This video looks at the Boston Celtics and how they are going to be just fine without Kristaps Porzingis in their lineup and Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown
The true genius of Boston Celtics is how they were able to build this team. 4 stars and the unmatchable depth. They basicallt just replaces williams and smart with jrue and kristap without breaking the team.or losing depth. While other teams would either break the bank or sell their future just to get a couple of stars. So unfair
@@Pyxyty the only argument i see against a "superteam" is that they haven't achieved anything. But people like to say that brown isn't worth the money, and he's not nor will be a superstar, while simultaneously calling it a superteam. Can't have it both ways, but this is a superteam imo.
Thank god we have Jrue replacing Smart this time. Omg what a difference it makes having a guy who can play such a huge role on both ends of the floor game in and game out.
Horford carries the Celtics to the finals in 2022. With Smart at PG. now we have Jrue Holiday. We can make it to the finals without KP. In fact, we could potentially win the Finals without him.
The only contention I have with the Celtics advancing to the finals with or without Kristops is simply can they stay mentally focused enough? They have a tendency to let go of the rope as you all know! I don’t care who they face if they’re focused, it’s gonna be tough to beat this team four out of seven. Go C‘s and good luck!
The question to me is how many minutes can Horford play while maintaining a high level of performance? He seemed to wear down a bit in the playoffs last year, and the games will be every other day in the CLE series. I think Luke Kornet and maybe Xavier Tillman are going to have to provide solid minutes to avoid overworking Al until KP returns.
I think a paradigm shift is needed. Perhaps its time to stop looking at d.white as 1 of the supporting cast and look at him as the legit 3rd star (especially with KP out). D.white has been the celtics MVP this 1st round and if the celtics want to keep pushing for quick series ends, they would be wise to make d.white as the #1 option. Hes on a tear. We are seeing playoff white. The Js are better off now as secondary scorers/decoys and focusing on defense while letting white cook.
@@josephrafferty6763 nope. I'm.not. the point here is opposing teams will always put their best defenders on the Js. Rather than the Js having to beat that, why not put the ball in the hands of the best decision maker and make him the #1 option? if the pass is the right read, he'll make it. If its to dominate that weaker matchup, he will. And of course, would an opposing team risk sending someone to double white off the Js? nope. Hence, thats why i said a paradigm shift is needed and that d.white should be the #1 option. He has the capability of scoring as a #1 option while taking on the 3rd or worse defender of the opposing team. I think its you who is conflating being a #1 option as being the best player on the team.
@TheRobversion1 OK. But is that being the number 1 option or is it being the guy with the ball in their hands (i.e. a more traditional PG role?) Edit: if the latter, I absolutely agree, btw. I've been saying for a while that they should use Tatum and Brown as the off-ball scorers/secondary ball handlers they really are. They're legit wings, not massive PGs like Lebron James. But I don't think that makes them not the #1 and #2 options.
@@josephrafferty6763 its the same. Basically, its put the ball in the hands of your best decision maker, playmaker and by virtue of having a weaker defender on him, would be the most efficient scorer on the team as well. A number 1 option is who you go to primarily. I'd go to d white primarily if he has the 3rd or worse defender on him and i trust him to score 8/10 times over that player (as evidenced by his 70+ TS in the miami series). I'd also advocate using the Js more off-ball. More screening and cutting actions. I look at them as primary scoring options as long as they have weaker defenders on them. I dont consider JB a primary playmaker. JT has been great at this role but not as good as d.white. he still takes too long to process at times and slows the pace down. Heres my hot take: all things being equal (meaning all 3 have the same defender on them), i'd rank them this way: JT>white>JB. yes, i'd put JB behind white. Not only because whites been on a heater but JBs been in a slump recently efficiency wise: 1. below 50% FT every game. He misses at least 2 FTs a game. 2. shooting slump on 3. 3. shooting slump from mid-range. Only thing hes been doing well is scoring near the basket though he has done this in a variety of ways (post-up, drives, cuts).
Incorrect, a lot of people/youtubers/reporters, how you want to call them; say the Celtics championship window is closed. Due to Kristaps being injured
@@nobodybelievesunderscores4122 we were 21-4 when Porzingis didn't play now that he is healing on company time other guys on the Celtics need to step up to the plate when their number is called on
I hope that they would face the Cavs. Cavs have 2 bigs, Allen & Mobley, it would be a great preparation for them in case they will meet the Wolves in the Finals who have 2-3 bigs, Gobert, Towns & Reid.
I think what may surprise many...is Luke Kornet is going to get minutes and he is no chump.....he has played alot of minutes and compliments the others and isn't expected to score a Lot.
It’s funny though if you look at the net rating leaders in the nba this season, the top 4 leaders are in this order: Hauser, Pritchard, Dwhite, and Luke Kornet lol
So far a disappointing team that with this amount of talent should have been won a championship. Best wishes for Tatum and team this playoff run because if they don’t win this year how does Boston not break this team up!
A champion mentality team shouldn't need to rely on just a star player to win there games celtics have a team it's there's for the win they deserve it I hope its wolfs vs boston because at least if celtics take a L the wolfs have never won the nba championship and it would be good for the sport but at a celtics fan I still want my team to win 😂
I dont think they mean like ther gunna lose immediately ...i think they meant ther chance at championship is over .....they have had this team before and feel short some say they even choked and porzingis was the piece to get them over the hump with porzingis out thats in jeopardy and yanis got the same injury at the end this season never returned so are we sure injury prone porzingis will be back for the next round .....idk
We will be fine we got Hoffa kornet tillman and queta as well as brissett long aa our defense holds we will be fine cause offensivly we got a lot of scorers
Do a deeper dive on the defense. That's how they have won all year. They were no.2 all year and point differential is usually statistically boosted more by defense...not just offense. The 3 pointers are a bonus. Lazy analysis just looks at the 3 pointers only. Case in point forst round was actually won defensively not by the Celtics 3 pointers. All of ye 3 pointer analysis falls apart in regards to consistency. You know what has been consistent all year? Celtics defense.
Yes it because if a good player is out, others have to pick up the slack and work even harder. That’s the whole difference buddy. KP makes their whole game easier for them, making players feel more relaxed. It’s like you have somebody reliable in your team who can put some points instead of you needing to pick up slack.
I don’t see how Celtics can beat Denver or wolves in finals without KP ! I don’t seee th besting knocks on a potential ECFwptgit PK . Playoffs are different animal and can’t be compared to regular season !!! Celtics don’t have strong bodies and will loose the rebound battle easily without KP and have a lousy coach as well
When the Knicks drafted him. A video of a NY fan asking who KP was and used tingus pingus instead of his name went around. So it's stuck. It's like how you might scream "LEROY JENKINS" before going into a battle. Because some guy did it in World of Warcraft one time. And the internet saw it and ran with it.
Some clown on draft night who knew absolutely nothing about basketball & even less about geography thought he was being funny but actually made a complete fool of himself
Gtf over it bro. Ainge is gone, Stevens has treated everyone with class. Even Smart had nothing bad to say. Ainge was a jackass but this is a completely different front office now
Genious? Porzingis health was a risk.... AND IT HAPPENED.. And Jrue Holiday is sticking it up... like he does every single playoffs. They went all in... and if health remains like this... they aren't favorites against any of the West potential rivals.
I dont get it using the regular season recprd, without KP to talk about the Playoffs! You can't compare the regular season, when teams also have problems, rest and sometimes really don't care about the game (many teams are trying to LOSE to get a better draft pick)
If the Celtics don't win the title this year, they never will with this JT and JB led period. They have been trying with many different versions since 2018. All chips are in this year with the addition of KP and Holiday. They really are loaded with a very good bench. If Denver, Minnesota, OKC end up winning the title it is a fail for Boston and I don't think they can recover with another disappointment.
I agree but I’ll go further. They should trade Jaylen Brown no matter what. Brown makes them worse on both sides of the ball. They are 12-0 without him this season as well 😂
I think this will be their best chance. The west is only getting better and they young teams in the east are rising up. Plus no Giannis or Jimmy in the playoffs this year
No doubt Brad Stevens is an Alpha in basketball; but after dismissing Udoka, he has not made any earthshaking decision to improve Boston’s coaching staff, save for naming JVG as consultant.
Mazzulla IMO is doing everything he's been asked to do and that is to get buy in from his stars JT/JB/KP and keep the locker room something that Darvin Ham and Frank Vogel failed to do. Celtics are so talented you don't need a coach Spo to win.
These comments come from casual fans who have no idea what they are talking about because they don't watch games. You don't get ahead of the entire NBA by 12 games by not having a good coach and if you watch the games, the adjustments and discipline have been reinforced by the coach.
LOL wtf? You do realize other teams are trying to poach Charles lee? Hes like the leading candidate this offseason, aside from JJ, for franchises with open head coaching opportunites. Sam Cassell is a solid assistant as well.
The entire C's coaching staff is up for jobs, and Mazzulla has been outstanding. Basically every player is having their best year, and they had a month off at the end of the season bc of how far ahead they were.
The true genius of Boston Celtics is how they were able to build this team. 4 stars and the unmatchable depth. They basicallt just replaces williams and smart with jrue and kristap without breaking the team.or losing depth. While other teams would either break the bank or sell their future just to get a couple of stars. So unfair
Incredible
Celtics fans will say this but then deny the fact their team is (an admittedly well formed) superteam when it gets brought up lol.
@@Pyxyty the only argument i see against a "superteam" is that they haven't achieved anything. But people like to say that brown isn't worth the money, and he's not nor will be a superstar, while simultaneously calling it a superteam. Can't have it both ways, but this is a superteam imo.
@@Pyxytythey have 2 All Stars and won no regular season awards. How exactly are they a super team?
Thank god we have Jrue replacing Smart this time. Omg what a difference it makes having a guy who can play such a huge role on both ends of the floor game in and game out.
Tatum averaging 10 rebounds is huge
Yep
He hit the weight room in the offseason with Truth. It is paying off. He can also go get you 50 any given night
Horford carries the Celtics to the finals in 2022. With Smart at PG. now we have Jrue Holiday. We can make it to the finals without KP. In fact, we could potentially win the Finals without him.
I still remember the game against the bucks where he went off after being dunked on by Giannis
@@jruth77 “I don’t know what he said, but I didn’t like it.” 🤣 He’s Giannis’ daddy.
Yeah, but can you beat the Nuggets or Thunder?
@@malasc12 we probably need KP for that.
@@malasc12 in fact wolves & dallas also very good. but maybe they'll be exhausted fighting eachother
The only contention I have with the Celtics advancing to the finals with or without Kristops is simply can they stay mentally focused enough? They have a tendency to let go of the rope as you all know! I don’t care who they face if they’re focused, it’s gonna be tough to beat this team four out of seven. Go C‘s and good luck!
I agree with that
I dont know why keep Kornet until i saw how he played against bam. Hope Kornet could play more minutes
He’s a gem
The question to me is how many minutes can Horford play while maintaining a high level of performance? He seemed to wear down a bit in the playoffs last year, and the games will be every other day in the CLE series. I think Luke Kornet and maybe Xavier Tillman are going to have to provide solid minutes to avoid overworking Al until KP returns.
Tillman definitely can pitch in. Gave the Grizzlies quality playoff minutes
I think a paradigm shift is needed. Perhaps its time to stop looking at d.white as 1 of the supporting cast and look at him as the legit 3rd star (especially with KP out).
D.white has been the celtics MVP this 1st round and if the celtics want to keep pushing for quick series ends, they would be wise to make d.white as the #1 option. Hes on a tear. We are seeing playoff white. The Js are better off now as secondary scorers/decoys and focusing on defense while letting white cook.
I agree lol. He was so good the first round
You're conflating White being the guy with the easiest matchup with him being the best #1 option.
@@josephrafferty6763 nope. I'm.not. the point here is opposing teams will always put their best defenders on the Js. Rather than the Js having to beat that, why not put the ball in the hands of the best decision maker and make him the #1 option? if the pass is the right read, he'll make it. If its to dominate that weaker matchup, he will. And of course, would an opposing team risk sending someone to double white off the Js? nope. Hence, thats why i said a paradigm shift is needed and that d.white should be the #1 option. He has the capability of scoring as a #1 option while taking on the 3rd or worse defender of the opposing team.
I think its you who is conflating being a #1 option as being the best player on the team.
@TheRobversion1 OK. But is that being the number 1 option or is it being the guy with the ball in their hands (i.e. a more traditional PG role?)
Edit: if the latter, I absolutely agree, btw. I've been saying for a while that they should use Tatum and Brown as the off-ball scorers/secondary ball handlers they really are. They're legit wings, not massive PGs like Lebron James. But I don't think that makes them not the #1 and #2 options.
@@josephrafferty6763 its the same. Basically, its put the ball in the hands of your best decision maker, playmaker and by virtue of having a weaker defender on him, would be the most efficient scorer on the team as well.
A number 1 option is who you go to primarily. I'd go to d white primarily if he has the 3rd or worse defender on him and i trust him to score 8/10 times over that player (as evidenced by his 70+ TS in the miami series).
I'd also advocate using the Js more off-ball. More screening and cutting actions. I look at them as primary scoring options as long as they have weaker defenders on them. I dont consider JB a primary playmaker. JT has been great at this role but not as good as d.white. he still takes too long to process at times and slows the pace down.
Heres my hot take: all things being equal (meaning all 3 have the same defender on them), i'd rank them this way: JT>white>JB. yes, i'd put JB behind white. Not only because whites been on a heater but JBs been in a slump recently efficiency wise:
1. below 50% FT every game. He misses at least 2 FTs a game.
2. shooting slump on 3.
3. shooting slump from mid-range.
Only thing hes been doing well is scoring near the basket though he has done this in a variety of ways (post-up, drives, cuts).
I havent heard a single person say the Celtics season is over that wasnt doing a sting for their youtube video.
I heard a lot say they are screwed without him which I found dumb because they’re perfectly fine with him
Incorrect, a lot of people/youtubers/reporters, how you want to call them; say the Celtics championship window is closed. Due to Kristaps being injured
@@nobodybelievesunderscores4122 we were 21-4 when Porzingis didn't play now that he is healing on company time other guys on the Celtics need to step up to the plate when their number is called on
@@ultragamer102 they say all that for ratings and likes on UA-cam
@@ultragamer102for the finals theyve said that but round 2-3 they said we can win easily
I hope that they would face the Cavs. Cavs have 2 bigs, Allen & Mobley, it would be a great preparation for them in case they will meet the Wolves in the Finals who have 2-3 bigs, Gobert, Towns & Reid.
Allen is out... Rib injury
With KP still resting like ever Celtics team Al horford will be filling in for KP in the ECSF
Horford can do it
Great video, great breakdown, enjoyed this.
Thanks man!
Jaylen Brown ENTER his 1st YEAR PRIMES 💪🔥💪
I think what may surprise many...is Luke Kornet is going to get minutes and he is no chump.....he has played alot of minutes and compliments the others and isn't expected to score a Lot.
Valid
I went to a Celtics game without Tatum and tingus and Korbut had 20😮😮
Stats should not be points per game but points per minute (how can you compare bench stats saying "per game"?) :))
👍🏼
The issue is not so much the drop off from KP to ah but from ah to LK on the bench.
Valid. LK is more than serviceable tho
It’s funny though if you look at the net rating leaders in the nba this season, the top 4 leaders are in this order:
Hauser, Pritchard, Dwhite, and Luke Kornet lol
If Horford and Kornet each played 40 minutes, Kornet would put up better numbers. He's much better than people give him credit for.
It really depends on how good your coach is. I cant ask for more if iam the celtics headcoach.
is that 2k at 2:51 on queta's photo? lmfao
Brad Stevens plays chess when everyone else plays checkers.
Fax
So far a disappointing team that with this amount of talent should have been won a championship. Best wishes for Tatum and team this playoff run because if they don’t win this year how does Boston not break this team up!
Idk man I think this team could do it
A champion mentality team shouldn't need to rely on just a star player to win there games celtics have a team it's there's for the win they deserve it I hope its wolfs vs boston because at least if celtics take a L the wolfs have never won the nba championship and it would be good for the sport but at a celtics fan I still want my team to win 😂
Who said he is out until the finals?
Eastern Conference finals
Center - KP8 out, Big Al in. Kornet back-up;
PF - JT, X-man or Queta;
SF - Sam, OB, Drew P., Svi;
SG - DWhite, PP
PG - JH, JD
I dont think they mean like ther gunna lose immediately ...i think they meant ther chance at championship is over .....they have had this team before and feel short some say they even choked and porzingis was the piece to get them over the hump with porzingis out thats in jeopardy and yanis got the same injury at the end this season never returned so are we sure injury prone porzingis will be back for the next round .....idk
I think they can take the Knicks without him. It might take 6 or 7 games tho
We will be fine we got Hoffa kornet tillman and queta as well as brissett long aa our defense holds we will be fine cause offensivly we got a lot of scorers
Boston beat pacers in 5 and beat the west in 6. Then all the media can get off their back and give them some credit for the year they are having
IF THE CELTICS MAKE TATUM THEIR CENTER THEY WILL BE BETTER!!
Do a deeper dive on the defense. That's how they have won all year. They were no.2 all year and point differential is usually statistically boosted more by defense...not just offense. The 3 pointers are a bonus. Lazy analysis just looks at the 3 pointers only. Case in point forst round was actually won defensively not by the Celtics 3 pointers. All of ye 3 pointer analysis falls apart in regards to consistency. You know what has been consistent all year? Celtics defense.
Agreed. Celtics beat the heat with defense. They didnt shoot well from 3 in 3/5 games.
Agreed. Defense was not up to their standard in Game 2, and that was a big reason why they dropped a game.
Who was our big in the last ECF/Finals appearances?? Horford... We're alright until KP gets back
Yup
Celtics with a bye to the conference finals 😂
Haha
Round # on Tuesday welcome Cleveland to Our House!! 🏀🏀
Yessir
Boston obviously wants pirzingus, but the major stats are actually all slightly better when hes been out sonehow lol
Yes it because if a good player is out, others have to pick up the slack and work even harder. That’s the whole difference buddy. KP makes their whole game easier for them, making players feel more relaxed. It’s like you have somebody reliable in your team who can put some points instead of you needing to pick up slack.
It’s insanity
what Im worried is Tatum shooting badly this playoffs
He gotta get downhill more. Everybody shooting percentage drops in the playoff tho
The Knicks will be a tough out.
Yep
I pray they don't bring back pingus till the finals
I don’t see how Celtics can beat Denver or wolves in finals without KP ! I don’t seee th besting knocks on a potential ECFwptgit PK . Playoffs are different animal and can’t be compared to regular season !!! Celtics don’t have strong bodies and will loose the rebound battle easily without KP and have a lousy coach as well
They have scrappy players in Tillman and Queta - when those guys play they get boards.
why is KP called tinggis pinggis?
A clip from when he was drafted of a knicks fan screaming "What the F did they do? Who the F is this dude? Who the F is TINGUS PINGUS?" xD
When the Knicks drafted him. A video of a NY fan asking who KP was and used tingus pingus instead of his name went around. So it's stuck. It's like how you might scream "LEROY JENKINS" before going into a battle. Because some guy did it in World of Warcraft one time. And the internet saw it and ran with it.
Some clown on draft night who knew absolutely nothing about basketball & even less about geography thought he was being funny but actually made a complete fool of himself
@@chuckhauser6336 he was being absolutely hilarious relax
We NEVER gna forget what the Celtics did to Isaiah Thomas. I hope the Celtics lose.
Gtf over it bro. Ainge is gone, Stevens has treated everyone with class. Even Smart had nothing bad to say. Ainge was a jackass but this is a completely different front office now
@@Andy_Babb you’re right but the memories still haunt celtics fans to this day 😔
Knicks are browns territory
Genious? Porzingis health was a risk.... AND IT HAPPENED..
And Jrue Holiday is sticking it up... like he does every single playoffs.
They went all in... and if health remains like this... they aren't favorites against any of the West potential rivals.
Do not talk about my glorious defensive king Jrue Holiday like that
Hawks winning the chip next year
Well that’s definitely a bold take
Lol...no...they are trading one of their guards...and utterly rebuilding lol
I'll have whatever you're drinking.
Damn I ain’t know that the state of Georgia had legalized cannabis
I dont get it using the regular season recprd, without KP to talk about the Playoffs! You can't compare the regular season, when teams also have problems, rest and sometimes really don't care about the game (many teams are trying to LOSE to get a better draft pick)
Um the record shows they are still really good even without KP. So they should be fine against either the cavs or magic.
Just using stats to back up the fact that they are good without KP. Only played 1 playoff game without him so
If the Celtics don't win the title this year, they never will with this JT and JB led period. They have been trying with many different versions since 2018. All chips are in this year with the addition of KP and Holiday. They really are loaded with a very good bench. If Denver, Minnesota, OKC end up winning the title it is a fail for Boston and I don't think they can recover with another disappointment.
Are you a sueth sayer
I agree but I’ll go further. They should trade Jaylen Brown no matter what. Brown makes them worse on both sides of the ball. They are 12-0 without him this season as well 😂
I think this will be their best chance. The west is only getting better and they young teams in the east are rising up. Plus no Giannis or Jimmy in the playoffs this year
Yes I am, and I say they do win it this year! Lol
With or without the KP, Celtics will have hard times to pass New York Knicks.
Delusional!
Not sure ab that one
Sorry .....celts are head and shoulders above the ny clowns....jrue Holliday will abuse brunson
If you think knicks are gonna beat celts it'll have to be in a video game cause boston is playing the pacers in the ecf
The Knicks are a good team but having them as favorites against the C’s is not a great take imo
No doubt Brad Stevens is an Alpha in basketball; but after dismissing Udoka, he has not made any earthshaking decision to improve Boston’s coaching staff, save for naming JVG as consultant.
Kinda had to do what he did with Ime. Sucks cuz he was great for Boston
Mazzulla IMO is doing everything he's been asked to do and that is to get buy in from his stars JT/JB/KP and keep the locker room something that Darvin Ham and Frank Vogel failed to do. Celtics are so talented you don't need a coach Spo to win.
These comments come from casual fans who have no idea what they are talking about because they don't watch games. You don't get ahead of the entire NBA by 12 games by not having a good coach and if you watch the games, the adjustments and discipline have been reinforced by the coach.
LOL wtf? You do realize other teams are trying to poach Charles lee? Hes like the leading candidate this offseason, aside from JJ, for franchises with open head coaching opportunites.
Sam Cassell is a solid assistant as well.
The entire C's coaching staff is up for jobs, and Mazzulla has been outstanding. Basically every player is having their best year, and they had a month off at the end of the season bc of how far ahead they were.