Last year the critters (rabbits, deer, etc.) ate just about my whole garden. Then I bought the Premier1 poultry fence to put up around it. It worked to save the plants that were left, that tried to make a valent come back. Being half way through the season, it wasn't much; and we ended up buying produce to can salsa, etc. This year, the fence is up and ready to protect my garden from the start. Long live Premier1.
I've used Premier 1 48" electric semi-permanent with the double spike for 5 years. It is extremely durable and we moved it several times per year. I initially had 7, 100' sections of this fence. I live in a hilly area and by utilizing the correct fence for the application, it worked famously. I had 7 goats and now have 12 sheep and NEVER had an escape. Please, buy the fence designed for the terrain and the specific animals. This is my personal experience with this fence for 5 years at Ponker Farm.
Thanks for the tip! This video is a few years old and we have since traded in the Premier 1 for turbo wire 5 strand. We still use the P1 for our chickens and ducks, but the turbo wire is a much better fit (and much less expensive!) for our goats and landscape.
Used all sorts of fence for goats - the Premier 1 is the best for all seasons on rough terrain (Maine) bar none. If you want electro netting, it's worth the extra money and their customer service is positively amazing
It has worked well for my buck goats. But I just can't keep my does inside the fence. They jump right over it now. I even tried to add an additional wire on top to make it taller...they jump clean over. Do you have any experience with goats that jump the premier 1 fence? I use the 48" tall fence with the extra posts in between.
Happy with my Premiere1 Poultry fencing. Using a energizer that doesn’t push well through even a little weediness/piled up mulch but cannot fault the fencing for that. Cons: Wanted the permanent net fencing cause i use it in my back yard and don’t move it much at all. Cannot get this type in Canada unless willing to pay through the nose on S/H and customs. Only has 2 Canada distributors and they only have one type of Premier poultry fencing type, which is NOT the type used for ‘permanent’/long term instillation. -Expensive -fencing netting with long sections Tends to stretch out /droop/sag overtime. Pros: -Very nice quality. -Comes with a nice repair kit. Lots of replacement fencing rope and clips. -Does NOT tangle up on itself nearly as much as another electric net fencing I bought the Premier fencing to replace. This seems to have something to do with the texture of the materials. This made for a MUCH easier installation and moving. -Comes with nice long ties useful for securing the fencing to another section of fencing or other object as well as great for parceling it up nice and neat for storage.
Thank you. I thought I was the only one who had issues. For me, goats are a no go unless I want to put young ones on area for a day. I can use for poultry on flat areas and for sheep. I will continue to use for flat and temporary areas but will keep working on permanent fencing.
Thanks for sharing this honest video! When I went to the HOA conference this year the Premier One guys had a booth and I got their catalogues to look through for the future. I’ll keep this in mind. Also, I know you guys are busy but would you be willing to do a video taking stock of the animals that y’all have on the farm? Visiting the goats, head count and future plans with the chickens, checking in on the dogs, etc. I’d love to see it!
I think most farms/homesteads would benefit from it in some way...but it's a big chunk of money if it's only going to be used in certain situations. Thanks for checking in!!
I raise a small breed of pigs...and properly trained them to Premier 1 Pig netting for pastured pigs (the kit, with energizer). The net doesn't reach the ground (6" gap) and within a couple months, they figured out that they could quickly push the net up and run under it. Then, BOOM...just like - hundreds of dollars totally wasted! The clips and caps just slide onto the fiber rods...they aren't threaded, so when the clips slide up it leaves an opening the height of the rod for all the other pigs to follow through. When the caps are pushed off, the net falls to the ground and the pigs just walk over it.
I may have over looked it but what solar charger did you go with that will work on 3 - 164 length goat fences or suggestions on how many joules or watts?
Hey, thanks for the info....would have liked some video clips of the positives and negatives... seeing your goats trying to get out...you trying to set up with snags etc
Yeah, I thought about it after the fact...would've mad the video more interesting to watch too! I'll see what I can put together. I haven't actually seen the goats while they were escaping...just find them running around the field free as can be....thanks for the comment!!
HA! Great question...I'm STILL trying to use this...and it still doesn't really work for me. It truly shines as a temporary solution...but make sure and put in permanent field fence (woven wire) before you get your animals. We've been saving up and will be installing field fence soon (HOPEFULLY!). Thanks for the question!!
I have three big neighbor dogs that already killed one of my rabbits. We will have ove 50 chickens here soon.. Do you think this will keep those dogs out?
If you're careful to keep the grass around it trimmed and make sure you ground it well, it should be a great deterrent for even a really motivated dog. Unless the dogs are really big and athletic and can jump over it!
If you make sure to keep weeds/grass off the fence so it stays really "hot", I think it would work. Groundhogs might dig under it. BUT it would probably be cheaper to buy some chicken wire and t-posts/wooden posts AND you don't have to worry about a charger. Thanks for commenting!!
I've used the netting for my dogs a time or two, but only as a temporary run. They definitely respected it. But I'm not sure that I would use it as a permanent kennel area. Little dogs might be able to squirt through the holes near the bottom and athletic dogs would almost certainly be able to jump it. But it would work in a pinch if you need to keep them out of the way for a few hours. Thanks for commenting!!
Sorry for the delayed response. The double spike is more stable, but the single spike is easier to move (one hand holding gathered fence, other hand pulling fence out of ground). You can use other chargers, just make sure they are low impedance and use a pulse shock, not continuous current. I bought a stronger charger for the goats and use the Premier One charger for the chickens.
We still use the P1 for our chickens and ducks, but moved on to Turbo wire for the goats. They can't get under OR over it and it gives them a good zing if they try. It's worked out much better for the goats!
Thank you for making this video. I see the Premier 1 fencing in virtually everyone's videos and wondered about it. It seems awfully expensive to me. And I live on hilly, wooded property, too! Thanks for the heads-up!
You might be able to use it in the woods if it was semi-permanent...only moved it once every month or every few months. But moving it a few times a week in the wood would be a pain! Thanks for stopping by!!
I have had a problem with the netting getting caught stuff as well. We've kept sheep and chickens in it temporarily. But our property got pretty grown up before we got our riding mower and there were lots of saplings coming up. Now that it's all mowed down, the netting gets caught on all those little sapling stumps. My netting also only has the one spike at the bottom instead of the double that you can step on. It can be really hard to push into our clay ground when it's dry or frozen. I also have trouble keeping the netting taut. But I'm pretty sure that last part is user error on my part.
We've got the double spiked posts and that seems to work pretty well. I don't have too much of an issue getting the fence tight, except on some of the hills. I think it just depends how you want to use it and what type of farm you have...it'll work great for some and struggle for others. Thanks for dropping in!!
With all the people that use premier 1 no comments (ok only 17 people looked) so far however I do rotated fencing with perment fence and move animals not the fence It works better for me. Animals dont exscape, do to fence charger not working.Premier 1 starter fence cost close to 500.00 dollars with the same money can get 2 rolls of 330ft of fence plus t post. Of course when premeir gives youtubers the fence to push, for us to buy then it is cheaper. Thanks for the pros and cons of premier 1
For people like Joel Salatin moving it behind cows, I see it being the perfect solution. But it's definitely not for everyone. I'd like to get our entire property fenced permanently and then use the Premier 1 fence on an "as needed" basis. Thanks for commenting Wes!
Last year the critters (rabbits, deer, etc.) ate just about my whole garden. Then I bought the Premier1 poultry fence to put up around it. It worked to save the plants that were left, that tried to make a valent come back. Being half way through the season, it wasn't much; and we ended up buying produce to can salsa, etc. This year, the fence is up and ready to protect my garden from the start. Long live Premier1.
I think it probably would work very well as a garden fence!
I've used Premier 1 48" electric semi-permanent with the double spike for 5 years. It is extremely durable and we moved it several times per year. I initially had 7, 100' sections of this fence. I live in a hilly area and by utilizing the correct fence for the application, it worked famously. I had 7 goats and now have 12 sheep and NEVER had an escape. Please, buy the fence designed for the terrain and the specific animals. This is my personal experience with this fence for 5 years at Ponker Farm.
Thanks for the tip! This video is a few years old and we have since traded in the Premier 1 for turbo wire 5 strand. We still use the P1 for our chickens and ducks, but the turbo wire is a much better fit (and much less expensive!) for our goats and landscape.
I was going to say the same things you told him. You would think he has enough intelligence to choose the right fence.
Used all sorts of fence for goats - the Premier 1 is the best for all seasons on rough terrain (Maine) bar none. If you want electro netting, it's worth the extra money and their customer service is positively amazing
It has worked well for my buck goats. But I just can't keep my does inside the fence. They jump right over it now. I even tried to add an additional wire on top to make it taller...they jump clean over. Do you have any experience with goats that jump the premier 1 fence? I use the 48" tall fence with the extra posts in between.
Dang! We also have 48" and have Lamancha and Nigerian Dwarf, but have had no issues with them getting out orders even attempting to jump the fence.
Happy with my Premiere1 Poultry fencing.
Using a energizer that doesn’t push well through even a little weediness/piled up mulch but cannot fault the fencing for that.
Cons:
Wanted the permanent net fencing cause i use it in my back yard and don’t move it much at all. Cannot get this type in Canada unless willing to pay through the nose on S/H and customs.
Only has 2 Canada distributors and they only have one type of Premier poultry fencing type, which is NOT the type used for ‘permanent’/long term instillation.
-Expensive
-fencing netting with long sections Tends to stretch out /droop/sag overtime.
Pros:
-Very nice quality.
-Comes with a nice repair kit. Lots of replacement fencing rope and clips.
-Does NOT tangle up on itself nearly as much as another electric net fencing I bought the Premier fencing to replace. This seems to have something to do with the texture of the materials. This made for a MUCH easier installation and moving.
-Comes with nice long ties useful for securing the fencing to another section of fencing or other object as well as great for parceling it up nice and neat for storage.
Thank you. I thought I was the only one who had issues. For me, goats are a no go unless I want to put young ones on area for a day. I can use for poultry on flat areas and for sheep. I will continue to use for flat and temporary areas but will keep working on permanent fencing.
Yep, I'm in the same boat! I think it definitely has it's positives, but most folks don't talk about the negatives. Thanks for checking in!!
What a beautiful house/ home. I love older homes.
Thanks for sharing this honest video! When I went to the HOA conference this year the Premier One guys had a booth and I got their catalogues to look through for the future. I’ll keep this in mind. Also, I know you guys are busy but would you be willing to do a video taking stock of the animals that y’all have on the farm? Visiting the goats, head count and future plans with the chickens, checking in on the dogs, etc. I’d love to see it!
Thanks for watching Claire...I think that's a great idea for a video! We'll make it soon!!
This is excellent information. I've been scared of using this for years.
I think most farms/homesteads would benefit from it in some way...but it's a big chunk of money if it's only going to be used in certain situations. Thanks for checking in!!
Most people I saw use them in the woods or anywhere, they weed whack/string trim a path, you want to keep it clear.
Very thorough info. Thanks!
You are welcome. Happy New Year!
I raise a small breed of pigs...and properly trained them to Premier 1 Pig netting for pastured pigs (the kit, with energizer). The net doesn't reach the ground (6" gap) and within a couple months, they figured out that they could quickly push the net up and run under it. Then, BOOM...just like - hundreds of dollars totally wasted! The clips and caps just slide onto the fiber rods...they aren't threaded, so when the clips slide up it leaves an opening the height of the rod for all the other pigs to follow through. When the caps are pushed off, the net falls to the ground and the pigs just walk over it.
We found the same issue with our goats…so we only use the Premier 1 with the chickens. It was frustrating because the fencing is so expensive!
I may have over looked it but what solar charger did you go with that will work on 3 - 164 length goat fences or suggestions on how many joules or watts?
Good video, trying to decide if I want to use poultry netting.
We have really liked it for chickens...but make sure you keep the grass very trim around the bottom...it shorts out easily! Good luck!
Hey, thanks for the info....would have liked some video clips of the positives and negatives... seeing your goats trying to get out...you trying to set up with snags etc
Yeah, I thought about it after the fact...would've mad the video more interesting to watch too! I'll see what I can put together. I haven't actually seen the goats while they were escaping...just find them running around the field free as can be....thanks for the comment!!
Nice video , good honest info ..thanks !
Thanks for stopping by and commenting!
what fencing do you use for your goats now? Getting goats soon and trying to decide what I should get.
HA! Great question...I'm STILL trying to use this...and it still doesn't really work for me. It truly shines as a temporary solution...but make sure and put in permanent field fence (woven wire) before you get your animals. We've been saving up and will be installing field fence soon (HOPEFULLY!). Thanks for the question!!
So your does still jumping ?
Thank you so much this was helpful.
You are so welcome! Thanks for stopping by!
I have three big neighbor dogs that already killed one of my rabbits. We will have ove 50 chickens here soon.. Do you think this will keep those dogs out?
If you're careful to keep the grass around it trimmed and make sure you ground it well, it should be a great deterrent for even a really motivated dog. Unless the dogs are really big and athletic and can jump over it!
.13 cent bullet can handle that situation
Get a whole pile of plastic tent pegs and peg the bottom line down.
Don’t go trying to use Premier, one temporary netting for perimeter fence .
How would this work for protect my gardens from rabbits and groundhogs?
If you make sure to keep weeds/grass off the fence so it stays really "hot", I think it would work. Groundhogs might dig under it. BUT it would probably be cheaper to buy some chicken wire and t-posts/wooden posts AND you don't have to worry about a charger. Thanks for commenting!!
Mine keeps grounding out I check and check
The stakes with wire touching
The battery. Connection
Etc
I bought a Starkline netting kit and it has worked perfectly! I can't speak to Premier netting but I love mine.
I really like the netting for the chickens...it's my goats that give it fits!!
Would you say that you could use this to set up a dog kennel area?
I've used the netting for my dogs a time or two, but only as a temporary run. They definitely respected it. But I'm not sure that I would use it as a permanent kennel area. Little dogs might be able to squirt through the holes near the bottom and athletic dogs would almost certainly be able to jump it. But it would work in a pinch if you need to keep them out of the way for a few hours. Thanks for commenting!!
have any info on double or single spike? can you use another charger unit with the Premier 1 fencing?
Sorry for the delayed response. The double spike is more stable, but the single spike is easier to move (one hand holding gathered fence, other hand pulling fence out of ground). You can use other chargers, just make sure they are low impedance and use a pulse shock, not continuous current. I bought a stronger charger for the goats and use the Premier One charger for the chickens.
What charger did you get for the goats? Thanks for sharing
You need pins to keep the bottom line on the ground.
Hmmm...not a bad idea. Thanks for the tip!!
Sounds like you need a pos/neg fencing. My ground a very dry but it would keep your sheep/goats from going underneath. my dog have tried😬
We still use the P1 for our chickens and ducks, but moved on to Turbo wire for the goats. They can't get under OR over it and it gives them a good zing if they try. It's worked out much better for the goats!
Thank you for making this video. I see the Premier 1 fencing in virtually everyone's videos and wondered about it. It seems awfully expensive to me. And I live on hilly, wooded property, too! Thanks for the heads-up!
You might be able to use it in the woods if it was semi-permanent...only moved it once every month or every few months. But moving it a few times a week in the wood would be a pain! Thanks for stopping by!!
Would the fencing keep groundhogs and rabbits out of a garden?
Probably not, it can be dug under if they are determined (which ground hogs usually are!)
I have had a problem with the netting getting caught stuff as well. We've kept sheep and chickens in it temporarily. But our property got pretty grown up before we got our riding mower and there were lots of saplings coming up. Now that it's all mowed down, the netting gets caught on all those little sapling stumps. My netting also only has the one spike at the bottom instead of the double that you can step on. It can be really hard to push into our clay ground when it's dry or frozen. I also have trouble keeping the netting taut. But I'm pretty sure that last part is user error on my part.
We've got the double spiked posts and that seems to work pretty well. I don't have too much of an issue getting the fence tight, except on some of the hills. I think it just depends how you want to use it and what type of farm you have...it'll work great for some and struggle for others. Thanks for dropping in!!
With all the people that use premier 1 no comments (ok only 17 people looked) so far however I do rotated fencing with perment fence and move animals not the fence It works better for me. Animals dont exscape, do to fence charger not working.Premier 1 starter fence cost close to 500.00 dollars with the same money can get 2 rolls of 330ft of fence plus t post. Of course when premeir gives youtubers the fence to push, for us to buy then it is cheaper. Thanks for the pros and cons of premier 1
For people like Joel Salatin moving it behind cows, I see it being the perfect solution. But it's definitely not for everyone. I'd like to get our entire property fenced permanently and then use the Premier 1 fence on an "as needed" basis. Thanks for commenting Wes!
You lost me at if it can hold in a chicken it can hold in a goat
Yea....we have learned that that is very much not true! ha! Definitely need a fortress for goats. Thanks for watching!
If your fence can’t hold water … it won’t hold goats 🐐 💧
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Can you use green hedge like hedge lucerne for fencing?
What about rocky soil...we have very rocky soil.
You might have a challenge putting in the step in posts? They need to go down a couple of inches to secure the fence.
@@TealHouseFarm Hmmm...I was afraid of that. I will call the company about it. Thanks.
Great product. Rude people working there. Try to get a refund. No longer nice