilTonic  3 місяці тому +1

      As far as I've heard they are even more reliable. Hence the revised timing drive.

  • @VCC1316
    @VCC1316 18 днів тому

    Just keep the second bike! This model is going to be in the history of motorcycles, I bet it will be collection items in, say, 10 years from now.
    In the cons: the steering is waaaay too limited, to dangerous levels. The 640 felt significantly more friendly. Also, an other big cons is the extreme difficulty in regulating the throttle body when it starts being irregular at low RPMs. Other than that, the ultimate bike.

    • @VCC1316
      @VCC1316 18 днів тому

      PS: The automatic chain oiler seems great, I am thinking about it, but do you trust it? What if it starts leaking while driving and spills oil all over the tyre?

    • @PhilTonic
      @PhilTonic  17 днів тому

      I trust it.

  • @Delinquentsm
    @Delinquentsm 3 місяці тому +1

    I’m loving my 2020! I’m really beating on it pretty good with the stunt riding and so far I’ve had no issues! I’m keeping an eye on those rocker arms.

    • @bradsanders6954
      @bradsanders6954 3 місяці тому +2

      The 2020 doesnt have those rocker arms, so no need to look after them! Totally redesigned top end.

  • @xdevice617
    @xdevice617 Місяць тому

    Welches Öl hast du über die Jahre verwendet? und gibt es noch irgendwelche kleinen Krankheiten außer den Kipphebeln? Hab mir vor paar Tagen auch eine gekauft mit 29.000km und würde ungerne den Motor revidieren lassen, weil ich etwas übersehen habe. Würde Ventile und Kipphebel checken und Ölwechsel machen. Sonst noch irgendetwas worauf ich achten sollte bevor ich auch die erste Fahrt mit der Guten gehe?

    • @PhilTonic
      @PhilTonic  Місяць тому

      Nö, nur Kipphebel. Ich bin Motul 300V 15W60 gefahren.

  • @lepgrego7588
    @lepgrego7588 3 місяці тому +2

    sehr stark.
    das schaue ich mir später an ❤

  • @stefanosbestias5547
    @stefanosbestias5547 Місяць тому

    Hi, I’d like to make a question. Is there any mechanic differences between the new and the oldest 690? (Except the 10 hp)

    • @PhilTonic
      @PhilTonic  Місяць тому

      Different valve train, higher displacement, cornering abs, traction control, map switch and a few other bits.

    • @stefanosbestias5547
      @stefanosbestias5547 Місяць тому

      Thank you very much for the information!!

  • @Meifesto
    @Meifesto 3 місяці тому +1

    Was thinking about a 690 SMC for years, trying to save up.
    And then I bought an XT660 and it kept my hunger for the SMC saturated.
    And now we have a Duc Mono 698 ... and now I'm in doubt ;)

    • @PhilTonic
      @PhilTonic  3 місяці тому

      The DUC is more road oriented, closer to a naked bike than the 690.

    • @Meifesto
      @Meifesto 3 місяці тому

      @@PhilTonic Yeah, but that works, 80 to 85% of the km's are road use for me ;)

  • @DeathComeInPeace
    @DeathComeInPeace 3 місяці тому

    Wait... YOU went to Eastern Europe but you didn't visit Romania? Blasphemy!

    • @PhilTonic
      @PhilTonic  3 місяці тому +1

      I wanted to, but I didn't have enough time.

    • @DeathComeInPeace
      @DeathComeInPeace 3 місяці тому +1

      @@PhilTonic Hahaha didn't expect a reply! If you need any tips or recommendation you can contact me anytime. Thanks for posting this, I drive a Versys but this bike drew my attention in the past few weeks :)

  • @joelboutier1736
    @joelboutier1736 3 місяці тому

    Your English is excellent 👍.
    The rocker arms may not have been getting proper lubrication. From the wear in the pictures, it looks like they were not getting oil. Friction will both remove material, and reheat & re-temper it making it softer and vulnerable to wear.

  • @jasonperry1444
    @jasonperry1444 3 місяці тому

    Great informative review, awesome bikes I have an 08 enduro LC4 with only 8000 miles from new, only nagging issue is the bleeding fuel pressure FI flicker on start and occasional stall which having changed the fuel pump for a kemsko aftermarket one I believe it to be the stupid nylon fuel lines possibly leaking or seals (I’ve had it out 4 times now..) I am so frustrated I am just about to spend £425 on a whole assembly (fuel pump, fuel lines, plastic cover, filters and clips..) for a genuine OEM replacement….when you love the bikes you have to spend what it costs and these early bikes, as I’m sure the newer ones also, are a riot when the mood takes..ride safe 💪👍

  • @796andy2
    @796andy2 24 дні тому

    thats good news to hear !
    ive got 690 anxiety but 2k miles so far so good 😂

  • @bakplaat13
    @bakplaat13 3 місяці тому +1

    Great video. Very informative and I like your sense of humor:)

  • @PeterR0035
    @PeterR0035 3 місяці тому +1

    Thanks for the video and all your replies to viewers! I recently got a Husqvarna LR 701 enduro and love the 500km range 😀 ❤❤❤

    • @PhilTonic
      @PhilTonic  3 місяці тому +1

      Nice! I remember being very keen on the 701 just because of those tanks. Have you ever managed to use all the fuel in one sitting? 😉

    • @PeterR0035
      @PeterR0035 3 місяці тому +1

      @@PhilTonic hahaha, indeed 500km is way too long to ride without stopping 🙂 it does give a lot of peace of mind; lots of spare fuel AND 2 completely separate fuel systems; 2 fuel pumps, etc... The after market fuel tank systems do NOT offer that...

    • @philparrott4424
      @philparrott4424 3 місяці тому +1

      The larger tanks would be great for doing the Trans America Trail.

    • @joaosantos-fo4kh
      @joaosantos-fo4kh Місяць тому

      Between Husqvarna and KTM witch one is the best to go to work and ride on days off? I take a good care of my bikes same times to mutch well, saw using well the bike witch one I should buy?

  • @racerx6384
    @racerx6384 3 місяці тому

    Why is the speedo on this bike nicer than a brand new one?

    • @PhilTonic
      @PhilTonic  3 місяці тому

      Probably because it's cheaper 🤫

  • @stefanosbestias5547
    @stefanosbestias5547 Місяць тому

    Do you prefer the old SMC or the newest ?

    • @PhilTonic
      @PhilTonic  Місяць тому

      @@stefanosbestias5547 Each has its own charm. Servicing, the old one. Riding, the new one.

  • @gfhfhrthsefsehtjgngd
    @gfhfhrthsefsehtjgngd 2 місяці тому

    I bought a brand new 690 three weeks ago and i really love it. Nice to see that they can hold up for that milage

  • @wasfuertim8380
    @wasfuertim8380 3 місяці тому

    Hallo Phil
    ich habe eine ktm smc 690 2011 mit 28.000 km gelaufen.
    Bisher nie was kaputt gegangen .
    Was kann an dem baujahr oft kaputt gehen.
    Habe angst das bald was passiert

  • @crashbangwhallopwhatavideo
    @crashbangwhallopwhatavideo 3 місяці тому

    I have a 690 with similar mileage and the same issues as you had. I would still buy another one. Have a 990 smr with 90000 on it now too

  • @LifeWellRidden
    @LifeWellRidden 3 місяці тому +1

    I can only dream of making it to 100,000kms on my 690! Dude insane!

    • @PhilTonic
      @PhilTonic  3 місяці тому +1

      Just keep on riding! :)

    • @lassivaatamoinen5468
      @lassivaatamoinen5468 3 місяці тому

      @@PhilTonic And keep up with the maintenance. It's a bit funny that people keep saying "this and that bike has been so reliable for me, but the other one breaks up in no time". I just tend to think that's been pure luck that "this and that bike" has been running even that far..

  • @MrSnooopDog
    @MrSnooopDog 3 місяці тому

    in Deutsch wäre cool

  • @mickluinge8292
    @mickluinge8292 3 місяці тому +1

    Legend!

  • @simosmaximos3642
    @simosmaximos3642 3 місяці тому

    3:52 man this windshield looks like a cosmetic upgrade, must be like the first good looking windshield

  • @lifeofme937
    @lifeofme937 3 місяці тому +1

    Wie heißen dies "Rockas" von dene du sprichst auf Deutsch?
    Ich find keine Übersetzung, vermutlich, weil ich es falsch schreibe :D

  • @benjaminduerr
    @benjaminduerr 3 місяці тому

    Es ist ein "alter" Motor. Diesen Motoren EURO4 und EURO5 bzw. Bald EURO5+ aufzuzwingen trägt nicht unbedingt zur Haltbarkeit bei. Je höher die Literleistung, je höher auch der Verschleiß. Für das, was der Motor ist und kann, sind die Motoren gut.

    • @PhilTonic
      @PhilTonic  3 місяці тому

      Naja viel hat sich da nicht getan. EVAP kam dazu und ein bisschen überarbeiteter Kat. Ob der neue Ventiltrieb rein Euro 4 geschuldet ist?

    • @benjaminduerr
      @benjaminduerr 3 місяці тому +1

      @@PhilTonic ja, Kat in der Regel weiter nach vorne und noch etwas magerer. Bald dann Zwei Lambdasonden usw. Auf jeden Fall mehr Aufwand. Wird leider immer mehr.

  • @zerut180
    @zerut180 Місяць тому

    tolles Video! Lg

  • @superduketwins
    @superduketwins 3 місяці тому

    We have the 2017 KTM 1290 Super Duke's R, we bought them brand new, they have now 151 000km and have crossed 20 diferent countries 😆😆

  • @sandroschindler9129
    @sandroschindler9129 3 місяці тому

    Ich habe eine Wave Bremsscheibe auf meiner 2011 smc eingebaut, und der Tacho stimmt nicht mehr, was könnte der Grund sein?

  • @skaraborgcraft
    @skaraborgcraft 3 місяці тому

    What about oil changes? Old Honda XL/XR had camshaft wear if the oil was neglected. Your cam looks like its been cooked, or its sub standard metal. Still riding a 123kg Honda XL but with only 20hp.......still smiling.

    • @PhilTonic
      @PhilTonic  3 місяці тому

      There were no signs of overheating on either the lobe nor the rocker arm. Probably just excessive wear on the lobe that in turn killed the rocker arm bearing surface.

  • @therealad1238
    @therealad1238 3 місяці тому +2

    Lang drauf gewartet, bin mal auf dein Fazit gespannt nach so vielen Kilometern. Hatte auch zwischenzeitlich überlegt mir nochmal ne ältere zu holen, wenn die alten aber 7.000€ kosten und ne neue beim Händler 10.000€ seh ich das nicht ein.

    • @PhilTonic
      @PhilTonic  3 місяці тому +1

      Ja die Gebrauchtpreise sind schon immer verrückt.

    • @H4nut4fr3ss3
      @H4nut4fr3ss3 3 місяці тому +2

      Die Preise sind in den letzten Jahren echt absurd geworden, habe meine vor ca 3 Jahren für 6,4 verkauft mit 14k km hätte dafür jetzt viel mehr bekommen

    • @sebastianclauss4537
      @sebastianclauss4537 3 місяці тому

      ich schau momentan auch nach supermotos... die PREISE ... es ist nur verrückt ! ne alte exc 450 bj 2008 kostet als sumo mindesten 5k eher 6 ... tendiere auch stark zum neukauf..

    • @PhilTonic
      @PhilTonic  3 місяці тому

      Ich liebäugle auch schon seit Jahren mit ner EXC Supermoto, aber da ist man nie legal unterwegs und was den Wartungsaufwand und die -intervalle betrifft ist man mit einer 690er einfach besser dran.

    • @theflyingbavarian
      @theflyingbavarian 3 місяці тому

      Vielleicht kann man sich auch mal die GasGas SM anschauen. Effektiv fast das gleiche Bike, bekommt man aber schon für unter 9000€ nagelneu.

  • @blowduke
    @blowduke 3 місяці тому +1

    It’s nice to see someone using there bike that much

    • @bradsanders6954
      @bradsanders6954 3 місяці тому

      I watch the classifieds on ADV and elsewhere, and your right, a lotta people never ride the bikes they spent so much to buy....it was just a whim, or the new wore off the day the bike came home, they sell with 200 miles on odo.

  • @BenMcghie
    @BenMcghie 3 місяці тому

    German Police care about the stock airbox!? Serious business.
    Thank you for the detailed overview. Myself and my partner have a couple LC4 engines with over 45k kms. I just bought mine, owner just replaced the camshaft. Seems like the main issue is those rocker arms for the older models.
    Thanks for the vote of confidence. We have the enduro version, and they are fantastic for ADV use. Eat motorway speeds all day, then blast up virtually anything off road. The rider is by far the biggest limitation on these machines.
    I agree with not trusting the dealer. Particularly with older machines, they have no idea how to troubleshoot stuff logically.

    • @PhilTonic
      @PhilTonic  3 місяці тому

      I got chased by police once. Luckily they didn't check under the seat when they stopped me :D

  • @eurest66
    @eurest66 2 місяці тому

    GEILES VIDEO!!!

  • @SWFXTRADING
    @SWFXTRADING 3 місяці тому

    I also ride a 690 SMC-R 2015. Currently at 26.500. Before I had a 690 SMC-R 2016, this was a total mess up. There were so many things wrong with the engine and I had to replace the piston and cilinder already at 11.000 soon after I bought it.
    I think if you really maintain these 690's good they can last long. Other than that its an amazing bike, I love it more than my superduke 1290 r

    • @PhilTonic
      @PhilTonic  3 місяці тому

      They need a little bit of love but they give you lots back.

  • @ramonbraam895
    @ramonbraam895 3 місяці тому

    Never annoyed by the vibration of the handle bars or the huge ammount of engine noise? Thinking of selling mine 690 after allot of repairs and most recent the dash broke whats about 400 euro....😵 Good review of your bike anyway

    • @PhilTonic
      @PhilTonic  3 місяці тому

      Thanks. Well it does vibrate and everything but it adds to the character.

  • @mantheymotoexperience
    @mantheymotoexperience Місяць тому

    Great to hear all your very positive comments! Thanks a lot!

  • @BlackdogADV
    @BlackdogADV 3 місяці тому

    On my ride from Portland to Ushuaia Argentina my 2013 690 my engine failed in Antofagasta Chile. It was the exhaust rocker bearing. I had a spare so I replaced in a motel parking lot.
    I’m on a Husqvarna 701 now with the improved engine.

  • @FraxeroneMemone
    @FraxeroneMemone 3 місяці тому

    My 2015 390 duke has achieved more than 60k kms, but not without issues… the previous owner was a complete idiot and gave me the bike with the head gasket basically gone, i’ve noticed a strange oil consumption problem and strange bubbles in the oil after using the bike… i’m not a mechanic (in thet period i was still a noob and didn’t know anything about engines) and after spending 500€ for a complete service and 300€ for a complete front fork service the bike still runs great, incredible for the city, incredible in the twisties.
    Apart from that problem all the regular maintenence i did all by myself, brakes, clutch replacement, oil, filters, chain tension, electrical stuff…

    • @PhilTonic
      @PhilTonic  3 місяці тому

      The Duke is a great bike too. Had a change to ride one twice. For me the SMC/Enduro offer better ergonomics (I'm 1,85m).

  • @bradsanders6954
    @bradsanders6954 3 місяці тому

    The rocker arms on these get replaced every 10,000 miles if you want to be sure.
    As of 2019 690's don't have these rocker arms any more, and they run way smoother and make 8 more HP.
    Vibration is near nil. 75mph is easy for hours.
    For me, any bike can have issues. I had one BMW and I am cured for life, no mas.
    By 36,000 miles it was no longer trust worthy to go out of town on.................the first electrical repair was under warranty luckily.
    @ 4500.00 for parts, and 2 months down time...................the shop admitted it also needed a new wiring harness @ 1500.00 for parts. It always used a lot of oil. Like a half quart before lunch if I rode it hard.

    • @PhilTonic
      @PhilTonic  3 місяці тому

      As I've said I also own a 2020 SMC. Pretty confident this one will last a long time.

  • @jebatkapat
    @jebatkapat 3 місяці тому

    Damn what a bike, first gen 690 is like uncle for my 701, I love this bike so much, it's really high, it allows you to watch over the cars, you can custom almost everything and I'm glad that your is still running

    • @PhilTonic
      @PhilTonic  3 місяці тому

      Yeah it's great bike! Thanks!

  • @murdock6450
    @murdock6450 3 місяці тому +1

    I never even knew this bike existed.. thank you for the video i have been thinking about a bike to commute to work that isn't too big but can do motorways no problem. This one looks great.

    • @krrmoto5048
      @krrmoto5048 3 місяці тому

      It can do motorways, but if that is what you'll mainly be driving on I wouldn't recommend a 690. With it being a single cylinder and all, I find it is far from comfortable to do 60+ for longer periods of time. Maybe the new double counterbalanced versions with a larger front sprocket fitted would make it more bearable.

    • @murdock6450
      @murdock6450 3 місяці тому

      @@krrmoto5048 Thanks for the reply, well the motorway part is only 25 miles.. the only problem is it's the busy part of the M6 that gets silly jammed if one car brakes down as theres no hard shoulder now.. i would be more than happy to do 40-50mph through all that when they stood still for hours?

    • @krrmoto5048
      @krrmoto5048 3 місяці тому +1

      @@murdock6450 yes for filtering they’re great, it would probably work well for your application. Real fun bike

    • @murdock6450
      @murdock6450 3 місяці тому

      @@krrmoto5048 Thank you.. will look more into these then :)

  • @kollosytravel5796
    @kollosytravel5796 3 місяці тому +1

    Herzlichen Glückwunsch erstmal zur sechsstelligen Laufleistung mit der 690er!
    Zwei Fragen hätte ich:
    Was glaubst du würdest bekommen, würdest du sie verkaufen?
    Wann denkst du müsstest du den Motor ausbauen und zur Generalüberholung einschicken?
    Ich stelle die Frage, weil ich mit meiner Enduro R gerade bei 73k bin und gerade die Nockenwelle und die Ventilhebel tauschen musste aufgrund der von dir geschilderten Probleme. Mir bleiben also noch 27k (rund 2 Jahre) bis zur Generalüberholung, die ich wahrscheinlich machen lassen werde, weil ich keine Lust habe mein einziges Moped mit geteiltem Motor in der Garage stehen lassen zu müssen, wenn ab 100k die goldene Grenze zum Retrofit überschriften ist.

    • @PhilTonic
      @PhilTonic  3 місяці тому +1

      Puh das ist ne sehr gute Frage. Keine 6000 mehr denke ich. Ich werde den Motor erst machen lassen, wenn wirklich was ernsthaft kaputt ist oder sie keine Leistung mehr hat. Aber mich würde auch reizen, das selbst zu machen.

    • @kollosytravel5796
      @kollosytravel5796 3 місяці тому

      @@PhilTonic Naja, ist bei dir ein bisschen einfacher, weil du ne zweite zum fahren hast. Ich bin drauf angewiesen, dass die von Frühjahr bis Spätherbst und manchmal auch im Winter läuft. 😅

    • @PhilTonic
      @PhilTonic  3 місяці тому

      Oder für Notfälle wie diesen ne günstige 125er anschaffen? Die machen auch Laune.

    • @kollosytravel5796
      @kollosytravel5796 3 місяці тому

      @@PhilTonic Entweder so oder ne Himalayan für den Weg zur Arbeit

  • @therealtashiro
    @therealtashiro 3 місяці тому

    Great video! Thanks for sharing! What's your opinion on what's the better bike to get for having both a supermoto and a dual sport. Get a 690 SMC and get dual sport rims/tires or get a 690 Enduro R and get supermoto rims/tires? Cheers! 🍻🏍

    • @PhilTonic
      @PhilTonic  3 місяці тому +1

      Thanks. I have another set of wheels which fit plug and play, but the suspension is too stiff for Enduro riding. And you can still do a lot even with street tyres on a supermoto. So for me it wasn't worth it. If you are aiming towards dual sport just get the Enduro. It's great on the road too.

  • @levy_shd7833
    @levy_shd7833 2 місяці тому

    Was für Öl bist du die meiste Zeit gefahren ?

  • @krede99
    @krede99 3 місяці тому

    Amazing how big of a difference from my 690. I had it for 4 years and about 20.000 km. 4 or 5 pistons, 1 cylinder head, a lot of fuel pumps and filters

  • @jimbob67
    @jimbob67 3 місяці тому

    Thank you for making this video. Good content 👌. I had a 2001 ktm 640 adventure, i put over thirty thousand miles on it with no issues. If anything, it ran better than it did when new. I'm hoping my 2022 gas gas es700 will be as reliable 🤞

    • @PhilTonic
      @PhilTonic  3 місяці тому +1

      Thank you! Fingers crossed!

  • @SK3DDO
    @SK3DDO 3 місяці тому

    Does your 690 consume any oil between changes? My Husqvarna 701 E has 29,000km now, and the only issue was a camshaft at 15,000km that lost the case hardening on the lobes. Here's to hoping that mine can hit the 100,000km mark!

    • @PhilTonic
      @PhilTonic  3 місяці тому +1

      It does a little bit. Mostly when you give it the beans on the motorway or track for longer durations.

  • @alielabdimarras7965
    @alielabdimarras7965 3 місяці тому

    A Euro 4 will easy go the 100Mm. And yes buying the thing from some crazy kiddo with 12Mm for 85% of the price of a new one is silly.

    • @PhilTonic
      @PhilTonic  3 місяці тому

      Pretty confident the Euro 4 can to the 100.000 km easily.

  • @plllot9713
    @plllot9713 3 місяці тому

    I can't imagine touring on a SM. I take my bike with me in a van. I've just spent 2 weeks in the Alps and covered almost 2k km. 350km is the most I did in one day and I had enough. Not to mention I wore a brand new rear tyre almost down to its cord and I'm not even a fast rider. last year in May I took the bike for the same trip with a tyre that was already a bit worn in... after a week I had to find a tyre shop for a new rear tyre 😂 I ride a SWM sm650 which is a copy of a Husky sms630. a brand new camshaft costs 130 euros 😅

    • @PhilTonic
      @PhilTonic  3 місяці тому +1

      I had no choice other to get used to it in the first week. Went on a tour with friends while I was breaking her in. Turned out to be a 800 km day trip, almost went into France. Bought the bike on a Tuesday, went back to the dealer the following Monday for the first service with 1100 km 😁

  • @nicholasbaker2904
    @nicholasbaker2904 3 місяці тому

    Great video. I have a 2007 I bought used. I loved the look of the Beaker front end. I plan on running it forever bc I'm on the fence for newer model ktm reliability. I offen consider something more touring or cruiser as I age but every ride I cant deny the fun of a capable lightweight bike.

    • @PhilTonic
      @PhilTonic  3 місяці тому +1

      That was actually the first KTM I have ever ridden and after 10 km I knew I had to get a KTM. Eye opening moment in terms of: "Oh, this is how a motorbike can feel like, too!"

  • @audi0syst3m62
    @audi0syst3m62 2 місяці тому

    love it. Thanks 4 sharing. my absolute dream bike since they came out... love the pre facelift one because i hate the new speedometer :(

    • @PhilTonic
      @PhilTonic  2 місяці тому +1

      Thanks. The new speedo isn't too bad to be honest. At first I complained about it too, but now I rarely check it anyway.

  • @jimbroen
    @jimbroen 3 місяці тому

    I bought a 2020 about a month ago and so far I'm loving it. It's such a good machine when you live in a city with dodgy roads. The Canadian Prairies have extreme temperatures and soft foundations which generate potholes. I'm surprised these bikes aren't better sellers given how capable and fun they are compared to the alternatives. I plan to do all the maintenance myself so it's encouraging to hear confirmation that it's straightforward.

    • @PhilTonic
      @PhilTonic  3 місяці тому

      Enjoy your new bike!

  • @philparrott4424
    @philparrott4424 3 місяці тому

    I've been wanting to buy one of these but I think you sold me on it. Not sure which version yet. I have been looking hard at the Enduro with a bigger front wheel. Thanks for doing this in English.

    • @PhilTonic
      @PhilTonic  3 місяці тому

      Thank you. You're welcome. In my opinion it doesn't really matter which one you get. The later years are more road focused. The old 2011 model has 270mm of travel front and rear. The newer ones have considerably less. But that makes them more stable in fast corners.

  • @Nathan_1492
    @Nathan_1492 3 місяці тому

    Thanks for the video showing how reliable these bikes can be if you take care of them. I hope to get that many miles on my 2022 SMC R. How many times have you had to adjust the valves?

    • @PhilTonic
      @PhilTonic  3 місяці тому

      Every 7500 km. As far as I remember they were only in spec once, maybe twice.

  • @flo0079
    @flo0079 2 місяці тому

    Wieso steht die Überschrift in Deutsch ?

    • @PhilTonic
      @PhilTonic  2 місяці тому

      Weil UA-cam das kann.

  • @braxen690
    @braxen690 3 місяці тому

    Nice video! This makes me a lot calmer as a 690 owner, mine should be good for at least 75000km more!

    • @PhilTonic
      @PhilTonic  3 місяці тому +1

      Thanks a lot and enjoy your 690!

  • @majorkupric
    @majorkupric 3 місяці тому

    Why not poland visit? Great moto. I have too. Regards From Poland.

    • @PhilTonic
      @PhilTonic  3 місяці тому

      All of the eastern european countries I've visited doing a 4400 km balkan tour in just 10 days. Poland wasn't on the way.

  • @alfredorodriguez4539
    @alfredorodriguez4539 3 місяці тому

    Can relate to the need to grease the linkage... and the swing arm pivot point but then you don't. LMAO.

    • @PhilTonic
      @PhilTonic  3 місяці тому

      Never touch a running system, eh?

  • @-DC-
    @-DC- 3 місяці тому

    Absolutely love the SMC by far the most fun on 2 wheels I've ever experienced ❤️

    • @PhilTonic
      @PhilTonic  3 місяці тому

      Hence why it's still in the garage 👍🏻

  • @hill1975
    @hill1975 3 місяці тому

    Am still debating whether to sell mine still, but now im unsure......again!.😂

    • @PhilTonic
      @PhilTonic  3 місяці тому +2

      If it brings you joy, just keep it!