Super Formula can't be that slow, Indycar can't be that fast and Formula E can't be that fast.
It's because they chose Monza for some dumb reason, where only horsepower matters
Its because the F1 car is the 2023 of ferrari....even a shoppingcast would look fast against it
Not really that’s actually a pretty good representation considering the track and the strengths/weaknesses of each car.
@@SHiFTyTReATS I disagree. There’s no chance for Formula E to catch up with Super Formula with heavier weight, lower downforce, lower power and not even using slick tires.
I think if the F-E car have slicks with more grip can go better
In the real world it would have gone: F1, super formula, Indy, and then FE.
Yes. SF is about the same speed as F1 in slow and medium corners. In fast corners it is faster than Indy and FE. SF cars have very high downforce, and rail the corners.
I’m surprised how well the FE car caught up, even if it stayed in last it wasn’t too far behind
It was also limited by the "wet" tires they run. I'd like to see a sim at Monaco, all with the same tire compound.
@@frankhage1734 yeah even at this point with such a fast car they refuse to run on slicks because they insist on using only one all-weather compound for all races
Surprised because the sim is not accurate. SF cars are wickedly fast in the corners. They are about as fast as F1 in slow and medium corners. On fast corners, they lose some speed vs F1, but are still way way faster than Indy or FE. In the real world, SF would drop the Indy Car and FE in the turns.
Had higher hopes for super formula... Indy still manages to impress. Colton got off to an impressive start.
This is like the only track on the F1 calendar where SF doesn't beat Indy...the track selection made a huge disservice to it. Indy has horsepower, but SF is way superior on downforce and mechanical grip
@@blakefitz5382 Indy is slow on road and street courses period...but it comes with the advantage of better racing cause of less dirty air generated by downforce
It's optimized for oval racing and power as it should be
Graphics are really impressive.
IndyCar would be an awesome sight at Monza
I feel like this sim overestimates the grip of the FE tyres. They're hard and durable as fuck. Also, I assume the IndyCar is in some special low drag spec, as otherwise the lighter Super Formula car should be quicker.
And SF has more downforce than Indy and quicker on turns. Indy engines are have low rpm regimen. SF doesn't loose to much to F1 on turns, only on straights because it only have 4 cylinder engines.
Damn it!! I was so excited to see this. Thought it was real.
Both Leclerc and Herta are yet to finish this season lol
Nice! Graphics and Ppf config?
Actually the super formula is the fastest category after formula 1, the super formula are maximum 5-10 seconds slower on average (in 2019 in Suzuka they would have beaten some formula 1 cars), the formula 2 are 10-15 seconds slower than a formula 1, the Indy cars are 14 seconds slower (in COTA) the categories would be like this:
Formula 1
Super formula
Formula 2
IndyCar
Super gt Gt500
Hypercars (wec/imsa)
In no way would a Super Formula car beat any of the F1 cars in 2019. The slowest car in Q1 was the Williams with a 1:30.364. Only around 6 seconds faster than pole in Super Formula.
@@ryryrichard5988 my mistake, actually I was referring to 2015 when the super formula pole was 1:37 while the last formula 1 was 1:38
Don't worry that will change when indy starts incorporating the new hybrid engines and they replace these outdated low downforce chassis.
Indy cars for circuits need more than 1000 CV and high downforce and that is what they will have around 2026. Today they are very limited in every way and that is why minor categories such as super formula and F2 are a little faster. You have to take into account the great weight of these single-seaters for safety, that limits them a lot in addition to the low power they currently have.
Yeah - but in any F1 race the winner always beats the last F1 car to the flag by a MUCH longer distance than the F1 beat the all-electric Formula E in this race. And guess what - it also depends on how brilliant or not the drivers are !!
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you compare one lap vs an entire race. for example: 2 sec per lap slower means you're getting lapped in a whole race.
You are this dumb? A whole race means 65 laps, this comparison is ONLY ONE *1* LAP. You can't be serious.
super formula sounds the best tho
In just my opinion, I prefer to compare Super Formula and Formula2
because of their predecessors.
Formula2 was GP2, GP2 was International F3000
Super Formula was Formula Nippon, Formula Nippon was All Japan F3000
Machine classes are different, so maybe not good comparing with Super Formula
which simulator is it?
the formula e car did pretty well considering its on streets tyres while the others are on track tyres and its electric so it does not have the top speed of the other cars
@@ihateeveryoneofyou which is the slowest of the grid and acceleration over 160 mph is not good
@@OscarZheng50 its fairly comparable to F2, no? Unless i'm mixing up the F3 and F2 top speeds doesnt F2 cap out at around 205mph max?
@@OscarZheng50 honestly I'd want to see these cars on a more technical circuit to see which does better
@@ihateeveryoneofyou yeah but f2 isnt there, its against super formula and indycar. super formula top speed is 223 mph and indycar's is 236
whats the graphics mod for this?
I really wonder what a Formula E car could do with slicks on, A lot of cornering speed comes from slicks and as we all know FE is just on road tyres.
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me sorprendio que no le sacaron tanta ventaja al formula E
@@Steven-re3id el formula 1 es apenas unos 20km mas rapido que el formula E y de hecho el auto de Indy Car tiene aun mas velocidad de la formula 1 , pero la aerodinamica ayudara a que el formula 1 siempre gane ya que puede dar vueltas a mucha mas velocidad que los otros por la carga aerodinamica
@@Duvalinouh el formula e solo alcanza 280 kmh y el Formula 1 350 kmh (en 2022) el Indy solo es más rápido porque corre en óvalos mientras que el Formula 1 lo hace en circuitos si pones a un Formula 1 en óvalo fácilmente ganaría porque tienen +1000hp, drs y mejores llantas
Imagínate un FE tiene solo 469 hp frente a un F1 q tiene 1000 hp
Los FE están progresando muy rápido felizmente
Wait can’t be real, the Ferrari didn’t blow up!
What about Indycar with SuperSpeedway Aero kit?
It's mind-blowing that nowadays a FE can match the pace of the Super Formula
@@mariop8101 bet it could. FE races at Portland this year. Will be interesting to see how it stacks up vs IndyCar which also races there
@@sambull4633 They wont let you compare, they will change the track layout as an excuse.
@@ariefghani2380 You are deceived by narrow tracks and side cameras, giving a false speed feeling. But they're really slow even compared to a F3 car, just watch it in Goodwood compared to other cars times.
Indy dos anos 90 deixa todos esses ai na poeira
Why does the F1 DRS open when it is in front? Isn't it supposed to be within 1 sec behind for it to work? Haven't watched F1 for a bit though so maybe it changed.
I guess that it's possible due the qualifying settings is possible to enable DRS
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Kinda easy to guess
gen 3 vs f2 pls
That's why I always state Italian cars are proud for their speed
Literally a Redbull in Ferrari livery lol
What game is this?
Fun Fact: Jack Brabhams pole lap around Monaco in 1967 is faster then Saccha Fenestraz’s fastest lap around Monaco in Formula e last year
Quero ver no circuito oval!! Texas Motor Speedway ninguém segura Indy
F1 doesn't race ovals, so they don't have an oval spec, but Indy races street and permanent race tracks, just like F1. So clearly Indy can win on a track type that F1 doesn't race, but the comparison doesn't make that much sence.
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I think Indy did really really good considering the engine is spec and no electric motor i believe. F1 of course would be top dog
Of course power steering Superior down force and so much more. Indycar is a spec series where every car is the same basically. F1 is a R and D series where they're always developing new and state of the art parts. Indycar is better racing hands down imo tho.
You know this isn't real right? An indycar race car is 7-15 seconds a lap slower than an F1 car on a road course.
@@chumleyk That will start to change from 2024 when indy incorporates its ERS. The initial power will be 850 CV that will later increase until it exceeds 1000 CV.
Y la ferrari 2023 una hermosura y lo bien que anda
What simulator is this?
I am pretty sure the SF car is more comparable to the IndyCar. In many ways more modern as Indy has let the chassis stagnate a bit. The Gen3 FE car, aren't those just new aero packages over the previous gen skateboards? Lastly, I would label myself an IRL fan first for the quality of the racing, but I do not believe an IRL car would lead an F1 car for that long on anything other than an oval.
FE has more power than last gen and a little less weaight, but has less grip due to the tyres. Top speed is about 200mph but cornering speed is worse than Gen 2.
If it was a more typical track FE is probably quite far behind. If it had slick tyres FE probably somewhere in between F3 and F2 speed wise. With their current tyres it's probably around F3 speeds.
@@mariop8101that was true for the previous Formula E car, but the current generation Formula E car has a maximum speed of 322 kph (200 mph) to the Formula 3 car's 300 (186 mph).
@@ALCTheBlade Continue with you're crusade, but I prefer to watch F3, F2, Indycar, WEC over Fe, that are real races with real tires in real circuits.
@mariop8101 Oh, I'm watching those IndyCar, WEC, and IMSA races as well, but I will give a series its props when it shows improvement and growth, and the current FE cars are far faster than they once were.
in monaco, fe is almost 20% slower than f1. maybe the simulated batteries are lighter after all.
@@RuiAxe73 the new gen's tires are what are really holding it back and that'll show in monaco
bruh the ferrari got drs right off the line
The Indy car would not have led into turn 1. Also the F1 car had DRS open on the start line.
Indeed. Indycar specs make them similar to F2 cars on a road course. COA had them 15 seconds a lap slower than F1 cars
In real life, the F1 & Indy cars would run away from the other.
Indy would be 10-20 seconds slower per lap, but on an oval (& including Indianapalis) The indy car would win.
NOW! let's set the F1 up for an oval race?
Just missing Le Mans Hypercar
I miss the Le Mans LMP1 not the slower than LMP2 Hypercar, they just BOPED LMP2 to slow it down. Even DPI was quicker than the new GTP. They were challenging F1 engines technology, and becoming to expensive.
Overcooking the IndyCar in this one... that car is F2 pace on a road course, even Monza. 7-15 seconds off the pace per lap
This was the 10th attempt due to reliability issues with the ferrari 🤣
Pone a los F1 vs los IndyCar en Indianapolis oval
When compared at COTA, the time difference between F-1 and IndyCar is 15 seconds, and when compared at Suzuka, the difference between F-1 and Super Formula is 4 seconds. So this video is not accurate.
Esse Formula-E está correndo demais em?
@@a.a110 a nova gen é rápida assim mesmo, mas continua não tendo grip igual um super formula por exemplo
@@prod.kirun_ O pneu n deixa de fazer parte do conjunto do carro. Mas eu to me referindo ao mod mesmo, eu já testei e ele está longe de ser algo bem feito. O mesmo vale pros comparativos de gen 2 vs gen 3 no yotube, que usam a gen 2 criada pela vrc e a gen 3 criada pela acfl (o mod dessa aqui é uma porcaria)
It's not credible that a FE car can be that close on street tires...
Só assim para a Ferrari ganhar
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Is that Mercedes at the back 😁😁😁
What was the result?
1° F1, 2° Super Fórmula, 3° Indy and 4° Formula E? Is that correct?
Would have thought super formula would be faster than indy
Because it is on technical tracks, but Monza only horsepower matters as it's full throttle most of the time
Formula E is almost 100kph slower than F1. Indy cars are just as fast but lack in aero (see indy500) The other formula unsure.
It's a shame that in order to keep the FIA status the speed of the FE cars has been capped. They aren't allowed to go faster
@@chumleyk I meant they're not allowed to ever go faster than F1 cars because FIA want F1 to remain the big draw. It's a condition on FEs FIA status
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Indy cars and f1 cars are night and day.
These have very little to do with each of their series
. If one lap is all that matters FE cars can be made to beat every one of them at the cost spending it's available energy .
But again it's a race that goes multiple laps with strictly defined rules the most important one of them regarding fuel limita and fuel flow regulations.
Excluding formula E cars , the most power efficient is the F1 cars which consumes half the energy as Indy cars (4mpg Vs 2mpg approx), and of course because one is hybrid, and others not. I can't find the source, but I am quite certain superformula cars uses less than the indycar yet more than F1 cars.
What I would find to be rather interesting is that one can argue F1 hybrid engines are more fuel efficient than Formula E cars given the massive power they are racing with. Though I don't think there is compelling metric to compute that.
si pones el f1 redbull otra historia
f1: GRRRRRRRR
indy: GRRRRRRR
super formula: GRRRRRRRR
formula e: viiiiiiii
Is this a FIA discovery video?
I expected Formula E to be much slower.
At the Indycar race speeds were above 345kph!
@@mariop8101 best part ofnIndycar is max and joss and christian and toto won't be there!
What is a super fórmula???
The only scenario where the SF23 could win at Monza....😢
@@notdreadyet33 Not really, the much lower exit speed on each corner would hinder Indycar from going anywhere near its potential top speed, even if it’s Monza.
That Gen3 electric car nearly beat a Super Formula car? Wow.
@@mariop8101 true but if battery's keep improving it will ceartinly get the cars a lot closer
@@stephenbachman132 Not on FE, with those tyres, aero and low top speed electric engines. FE are not the faster electric cars, just watch goodwood 2022. The promoter doesn't want a technology race to save money.
Why is the Ferrari not on soft tyres...?
Nice graphics but this is completely fake. It would be nice to see a real competition like this.
Who drives these cars?
サーキット場からして、この結果はあり得る。
ちょっとフォーミュラEは分からないけど、SuperFormulaはコーナーリングマシンで、インディはオーバル走ったりするからかなり速度は出るだろうし、F1はもちろん速い。
違うサーキットも観たい。
SF should be faster than Indycar
Indy far behind at a circuit but in oval would beat every car by far!! Love both categories but preferred Indy is more of a challenge for the driver more cars than F1 which is control by Mercedes, Rd Bull, Ferrari . Indy last season were like ten different winners in the season and at the championship were 6 drivers who could win it that's
Insane there score pts were like 2 or 4 pts of a difference were in F1 is just Max beating everyone and I love F1 and enjoyed it but Indy racing is top level just watch some races and u would see.
F1 has extra drag and downforce, with a custom floor for an oval an F1 car could likely beat Indycar in an oval.
@@gramathy999 but gotta change the transmission cause F1 only hits 208mph and Indy hits 240mph!!
@@Angelbonilla1982 Yes, that's the difference between them, the indy car has a much higher top speed. Gear ratios can be changed though, the F1 has more power. Change the rear wing too, less downforce.
And the F1 would have to ditch the hybrid system, which will be useless on an oval, and make up that power somewhere else. But hey, let’s just completely redesign the F1 car so it’s just like an Indy, then we can all agree that an F1 can beat an Indy on an oval.
@@bencopeland3560 F1 is more of accelaration and stability which is the main reason those cars make insane times. Use does big tires that helped them take those curves at high speeds and transmission helps to.
No way, FE just as fast as the SF? F1 barely faster than Indy? Impossible.
F1 car shouldn't have DRS active....Indycar shouldn't have PTP active.....should be normal setup as no one is on the track with the other cars
A super fórmula japonesa é a q mas se aproxima da F1 basta ver que os tempos dos GP do Japão ficam uns 6 segundos mas lendo em relação a F1 ,fórmula Indy fora dos ovais e mas lenta e a F E e a mas lenta
por que es un circuito con mucha curva, el f1 gana, además no le permiten el paso al Indy car. Los Indy car son mucho más rápidos, pero no hubo oportunidad de que se demostrará por la falta de rectas y espacio.
Why is the Super Formula car so slow? This isn't accurate at all.
スーパーフォーミュラの方がインディカーよりも速いよね。
These '23 IndyCars look...erm...different 🤢
Totally unrealistic and anecdotic. F1 would just leave the SF car behind, and the indy would loose greatly to SF on turns, and the FE would be far behind everybody, car and tyres can't have speed on turns, and low top speed.
Qur jogo é esse?
SF19? SF23…
Essa porra de drs tem que se desativada para valer a conparacy
Poor formula E bro
I think im the only one here that has no clue what super formula is
F1>>Indycar>SuperFoumula>>>FE
I think.
Põe num oval.
Indy car wouldn't hold off F1 for that long
it's Monza so the downforce gap wouldn't be as big between the road course aero package and the Monza package
there is no chance a Formula e is as fast as a super formula
Maybe with a full tank of fuel Super Formula is as slow as Formula E. The difference is that any ICE powered car will lose weight over a race
@@iancypes5911 No, FE is slower than F3. Just compare the times in the Valencia Track test.
@@iancypes5911 You're forgetting the weight of the batteries, they're not made of paper.
@@mariop8101 They haven't even tested FE Gen3 in Valencia. I found only some old 2021 lap times and those are by Gen2.
это то же самое.что сравнивать трактор с грузовиком! полный бред!
The Ferrari is cheating, using DRS in the straits, even though it is in the lead position. 😉
I don't think a FE can catch up a SF.
yeah + with those alien sound engine :D
It definitely shouldn't, they are bad at cornering + this is their first year of the new generation with harder tyres
They'd have a decent chance if they were actually willing to finally run on slicks
Normally it shouldn't, but they have pretty good straight line speed and this in Monza so I'd say in this case it wasn't too far off
the top speed of FE cars is 322kph /200mph and having 500hp with instant torque at 760kg, a SF has 50hp more, weighing 100kg less but have way more aero and downforce than FE. i think its quite realistic that the FE is catching the SF with slipstream and less aero...