Very, very musically important recording. Like finding a recording of the Beatles in Hamburg, only much more vital. Well done for having the foresight to record this and thanks very much for uploading it. You deserve a knighthood. xx
Amazed to find this on UA-cam...was at this gig...down near the front...lost a shoe...scrambling around on the floor but got picked up and saved from a kicking... found said shoe at the entrance to the venue after the gig and walked from Camden to Trafalgar Square to get food and the night bus back to Brixton...missed the bus and just carried on walking....mad!
I was at this fantastic show. I was living in Northamptonshire with my manager's family & he was so well connected that he had free entrance for us for this historic event. The band took a very long time to come out onstage then performed this short set. Apparently, they had a very naughty crew that followed them countryside that would ignite & create violence per every gig on this tour. Once the riot kicked off, in came the riot squad so I hid in a stall in the mens loo! When I found that it was kool to come out, I saw the remnants ov a smashed up venue & people scurrying everywhere. I finally made it outside the front entrance to look for my mates. We talked about this gig for weeks thereafter. Funny, in 1987 I had the honor to perform second bill with them at UC San Diego. Great but quiet lads who then proceeded to put on another amazing performance.
Yes...my friend's Wendy Hughes and Bobbu Ebz and i were in London on holiday from the States. At the last moment we took a taxi and came over to this show. What a show and what a holiday! Hung with U.K. Subs Charlie Harper, went to the 100 Club, Dingwalls, Marquee, Gossips, The Embassy....hung and partied with Lemmy. And this was only on a 10 day holiday.
I remember when they played at The World in the East Village. I didn't see them but I heard it was a mess. I knew Bobby when he lived on St.Mark's Pl with his girlfriend.
Yes...Bobby Ebz and Charlene....Bobby had a bad reputation but I was privileged to know him for years before he passed; an intelligent, witty, funny talented guy His girlfriend, Charlene, was very nice to me, too. I loved them both.
it's odd to be nearly sixty & still have this one band as my go-to. they have an album for every mood, the dreamy explosion of Pyschcandy, the beautiful & melancholic Darklands, the stark and hook-laden Automatic, the all toppings blend of Honeys Dead, the pullback expansion of Stoned, and the tilting Universe of Munki. Every compilation release treats us to a personal invite to each realm and i'll bet we heard something on one of these and thought "Damn, THAT should have been on ..." Then they seemed to go away, but the side projects and solo releases - everything they added to confirmed that "yep, that's William" or "mmm Hmm, sounds like Jim right there. Or simply The Chain with yet another link. Damage and Joy rounded up a lot of tidbits and added new ones, and further expansions while never losing their cool. And now we have Glasgow Eyes, where we are jarred at first until we realize that they did the same thing on every album: Added or left out what we may have expected while proving that whatever instruments the Reids use we can count on something simple, catchy, dark and iconic - served up on a giant middle finger.
I’m so jealous of people who had the chance to see this gig or early jamc shows! I saw them in 2017 but it was so brilliant. They are effortlessly cool
one thing's certain... you ain't ever gonna see a band like this again.. or if you do, it's gonna be stage-managed and faked (like WWF wrestling).. Oasis were somewhat 'rebellious' but not even close to the intensity of 70's punk or what JAMC did in the 80's, or what Nirvana did 80/90's. Say goodbye to original music.. and hang onto yer vinyl.. make sure to play it at yer kids and play it LOUD!
Check out A Place To Bury Stranger. Their an incredible noise rock band that shares a lot of similarities to JAMC. Especially the song To Fix A Gash In Your Head. Their a new band too
YES! And I hated the fucking Smiths.. twee and fey and fronted by a smirking old queen that considered himself better than everyone else. He's since gone full-on fascist but I could see that nastiness in him even then. Morrissey was never remotely as intelligent as he thought and I'm delighted that decades later I've been proved correct 👍
J&MC was the first gig I ever went to on my 16th birthday, Oct 1988 Easts Leagues in Brisbane, Barbed Wire Kisses tour. Amazing night, character forming, changed me from boy to man, my ears rang for 3 days straight! This would look good with a stabilizer applied.
I saw JAMC at North Lonon Poly the same year and a riot ensued. I only saw them once more, I think in 1986 at the National Ballroom Kilburn - fantastic gig. Me and wor lass had an almighty row just before JAMC came on stage and she stormed out expecting me to follow. We're not together any more. Hee Hee.
From Wikipedia: "Many performances were cancelled during the remainder of 1985, with promoters or local councils not prepared to risk a riot. The violence flared up again at a performance at the Electric Ballroom in Camden Town in September, with bottles thrown at the band while they played, and a section of the audience smashing up the amplification equipment and smashing the lights afterwards, with several people injured by flying glass."
@timwhallon3605 that's very nice of you to say Tim, I really appreciate that you enjoyed the video. I originally uploaded the master video to the site 'Dimeadozen' which is an awesome sharing site for unofficial recordings. I subsequently misplaced the tape and haven't found it since. I first saw the band earlier that year and there was a riot when the band left the stage. I thought I would record this one and very glad that I did.
1989 they made a show in a huge festival in Estonia (stll part of Soviet Union btw) called Rock Summer (they were NOT the headliners, That Petrol Emotion and Robert Cray were) and they also destroyed a mike stand and a monitor. This caused a huge scandal in Estonia, newspaper wrote how horrible it was etc. but it was the first time I recognized J & MC. Although actually their videos were shown in Estonian TV even before and talked about but I was a way too young to notice them then.
Saw them live in Plymouth in '85. The NME said their concerts all ended in riots, and they didn't have enough material and didn't care. I knew the small venue's owner, he told me "we have a band coming next week that makes the Sex Pistols look like choirboys".. still remember his quote and the very loud and very short concert (maybe 4 or 5 songs)...amazing experience though..
Great records and confrontational live shows. From what I've heard, they had some pretty notorious early gigs. Thanks for providing an example of that! 🤘
Yes there will and then they’ll say this same mantra, it’s nature, the tree grows mighty then is felled by the axe another grows in its place, then comes the axe whose handle is made from the previous felled tree, the tree grows mighty, then comes the axe man, what people mistake for “never happening again” musically is the precise MOMEMT in time which this music was made, the 1985 will never happen again, but a band of genius youth filled with apathy and hatred at a current moment in times musical taste to be destroyed WILL
To be fair I'm only 12 minutes in but Jim is squirming around like he's got ants in his pants, or he's on a bad trip! I was led to believe the audience is fucking with him, yet, no one else seems to bothered?
....in 1985...i spent a week in London..saw the jamc Gig with Shop assistants and the great Inca Babies in support...recorded the Gigs.... Also See Inca Babies 9.9.85...here ON YT audio rec. ,what a great time..!!🖐️🖐️😀
The early disturbances were real, BUT by early 1985 they were already got a contract with Warner. Warner made them a fake sub label called Blanco Y Negro, so they would still look authentic, like the rest of the emerging Indie guitar bands at the time. My thinking is from early to mid 1985 it was made up/ provoked agitation BY THE RECORD COMPANY as a form of Marketing, to attract more attention. Just my take on it. They kept the chaos going as a form of marketing/ attention
This was the last great art statement band of the Rock Era. The Ramones would play 20 minute sets at CBGBs in 1975 but that was due to having no material and 2 minute songs. Pere Ubu were a pop band by 1985. This was on purpose. Intentional Art. Play 6 songs for 19 minutes and walk off stage. No encore. "Stop!" I saw them in Jan 85 in WDC and they played 35 minutes facing their backline. Most of the yet unreleased album. But the album wasn't out yet and the anger displayed here was missing. This was a reaction to 9 months of slavish UK music press hype. By Sep 85 they had 4 hit singles and they only played one here. Trip/Reach on b-side. Just Like Honey was out by now but they were in reactionary "anti-star" mode. Brilliant in any incarnation.
Wow, eletric violence! But, where the fuck are William? What's the name of the first and the last song? Both put Jim in a devil's possession or something like that, haha.
i think the book thomas wrote taking the piss out of "the singer" and the rest of the attractions as well as his general indifference to touring etc led to a distancing from the group and costello he is much older than costello and has "been through it all before" hence the indifference
I'm an American and I had the privilege to see the bad brains play at the electric ballroom back in the 1987, it was just by chance I was in the UK thanks for sharing this video it's amazing I love the JMC,
As I recall,only at this gig.Several live tapes I once had ,I can only recall a few exchanges ,introducing ‘Ambition’ late 1984 shows ,or at the ‘Old Ambulance Station’ where the P.A. ends up in the audience and Jim barks ‘Where the fuck were you all six fucking months ago’.
i remember costello playing a really heartfelt guitar solo for sweet pear live 91 - unusual for him to play guitar solos but that song obviously meant a lot costello's commentary on - a right spectacle - hilarious digs at bruce thomas when he appears in the videos never understood why costello didnt release that day is done first - maybe too many songs so mccartney issued it first - maybe too close to costello with veronica on spike and subject matter the same
difficult to just pick one track - with costello there are so many - poor deportee, heathen town - all of get happy - mighty like a rose is a favourite even though many people dont like it - ive got to say i prefer costello with the attractions but have seen him with the confederates, rude 5 and imposters and he is always worth seeing with Lloyd Cole similar problem - love all the commotions - not sure about the new solo album - will need to listen more your thoughts?
Very, very musically important recording. Like finding a recording of the Beatles in Hamburg, only much more vital. Well done for having the foresight to record this and thanks very much for uploading it. You deserve a knighthood. xx
And then Simon is still living in Curitiba, don't have more news
Fucking knighthood? Get a grip. Abolish the monarchy.
0:38 just out of reach
2:43 you trip me up
5:09 inside me
9:09 in a hole
12:03 the living end
15:09 cracked
Amazed to find this on UA-cam...was at this gig...down near the front...lost a shoe...scrambling around on the floor but got picked up and saved from a kicking... found said shoe at the entrance to the venue after the gig and walked from Camden to Trafalgar Square to get food and the night bus back to Brixton...missed the bus and just carried on walking....mad!
Quite a walk
best band in the world, everything i ever wanted in rock and roll - reverb, 60's minimalism, great melodies, darkness, primitive and punk!
100% agreed
They got me into the old 60’s garage bands ,JAMC know their music.
Thats a stretch
I was at this fantastic show. I was living in Northamptonshire with my manager's family & he was so well connected that he had free entrance for us for this historic event. The band took a very long time to come out onstage then performed this short set. Apparently, they had a very naughty crew that followed them countryside that would ignite & create violence per every gig on this tour. Once the riot kicked off, in came the riot squad so I hid in a stall in the mens loo! When I found that it was kool to come out, I saw the remnants ov a smashed up venue & people scurrying everywhere. I finally made it outside the front entrance to look for my mates. We talked about this gig for weeks thereafter. Funny, in 1987 I had the honor to perform second bill with them at UC San Diego. Great but quiet lads who then proceeded to put on another amazing performance.
What do you think about My Bloody Valentine? Been to a concert at the time?
Yes...my friend's Wendy Hughes and Bobbu Ebz and i were in London on holiday from the States. At the last moment we took a taxi and came over to this show. What a show and what a holiday! Hung with U.K. Subs Charlie Harper, went to the 100 Club, Dingwalls, Marquee, Gossips, The Embassy....hung and partied with Lemmy. And this was only on a 10 day holiday.
I remember when they played at The World in the East Village. I didn't see them but I heard it was a mess. I knew Bobby when he lived on St.Mark's Pl with his girlfriend.
absolutely 100% as I remember it. I went in there KNOWING there was a very good chance of violence. A night to remember.
Yes...Bobby Ebz and Charlene....Bobby had a bad reputation but I was privileged to know him for years before he passed; an intelligent, witty, funny talented guy His girlfriend, Charlene, was very nice to me, too. I loved them both.
This stuff is holy grail material, thanks to the person who captured this.
Excellent historical document.
this is very important
it's odd to be nearly sixty & still have this one band as my go-to. they have an album for every mood, the dreamy explosion of Pyschcandy, the beautiful & melancholic Darklands, the stark and hook-laden Automatic, the all toppings blend of Honeys Dead, the pullback expansion of Stoned, and the tilting Universe of Munki.
Every compilation release treats us to a personal invite to each realm and i'll bet we heard something on one of these and thought "Damn, THAT should have been on ..." Then they seemed to go away, but the side projects and solo releases - everything they added to confirmed that "yep, that's William" or "mmm Hmm, sounds like Jim right there. Or simply The Chain with yet another link. Damage and Joy rounded up a lot of tidbits and added new ones, and further expansions while never losing their cool. And now we have Glasgow Eyes, where we are jarred at first until we realize that they did the same thing on every album: Added or left out what we may have expected while proving that whatever instruments the Reids use we can count on something simple, catchy, dark and iconic - served up on a giant middle finger.
I’m so jealous of people who had the chance to see this gig or early jamc shows! I saw them in 2017 but it was so brilliant. They are effortlessly cool
one thing's certain... you ain't ever gonna see a band like this again.. or if you do, it's gonna be stage-managed and faked (like WWF wrestling).. Oasis were somewhat 'rebellious' but not even close to the intensity of 70's punk or what JAMC did in the 80's, or what Nirvana did 80/90's. Say goodbye to original music.. and hang onto yer vinyl.. make sure to play it at yer kids and play it LOUD!
THE ROLE MODELS
Wait 4 mouth and you will see what happens when
Lol ever listened to rap music ?
Check out A Place To Bury Stranger. Their an incredible noise rock band that shares a lot of similarities to JAMC. Especially the song To Fix A Gash In Your Head. Their a new band too
This band brought joy to my life in the 80’s and 90’s,kicking synth pop up the arse at the same time,putting guitars back in the National charts.
Couldn't have put it better !!
@robbjob1725 & StinkyCheeky,
Great to see there's like-minded people still around. 👍
drum beat then total distortion
love it
best band ever
the southern softies didn't seem to enjoy it much. I heard the Smiths were big at the time... ha ha
I was born a few days after this... the Mary Chain were the 1980s, the most genuinely great thing about the decade.
pretty much the only good thing that I can think of that came out of the 80s.
YES! And I hated the fucking Smiths.. twee and fey and fronted by a smirking old queen that considered himself better than everyone else. He's since gone full-on fascist but I could see that nastiness in him even then. Morrissey was never remotely as intelligent as he thought and I'm delighted that decades later I've been proved correct 👍
J&MC was the first gig I ever went to on my 16th birthday, Oct 1988 Easts Leagues in Brisbane, Barbed Wire Kisses tour. Amazing night, character forming, changed me from boy to man, my ears rang for 3 days straight! This would look good with a stabilizer applied.
The wind is screaming through the trees for my psychocandy!
I saw JAMC at North Lonon Poly the same year and a riot ensued. I only saw them once more, I think in 1986 at the National Ballroom Kilburn - fantastic gig. Me and wor lass had an almighty row just before JAMC came on stage and she stormed out expecting me to follow. We're not together any more. Hee Hee.
From Wikipedia: "Many performances were cancelled during the remainder of 1985, with promoters or local councils not prepared to risk a riot. The violence flared up again at a performance at the Electric Ballroom in Camden Town in September, with bottles thrown at the band while they played, and a section of the audience smashing up the amplification equipment and smashing the lights afterwards, with several people injured by flying glass."
It wasnt easy to bring their sound live but it was a revolution.
I filmed this!
I just realized I was there too. Mad brilliant days and nights 😎.... You really had to be there 😮....
you filmed and posted this? that makes you just as awesome as them. most of us would not have tis treasure if not for you.
@timwhallon3605 that's very nice of you to say Tim, I really appreciate that you enjoyed the video. I originally uploaded the master video to the site 'Dimeadozen' which is an awesome sharing site for unofficial recordings. I subsequently misplaced the tape and haven't found it since.
I first saw the band earlier that year and there was a riot when the band left the stage. I thought I would record this one and very glad that I did.
1989 they made a show in a huge festival in Estonia (stll part of Soviet Union btw) called Rock Summer (they were NOT the headliners, That Petrol Emotion and Robert Cray were) and they also destroyed a mike stand and a monitor. This caused a huge scandal in Estonia, newspaper wrote how horrible it was etc. but it was the first time I recognized J & MC. Although actually their videos were shown in Estonian TV even before and talked about but I was a way too young to notice them then.
I don't think that's correct. I was there. That sort of thing had stopped happening a long time ago.
@@DrMadv1be it was a far cry from the destruction visible here and their show in RS was actually decent. They jusy damaged a stage monitor.
Saw them live in Plymouth in '85. The NME said their concerts all ended in riots, and they didn't have enough material and didn't care. I knew the small venue's owner, he told me "we have a band coming next week that makes the Sex Pistols look like choirboys".. still remember his quote and the very loud and very short concert (maybe 4 or 5 songs)...amazing experience though..
Jeff Barrett
Great records and confrontational live shows. From what I've heard, they had some pretty notorious early gigs. Thanks for providing an example of that! 🤘
Awesome, those were the heydays of music! Wish such pure and raw performances would still exist today :-)
People never stopped experimenting and raw music never stopped being made, you just got old.
Coolest band ever
Brilliant, the essence of rock and roll, incredibly cool, we need some new bands like this !
There's no one band like this, never was and never will be another just like them...
Yes there will and then they’ll say this same mantra, it’s nature, the tree grows mighty then is felled by the axe another grows in its place, then comes the axe whose handle is made from the previous felled tree, the tree grows mighty, then comes the axe man, what people mistake for “never happening again” musically is the precise MOMEMT in time which this music was made, the 1985 will never happen again, but a band of genius youth filled with apathy and hatred at a current moment in times musical taste to be destroyed WILL
Ever heard of a place to bury strangers?
"Jesus Fuck" what a fucking phrase, that's heavy man
"Filma! Filma tutto mannaggiaaaa!!!" ( 20:33 )
Sounds like the microphone is t working at beginning ..
To be fair I'm only 12 minutes in but Jim is squirming around like he's got ants in his pants, or he's on a bad trip! I was led to believe the audience is fucking with him, yet, no one else seems to bothered?
Reading Zoe Howe's book on The Mary Chain as I view this....
So am I!
So am I 😮
THE BEST BAND EVER
the best band of the world
Not before or since has anything matched them
....in 1985...i spent a week in London..saw the jamc Gig with Shop assistants and the great Inca Babies in support...recorded the Gigs.... Also See Inca Babies 9.9.85...here ON YT audio rec. ,what a great time..!!🖐️🖐️😀
First song is "Just Out of Reach". As far as I know the only album it's on is Barbed Wire Kisses.
Daniel Field it's from the You Trip Me Up 12"
these days it's also on the expanded version of Psychocandy, which is just Psychocandy and a load of 12" b-sides and live versions
the most violence of the rock and roll history
@Yes No
GG was a novelty act, such a gutless turd.
0:01 Just out of Reach
2:43 You Trip Me Up
5:02 Inside Me
8:40 In a hole
11:51 Living End
14:31 Cracked
18:38 "Stop!"
19:18 Show is over
soo good. thanks.
Top
ahah could hear Italians with strong Roman accent by the end LOL
the show that spawned the House of Love according to wikipedia
THIS IS A BAND THAT MADE US WANT TO START OUR BAND
Around the second half of this the lead guitar just gets more and more experimental...
teenagershoegazer - 1st song Just out of Reach - Last one Jesus Fuck - Those were the days !!!
16:00 Jesus Fuck
They're letting the distortion of their guitars do more than the playing
I was there!
The very best. No shite accepted 💗🇬🇧 ....ever.
😳 every bit as heavy as I imagined it would have been
The early disturbances were real, BUT
by early 1985 they were already got a contract with Warner. Warner made them a fake sub label called Blanco Y Negro, so they would still look authentic, like the rest of the emerging Indie guitar bands at the time.
My thinking is from early to mid 1985 it was made up/ provoked agitation BY THE RECORD COMPANY as a form of Marketing, to attract more attention. Just my take on it.
They kept the chaos going as a form of marketing/ attention
the ‘riots’ were fake too. the jamc crew did it to build contoversy.
lol at a certain point the astro turfing becomes charming for the sheer lengths they were willing to go
The 80s sex pistols
The sound quality is horrendous.
jmac the noisy punk years.
スゲ〜！！イギリスの宝♬ROCK歴史伝説
Don't do drugs, kids.
20 minutes - thats yer lot !..lol
just out of reach
What is the playlist?
awkward but brilliant as all hard things are
shamanic :)
I was there.
This was the last great art statement band of the Rock Era.
The Ramones would play 20 minute sets at CBGBs in 1975 but that was due to having no material and 2 minute songs. Pere Ubu were a pop band by 1985.
This was on purpose. Intentional Art.
Play 6 songs for 19 minutes and walk off stage.
No encore.
"Stop!"
I saw them in Jan 85 in WDC and they played 35 minutes facing their backline. Most of the yet unreleased album.
But the album wasn't out yet and the anger displayed here was missing.
This was a reaction to 9 months of slavish UK music press hype.
By Sep 85 they had 4 hit singles and they only played one here. Trip/Reach on b-side.
Just Like Honey was out by now but they were in reactionary "anti-star" mode.
Brilliant in any incarnation.
Raw Rock and Roll !!!!
1985. The Roxy in Hollywood.
I stood my Williams side of the stage.
oi, there's bobby on drums from joy division!
Nechepsos Muun
um NOPE.
@Lee Naylor it was a joke. the band's imagery is very early joy division and looks nazi-centric.
@Lee Naylor The drumming is very similar to Joy Division
@@honeypower one drummer had 30 drums and played like a drum machine, the other was a drunk with two drums and a mallet
Bigger than Beatles, bigger than Mao
best comment ever bro. and so true.
animalmother4, no-no, The Living End was played later (13+ minute), and I can't identify 1st song(
"Just Out Of Reach" was the first song
the first one is "Just out of reach "
Saw their first gig in NYC. 5 OR 6 songs.. a lot more fog .. 25 minute show tops but was worth every second. My ears are still ringing. ..lol
Was Alan McGee the cameraman? Or was he busy directing the rent-a-riot.
Wow, eletric violence! But, where the fuck are William? What's the name of the first and the last song? Both put Jim in a devil's possession or something like that, haha.
what's the set list
What happens at the end??
i think the book thomas wrote taking the piss out of "the singer" and the rest of the attractions as well as his general indifference to touring etc led to a distancing from the group and costello
he is much older than costello and has "been through it all before" hence the indifference
I'm an American and I had the privilege to see the bad brains play at the electric ballroom back in the 1987, it was just by chance I was in the UK thanks for sharing this video it's amazing I love the JMC,
now your talking sense
if you like those 3 then i think we need to call a truce
Fucking great. x
Does Jim still shout ‘Stop’ to mark the end of the songs?
As I recall,only at this gig.Several live tapes I once had ,I can only recall a few exchanges ,introducing ‘Ambition’ late 1984 shows ,or at the ‘Old Ambulance Station’ where the P.A. ends up in the audience and Jim barks ‘Where the fuck were you all six fucking months ago’.
Thanks
is the 1st song 'the living end'?
all gone pop by then
1985 was a good year
thank you, was there too!
STOP
AWWSOME
Time to put psycho candy on my mp3 player
i remember costello playing a really heartfelt guitar solo for sweet pear live 91 - unusual for him to play guitar solos but that song obviously meant a lot
costello's commentary on - a right spectacle - hilarious digs at bruce thomas when he appears in the videos
never understood why costello didnt release that day is done first - maybe too many songs so mccartney issued it first - maybe too close to costello with veronica on spike and subject matter the same
difficult to just pick one track - with costello there are so many - poor deportee, heathen town - all of get happy - mighty like a rose is a favourite even though many people dont like it - ive got to say i prefer costello with the attractions but have seen him with the confederates, rude 5 and imposters and he is always worth seeing
with Lloyd Cole similar problem - love all the commotions - not sure about the new solo album - will need to listen more
your thoughts?
I know i`m 9 years late but what the fuck as this got to do with Elvis Bloody Costello.
If they would have only released Psychocandy, Darklands and Barbed Wire Kisses their legend status would have been secure
*Go on*
*Get out*
*This ain't Woodstock*