Beauty and Decay | Vampire: The Masquerade - L.A. By Night | Season 3 Episode 6
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- Опубліковано 30 лип 2019
- Suzanne enters a Memorium to revisit a vital night from her past.
L.A. By Night is a dark tale of personal horror and inhuman conspiracy that sees four vampires doing their best to navigate the macabre affairs and terrifying realities of the night.
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The undisputed warlord of France
I didn't know I needed this comment lol
Vannevar warned Francois about a revolution that he didn’t listen due to his hubris.
Victor warned Vannevar about a revolution that he didn’t listen to due to hubris.
History repeats
History rhymes and hubris always rhymes throughout the ages.
And Suzanne would have been there for both warnings, and ignored both. She will, also, have seen what a strong Prince looks like compared to Vannevar.
It's like poetry... they rhyme
You beat me to the George Lucas meme, Pepe. ;)
Zachary Hawley History is a poem and hubris is one of it’s many rhyming schemes
Of course the Nosferatu plays the Toreador 😂😂😂
I can't get the image out of my head of Jasper wearing this wig
He looks surprisingly good in it, wasn't sure how this will work out at the beginning but he is just phenomenal
And the Ventrue playing a Gangrel
And revolutionary brujah playing a Queen that was murdered by revolutionaries lol
B. Dave Walter as karsh; only a fool or a madman would try to make it through this place without a guide!
B. Dave Walter as Victor temple; I AM THAT FOOL!
I love the change of Vennevar.
Vennevar in 2019: Mad with a touch of Khal Drogo sense of retaliation.
Vennevar in 1787: Scare of all the things other Kindred can do and soft spoken.
I really like the actor who plays Vennevar.
same, he is my favorite character in la by night now, bryan dechart and amelia deliver us some really good performances , well besides everyone else, the standard was already really high because eveyone is awesome!
Brian Dechart and Amelia Rose Blaire are both wonderful people. They’re also married
Your the description of 1787 and 2019 seems very similar to France. I mean the yellow shirt movement is a bit Khal drogo is it not?
@@greywintergem6816 I assume you mean they are married to each other? :)
@@bartconnolly6104 You mean the 'yellow vest' movement, started over complaints about gas prices but was later co-opted by nationalists?
I'd like to start a petition for B. Dave Walters to play the next Kratos
Yeah nah Christopher Judge got that gig on lock.
@@tkschaaf7096 Oh absoluely I love Christopher Judge I just mean if they wanted to change the actor like how they changed them between the recent gow and the previous one
@Jimmy Jazz yes
So we have learned that Vannevar was once young, naive and sane, Suzanne was also once nice. Alexander Ward finally gets to play someone other than the outsider, Erica IIshi and Cynthia Marie get to be mean to people and B Dave Walters can grunt just as well as Jasper can. Great episode and it shows that being a vampire back in the early industrial era wasn't easy.
This is not the "early industrial era" this is the last stages of the renaissance.
@@josecoronadonieto6911 nope the Renaissance ended two centuries before the french revolution, these are indeed the early stages of the industrial era, this is the period known as neoclassicism, which has some similarities with the Renaissance, the reason why this is technically considered early industrial era, is because in Great Britain the first steam powered engines were being created, and the first factories were starting to appear, it would still take a couple of decades for the rest of Europe to catch up to them tho
@@krasmazov8 ª, sorrey
I actively shrieked with laughter seeing Alex as a poncy French aristocrat.
JC: "What's your goal?"
VT: ".. T- t- eh... To not.. die."
Solid gold ^_^
Fill him with gold!!
Why must you make Suzanne and Vannevar so likeable???!! I love seeing them as young and so hopeful of unlife. But last episode, I just felt bad for Vannevar. He seems just so broken now. And poor Suzanne is trying her best to keep him together. Goddammit
Point of episode... achieved lol
Might be a bit too late to the party but they are both awesome actors. They stream on a regular basis at www.twitch.tv/dechartgames and they play games/discuss things/do charitable things etc. I'd strongly encourage people to give them a free follow and enjoy the entretainment.
@@Shairkon Thats brilliant i had no idea if i ever go to twitch again il try and catch em live :D
@@hurrly9036 Doubly late, but you might also recognize Bryan Dechart from Detroit: Become Human as Connor (...the Android Sent By Cyberlife). Amelia too is a great actress in her own right; she appeared in later seasons of True Blood. The show by that point had gone to shit, but she played her small role exceptionally well.
@@MsYunaFires Thanks for the info i already knew Brian from Detroit id finished it not long before my first watch of this :)
Tzimisce? I do not know that clan.
THERE'S A REASON. 😂😂😂
And they obviously forgot the Lasombra in the meantime too. Everyone of the 13 clans knows about the other 13 clans if not a fledgeling.
Can we just point out the MASSIVE range of these actors, particularly Erika, who went from the Idealistic Revolutionarie "(Literally) Eat the Rich" Annabelle to the Self-Righteous Pompous "Let them Eat Cake" Marie Antoinette.
Even Brian had such a huge turnaround in demeanor playing the SAME character, truly amazing.
Y'all are so great!
It's the best whiplash I've had in a long time 😂
Wtf are you talking about she's still self righteous and pompous
I think we may finally have learned the identity of the vampire in torpor beneath Griffith Park
In episode 9, keep us apart, jasper was mapping the labyrinth. Beside the magic mirror, there was a name. The same as the nosferatu they meet in this episode. Its entirely possible that its that nosferatu in torpor in the labyrinth.
@@hyperchargedjt7387 Zelios, the old Nossie architect who built the Labyrinth. The Haven in which Jasper found his home in.
I mean jasper chose the loresheets for Zelios. I was reading through them before I saw this episode and I'm like ooooooooooh THATS WHO THAT NOSFERATU IS
Usually Jasper is hunched over whereas François is very upright. Alex's mannerisms are very well thought out
Alex and the cast are all so very talented at distinguishing their different characters, I feel super lucky that they are at my table!
Karsh: "I'd like to turn into an owl".
Me (*thinking*): "I activate Owl".
The only thing that would've been better is if he had landed in an expensive chair ripping it.
AND NOW FOR SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT
I adore you!
I wish to pay compliment to everybody. Francoise was very over-confident and very happy - (which is nice to see from Alexander, I never saw him smile this much before:) Marie was a Queen that wished to be more than she could and died before she could reach it - spoilt by her heritage. Karsh was brutal and loyal and fierce, ready to wage war at his masters command - the perfect hound to have at your side. Vannevar was young, naive and unexperienced, already full of fear that was yet to consume him completely. Suzanne was beautiful in all sense of the word, gentle, sensitive and kind - ready to learn new secrets from the world of night she knew so little at that point. Lucita was intimidating, ruthless, professional and in control. Jason Carl was fantastic as he always is - perfectly balancing the storytelling, the different characters and their voices and the unexpected results that might occur from rolling dices. Well done everyone and Thank you for this 'way back when' adventure:)
Adam Ceviche Francois, Francoise is the female version of the name
Another weird thing is that Lucita had a very distinct French accent, but Lucita was spanish.
@@philipearakaki idk it sounded Spanish to me. But my dumbass thinks most romance language accents sound the same. I guess she could have in orporated more of that typical Spanish lisp.
I am extremely satisfied to see that Suzanne actually cares about Vannevar. Gives them a more humane approach, and i'm going to assume that Vannevar unhingedness is because he's seeing the same kind of revolt unfold on his territory. It's actually cool to see how he grew up to be a more powerful vampire, but it's clear he still lacks self-steem and is terrified of what unlife is.
He's prolly under supernatural influence too for sure, to explode so forwardly when he was more timid and poised before. And i think i agree with forethought conclusions that both him and Victor are being played by Fiorenza.
Aaaaaand now Greg and Vannevar are my favourite characters.
My guess is that he is ensourseled by Strauss or Suzanne
@@BossALKENO And/or Therese is working Dementation on him.
@@BossALKENO or he's struggling soo hard to resist the Beckoning to the east that it's damaging his psyche. Abrams said it's hard for him to resist and he's much younger than Vannevar
It's probably a combination of resisting the Beckoning and his Beast eating away at him for the fact that others dare to not follow his lead. Remember when it happened to Victor a while back?
I guess I just like every character B.Dave plays.
Right!?
Hes so good. Whoever did the casting for this show has a rare eye for talent. I mean they all have great roles under their belt.
find his D&D games, he plays a mean dragon-god
Karsh sounds like the guy from Chrono Cross.
Omfg me too! I’m a fan
poor innocent young vannevar, interesting to see suzanne and him where they were still almost human
Yes. And to see how they forged their partnership. They lied together about Vannevar having power in the New World. I think. And it is already clear that Suzanne has the power in their relationship.
@@myri5 I think it is more involved than you assert. Suzanne could easily have dumped Vannevar for a more powerful human or vampire if power was her motivation. But 250 years later she is still with him. There obviously was more to him than power because she stood with him all the way until he claimed a Principality.
@@bartconnolly6104 Yes! Definitely. But I meant that within their relationship she seems to be the one making the decisions. Even back then, before he became all crazy
@@myri5 There is nothing wrong with a woman or a man making the decisions. So long as authority is consensual.
@@bartconnolly6104 Yea. I just thought that maybe Suzanne was like that because of Vannevar's power as a Prince and/or out of necessity since apparently lately he's been acting all weird. So I thought it neat to see that their dynamic seems to always have been like that, regardless of these things.
Also, tbh I'm not sure how consensual it is in this case. Suzanne seems just to want to help in a way, but it's hard to say what Vannevar is thinking. Especially in the modern nights, since he's so confused. So I wouldn't know if he feels like he's being used by her or what.
Well this is WoD so he's most definitely someone's puppet. But most likely so is she. And we'll probably never find out 'cause the elders operate in mysterious ways heheh.
This airheaded Marie Antoinette is hilarious in her sociopathy.
I just loved Erika this episode! So much fun to watch
Erika is sometimes accused of overacting but this was a good vehicle for her big dramatic flourishes.
@Timothy Owens
Same here....Truly
I like the way she tried to make a french accent and ended up with a indian lol
@@b_g_c3281 are you two ok
I feel Alex is loving this. He's learning the secrets Jasper is trying to discover
Well... Cynthia definitely should play lasombra... She totally nailed it. I mean that laughter... So satisfying... So neurotic!
Cynthia Marie The way that name combined with your reply
“Kill yourself thank you”
I’m dying
Figuratively
I cannot decide which stands taller: the hair or their personalities. This is sheer indulgent, historical madness, and I love it so. Also fun to see our cast getting to stretch their fangs in different roles!
V:TM usually shies away from making historical personalities vampires. Here? "Nope. Marie Antoinette was a ghoul and Francois Villon caused the French Revolution. Suck blood, historians."
Let them eat cake!...But only because the boss won't let you drink blood yet.
@@CT_Phipps Historians knew that all along. Kindred ones that is! I wonder if it was the servant or Marie went to the guillotine? It would have to be the servant as it was done in daytime and the body didn't disintegrate after beheading. ON NO WAIT! she was a ghoul not a vampire. So it could have been her.
@@ChrisGalford Actually there were no actual famines during the reign of King Louis XVI and only two incidents of serious bread shortages, which occurred, first, in April-May 1775, a few weeks before the king's coronation (11 June 1775), and again in 1788, the year before the French Revolution. Ironically despite the image painted of during the 1775 flour war Marie wrote "It is quite certain that in seeing the people who treat us so well despite their own misfortune, we are more obliged than ever to work hard for their happiness. The King seems to understand this truth."
@Jimmy Jazz Depends on what you mean by "famine" . en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_famines lists ONE in 1709 but it mentions at the time a source for eleven famines in the 18th Century . the link for this however ( French department of agriculture ) is a dead link. I found the link
www.agriculture-environnement.fr/2009/05/04/ah-le-bon-vieux-temps-des-disettes
and will correct the Wikipedia entry. the source quoted is Fernand Braudel, but no actual eighteenth century dates are given except 1709, although he gives five nineteenth century dates.
and the source says « Supposez que ce relevé soit complet et fiable (ce dont je doute), il laisse de côté les famines locales, et celles-ci, très fréquentes, surviennent presque chaque année, ici ou là », ajoute Fernand Braudel, qui note qu’avec « l’effroyable disette »
Which 1) doubts the reliability of the historical surveys and 2) mentions "local famines"
Ill go along with you though and offer a comparison . In Ireland you had the globally historically known "Great hunger" of 1845-47" and a century earlier in 1740 one probably as large in scope which hardly anyone mentions as few histories of it exist in the literature. these were country wide famines due to crop failure. the great Hunger was complicated in that it was a severe winter with rare snow several feet deep causing people to become isolated indorrs and then in the sporing to flee weak and sick to towns and cities causing mass epidemics; as well as political issues such as an unwillingness by English overlords to distribute food supplies as soaring market prices provided tempting profits elsewhere.
But there were several regional crop failures about one a decade in the early 1800s in Ireland.
I would make a similar distinction to Braudel and I was goin by another wikepedia entry on let them eat cake
"there were no actual famines during the reign of King Louis XVI and only two incidents of serious bread shortages, which occurred, first, in April-May 1775, a few weeks before the king's coronation (11 June 1775), and again in 1788, the year before the French Revolution. The 1775 shortages led to a series of riots, known as the Flour War, la guerre des farines, a name given at the time of their occurrence, that took place in the northern, eastern and western parts of France. Letters from Marie Antoinette to her family in Austria at this time reveal an attitude totally different to the Let them eat cake mentality."
Source Lettres De Marie-Antoinette (in French). 1. Nabu Press. 2012. p. 91. ISBN 978-1278509648.
Oh my, I wish Cynthia could play a Lasombra more often, she's gorgeous...not to mention her awesome outfit
Lucita would bow for a particular Assamite though,... or a Banu Haqim as they call themselves now.
She is Princess of Aragon.
And I loved her laugh. So different from Nellie's. So talented!
Awww thank you so much! 🖤
myri5 thank you dear! 🖤
Marie: "Ze peasants! Zey are revolting! ... And I don't mean like you!" *gestures to the Nossie*
The accent was not Erika's best work...
Oh god, Vannevar is... adorable!!
Victor's gangriel voice is making weird things to my spine.
Not alone.
ASMR?
@@caseyspark2019 Not so much ASMR as raw sexy.
I'm right there with you, my friend.
only your spine? ;-)
what great acting this episode, erika iishi makes a wonderful marie antoinnette, and b.dave still manages to radiate pure charisma, even playing a gangrel surrounded by toreadors ;) the role reversal with vannevar and suzanne suddenly being young, humble neonates is wonderful as well ;)
jason carl artfully dodging ever saying the word "tzimisce" so we can't learn his preffered pronounciation though ;) Fiends have plenty love of architecture; having flipped through koldun lore a while ago, i've discovered there's a polish tzimisce living in a tower made of bones (cathedral of flesh was too wet and squelchy for him, i suppose?). So, literally an Ivory Tower Fiend ;)
@bludrk returns if it's not the slavic way, then i don't want to hear it ;D
just kidding, the clan name is apparently as malleable as the flesh of its members. i had a charming player who used to pronounce it as "tzimistake". thematically appropriate.
@bludrk returns Clan weakness: 1 Spelling 2. Pronunciation
@@rateater1857 Tzimiske is a Greek name...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_I_Tzimiskes
Loving Bryan in these last few episodes - amazing commitment and range.
Also, Cynthia looks amazing as Lasombra - but kudos to the lighting team as well on that. ;)
Me after the last episode: Man VT is a cruel mad king, I can’t wait until they bring him down.
Me: after this episode. VT is baby. Must protecc.
For a sec I thought VT stands for Victor Temple.
The shift in voice and tone between B. Dave Walters and Karsh is so drastic i honestly forget its the same person when he goes back to himself and not Karsh's gravel and broken glass voice
I’m not actually caught up, just wanted to thank the cast of LA by night for helping me through a really rough patch lately. This show really brightens my day (pun intended). So thanks Mr Carl and all the rest of the cast, crew and guests for this!
*hisses at the sun pun*
good luck, mate!
Jogro Please dont by offended and I dont want you to take this the wrong way but you do realise it is a bit ironic? I mean overcoming depression or hard times by watching people reenact the starving masses of the French Revolution and then people of power when they could work to build a great world continually strive to destroy each other to satisfy their egos? And not destroy each other by saying nasty things we are talking hundres of ways to supernaturally reduce humans and even other supernatural beings to anything from hideous monsters to plain dust!
Oddly enough you remind me of an old child Psychologist I knew described a similar therapy. Say you have a child in school who is always disrupting the class by standing up and walking round their seat. You then give this behaviour to them as a task they have to do possibly as a precondition to ask a question or as a reward when they answer one.
When a negative disruption like this becomes a positive controlled chore they may end up abandoning it as a negative disruption.
By the way I respect you honesty and sincerity and hope and pray things improve for you
@@bartconnolly6104 Dude.. Jogro is vocalising their appreciation for the show and including the tiniest sliver of insight into their circumstances with which you seem to take a leap and be, well - projecting all over him. Nothing in his appreciation warrants your comparison, so maybe you should look into yourself and try to find out why you'd push a random psychological tool on a random stranger you have a minuscule amount of information on.
By the way, I respect your effort and sincerity in this, and I hope and pray things improve for you.
Lucita de Aragon? These guest appearances have been killing it for quite a while now. Also, it is kind of strange to see our regular cast in other roles, but damn, they really did show how much range all of them have. Yet another great episode.
🖤
Seeing Vannevar and Suzanne in the past *chef's kiss*. How much humanity they once had and comparing them to how they are now. They were such nice people (as nice as they could be being a kindred, that is)! Seeing how much their beasts has changed them worries me about Annabelle... she may be idealistic and humane now, but how would the centuries change her? Also, how terrifying Marie Antoinette would be as a kindred?! D: She was already a bit of a monster. Excellent acting / gaming and storytelling everyone :D Loved this episode.
Thank you very much! We weren't sure how effective the episode would be at showing this difficult contrast and suggesting what centuries of exposure to the Beast can do to a Kindred; great to know it worked. :)
ST: "There are no more servants left to serve you"
Vannevar: [smiles nervously in fledgling]
Well thats something I didn't expect - a young Vanavar who is actually concerned about "The people" warning other of the potencial thread and to take those who they dismiss seriosly... now I kind of want to know what happened that changed his way of thinking (except for aging which is certainly a factor)
Everyone's blaming everything except the one thing that is known for causing madness, of which he has had recent contact with, a malkavian.
I am Vannevar, the Vampire sent by the coterie.
@bludrk returns YAAS, I knew someone would say that!
@bludrk returns Vanevar isnt an Irish name but "top of the morning to ya" isnt an Irish phrase . It comes from early 20th century stage Irish theatre. "May the road rise with you" is an Irish phrase.
@bludrk returns i read you comment but didnt understand it because I have not seen the reference you made.
@bludrk returns I understand now. that game made over $100 million profit!
Ooohh Vannevar back when he was sane :P
Also, let them eat cake! So appropriate!
I love how both he and Suzanne are the nice friendly vampires back then.
Vannevar went off the rocks really fast.
Actually its not appropriate. The way she used it was in the modern concept of the phrase which is an ironic parody, not how it was historically used by Marie which was a statement she made showing her ignorance of the state of the people who were starving and the decadence she blinded herself with.
@@burningreach do remember that this world is different in alot of ways like Rome being built by ventrue malkavian and tornado.
2:03:43
When Francois' inner Nosferatu wants to react but the Gangrel does it for him.
2:47:30
When Karsh meta-disses Jasper and Francois has trouble not reacting.
I really liked that this time Ward was giving the orders and Walters was the deadly killer doing his bidding. Their interplay was excellent!
That was fantastic, it was very much a change in roles and I bet the actors really enjoyed it.
Walters is a horrible Metagamer. With his attitude he wouldn't last three Months in a Vampire Pen&Paper Troupe and not even a whole weekend in a Vampire Live. I don't get why Jason Carl is so forgiving with all of them shitting all over the Laws of the Night.
@@fylmriss Erm... Care to elaborate? B.Dave is probably the most humble of the players, always willing to allow others the spotlight and tries his best not to step on any toes. He's also run several of his own VtM games.
@@MsYunaFires Just read my comments.
@@fylmriss to each their own, I think Walters is fantastic in everything I've seen him in.
At this point I'm way too intoxicated by Suzanne Rochelle to even remember Willa Burrell. Amelia Rose Blaire is joy.
It's funny because you can basically show the difference between 5th Edition (gritty street level politics w/ vampires) and 2nd Edition (Marie Antoinette is a ghoul, Elders with magic axes!) with this episode alone.
How? Did they not use 5th Edition? It looks like they used 5th edition. Just home-brew anything from the previous books and lore, you will get the same thing. It's not hard and will turn out better.
@@vincereterram8150 it's less about the system and mechanics but the themes and scale
Older editions are always better. Anything is better than V5
I love all these badass Lasombra women we're getting this season!
Hi, French viewer, here. Very cool and unexpected episode. Small detail, tho : It should have been François Villon. Françoise with a final "E " is a woman's name. Pronouce France-Wah for a man, and France-waz for a woman.
Also, major nitpick there, but being from noble descent, it should have been Suzanne 'de' Rochelle, or 'de la' Rochelle.
Yes it is 'François Villon' in the books, complete with cedilla, so that's a straight-up typo. You could imagine that Suzanne might have dropped 'de la' in modern nights so as to be less conspicuous, and this may have coloured her memorium. As Jason said, it's an imperfect recollection.
@Andrew Homiak Indeed. I always saw "blonde" spelled with a final "E" in English, I didn't know that it could be "genderized". So Mr Blonde in Reservoir Dogs should have been Mr Blond (and pronounced "Blon" in French).
I love your attention to detail! Thank you for sharing.
I think Marie mentions that Suzanne wasn't a noble and was common born. She most likely only got elevated in status because of the Toreador prince.
@@NightshadeTS Due to note that surname was uncommon in France. People Start to have one after 1794. So Suzanne may note noble but she surely was from a bourgois familly. ( French viewer as welll )
Alex's performance as an old french Toreador was marvelous, hell, all of them are just a big 10/10
bleh
Dave Walters does an amazing job voicing of Karsh! I was taken by surprise when he first spoke. Great job!
He's so talented!!!!
Is it wrong I want Cynthia Marie to do a Lucita series?
C.T. Phipps awwww I’m so honored thank you! 🖤
She's more suited to Clan Lasombra than she ever was Toreador. Shes elegant, deadly, and certainly ruthless. Vivat Lasombra.
@@cynthiamarie3573 you look deadly hot as Lucita. Congrats
Actually I want a mini series of her and Abrams adventure with La Sombra in Milán 💙💙💙💙
If you're wrong, I don't want to be right.
I really liked when Suzanne tryed to have a vision during a vision , to search de answers in the future while doing so in the past. Very methodical :)
Love this episode! Vannevar & Suzanne were so human back then. ❤️❤️❤️
Also Sassper came out a couple of times! Love it!
There comes a time when the most popular mini-series starts to get comfortable in its own skin. When the writers and actors fully embrace it all and throw caution to the wind and the audience's favorite show is better for it. I think we have arrived folks. Huzzah, to Vampire The Masquerade-L.A. By Night.
Huzzah!!
Another episode with Bryan and Amelia? Yuss!
I like seeing Vannevar be fore Princehood robbed him of his humor and humility, before it stole his humanity. I'd love to explore his story more.
Likewise. I'm hoping we can do more Memorium stories in the future.
...and by the end of the story he's filling transgressors with gold.
This was a stellar episode. It's only downside was that Suzanne's and Vannevar's tale has begun to interest me almost more than the coterie's.
Also, Cynthia Marie pretty much nailed it as Lucita de Aragon, and B. Dave Walters was excellent as Karsh - even without his signature lion's mane :D
@Timothy Owens they are the most realistic representation of what a kindred would be like in their first years while their humanity is still nearly intact thanks in no small part by having a connection, however tenuous, with their still living family and friends of their prior life. Hell, Nossies in general are well known for being very generous and protective of the poor and dejected members of humanity. Give it a century or two, and some or even all of them might actually become sociopaths.
I agree. I find myself more interested in Vannevar and Suzanne's story line - with Garrick and Ib, also!
Old Ventrue are very powerful because of that combination of Presence + Dominance as well as resistance to physical and mental attacks with Fortitude.
But when they are neonates, they do have it hard against other Vampires.
Of COURSE the Prince of Paris was a Toreador
Loving some of the side stories this season.
Question for folks after the episode:
Is anyone else convinced that Zellios must have come to America as he planned and built Jasper's tunnels?
It's a shame the Bone Gnawers kicked his ass. The black furies would be just as appropriate.
I mean the Loresheet says he disappeared beneath NY. Who says he couldnt have happened upon such a thing and ended up in L.A. at some point.
@@Nairneh remember things aren't as they appear. The leeches think that Toreador created Minotaur. The pretty one starting a clan that's a mix of gangrel and Nosferatu. Which she didn't.
Maybe he is the one who lies lifeless with his throat cut open
@@sombreroalien5121 Oooo I hope we find out!
Zelios!!!
I love it. You can the Nosferatu out of Alex, but you can't take Alex out of the Labyrinths.
I can’t believe we’re getting such a big lore session and the main coterie isn’t even involved..oh lord am I excited to see the ripples of this in the main story.
Oh, the perfect irony of it ... sitting there despondent in a puddle of his own piss drinking from a bottle of ... Broken Spirits. Bravo, Geek & Sundry, Bravo!
It's this attention to detail that makes LA By Night a joy to watch each week and Jason Carl remains an inspiration for all Storytellers.
Jason: When will we reveal the fate of Jasper Heartwood....also, next week we'll do that.
Me: *screams into the void*
I've been freaking completely out for a week and now there's another one?! Aaaaagh!
can feel you there
Is that a shiver of antici-
@@animistchannel2983 SAY IT! SSSAAAYYY IIITTT!
@UFHoee It may be filler but it supplies a valid reason for Vanevar not to kill Jasper, and for the coterie to get IB to part with some Lascombra rituals.
@UFHoee Oh I don't view it as filler at all. It depicts how team Camarilla use *their* key assets (notably age, experience and long memories) to get level with team Anarch on knowledge of what might be going on underneath Griffith Park.
OMG!!! I LOVED CYNTHIA AS LUCITA DE ARAGON!!!
darkcloud ahhh! THANK YOU! 🥰🖤
Being presented with an ad is so funny when watching something as dramatic as VtM.
"Come... walk with me in the dark."
"STOUFFER'S LASANGA HAS 2X THE CHEESE OF THE LEADING LASANGA."
B. Dave Walters, as Karsh, was THE highlight of this episode for me. Man, I love you as Victor and you killed it as Scary Gangrel as well!
Oh gosh, when did Vannevar turn from a sweetheart to a nutcase? Is this just something that normally happens over centuries of Kindred living, or is this just something more closely tied to his title in San Fransisco, and his would-be title in LA?
the weight of centuries does not always go well for Kindred, and some can descend into madness like Vannevar without having to be of Clan Malkavian
The contrast is quite surprising - I made that comment when he was playing up his chemistry with Suzanne, but as the bodies pile up and the "dear lord what have I stepped in" look grows stronger, I can't help but compare with both the gibbering lunatic in "Play the Devil" but also the smug, contemptuous Prince of LA back in Elysium.
Staying sane is the challenge for immortal beings. Fights with Malkavians could give you derangements, culture shock after a long torpor being out of touch with the world, being bored because you seclude yourself in a fortress, being too paranoid because you involve yourself with kindred politics, seeing stuff that doesn't naturally fit in the world, realizing that you're one those unnatural things, the list goes on.
@@VandalAudi and losing and losing and losing...
I'm guessing he's also fighting against the Beckoning. Trying to maintain his territory and not up and leaving like so many elders have in recent times.
30:56 "I bow to no one" :D sold XDD
1:28:19 awesome pictures
2:08:52 Love Lucita XD
A video about the French Revolution with no oversimplified references? There’s a tax for that.
Edit: also, does Walters Karsh give anyone else a Khal Drogo vibe?
Ye face paint give that vibe, but what i liked most is his
metaphors
@@michaellistov8493 He gives me more like the Alexios vibe from AC Odyssey or an Elder Ezio Auditore. Love his portrayal.
I think revolutions don't happen when khal drogo is so much as in the same nation :D
As a Lasombra player, I've had chills when the ghoul announced Lucita de Aragon. Seeing Cynthia Marie playing her was incredible.
I love how when the humans walk in to see the carnage on the ground Franciose has a smile on his face and when he said "Keep it together." it was perfect.
2:14:05 "Thank you for the ride... ah... the lift.... ah... the help." Spoken like a true time traveller.
Cynthia is KILLING IT as a Lasombra! Seems to suit her more than her Toreador character tbh.
X: "Okay now smile for the camera Jasper!"
Jasper: 1:30:51
X: "Beautiful smile!" :D
I read about memorium once and instantly thought that it was a very interesting idea that I would probably never experience through play. Little did I know that I would watch it done pro style!!!
Thank you for the amazing episode once again, guys! Jason, we never had a chance!! For doing what you do, THANK YOU!!! You are a G R E A T storyteller. Keep it up with your amazing crew ;)
Getting a nosferatu to play a toreador.
BRILLIANT!
Jason set Erika up so perfectly for the let them eat cake and I was so worried she was going to let it pass but I should've known better
I now have a theory about Zelios and Jasper. It seems to be a given Zelios is the Nos in the labyrinth. Zelios is an architect, Jasper before he was embraced was studying architecture,and also had an interest in the occult. He is now mapping the labyrinth because it aligns well with his knowledge and interests. Maybe Zelios saw potential in Jasper to be a successor and carry on his work.
omg baby vannevar is every stressed college student ever!
When the Nos announced himself as Zelios I couldn't help but hear the Stelio Kontos theme from American Dad
Man, seeing Cynthia as Lucita made me REAL hyped for getting up-to-date and seeing NY by Night ❤️
:O Prince François Villon is 5th generation.
:O He's a childe of Helena.
It was awesome how Alex Ward remembered that Francois habitually lies about his age. "Oh yes, I was there at Carthage." He's like 200 years old here.
@@CT_Phipps he was embrace in 1230, he wasn't 200 years old, he was more than 500 for the time of the french revolution
@@CT_Phipps closer to 500, Francois was turned in 1230 and this is 1789 after all.
You mean Helena of Chicago By Night fame?
@MathanSaralonde oh, that is such an awesome call-back. I loved story-telling Chicago by Night.
I absolutely loved the photoshoot during the break. Those photos were great and it looked like all the cast had a lot of fun.
Yes I only wish Eva and the Valkyries had appeared too.
Erika as Marie is such an irritating brat it almost makes me smile to know that she never got that embrace she wanted so badly.
The cast are all great roleplayers.
I'm a relatively new viewer. My only experience is the bloodlines video game and watching this series. I just wanted to say I have newfound respect for all of these people as actors. This episode in particular has been an absolute joy. I'm not a huge Annabelle fan as I think she is a hypocrite, talking about consent but taking it from others, stirring the fire of rebellion with no plan, and using Victor's resources to solve problems she creates. But to see her play a completely different character gives me so much admiration for her skills. I would love to see more historical episodes that allow these talented people a chance to demonstrate their abilities.
Cynthia and B Dave absolutely slayed in their roles!! Pure talent !! Thank you for your work, Vamily !!
Walters as Karsh is a banger!
Erika’s portrayal of Marie Antoinette makes me understand the French public’s need for revolution.
If you live for centuries there will always be new mistakes to make. Also “congratulations you touched death” that was gold right there
What a neat episode, everyone getting to play outside their normal character. Alexander is great and I'm so glad B Dave and Cynthia got in on it.
That servant is smart. Karsh is a scary dude.
There is a hypothesis that Karsh appeared to be less intelligent than he was to manipulate everybody.
That he was seen as just a warrior and nothing more, an almost indestructible war machine that only served to fight (Protean 8, Celerity 7, Fortitude 7).
But in the shadows he acquired power and influence. Not only in the Camarilla in which he obtained the # 2 position but also with another alias (alan-Aajav) in the Sabbat where he was also #2.
Karsh just loves murdering people. It's his thing. He's smart enough to keep the war going so he has plenty of people to murder.
Hmm. Of course I'm just learning now that these characters are actually part of the white wolf lore...
Until another Gangrel and my boi Bell put a end to him.
I have to admit, watching these has gotten me in the mood for my current Vampire game that I am a part of.
Watching this makes me even angrier that half my group ditched 🙄
I love seeing every new character these actors step into, especially Erika! Marie is such a complete 180 from Annabelle, and she plays her so well! Its also so interesting to see Bryan and Amelia play the same characters centuries younger, in a completely different world. Their quiet, revering wonder and awe at Francoise is such a great contrast to their current, arrogant and overextended selves. Its like BossALKENO says, Vannevar couldn't learn from Francoise's mistakes, and once again history will repeat (that is, if our coterie comes out of this victorious)
While 'Let the eat cake' is the commonly thought about phrase, it is actually an incorrect translation. It should be 'Let them eat brioche' or 'Qu'ils mangent de la brioche'. Also, if I remember correctly from what I was taught, there is no actual proof Marie Antoinette actually ever said those words.
Other then that, loving this episode and would absolutely love to see more of Karsh. So much different from Victor.
Jason Carl has somehow crafted what I can only deem as the best "prequel" I've ever seen. I hate prequels but was enthralled by the cast's performances, Erica's adorable accent, and the way Jason Carl tied this into the modern nights like an Antediluvian working his schemes across the centuries.
Thank you very much. Whenever we try new ideas in the show we are never sure that they will work, so it's great to know when they do!
Jason Carl I am learning never to doubt your storytelling. Can't wait to see what happens next (although technically we have to)!
@@Mr._Matt that's very kind! I make mistakes like any storyteller, but fortunately my players are very forgiving. :)
@@JasonCarl well the viewers love it
Amelia was so excellent in True Blood- I was so happy to see her return to a vampire role in LA By Night. She is really talented!
Such a good episode. The costumes, the atmosphere.. so good! The cast killed it!
It's official, Cynthia Marie is gorgeous in all timelines 😍
Fun thing I noticed: B Dave doesn't take ownership of Karsh like he does Victor. When Victor does something, he uses first person language, but Karsh is always third person
KARSH and LUCITA!!! Wow. plus the intonation of Karsh. OMG.
I love Dave Walter's interpretation of Karsh and Nelli playing Lucita. Maybe I am just edgy but those character are very cool to me.
Hon hon hon intensifies