Fencing with Sword & Buckler - Common Mistakes
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Fencing with Sword & Buckler - Common Mistakes
Sala de Armas El Batallador (Zaragoza, Spain)
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I just started learning 1.33 sword and buckler in my club. Very taxing both mentally and physically, but lots of fun, and much of what they teach is very close to your own lessons.
Big thumbs up.
For that deleted (by anonymous user) comment, here is my answer:
"-the answer to our opponent attacking on the buckler side is stichschlag, you block his strike and thrust at his face at the same time"
This is a fine solution as a general answer. it is so basic that your opponent already know the answer, and has an answer for it. Things are not that simple in practice. But the first mistake is about a mistake, not about a proper defense. Going up with both weapons is a mistake, in most cases.
"- the solution to our opponen thrusting below is not blocking it with the buckler (even with your proposed variation you loose contact several times) but überlauffen and correct posture wiktenauer.com/images/3/33/MS_I.33_20r.jpg"
Only when you have the time and you are in Indes, not when you are in Nach or your opponent is too fast. In the video's context, as it is showed, if you act in Indes, you can defend with your sword as you said, but when you are too late, it is not possible, it is too close.
"-nr three looks like a perfect situation to apply krucke and stich - if he he is so close this will not works his weapon hand is in range for schiltschlac"
Only when you are close enough. It is almost the same thing when you use cover with buckler from a longer distance as in the video.
"-keeping buckler and sword united while the blades a bound seems superfluous, the problem shown actually is that there is no real bind and you can simply fall off his blade while it is pointed at your face without any problem, if you have the time to take his blade on your buckler he will have the time to close the gap."
Absolutely not superfluous, when you add both arms and hand strength to the bind so even bound at the opponent's strong you have control of his blade. It is basic teaching in i.33 sword and buckler fencing. The time is gained with a side step and maintaining the distance while your opponent is advancing, so no, your opponent will not have the time to close the gap if you make it right. It is a really basic an important technique not only with sword and buckler, but with a lot of dual weapons. Lead your left side, prepare your right weapon. This is a situation where your opponent, again is in Vor and you react too late so the opponent's point is almost there hitting you.
"-the Buckler is clearly shown flat on our arm quite often eg in I33 this makes perfect sense if the buckler has a spike all that slippy sliding will only happen on a buckler without a spike. On a buckler with a spike you can strike at the buckler, your blade will get caught by the spike, your enemy will start pushing keeping your blade trapped in the V between rim and spike and proceed to kill you. This is also why striking at the buckler side is asking for trouble."
i.33 does show clearly absolutely nothing. Drawings are really limited and flat. So assuming a flat drawing is trying to tell you it is a flat possition is bad interpretation. Spike is not enough, the opponent still has the angle to go to your arm. This is the same with dagger, while a buckler can work as a pasive defense, not the dagger. The spike acts just like a small dagger, nothing more nothing less. A flat buckler is just a bad biomechanic and a bad geometry application for a buckler, in most situations.
So, we agree in some points (but with different context as I said), and we disagree in others. That is fine.
Is there any real reason to ever raise the buckler in the first place?
Good thumbnail! That sums up the theory well
Extremely informative video about S&B. I've found most S&B practices to be very messy and very few seem to have a good grasp on S&B. This really brought up the most important things. I really like the transfers from sword to buckler. I've seen it done lots in rapier+dagger but not before with S&B. Thanks for the video.
I haven't practiced sword g buckler much recently, but did so a fair amount around 2002. I had no club or even many sparring partners back then...still mostly don't now lol
But the techniques & ideas you express here are much closer to my thinking back then than many S&B interpretations I've seen recently. Glad to know my early guesswork/interpretations were not as far off as I was beginning to think
Thanks for your video. ;)
thank you for the video!
This maes much more sense than jusing bucklers to protect the sword-hand. If that was the purpose then a basket-hilted complex guard woudv made more sense. Its a tool for redirecting attacks, the bucker together with the sword-arm all the time dossent seem to work in sparring either. Adrenaline make fine motor-skills lessen.
Using bucklers like in this video is much more like the of-hand in police-baton or bare-handed fighting-methods
@@pettergustafsson8879 Thnaks for your comments!!! The buckler for us is more like an "armed hand" for deflecting and keeping the opponents sword away than a shield .
Petter Gustafsson the full potential of the buckler is even higher... If you understand that the buckler was the predecessor of brass knuckles, it will be easy to realize that the buckler wasn’t a defensive weapon by any means.
The video goes into the right direction which I really appreciate. Cheers o/
+DarkFury Very informative man
May I ask about the background music, I know the song, but I would like to know a the arrangement has come from?
Ensemble Belladonna "Melodious Melancholye"
Is the saw blade to simulate having a sharp blade?
I believe it's to simulate the edge-on-edge bind.
Thats what I thought too. Probably.
Excuse me, can you tell me the name of this music in the video? It's so good to me.
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Thank you sir.
Is that a Minecraft sword?
where can I buy a synthetic flamberge sparring sword like that? what the brand and company that does that?
It is a "Sharp Simulator" edge made by Blackfencer. Here you can purchase them: www.blackfencer.com. Almost every product has an option of "Sharp Simulator" where the edge is made with the teeth you see in this video, so edges stick together like real sharp swords do.
@@DarkFury plus the safeness, an ingenious piece :o thanks man, a lot
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth. - Mike Tyson
you think that something works. you train and train, but its not as cut and dry as "when they do this you do this". hopefully one day people wake up to this reality. y'all have a good day.
can't read this horrible thin text in bright colors