Jews in Early Italy (The Jewish Encounter with Rome, Pt. V)

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  • @kristinahergott5136
    @kristinahergott5136 Рік тому +3

    I’m not Jewish. Found this video, because I learned that Italy Florence has the oldest Jewish ghetto. I thought a Jewish ghetto was only a World War Two thing. So, I’m trying to learn what happened. Then I found this video. Very interesting! Thanks for uploading!

    • @bmd1675
      @bmd1675 9 місяців тому +2

      It’s actually Venice, not Florence, that had the first ghetto. Still very interesting!

    • @kristinahergott5136
      @kristinahergott5136 9 місяців тому

      @@bmd1675 whoops my mistake. Yes Venice is right 😊👍🏻

  • @minguslingus
    @minguslingus Рік тому +16

    I love your videos Dr Abramson. I’m not Jewish but olive learning about their history which is so rich. I watch as many as I can. Your jokes are the best.

    • @irvinjaffe7688
      @irvinjaffe7688 Рік тому

      L pop

    • @HenryAbramsonPhD
      @HenryAbramsonPhD  Рік тому +1

      Thank you!
      and thank you for being a Public Subscriber!

    • @matthewsainsbury2367
      @matthewsainsbury2367 Рік тому +1

      @@HenryAbramsonPhD chag sameach, happy hanukkah to you henry,unfortunately I've been going through some hard times I had a serious illness but thankfully it wasnt covid,it seems since mask wearing has lifted there things going around,well you may not be a psychologist as you work in more the history department,well feelings of my loss where quite strong since the anniversary came up,thanks for the illustration, of the grave plate of a roman who married a jewish girl probably when the revolt began in 66ce our ad,it shows there wasnt always tension,there was a roman procurator name gessous florus🗡💥he reigned under nero it seems he fan the flame to revolt,I heard a confiscated supplies from the temple,similar to pilate, but man 🙄he seemed to have did acts that fueled the revolt up,by taking wealth from the temple similar to pilate,so alot of termol seem to have been going on with the yehudim and these governors rome appointed ,the gospels tend to portray pilate as more compassionate when dealing with yeshua our jesus but josephus paints him in a different way thanks also for the stunning artwork of the boy with his puppy🐕that was nice you be safe during these times

  • @yanika388usa3
    @yanika388usa3 Рік тому +1

    Thank you so much for giving me more wisdom today. I Love, love the Jewish History and Nation ! Want to learn everything about them. 🔥

  • @roberteichel3091
    @roberteichel3091 Рік тому +2

    Thank you very much Dr Abramson for a very important lecture
    The claims by Shlomo Sandes on the “ Invention of the Jewish people “ do not match history

  • @MegaFount
    @MegaFount Рік тому +4

    Thank you for your erudite lecture. Much enjoyed. It is truly fascinating how Jewish people were adventurous in going to the outer edges of the known world.

  • @Lou_Snuts
    @Lou_Snuts Рік тому +2

    Dr. Abramson,
    I enjoy your series of videos on Italian Jewery.
    It is my understanding that during the period of the Roman Republic and extending into the Imperial period, Judaism was accepted by the Roman's, along with other non-Roman beliefs. I was taught that any religion which pre-dated the founding of Rome was to be respected within the Republic and, later, within the Empire. The best example of such a non-Roman religion would be Rome's ally, Egypt. I intentionally exclude the ancient Greeks because Rome merely adopted the Greek dieties.
    Thus, persecutions of the followers of Christianity, which started much later than the founding of Rome, was not only tolerated (up until Constantine), but encouraged and sanctioned.
    Is my understanding generally correct?

  • @Youssef51
    @Youssef51 Рік тому +1

    Another ace. I read Cicero as a Latin student many, many years ago. Hadn't the faintest idea that there were any references in his speeches to Jews until about 10 minutes ago. Thank you!

    • @HenryAbramsonPhD
      @HenryAbramsonPhD  Рік тому

      I'm glad that the video was interesting to you!
      Thank you for being a Public Subscriber!

  • @karenmarcus8888
    @karenmarcus8888 Рік тому +2

    Thank you once again for an outstanding lecture. I am now just reading another of Hyam Maccoby's books, Revolution in Judea, your lecture today is very relevant.

    • @HenryAbramsonPhD
      @HenryAbramsonPhD  Рік тому +1

      I'm glad that you enjoyed the book as well as the lecture!
      Thank you for being a Member!

  • @mbaleey8561
    @mbaleey8561 Рік тому +1

    Very great lecture, really enjoy your content. Curious, any lectures surrounding Yahia Ben Rabbi (c.1150 - 1222) of Lisbon and his long lineage of the Ibn Yahya family?

  • @rachellewalters8111
    @rachellewalters8111 Рік тому +1

    I never understood why the Jewish people were so untolerated suddenly during the holocaust? This is strange because Jewish people were living alongside European peoples, and particulary among people in Rome, Italy, for hundreds and HUNDREDS of years!?

  • @charlesedwards5333
    @charlesedwards5333 Рік тому +4

    Looking forward to this

  • @bmd1675
    @bmd1675 9 місяців тому

    Thank you so much for all of your work and in putting it out here on youtube.
    Is there any evidence of (or can you or another commenter point me in the direction of a video discussing) what jewish life would be like in Rome / Western Roman Empire following the Bar Kochba revolt? Specifically, Jewish learning?
    What did it mean to “be Jewish” during this time?
    Were there rabbinical studies going on in Rome? How long until the Mishna made it there? How blurry were the lines between Judeans and Romans who were Jewish-influenced?
    Wow. So many questions. Sorry, didn’t realize until I started typing!

  • @mendel6776
    @mendel6776 Рік тому +4

    Liked the Lubavitch joke 🤣

  • @DonaldPretari
    @DonaldPretari Рік тому +4

    Excellent.

  • @jada1015
    @jada1015 Рік тому +1

    You should do a video on jews going to Dominican Republic

  • @Pamsouthdakota
    @Pamsouthdakota Рік тому

    Thanks for the lesson

  • @RobinHerzig
    @RobinHerzig Рік тому +3

    Question, Would these early Roman Jews also be early Ashkenazim and/or Sephardim…? Imagine they would be migrating + spreading out over the centuries, right. Don't know how DNA works, especially over many millennia, but I'm curious

    • @NONEOFYOURBIZ69
      @NONEOFYOURBIZ69 Рік тому

      Read more and you will discern that those terms came into being AFTER. When they left the levant, those terms probably did not exist. Check the wikipage on DNA, quit being intellectually lazy pleas read

    • @Headhunter_212
      @Headhunter_212 Рік тому +1

      @@NONEOFYOURBIZ69 could you have answered this question without all the judgment and condescension? Yes, I think you could have.
      We’re all here to learn, correct?

    • @NONEOFYOURBIZ69
      @NONEOFYOURBIZ69 Рік тому

      @@Headhunter_212 I mean... Too lazy to wiki in regards to DNA? Gotta be spoonfed everything let me tell you know who to.vote for next.... Cmon dude....

    • @RobinHerzig
      @RobinHerzig Рік тому

      @@Headhunter_212 Thanx Dan. I try not to feed the trolls, but sometimes it's irresistible lol 😏

    • @RobinHerzig
      @RobinHerzig Рік тому +1

      @Phanuel Ever heard of Rabbi Barbara from Calabria (by way of Pittsburgh PA)? She gives tours of Jewish history around her parts of Southern Italy… possibly connected to your roots 🙂

  • @isaaczlatkin464
    @isaaczlatkin464 Рік тому +2

    Amazing as usual

  • @uriabinenshtok
    @uriabinenshtok 26 днів тому

    almost said Jewish refugees from a "world war" which would be kinda fitting to describe what they went through

  • @altoM40
    @altoM40 Рік тому

    What were they supposed to do, go according to the Mishnah Berurah?

  • @Rovtful
    @Rovtful Рік тому +1

    Excellent!

    • @HenryAbramsonPhD
      @HenryAbramsonPhD  Рік тому

      Great! I'm glad that you enjoyed the video.
      Thank you for being a Public Subscriber!

  • @darrenglick100
    @darrenglick100 Рік тому +2

    Todah Rabah

  • @Viewer163
    @Viewer163 Рік тому +1

    Danke, sehr interessant.

  • @zafirjoe18
    @zafirjoe18 Рік тому +1

    Thanks Doctor,
    A book that should be made mandatory reading for a student in Jewish history , is the book Contra Apion . Josephus’s polemic in defense of ancient xenophobia to the jews is a must .
    Here a sample;
    40. We have already demonstrated that our laws have been such as have always inspired admiration and imitation into all other men; nay, the earliest Grecian philosophers, though in appearance they observed the laws of their own countries, yet did they, in their actions, and their philosophic doctrines, follow our legislator, and instructed men to live sparingly, and to have friendly communication one with another. Nay, further, the multitude of mankind itself have had a great inclination of a long time to follow our religious observances; for there is not any city of the Grecians, nor any of the barbarians, nor any nation whatsoever, whither our custom of resting on the seventh day hath not come, and by which our fasts and lighting up lamps, and many of our prohibitions as to our food, are not observed; they also endeavor to imitate our mutual concord with one another, and the charitable distribution of our goods, and our diligence in our trades, and our fortitude in undergoing the distresses we are in, on account of our laws; and, what is here matter of the greatest admiration, our law hath no bait of pleasure to allure men to it, but it prevails by its own force; and as God himself pervades all the world, so hath our law passed through all the world also. So that if any one will but reflect on his own country, and his own family, he will have reason to give credit to what I say. It is therefore but just, either to condemn all mankind of indulging a wicked disposition, when they have been so desirous of imitating laws that are to them foreign and evil in themselves, rather than following laws of their own that are of a better character, or else our accusers must leave off their spite against us. Nor are we guilty of any envious behavior towards them, when we honor our own legislator, and believe what he, by his prophetic authority, hath taught us concerning God. For though we should not be able ourselves to understand the excellency of our own laws, yet would the great multitude of those that desire to imitate them, justify us, in greatly valuing ourselves upon them.

  • @futon2345
    @futon2345 Рік тому +2

    I love the Chinese food jokes

  • @toddvoss52
    @toddvoss52 Рік тому +1

    Isn’t this part VIII? I’m any case, I am really enjoying this series and glad it is being resumed

    • @VillageTorah
      @VillageTorah Рік тому

      I came here to ask this question also....

  • @shariffkhan4980
    @shariffkhan4980 Рік тому

    Henry bro..Brilliant video..Absolutely marvelous✅.. 🕋👍🙏🙏

  • @louisewatson6211
    @louisewatson6211 Рік тому

    There is no other personal option for me. I'm fortunate to have my Jewish heritage and ethnicity. Jewish in fact of authority in the UNIVERSE SOLELY BELONGS to the Jewish community......

  • @MottiShneor
    @MottiShneor Рік тому

    Thank you for a Really good lecture. Wish you could teach history in Israel.

  • @maxsmart99
    @maxsmart99 Рік тому +2

    ❤️

  • @dmsalomon
    @dmsalomon Рік тому

    Isn't it part VIII?

  • @beng2729
    @beng2729 Рік тому

    Professor Abramson. Did Jewish people migrate to Italy as freeman after the fall of Jerusalem. Or did they only come as slaves.

    • @NONEOFYOURBIZ69
      @NONEOFYOURBIZ69 Рік тому

      Roman custom was to enslave conquered people so many were probably slaves except probably the priestly class, Rome needed them to control the rest (I assume). Rome loved having clients.

    • @airpaintpellet
      @airpaintpellet Рік тому +2

      Mix. Different jewish migrations to Italy. From slaves taken by Rome, merchants, and rabbinic scholars.

    • @beng2729
      @beng2729 Рік тому +1

      @J Lau
      Of course, they were slaves . Very well documented. Educate yourself.

    • @NONEOFYOURBIZ69
      @NONEOFYOURBIZ69 Рік тому

      @@jlau979 Rome enslaved the people they conquered, that is common knowledge therefore I would surmise that only the upper rabbis were shipped off to Rome as useful people, the rest, enslaved and shipped off to where they were needed. Circa 70ad, Iberia was the place to ship them to since they wanted to remove all Jews from Judea so the further from, the better. Maybe archaic DNA from Iberia can shed light in this, I find it interesting that we can now reconstruct history based on DNA evidence instead of circular reasoning texts which are in large part filled with propaganda.

    • @beng2729
      @beng2729 Рік тому

      @@NONEOFYOURBIZ69
      Of whom do you speak.

  • @karlschreiber9286
    @karlschreiber9286 Рік тому

    Very intelligent conclusions Prof. Abraham. I don't think that Constantin (a very cruel emporor) really convertded self to christianity. I believe perhaps no great difference in to first century between "christian" jews (poorer cominuties?) and " judaistic" jews. Don't joke about the chabad movement, perhaps in this century the last jews believing in Hashem. Hast b Shalom. Greetings from Germany no 5 % ? believing in good traditions or in god except our muslem communities. 🤔

  • @AaronMiller-rh7rj
    @AaronMiller-rh7rj Рік тому

    (thanks!)

  • @charlesedwards5333
    @charlesedwards5333 Рік тому

    Chabad !

  • @irvinjaffe7688
    @irvinjaffe7688 Рік тому

    Loo a

  • @irvinjaffe7688
    @irvinjaffe7688 Рік тому

    Aqqa

  • @irvinjaffe7688
    @irvinjaffe7688 Рік тому

    A⁰

  • @ginaw.2532
    @ginaw.2532 Рік тому

    The history of the lost tribes of Israel is so very important and the more we learn the more we can understand. I was lead to this article about the Beth Elohim Synagogue located in Charleston, South Carolina and was overwhelmed with the history of the Jews in South. I thought you might like to take a look at the history cataloged in the archives of South Carolina. www.carolana.com/SC/Revolution/The_Jews_of_South_Carolina_B_A_Elzas_1905.pdf

    • @NuNugirl
      @NuNugirl Рік тому +1

      I learned about my Mom’s Southern family, when she casually told me her deceased twin brother went to the University of Alabama. I found it very odd that he didn’t stay in NY, until she explained why. When they were children, Summer vacations were spent away from NYC, on a farm in Upstate NY. Her favorite Cousins from North Carolina, would come join them and they would visit them as well. Her Father’s family was originally from Manchester. They were sponsored to come to America by the Southern branch of the family, but chose to stay in NYC. Thank you so much, for contributing the valuable information about Jews in America. On my Father’s side, I have family in Colorado and Texas. They were the Western Jews ( They are now Mormons)That story would make another good book.

  • @thad9968
    @thad9968 Рік тому

    This was too good! Increase your engagement easily --> 'promosm'.

  • @yanika388usa3
    @yanika388usa3 Рік тому

    Thank you so much for giving me more wisdom today. I Love, love the Jewish History and Nation ! Want to learn everything about them. 🔥