What luck! I won ten bob on an illicit sweepstake run by the school spiv. The excitement of crowding into the school's television room and seeing Kilmore win!
Great stuff chatham43, Wyndburgh National record 2nd,4th, 2nd, fell, 6th, 2nd what a trooper. Fred Winter rode a great race on the winner. Taxidermist with Lord Oaksey on board was bred by Evan Williams who had won the 1937 Grand National on Royal Mail and his son Ian Williams bred Rag Trade who won the 1976 Grand National.
actually there are probably more wyndburghs and the pilgarlics out there but the fences today are so easy you cant tell who might be a great aintree horse
@@stuartgish Hi , He surely was sir and a honest down to earth jockey. To this day I feel the 1974 Whitbread was a injustice that John and Proud Tarquin lost the race in the stewards room to Ron Barry and The Dickler. May I ask do you have a view sir.Kind regards Glynn n greetings from Stourbridge West Midlands UK 🕊🕊🕊
Great jockey Fred Winter and a great win as he wasn't even mentioned until the close of the race. I was born on that day and my Dad had the winner. 60 years very shortly. My dad is 90 in June and shares a birthday with Sir Paul McCartney 18th June. Let's celebrate when we can in these difficult times. To the people of the Ukraine (Слава Україні!,)💔 Regards, Brendan x😎
My birthday is 18 June! AND I won ten bob on Kilmore in a sweepstake run by the school spiv. One of my happiest memories. Best wishes from John Keegan😊
Amazing how Freda's Son seems to struggle over every fence and almost falls at Canal second time and yet hangs on to the lead till very near the end. Pity didn't get in the top four. Gallant performance.
@@gregl6527 Hi Greg, I noticed that too. Momentous Grand Nationals then but sadly the race as been diluted down to O and is now a long distance N.H race. My first T.V National 1967 n say no more.!. I was hooked ' Best National jockey In my view the late Brian Fletcher a very acumlished horse man and modest too. Also this one the late Fred Winter and my late dad said he was best jockey he had ever seen and tremendous vision for the pace of a race. Momentous days sir.Kind regards Glynn n greetings from Stourbridge West Midlands 🤝
@@glynnevans1851 Yep Glyn.... Its a pale shadow of what it use to be ....Still some great footage on UA-cam though - it's all we've left...Yes Brian was an excellent horseman & much underated... I use to always back The Pilgarlic - a guaranteed finisher who lacked a bit of foot ! One of my favourite pieces on UA-cam is actually the Mackeson gold cup at Cheltenham in an absolute bog - would never of been run today ....Flying Bolt sprinting through puddles with 12stone + what a bloody horse ...... Demolished the field...
@@gregl6527 Cheers for your reply Greg, The Pilgarlic was a gallant genuine horse and also ran in The Topham Trophy and Foxhunters chase too.His record at Aintree was Remarkable from 76 till 81.N trained by the legend Fred Rimell. Flying Bolt was Momentous and on par with Arkle then .In those days the Mackeson was very highly acclaimed .Kind regards Glynn n greetings from Stourbridge West Midlands 🤝
this years race was very similar to the 1962 one. only 3 gone on first circuit , and like '62 the action also really began at the 19th fence , very similar race imo
Originally he was owned & trained by John Ryan, Clonoulty. Brother of my grandfather. Sold shortly before this race to Ryan Price.Was not aware that there was a townland called Kilmore.
Yes, Frenchman's Cove was a wonderful flashy chestnut. He was a very good horse in his own right. After being brought down in this Grand National, he went on just a month later to beat a very competitive field in the Whitbread Gold Cup at Sandown. Starting at 7/2 favourite he beat some very good chasers that included Carrickbeg, Springbok, Nicolaus Silver, Pas Seul and Taxidermist.
Some good horses, taxidermist, frenchmans cove, duplicater and fredas son team spirit and Mr what, wynborough, Nicholas Silver. Nicholas Silver had won the 1961 GN. He was the 1st grey horse of the 20th century to win the grand national.
@@chatham43 I love racing, my blacksmith worked for noel murless, so I would tag along. Also luv TBs, to me most incredible and intelligent horses around. Also good racehorse called Chatham.
You are spot on, as usual, Barbara. I know from past experience that you are heavily involved with horses and you certainly know your stuff. Take care, Barbara,
I read somewhere that there was only one fatality in the whole of the 1960s. Watching that, I can see they went a sensible gallop. I think the steeplechaser breed has changed a bit since then, though - they just looked so much more robust then.
...in the '65 National as well I think.....Fred Pontin also owned a horse called Go-Pontinental which ran in the 68/73/74 Nationals.....and owned the '71 winner...Specify....
not sure even the 66 winner anglo was called flag of convenience, i suppose if your a rich business man like fred pontin anythings possible, in the 1840s there was a grey horse called peter simple who ran in quite a few nationals, then another peter simple arrived a few years later and won it twice, i dont think there are any rules about renaming so long as the other horse has retired
There is a town called Kilmore in my home state of Victoria. And yes there is a racetrack as well.
The great Fred Winter.
Hi great race thank you 😀
I was 13 years old and won just over a £1 in the school sweepstake. Happy day because a pound was a lot in those days
What luck! I won ten bob on an illicit sweepstake run by the school spiv. The excitement of crowding into the school's television room and seeing Kilmore win!
Great stuff chatham43, Wyndburgh National record 2nd,4th, 2nd, fell, 6th, 2nd what a trooper. Fred Winter rode a great race on the winner. Taxidermist with Lord Oaksey on board was bred by Evan Williams who had won the 1937 Grand National on Royal Mail and his son Ian Williams bred Rag Trade who won the 1976 Grand National.
Lord Oaksey was John Lawrence then.
They don't make them like Wyndburgh anymore.
actually there are probably more wyndburghs and the pilgarlics out there but the fences today are so easy you cant tell who might be a great aintree horse
@@ftorres93 No they don't. Too much flat-race pedigree.
@@stuartgish Hi , He surely was sir and a honest down to earth jockey. To this day I feel the 1974 Whitbread was a injustice that John and Proud Tarquin lost the race in the stewards room to Ron Barry and The Dickler. May I ask do you have a view sir.Kind regards Glynn n greetings from Stourbridge West Midlands UK 🕊🕊🕊
Great ride by Fred
Great jockey Fred Winter and a great win as he wasn't even mentioned until the close of the race.
I was born on that day and my Dad had the winner.
60 years very shortly.
My dad is 90 in June and shares a birthday with Sir Paul McCartney 18th June.
Let's celebrate when we can in these difficult times.
To the people of the Ukraine (Слава Україні!,)💔
Regards,
Brendan x😎
Thought you might of been called fred
@@gazowen7310
No thankfully not but a great jockey none the less and a shrewd win in the end.
My birthday is 18 June! AND I won ten bob on Kilmore in a sweepstake run by the school spiv. One of my happiest memories. Best wishes from John Keegan😊
Amazing how Freda's Son seems to struggle over every fence and almost falls at Canal second time and yet hangs on to the lead till very near the end. Pity didn't get in the top four. Gallant performance.
Fredith's Son.
Clattered nearly every fence ....But obviously can gallop all day tough horse
@@gregl6527 Hi Greg, I noticed that too. Momentous Grand Nationals then but sadly the race as been diluted down to O and is now a long distance N.H race. My first T.V National 1967 n say no more.!. I was hooked ' Best National jockey In my view the late Brian Fletcher a very acumlished horse man and modest too. Also this one the late Fred Winter and my late dad said he was best jockey he had ever seen and tremendous vision for the pace of a race. Momentous days sir.Kind regards Glynn n greetings from Stourbridge West Midlands 🤝
@@glynnevans1851
Yep Glyn....
Its a pale shadow of what it use to be ....Still some great footage on UA-cam though - it's all we've left...Yes Brian was an excellent horseman & much underated...
I use to always back The Pilgarlic - a guaranteed finisher who lacked a bit of foot !
One of my favourite pieces on UA-cam is actually the Mackeson gold cup at Cheltenham in an absolute bog - would never of been run today ....Flying Bolt sprinting through puddles with 12stone + what a bloody horse ...... Demolished the field...
@@gregl6527 Cheers for your reply Greg, The Pilgarlic was a gallant genuine horse and also ran in The Topham Trophy and Foxhunters chase too.His record at Aintree was Remarkable from 76 till 81.N trained by the legend Fred Rimell. Flying Bolt was Momentous and on par with Arkle then .In those days the Mackeson was very highly acclaimed .Kind regards Glynn n greetings from Stourbridge West Midlands 🤝
My dad backed the winner, his name was frank KILMORE
Kilmore wasn't mentioned until the second Becher's, but then steadily moved up until he hit the front at about the last fence.
this years race was very similar to the 1962 one. only 3 gone on first circuit , and like '62 the action also really began at the 19th fence , very similar race imo
Originally he was owned & trained by John Ryan, Clonoulty. Brother of my grandfather. Sold shortly before this race to Ryan Price.
Fred winter genius
Kilmore was named after the townland of Kilmore near Clonoulty, Co. Tipperary, where he spent some of his early years.
Originally he was owned & trained by John Ryan, Clonoulty. Brother of my grandfather. Sold shortly before this race to Ryan Price.Was not aware that there was a townland called Kilmore.
The master
When I was a kid Frenchmans Cove was my favourite horse x until Arkle came along. x.
Yes, Frenchman's Cove was a wonderful flashy chestnut. He was a very good horse in his own right. After being brought down in this Grand National, he went on just a month later to beat a very competitive field in the Whitbread Gold Cup at Sandown. Starting at 7/2 favourite he beat some very good chasers that included Carrickbeg, Springbok, Nicolaus Silver, Pas Seul and Taxidermist.
I backed it! Five bob each way! I was 17!
Great run by nicholas silver having won year before
Some good horses, taxidermist, frenchmans cove, duplicater and fredas son team spirit and Mr what, wynborough, Nicholas Silver. Nicholas Silver had won the 1961 GN. He was the 1st grey horse of the 20th century to win the grand national.
....the only grey of the 20th century to win....agree...a classy field...
@@chatham43 I love racing, my blacksmith worked for noel murless, so I would tag along. Also luv TBs, to me most incredible and intelligent horses around. Also good racehorse called Chatham.
You are spot on, as usual, Barbara. I know from past experience that you are heavily involved with horses and you certainly know your stuff. Take care, Barbara,
Clover bud ran in 60 61 and 62 and never got a single mention
Clover Bud did win the Welsh Grand National at Chepstow in 1960 ridden by David Nicholson
Way better than I is ow
Great jumping from the leaders until they tired. Must have been a fast time.
9 mins 50secs suggests it was soft ground.
Hmm, watched a lot of the old Nationals now, didn't seem to be as many fatalities then as there are now since the fences have been 'modified'.
I read somewhere that there was only one fatality in the whole of the 1960s. Watching that, I can see they went a sensible gallop. I think the steeplechaser breed has changed a bit since then, though - they just looked so much more robust then.
Wyndburgh a great horse
gay naverree ran in the 1966 grand national as pontin go
...in the '65 National as well I think.....Fred Pontin also owned a horse called Go-Pontinental which ran in the 68/73/74 Nationals.....and owned the '71 winner...Specify....
what wud have happened if gay navaree had won in 62 and pontin go had won in 66 wud we have had a dual winner
go pontinental was originally called arkle
...what are the rules regarding changing a horses name....or re-using a name..?
not sure even the 66 winner anglo was called flag of convenience, i suppose if your a rich business man like fred pontin anythings possible, in the 1840s there was a grey horse called peter simple who ran in quite a few nationals, then another peter simple arrived a few years later and won it twice, i dont think there are any rules about renaming so long as the other horse has retired