Sol is definitely the next Fighting game character I wanna see make it as Smash dlc. Sol’s splash screen would probably be like, “Sol Badguy Gears Up!” or “Sol Badguy Bursts Into Battle!”
Sol's simplification in Strive makes for even better Smash potential
Honestly I think the older version fits better gameplay wise. Strive sol is slower and more focused on grounded pressure with far slash. That kind of plus on block offense doesn't really work with how shields are designed. Also wild throw be combo starter is too cool.
Imagine that when sol changes alts, the “rock on” on his head band also changes, like with the ky alt, it would say “hope”
Would probably change on his belt to "Hope" for Ky and "Pride" for Leo skin alts
Order Sol SHOULD be a costume. Other than that perfect video bro! He's been one of my most wanted forever now
My most wanted character finally getting a video of this kind...
INSTANT SUB.
Seeing a guilty gear character would be interesting to see in smash nice video man
I know this was made 11 months ago but i would have order sol as an alt. Costume and whatever his stage is have it say at the beginning of the round "heaven or hell, duel one, lets rock!"
I really wished Sol in Smash
He's not going to have an "up yours" taunt, that's for sure. XD
They can replace it with Order Sol's 'neck slit' taunt. Although Sol flipping off Kirby would be funny.
They'd probaby choose thumbs up taunt, thumbs down taunt, and maybe something like the neck thing he does
I love seeing the changes they make to characters in some cases. My favorite example is Bayonetta's reveal trailer where she says "Don't mess with a witch"
I'm not familiar with Guilty Gear, but I sometimes see Sol's name being thrown around. After seeing a couple of videos supporting Sol Badguy for Smash including yours, I think he would be a great DLC character! You've done an amazingly thorough job with his potential moveset and to be honest, I think he would be more powerful than Ganondorf.
Yeah, he isn't extremely popular like other characters, it's understandable because he is a traditional fighting character, a genre which most of Smash fans aren't that familiar with (nothing wrong with that). On top of that Guilty Gear, while has legacy and it's influential, isn't that well known like Mortal Kombat or Tekken, I guess a part of that it's because the anime influence.
But I think he has a shot, if Joker got in Sol can happen in my opinion. He could bring some interesting mechanics from GG like roman cancels, air dash, and other ones. And while his moveset isn't the most crazy in Guilty Gear, I think he would fit very well in Smash and could be very cool to play and watch.
One of the reasons I think he isn't impossible is because Arc System is in it's own way a relevant and important developer that usually Smash fans don't mention that much, like SNK, a company that maybe people didn't discussed that much but makes a lot of sense for being in Smash, the same could apply to Arcsys I believe.
Honestly? If the ARMS character isn't a promotion, I'd say Sol's chances will shoot up pretty high. Not an instant lock, mind you, never say someone's a lock or you'll take a curveball to the face, but I'd say he'd be pretty likely.
Dude! This is fantastic. As a huge Guilty a Gear fan, I would love Sol in Smash. I was honestly planning on doing a similar video to this but your ideas are so similar to mines that it is kind of scary. XD there are some differences but I do like your ideas better to be honest. Though one idea I have that isn't in this video I would love to see is Sol with Ragna's color pallet like in GGXXAC+R with his DUST colors.
FINALLY SOMEBODY THAT AGREES WITH ME
After playing Terry for a while, I’d have to say that I’d change his side smash for his down smash, and make Farnir a fifth special move. Aside from that. I’d also make his standard jab combo a combination of punch, kick, slash, and heavy slash. Other than that, this is a fantastic video
If Sol Were in Smash he'd be my main, haha.
I only have 2 criticisms, I feel Sol's air throw should be in as it's easy to make him use that on the ground in terms of animation and the description mentions Strive's theme as Lazy Heart when it's officially called Smell of the Game on Spotify last I checked
If sol badguy or ky kiske get into smash somehow im going to lose my shit
I love how thorough your videos are! I'm not overly familiar with Guilty Gear (only played a bit of Xrd), but I could clearly see Sol working in Smash.
You can pretty much use Order Sol's j.K as an Up Air.
Other than that, great breakdown.
*sigh* since the River City series got represented as Event Spirits, I’m going for Sol Badguy to represent ArcSys. Even if I want Sol to be the one to rep ArcSys, I also have hope for the Lee brothers from Double Dragon and Ragna the Bloodedge.
Personally, my Arc Systems character would have to be Hyde Kido from Under Night In-Birth. But I would love to see Sol come in, Guilty Gear has banger music.
I agree with Ragna, i'd love to see him in smash honestly, he coud be a rushdown character with a decent neutral who'se very tricky to fight because of soul eater, and the air dash, he could even have a meter for rapid cancels and distortions, and maybe an Astral if you have a 2 stock lead and your opponent is 100% or higher
Kazuyas in smash, ITS TIME TO DRAGON INSTALL NOW
Excellent concept, although I feel like Roman Cancel would be an additional input on top of the four specials. So, for example, Roman Cancel would be Shield + Attack + Special (so basically Grab + Special), and he would likely have, say, Ground Viper as Down Special. In addition to this, he would also have Burst as a separate meter (another whole can of worms) and could simply use Shield + Special. However, this may be a little complex to implement into the simple control scheme of Smash, so your take is also completely valid.
Another thing is about the up-air. Order Sol's j. Kick from Accent Core can hit upwards, acting very similarly to Ken's up-air. Order Sol also has a variation on Gunflame, named Blockhead Buster, which could work as an aerial version of Gunflame, as it merely has an explosion from the sword rather than a full-on projectile. I can understand wanting to keep this limited to Xrd Sol, but taking a few moves from Order Sol could help to fill in some of the blanks in the moveset, and wouldn't be too much of a stretch considering that Order Sol is literally just Sol from the past.
Also, do you think Ragna from Blazblue would work as an echo, considering the similarities between them in both backstory and gameplay?
God I really want to hear kirby yell, GUN FLAME, TRICKED YA, BREAKER
Well smash is already kind of an hyper fighter. (if it means crazy shit fighter can do, interaction, combo and obscure mechanics)
#SolForSmash
Oh, here I was hoping for an Order-Sol alternative costume. Haha
But great work, dude! This video was awesome! Keep on rockin'!
Heaven or Hell!
I'd really love to see Sol Badguy from Guilty Gear in Smash Ultimate. In addition to innovative mechanics that would make the character unique, the great songs that his inclusion to the roster would bring, like Holy Orders (Be Just or Be Dead), Haven't You Got Eyes in Your Head, Heavy Day, Play the Hero, Jack-a-Dandy, Just Do It, Armor-Clad Faith, Communication, The Man, Suck a Sage, Fuuga; among many more. Let's Rock! 🎸🔥⛓❌
I would kick ass in smash if find your one way started playing
“This will completely remove the online playstyle of “Wait until my opponent moves then I move” and it’s a glorious thing”
isn’t that just reaction-based play
I want his theme to be Heavy Day if he ever makes it in Smash.
Tracklist!
Heavy Day. Big Blast Sonic. Smell of the Game. Holy Orders XX. Wanna be Crazy. Break a Spell. Still in the Dark. Find your One Way. Alone Infection. Midnight Carnival. Armor Clad Faith. Magnolia Eclair. Mirror of the World. Love the Subhuman Self. Noontide. Rebellion (BB). Must Die (BB). Under Heaven Destruction (BB)
There is a guilty gear game that called dust strikes for the Nintendo ds its like smash
That game is actually such a hidden gem, it's the game that got me into anime fighters in general around five years ago
You talk about awesome? Sol Badguy is my all time favorite character EVER. Haven't had a chance to play Xrd, but I have done the 1998 version and X. I've wanted Sol in Smash ever since I heard of him. And with Terry's appearance (I love playing as him by the way), I believe Sol has a chance.
Sure, there's Ragna the Bloodedge, but seriously guys, The Badguy is WAY cooler.
I also forgot to mention that I really like how you went so in depth for his inclusion, but I want to say that I think a few things are TOO in depth. I.e., the air dash. Also not all of his special moves have to be included. Otherwise, great concept idea, and yeah, I too wish for the soundtrack in Smash as well. Can you imagine Give Me A Break playing in the background of a Sol and Mario fight?
@@helioshorribledude I can imagine a Smash remix of "Keep Yourself Alive" or maybe some songs from Overture.
i'd switch the ground flame and its fakeout around. i would also change roman cancel to shield during startups, cooldowns, and on-hits or change it to A+B. (mapping roman cancel to a direction plus button just feels wrong) then add another special. i would say ground viper but you rolled that into up B. could put wild throw as the down b command grab. it would also let Sol grab in the air as well.
also it looks like you only have inputs for Tension Specials?
as for extras, you wouldnt have any vocal tracks with cussing in it. (Not saying you said otherwise, just sayin.) and Nintendo wouldnt allow the up yours taunt. inkling in mario kart 8 had that and they removed it later.
Well we didn't get Heihachi, but we certainly got a Mishima from Tekken in Smash lmao
This is great
I know I'm 2 years late but Sin Kiske is Sol's Grandson not adopted son, Sin's parent's are Ky Kiske and Dizzy. Also Sol's weapon in Xrd is the Junkyard Dog Mk.III.
can amazing, very well made, very detailed, and very fitting for the flame of corruption himself. I wonder if theres one on Azure Striker Gunvolt now.
While I agree with most of this but here is what I would change:
Dash take is his flaming kick from the first guilty gear
Heavy jab is slash and light forward tilt is gut punch and keep far slash as his heavy forward tilt
Forward smash is heavy slash and have fafnir as side b
Also just for a little flair when your running there's an blue after image from gg1
This deserves more views
Guilty Gear is definitely a fighting game that needs more attention.
Arcsys is mainly known for DBFZ but they were only requested to do that because of Guilty Gear.
I know we aren’t getting anymore DLC and there’s still that missing page in the smash website, but I think we can all admit that there’s nothing left.
But hey smash ult released 2 years after the release of the last smash 4 character. So maybe in 2023 we will see Sol Badguy in the roster. (Not confirmed just me being hopeful)
Mortal Kombat: AM I A JOKE TO YOU?!?!
Dakoya yeah. Scorpion could work well… if he’s toned down to match the “good boy & girl” nature of Smash Bros.
Me and my besty were saying how great thisd be the other day. Let's get this hyped please
Hey very good video!
You know something, how will the burst mechanic works in Smash Bros. since it's not mentioned in this video?
Air dashing would honestly be amazing
d love to see an updated version of this
If final smash gauge is enabled/There's another Sol in the match, taunting with his thumbs down/middle finger should give them a tiny bit of tension/final smash gauge when you use it
I really like your break down of Sol but I feel like it would’ve been nice if you talked about what Sol’s stage and tracks that play in the background would be. I feel like either Neo New York, May’s Ship, or the Illyria Kingdom would be good stages to use.
As for music, since Guilty Gear is well known for its songs, I think it would make sense for it to have almost as many songs as SNK. The songs I personally would pick are of course the Missing Link cast’s individual themes,
Noontide
Meet Again
Anji theme
a remix of Chipp’s theme
Get Down to Business
a remix of Keep Yourself Alive
Holy Orders remix
Still in the Dark
Big Blast Sonic
Bump
Keep the Flag Flying, etc.
Yes!
This is awesome! Sol is my most wanted character. But do another arcsystems character like Ragna the Bloodedge from Blazblue or even Hyde Kido from Under Night In Birth.
Glad you like it! Also, I don't want to give anything away right now, but all I'll say is that your wish might come true in the next couple of months.
Good video but I feel like this version would be waaaayyyy too nerfed
As a Sol main, and a Terry main in Smash, I would say that in Smash, Sol would DEFINITELY not be allowed to Roman Cancel out of a Volcanic Viper, like at all. Even if he does connect with it. That would make his ability to recover too OP, putting it even higher than the likes of ZSS, Pikachu/Pichu, and Villager/Isabelle.
My assumption is that true input heavy Volcanic Viper would have about the same recovery distance as True Input Fierce Shoryuken from Ken. With your idea, that means that from the literal bottom left corner of the blast zone, Sol would be able to make it back, not only to ledge, but to the top platform of Battlefield, and most likely kill whatever he's dragging with him.
As badass as that concept would be, it'd be too broken for Smash. Sol would immediately be the frontrunner for the Sma5h equivalent of Brawl Meta Knight.
I wanna add something to the vid. Alternate costumes.
His attire during his days being part of the Holy Order, his 2D pixle attire, Xrd attire and his Guilty Gear StrIVe attire.
Hey, very amazing video you got here, but with the release of StrIVe coming, do you think you would make a new video around changing some of his moves that? If not, that’s fine ^^
you forgot BURST gauge
its in every GG game
will winning with bandit breach have the character murdered on the floor with sol standing in the background?
Finally some good fucking character moveset concepts
i am not much a Guilty gear fan but it would be cool if he would be in Smash but i really would love to see Mostly Ragna the Bloodedge from BlazBlue in Smash due i think he has much of a higher change to be in Smash due of a few Nintendo games BlazBlue have then Guilt gear really ^^;
THAT IS BULLSHIT BLAZING
I’d actually play smash again if Sol was in. I adore guilty gear
But perhaps what if they added
The one
The only
Just fine and dandy
Slayer
bandit bringer is power dunk
i feel like sol's dark red outfit and white hair references ragna from blazblue, another arc system works character
My most wanted male character for smash.
I wanna be greedy and say I want both Sol and Ky and smash 😭😭 doesn’t feel right to exclude Ky. But this was an excellent video!!
I really want a platform fighter with air dashes
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Hmm, sin is sol grandkid, not his adoptive son '-'
hey uh could you post a vid on creating a mii for kiryu? at least a showcase
Excellent moveset concept.
The fighting game reps added to smash have proven to be some of the best additions to the series ever, and I think a Hyper Fighter rep like Sol or Ragna would be a straight improvement on even the other FG reps. Sol, I think is better fit than Ragna, due to having seniority, and BlazBlue's increased emphasis on violence, foul language, sex, and general 'edginess' making it a worse fit for smash in comparison to Guilty Gear's more 'fun' tone.
Can you do 2B!!!! She would be perfect for Smash lol
@@primaltrainer1018 Not really a good excuse considering that Bayonetta is in the game
Next Ragna please
Probably off-topic, and this might be my lack of fighting game experience talking, but I always thought BlazBlue and Ragna were ArcSys' flagships.
Blazblue is more or less Guilty Gear's spiritual successor. If Sol couldn't be Arcsys's rep then Ragna would definitely be the next choice for them.
Kirby should have access to a version of Dragon Install and Sol's final smash, just saying
They should get Travis Touchdown in too
This is a great video, Sol is my most wanted fighting game rep...tho i wouldn't bet on the up yours tount...that is way overboard for smash
...uh, I don't know. I would've studied Isuka and Dust Strikers.
imagine getting to go dragon install only to get ko'd by a kick to the mouth
Sin his grandson not adoptive son also he has really good defense options???
Imagine this and Ragna as an echo
@@JuriSins Outside of Life Steal (and maybe Nightmare Edge) everything he has also has a Sol equivalent
Just missing one now
Aiden Pearce from Watch_Dogs next?
can't wait to dustloop in a platform fighter kappa
Great video but no way is Smash gonna let Sol flip the bird as a taunt
Oh, don't worry. That's not his middle finger, that's his index finger. Of course it'd still have to be changed, as Up yours is still not for "Good Boys and Girls".
arc system has ragna too
I can see it
Neutral B - deadspike
Side B - hell's fang/guanlet hades
Up B - inferno divider
Down B - Carnage scissors
Also the game might have to be T rated
@@primaltrainer1018 I mean, Carnage Scissors is a super, so it'd be an ultra-strong move locked behind a command input, but other than that, I agree.
No order sol skin? Bruh
1:10 is that really true?
I mean Sol doesn’t have the worst defensive options. His dp is one of the best in the game.
That statement is more in-line with the way it'd work in the context of Smash Bros as opposed to Guilty Gear.
Sakurai, please :(
Yo, I'm wondering if you would like to help out (as a moveset maker) with a friends project that is a indie platform fighter known as "Indie showdown." (Actually, another friend was supose to ask, but he didn't so, here I am....asking instead.) Anyways, if you are interested in anyways, I will post a discord link to the team server. Anyways, if you did, thanks for reading/considering.
Awwwh im not a MK player but put netherrealm studios MK too
Tekken and Soul Calibur a arena Fighter? What? Its a 3D fighting game...
what
Can we get Quote, Layton or Chell next? Please?
Sol is cool and all but no Baiken no buy
with mai shiranui already thrown out the window, good luck with that lol
I rather Ramlethal or Faust. It would add a lot. Sol isn't that different... but he's a main character so he'll get picked zzz
Imagine Kirby saying Gun Flame when he has the Sol copy..
Yes lol I'm not the only one wanting to hear it too. My precious boy.
GUH FLAEM !!
or "LET IT OOOOOOOOUUUUUT!!!!!"
Kirby install