Jesus second coming guaranteed never to happen. Every time Christians have predicted it. 100per cent failure rate Christians are all mouth and no action. Scoffers they call people that say it won't happen and the scoffers have been proven right. If Jesus had returned l certainly wouldn't deny it but it simply doesn't happen. Scoff scoff scoff.
Thank you so much for coming out, I was licensed at 6 yrs of age in the Southern Baptist Convention, and it took 58 years to finally be free of it. Again, thank you.
Us evil worldly people as some Christians call non religious people, hiding behind their curtains and blinds oh my god all those evil worldly people out there l will stay indoors safe from them. The majority of these evil worldly people are actually good, some are bad but most people are just people going about causing nobody any harm. It sad and amusing the ideas religious people have about these "worldly people" l would love to read their minds it would be amazing to see what goes on in their minds.
“I didn’t lose my faith, I discarded it.” Yup. I didn’t lose mine; I remember exactly where I left it. And why. (I was not a clergyman, but I was a vp of a bible college.)
@stephenrichie4646 ““I didn’t lose my faith, I discarded it [...] a vp of a bible college.)” ======≈=========== I too did not lose my faith. I got rid of it.
If you listen to or watch The Atheist Experience, Matt says this happens more often than you think. Many preachers become atheists or agnostics but are afraid to "come out" so to speak, in fear of disappointing their family, friends, and congregation. And it means actually losing a pretty good job. The Atheist Experience says they get calls from preachers all the time that want to remain anonymous and don't want to have their calls online. P.S. I've been an atheist for nearly 30 years and in my teens I was a Christian. Everyone just assumes you left the church because you had a bad experience. But, like he said, my experience too with the church was pretty much a good experience. However, I have lost most of those old friends in the church.
That's something I have always wondered about, how often do you go to church and the pastor who is preaching to you doesn't believe a word they are saying. I think about this because I have heard many stories from people who attended seminary schools including Bart Erhman, and they say they learned how the Bible was put together and most of the books we assume are written by who think are actually forgeries written by unknown authors, this was even Erhman says lead him to being an atheist.
I was once a minister with the Church of Christ, myself. It was studying the bible, theology and religion that slowly turned me into an atheist, beginning as a "liberal Christian", eventually 'evolving' into an anti-religion atheist. It was in my liberal/progressive Christian phase that I was 'pushed' out of the ministry by having first my Sunday school classes taken from me, then all preaching opportunities denied, and finally an informal "shunning", of sorts. I stopped attending right around the time I began to identify as an atheist.
@kennethcook8857 I was once a minister with the Church of Christ [...] I began to identify as an atheist. ==================== I hope that you are safe, and are doing well now in Sep 2023.
I only wish that something like this was in operation in 1992. I was a fully ordained Reverend Professor in Australia. If there were, I would have joined up.
A priest, a minister, and a rabbit walk into a bar. The bartender asked the rabbit what he's doing there and the rabbit says, "I don't know; I think I'm a typo."
I remember feeling the same way about why God wouldn't want us to eat fruit from a tree of knowledge. I now believe that it is disclaimer for the Bible. The tree of knowledge of Good and Evil to me represents moral absolutes/religion/black & white thinking. Until Adam and Eve ate it's fruit, they were happily naked/unclothed. Metaphorically it makes sense that they became afraid of their own nakedness if they began to think the way we are also taught in religion. Religion teaches us to be ashamed and cover ourselves up. While it's ironic that such a story exists in the Bible, part of me hopes it was intentional. That perhaps the person/people who wrote the story of Adam and Eve meant to put such a disclaimer at the very beginning of a book of errors.
It's good to see more and more people coming to reason at this rate we will have a more common sense confident world and it's about time his song sounds a bit like what the boss would do
Daniel is brilliant! Mandatory comparative religion classes will let kids decide for themselves. Critical thinking and logic classes should also be mandatory. “Teach am a man to think…”
I wasn't a pastor but I did lose so-called friends when I came out. I wish I saw this video ahead of time so my coming out wouldn't have been so painful. Anyway it feels great to be free! (It sounds like Carter went to a much nicer church than I did.)
@kathleenc8810 “I wasn't a pastor but I did [...] to a much nicer church than I did.)” =================== I was not a trained Hindu priest either, but I had studied enough of the Hindu scriptures well enough to be able to conduct relatively small Hindu religious ‘prayer sessions’ and ‘less important’, informal Hindu worship ceremonies for friends and acquiantances on occasions when the formal presence of a priest was not required-and for several decades, I did so. I believed in the divinity of Jesus too, as I considered him to be an incarnation of god, along with the multiple incarnations of god in the Hindu belief system. Around late-2013 to early-2014, I started having intense doubts about the validity of my theistic beliefs... and since that time, I have been a pretty firm agnostic atheist. I no longer believe that ANY ‘supernatural’ entity and/or ANY supernatural phenomenon exists. While I am angry at being misled for several decades by people who did mislead me, I am much happier to have jettisoned each and every one of my beliefs in any thing ‘supernatural’. I wish I had come across Matthew Dillahunty's videos on ‘The Atheist Experience’ much earlier than I actually did in early 2014.
It was a few years ago, we sat in our loungers on the beach in Pattaya Thailand, next to us a short, fat man without a neck who spoke a strange English, with him young men, who swarmed around him like moths the light. He drank a lot of beer and paid for food and drinks for the boys. That was on a Saturday, the next day he was sitting in the same place again and after a few beers he started talking to us ... He said he came from Germany from Lower Bavaria and was responsible for several parishes there as a catholic priest, we asked him how it worked as a gay man, to which he replied, I've been an atheist for many years, how many of my fellow students ... but since I have not learned anything else, I am fulfilling my role as an actor for the Vatican, every year i fly here what else should i do We doubted his story and then found out from the grandma who gave the loungers that everything was right. He has been here for 15 years, we all know that he is a catholic priest, he is generous and the boys love him very much, because he is in the evening mostly very drunk and doesn't ask any more sexual services from the boys ..
I am a nonbeliever I would love to believe in a God life is quite painful however I can’t live in the pretend world I Do that with addiction 52 and life is horrible
I don't think for most Christians that anything good comes out of them. It's mostly bad things that come out their mouth about other people but there is a small minority that are good but rare. A few good ones but mostly bad.
I grew up in a non-Christian environment and was an atheist for most of my life, at least in my thinking. In my youth, it became apparent that I was quite mathematically gifted. I was able to completely solve exams in the advanced course (in the years 1976 to 1978) that lasted 270 minutes (from 7:45 to 13:30) within 35 to 45 minutes. Not sometimes, but every time. This course was the one with the highest level, the teacher later told us when he retired (2005) that he had to lower the level of difficulty for this course every year. And today the exams of a selection course last a maximum of 150 minutes, many of the topics we covered no longer appear at all. Hardly anyone today would be able to solve an exam like the one I used to write regularly. I can't remember ever having practiced, nor did I do any homework, etc. It just fell to me. It just came to me. So-called higher math was child's play for me and I thought that if you had the right method, you could teach it to 4-year-old children. I was so successful that one day my older sister severely cursed me out of envy, but I didn't take it seriously. Although I sensed that she was appealing to a higher power and I was clearly aware of this at that moment, I thought to myself that this kind of thing doesn't work and I immediately forgot about the whole incident. Until 45 years later (I had become a believer in the meantime), I prayed for reconciliation with my sister (neither of us knew why we had disagreements in the first place). The day after, Christ showed me this scene (of the curse) and told me that he didn't believe I wanted reconciliation at all. The curse had been very damaging to my professional and personal life, especially in terms of career, marriage and family, because it was against both areas of life. Such was my sister's hatred and envy of me. I can't go into any more detail because it would be too long. But in relation to the video: I spent most of my time dealing with the philosophical questions mentioned in the video, especially the question of whether our world view is real or just a subjective idea created by the brain, and the literature mentioned in the video. And I was unable to resolve these questions conclusively. However, I came to the conclusion that the claimed evidence for materialism and evolution is invalid. However, the fact that the "evidence" for materialism, evolution, etc. is invalid does not prove that materialism, evolution, etc. are untrue. So that I was at a stalemate regarding these issues. I'm telling all this, not to show off, but to address people like Dawkins who implicitly claim all Christians are stupid. And I don't think a Dawkins is any kind of significant researcher. People like Dawkins etc. are very proud and I consider them to be self-centered, not interested in the truth but in themselves and ultimately also in some ways stupid and intellectually dishonest. I have been dealing with these questions for decades and did not make the decision easy for myself. In other words, I couldn't decide at all because I lacked the knowledge. Ultimately, I would never have come to believe if the truth had not been revealed to me. I was surprised by the reference because it was biblical. Materialists reject something they don't even know. The problem most commenters have here is looking at organized religion (churches) and the characteristics of Christians. And what they see there in terms of corruption and flaws determines their judgment. But that is how they are wrong about the real question.
As a new atheist I can truly say that I am happier and feel more free then when I was a christian
I'm so happy for you.
Jesus second coming guaranteed never to happen. Every time Christians have predicted it. 100per cent failure rate Christians are all mouth and no action. Scoffers they call people that say it won't happen and the scoffers have been proven right. If Jesus had returned l certainly wouldn't deny it but it simply doesn't happen. Scoff scoff scoff.
What led you to leave Christianity?
Thank you so much for coming out, I was licensed at 6 yrs of age in the Southern Baptist Convention, and it took 58 years to finally be free of it. Again, thank you.
I started coming out of the SBC when I was in my early 40s. Congratulations!
Us evil worldly people as some Christians call non religious people, hiding behind their curtains and blinds oh my god all those evil worldly people out there l will stay indoors safe from them. The majority of these evil worldly people are actually good, some are bad but most people are just people going about causing nobody any harm. It sad and amusing the ideas religious people have about these "worldly people" l would love to read their minds it would be amazing to see what goes on in their minds.
Greets and welcome, Carter! We're glad you joined us!
I feel free. After years of guilt for no reason, and free from religion.
Happier than ever.
LOVE THIS, Carter! I'll say it again: It's great to have you standing with us in the light!
"I'm yearning and I'm learning". So many roads to travel now, it's truly freedom.
What a great coming out to freedom and reality ! BRAVO ! The new Adam !
“I didn’t lose my faith, I discarded it.” Yup. I didn’t lose mine; I remember exactly where I left it. And why. (I was not a clergyman, but I was a vp of a bible college.)
@stephenrichie4646
““I didn’t lose my faith, I discarded it [...] a vp of a bible college.)”
======≈===========
I too did not lose my faith.
I got rid of it.
If you listen to or watch The Atheist Experience, Matt says this happens more often than you think. Many preachers become atheists or agnostics but are afraid to "come out" so to speak, in fear of disappointing their family, friends, and congregation. And it means actually losing a pretty good job. The Atheist Experience says they get calls from preachers all the time that want to remain anonymous and don't want to have their calls online.
P.S. I've been an atheist for nearly 30 years and in my teens I was a Christian. Everyone just assumes you left the church because you had a bad experience. But, like he said, my experience too with the church was pretty much a good experience. However, I have lost most of those old friends in the church.
At 63, I have just begun to come out to family and friends. It's a slow process because I am not ready to lose some people.
That's something I have always wondered about, how often do you go to church and the pastor who is preaching to you doesn't believe a word they are saying. I think about this because I have heard many stories from people who attended seminary schools including Bart Erhman, and they say they learned how the Bible was put together and most of the books we assume are written by who think are actually forgeries written by unknown authors, this was even Erhman says lead him to being an atheist.
I was once a minister with the Church of Christ, myself. It was studying the bible, theology and religion that slowly turned me into an atheist, beginning as a "liberal Christian", eventually 'evolving' into an anti-religion atheist. It was in my liberal/progressive Christian phase that I was 'pushed' out of the ministry by having first my Sunday school classes taken from me, then all preaching opportunities denied, and finally an informal "shunning", of sorts. I stopped attending right around the time I began to identify as an atheist.
@kennethcook8857
I was once a minister with the Church of Christ [...] I began to identify as an atheist.
====================
I hope that you are safe, and are doing well now in Sep 2023.
You know, I think that would be an excellent song for atheist gatherings that seek to have the same community feel of church.
Thanks for the video and the bravery of those who chose to become freethinkers!
welcome to the world. Adam
I only wish that something like this was in operation in 1992. I was a fully ordained Reverend Professor in Australia. If there were, I would have joined up.
A priest, a minister, and a rabbit walk into a bar. The bartender asked the rabbit what he's doing there and the rabbit says, "I don't know; I think I'm a typo."
🤣🤣🤣
I'm a born again Atheist.
Exactly. I didn't believe the horseshit when I was born. I don't believe it now.
Congratulations! Welcome to the fold.
The underlying theme here is Honestly. In general I believe Atheists are Honest people, and Christians are not.
He sure talks like a pastor (at least like my old one). Bravo sir!
I remember feeling the same way about why God wouldn't want us to eat fruit from a tree of knowledge. I now believe that it is disclaimer for the Bible. The tree of knowledge of Good and Evil to me represents moral absolutes/religion/black & white thinking. Until Adam and Eve ate it's fruit, they were happily naked/unclothed. Metaphorically it makes sense that they became afraid of their own nakedness if they began to think the way we are also taught in religion. Religion teaches us to be ashamed and cover ourselves up. While it's ironic that such a story exists in the Bible, part of me hopes it was intentional. That perhaps the person/people who wrote the story of Adam and Eve meant to put such a disclaimer at the very beginning of a book of errors.
Very well put!
It's good to see more and more people coming to reason at this rate we will have a more common sense confident world and it's about time his song sounds a bit like what the boss would do
I was baptized an atheist
I hear pastafarians get dunked in spaghetti sauce.
I don’t understand what you mean!
It was a great convention! "Adam" was a highlight of the weekend.
Daniel is brilliant! Mandatory comparative religion classes will let kids decide for themselves.
Critical thinking and logic classes should also be mandatory. “Teach am a man to think…”
Wow what an amazing song!
"We live to be honest". From a physician in the audience. Great. #SarayuthPost 22.09.2021 2020 hrs in Bangkok.
I wasn't a pastor but I did lose so-called friends when I came out. I wish I saw this video ahead of time so my coming out wouldn't have been so painful. Anyway it feels great to be free! (It sounds like Carter went to a much nicer church than I did.)
@kathleenc8810
“I wasn't a pastor but I did [...] to a much nicer church than I did.)”
===================
I was not a trained Hindu priest either, but I had studied enough of the Hindu scriptures well enough to be able to conduct relatively small Hindu religious ‘prayer sessions’ and ‘less important’, informal Hindu worship ceremonies for friends and acquiantances on occasions when the formal presence of a priest was not required-and for several decades, I did so.
I believed in the divinity of Jesus too, as I considered him to be an incarnation of god, along with the multiple incarnations of god in the Hindu belief system.
Around late-2013 to early-2014, I started having intense doubts about the validity of my theistic beliefs...
and since that time, I have been a pretty firm agnostic atheist.
I no longer believe that ANY ‘supernatural’ entity and/or ANY supernatural phenomenon exists.
While I am angry at being misled for several decades by people who did mislead me,
I am much happier to have jettisoned each and every one of my beliefs in any thing ‘supernatural’.
I wish I had come across Matthew Dillahunty's videos on ‘The Atheist Experience’ much earlier than I actually did in early 2014.
I love his songs !
T-rex's have short arms and would be great at playing the piano.
Yay for the pastor.
Oh, gosh, with that great voice he has maybe I should rethink my non-belief in god. Incredible. Nice song too.
Inspirational stuff!
It was a few years ago, we sat in our loungers on the beach in Pattaya Thailand, next to us a short, fat man without a neck who spoke a strange English, with him young men, who swarmed around him like moths the light. He drank a lot of beer and paid for food and drinks for the boys.
That was on a Saturday, the next day he was sitting in the same place again and after a few beers he started talking to us ...
He said he came from Germany from Lower Bavaria and was responsible for several parishes there as a catholic priest, we asked him how it worked as a gay man, to which he replied, I've been an atheist for many years, how many of my fellow students ...
but since I have not learned anything else, I am fulfilling my role as an actor for the Vatican,
every year i fly here
what else should i do
We doubted his story and then found out from the grandma who gave the loungers that everything was right. He has been here for 15 years, we all know that he is a catholic priest, he is generous and the boys love him very much, because he is in the evening mostly very drunk and doesn't ask any more sexual services from the boys ..
I am a nonbeliever I would love to believe in a God life is quite painful however I can’t live in the pretend world I Do that with addiction 52 and life is horrible
*God is the clay & humanity the sculptor.*
More like, _"made in our image"._
I don't think for most Christians that anything good comes out of them. It's mostly bad things that come out their mouth about other people but there is a small minority that are good but rare. A few good ones but mostly bad.
Watched 17
Other atheists won't stand with you if they don't agree with your politics.
I grew up in a non-Christian environment and was an atheist for most of my life, at least in my thinking. In my youth, it became apparent that I was quite mathematically gifted. I was able to completely solve exams in the advanced course (in the years 1976 to 1978) that lasted 270 minutes (from 7:45 to 13:30) within 35 to 45 minutes. Not sometimes, but every time. This course was the one with the highest level, the teacher later told us when he retired (2005) that he had to lower the level of difficulty for this course every year. And today the exams of a selection course last a maximum of 150 minutes, many of the topics we covered no longer appear at all. Hardly anyone today would be able to solve an exam like the one I used to write regularly.
I can't remember ever having practiced, nor did I do any homework, etc. It just fell to me. It just came to me. So-called higher math was child's play for me and I thought that if you had the right method, you could teach it to 4-year-old children.
I was so successful that one day my older sister severely cursed me out of envy, but I didn't take it seriously. Although I sensed that she was appealing to a higher power and I was clearly aware of this at that moment, I thought to myself that this kind of thing doesn't work and I immediately forgot about the whole incident.
Until 45 years later (I had become a believer in the meantime), I prayed for reconciliation with my sister (neither of us knew why we had disagreements in the first place). The day after, Christ showed me this scene (of the curse) and told me that he didn't believe I wanted reconciliation at all.
The curse had been very damaging to my professional and personal life, especially in terms of career, marriage and family, because it was against both areas of life. Such was my sister's hatred and envy of me.
I can't go into any more detail because it would be too long.
But in relation to the video: I spent most of my time dealing with the philosophical questions mentioned in the video, especially the question of whether our world view is real or just a subjective idea created by the brain, and the literature mentioned in the video. And I was unable to resolve these questions conclusively. However, I came to the conclusion that the claimed evidence for materialism and evolution is invalid. However, the fact that the "evidence" for materialism, evolution, etc. is invalid does not prove that materialism, evolution, etc. are untrue. So that I was at a stalemate regarding these issues.
I'm telling all this, not to show off, but to address people like Dawkins who implicitly claim all Christians are stupid. And I don't think a Dawkins is any kind of significant researcher.
People like Dawkins etc. are very proud and I consider them to be self-centered, not interested in the truth but in themselves and ultimately also in some ways stupid and intellectually dishonest.
I have been dealing with these questions for decades and did not make the decision easy for myself. In other words, I couldn't decide at all because I lacked the knowledge.
Ultimately, I would never have come to believe if the truth had not been revealed to me. I was surprised by the reference because it was biblical.
Materialists reject something they don't even know.
The problem most commenters have here is looking at organized religion (churches) and the characteristics of Christians. And what they see there in terms of corruption and flaws determines their judgment. But that is how they are wrong about the real question.