Is TAYLOR SWIFT the BEST artist of the decade?
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- Опубліковано 14 вер 2021
- @TaylorSwiftre-recorded her original music so that she owned the rights to her masters. In this episode, we listen to the two versions, both Taylor's version of Love Story and the original recording, and see what the difference is. Can you spot the difference between the two recordings?
I'm Jack Conte the CEO of @Patreon and one-half of the bands @ScaryPockets and @Pomplamoose.
Joining me today are 3 of my best musician friends;
Ryan Lerman, a professional guitarist the other half of @Scarypockets
Theo Katzman, multi-instrumentalist and member of the band @Vulf
Arianna Powell, a professional guitarist who has worked with Halsey and Black Eyed Peas.
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Love Story original recording:
• Taylor Swift - Love Story
Love Story, Taylor's version:
• Taylor Swift - Love St...
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We also feature other music in this video which we will link to below.
The music we discussed;
Sheryl Crowe - If it makes you happy
• Sheryl Crow - If It Ma...
Eliot Smith - Memory Lane
• Memory Lane
Shania Twain - Man I feel like a woman
• Shania Twain - Man! I ...
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I didn’t see you mention the musicians in this, she brought back the original fiddle player and original background vocalist for the re-recording. Then she brought in her touring band for the rest, most of them have been with her since Fearless or shortly thereafter so they’re the only people who’ve played this album as much as she has. It’s crazy how much detail she put into the whole album, she does nothing half way.
Listening to Jake and Ryan disagree on the minor-ness of the pre-chorus is exactly what I love seeing from y'all - don't be afraid to have those convos and leave them in for the future! Love seeing that difference in thought in the granular.
That's the beauty of analysis, nothing is wrong as long as you can back it up but doesn't mean that everyone will agree with it
Came to comment this exact thing. Reminds me of the arguments I have with my friends.
I was never really into Taylor but I'm so impressed with her pushing back on an industry that has screwed musicians over for so long. I'm hoping more musicians take her lead and avoid being screwed by the horrible toxic big players in the Music Industry. Again, thanks for teaching me something new. Love your work.
You don't have to mention you were not into her but.... 🤣😆
@@bora3.14 so true it's like a fashion to hate on Taylor for no reason.
👍🤣👍
I can listen to her stuff now
It's mostly based on what contract they signed in the beginning of her career. She signed with Big Machine when she was only 14 years old not realizing she won't be entitled to master recording. She is entitled to the composition of the songs but the original sound recording of the songs belongs to the record label. It's kind of similar to a movie star don't own the movie they stared in, the movie company does.
She also could purchase her masters in hard cash but it would be a poor investment because those albums been out for over decades and most fans already owned her songs already. It's far cheaper to rerecord all her old songs. She also made millions from those old master albums and continue to get royalties from the old masters recording. It's not as much as if she own the masters.
I do believe it was a master move not just by rerecording her old albums because most rerecording don't do well compared to the original. But the master move was bringing this whole controversy about how she is fighting the music industry, fighting artist right and fighting her old record label Big Machine. It was a perfect marketing ploy to get all her fans to repurchase all the albums they already own and hit record sales.
What's funny she is far richer than her old record label Big Machine. Her net worth is over double the amount her old recording label Big Machine was sold for.
Checking with Taylor Swift history she always been a master marketer. Every high profile news about her always comes with a hit album sales.
19 y-o Taylor: A girl who was in the midst of her story, as she's living it.
31 y-o Taylor: A woman remembering her past, as she's recounting it.
It feels a bit like Joni Mitchell's "Both Sides Now", both her original recording and then her decades later.
“Taylor is the new Paul McCartney” is a sentence that makes me want to cry tears of joy because they’re both my favorite artists of all time! Her name has been being brought up in the same conversations as him a lot lately and it makes me so happy, haha! At first I was bummed you were doing Love Story because even though it’s a huge hit for her, I feel like it’s over saturated and her deep cuts are often better than her singles meant for radio and I would love to hear your opinions on some of those BUT I was actually so satisfied with this episode. 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼
She’s not even the “new” Paula Abdul (who at least can dance) lol
@@JohnLnyc uhm, yea Paula Abdul is a great performer and dancer but I’m not sure what that has to do with anything when we’re discussing Taylor and Paul, who are two of the most prolific songwriters of their respective generations….
those words make me cry for different reasons lol
Not to bring the mood down but taylor is no paul mccartney. The closest to paul mccartney there is today is kanye west in terms of music and discography. They even collaborated together on three songs most notably four five seconds.
I like taylors music but shes never made experimental/alternative music like revolver sgt peppers or the white album. Shes more like paul simon or joni Mitchell than paul mccartney
@@earphonemania5657 on behalf of Paul Simon, pls retract his place in your argument. yes Taylor Swift does not belong in the conversation with McCartney, but neither does she belong in the conversation with Simon. Dude wrote Mrs. Robinson and Sounds of Silence. Kanye, eh
To me, the original sounds aspirational (the day dream of a teenage girl). The remake sounds more like reminiscence (she married the love of her life and is looking back now that the kids are grown). It all comes down to vocal performance.
Had no plans to buy a Taylor album today but here we are....
I recommend checking her albums 'folklore' and 'evermore' which she released both of them in 2020. These albums are much less pop and more vibey/folky/slow albums with great lyrics.
Her album Reputation is The Album 🤌🏻
@@rloyBB Indie music has been around for decades, if you just discovered your problem, idolize
@@rosanaconta3416 they didnt say they discovered it now, you are commenting in everyones comments
@@rosanaconta3416 oh my god where did they say that they 'discovered' indie music after folklore?!
Arianna used to teach at my favorite guitar shop in Pittsburgh, PA! It's amazing how successful she has become! Great panel and great discussion people.
Rock on!
Y'all GOTTA bring Theo back! It's so fun watching him have so much fun.
He's a legend!
@@DeadWaxShow Theo wants to get down to the Steely Dan
I’m inclined to agree with Ryan - it doesn’t feel minor to me. There are definitely minor chords there but it feels more like an in key build than a transition to the relative minor. Regardless of what we call it, it’s a great pre chorus!
How can y'all be a professional musicians and not listening to folklore and evermore lol it's literally some of her best work. My guitar teacher literally learn how to play the entire songs from folklore and evermore to teach us in class.
Maybe because they're not impressed?
@@JaeLee83 they said that there have "not" yet listen to the majority of her songs and they heard the SINGLES only
@@JaeLee83 Lmao you can't be serious about "musicians" not being impressed by folklore & Evermore. What an embarrassing thing to say
@@idontevenhaveapla7224 Embarrassing for you since I am a musician myself!
@@JaeLee83 I mean, a real musician or serious musician, should have the capacity to recognize whether or not it's a good piece of art, whether it matched your taste or not, folklore & Evermore, are indeed impressive pieces of art, and I have to say, I didn't love every song from evermore but even when it didn't match my taste, I knew from hearing the songs, that they were great, if you can't recognize how good those albums are, you still need to grow as a musician
Love what you said about the emotional impact of the newer version. And it’s good to know a soulless suit isn’t stealing from the artist for this version!
I appreciate the discussion about over-compression and the look at the waveforms. The first thing I noticed in the comparison was that the new version is "louder." I wish we were over that already.
Yeah, but the new version also sounds sonically better for a lot of other reasons besides being louder. The old one sounds so muffled in comparison. It's like someone took the lid off it in the new one.
@@rome8180 That "muffled" sound is actually your "ear" having been trained to process music with high dynamic compression, struggling to process the nuance that derives from the natural, uncompressed mix. It's all there your minds ear has just been trained not to be able to hear it.
@@GaryJames864 I'm an engineer. I'm also 40 and grew up in an era without as much compression. I'm not a product of the digital age. It's more low mids and less air, in my opinion. More compression can influence that, but it's also an EQing thing. My "ear" is quite used to all levels of compression, but nice condescending theory.
Hello, I'd like to bring to everyone's attention that everyone is wrong here. The original is actually louder, not sure where the folks behind the video got their audios but the original is -3.97db LUFS and the new version is -4.31db LUFS
Loving this conversation!!!
I wasn't a TS fan until folklore (what an album! Then I listened Reputation for the first time ever and I loved it too, I mean, I Did Something Bad, Don't Blame Me and Getaway Car are masterpieces!! ... and theeeen evermore came out and OMG, so good as well, wth xD)
Indie music has been around for decades, if you just discovered your problem...
@@rosanaconta3416 where does they say they disvcovered it now( nothing wrong with that)nor says that ts invente it, they just say they love thr albums
@@rosanaconta3416 see this is why reading comprehension is very important
Yes.. I discovered her music about a year ago. She is a melodic genius. You should definitely get 1989 .. it's a Masterpiece, chock full of gorgeous melodies. Red is brilliant and so is Speak Now.
@@zx7-rr486 I liked half of 1989 :B and I liked Red T.V (I wasn't a huge fan of the original, BUT I loooved All Too Well inmediately) but now I'm constantly listening State of Grace, Begin Again, The Last Time, Holy Ground, Come Back... Be Here, Girl At Home, Babe, Nothing New (Phoebe! 💖) and I Bet You Think About Me :)
What Taylor does is extremely difficult but she makes it sound simple. She'll be respected in due time.
I think it’s safe to say she’s respected 🧐😅
LOVE this kind of analysis. If you're ever worried that you're nerding out too much about the tiny little details when you're recording this don't worry, there are fans like me that eat it up!
I can't get enough...I need to hook this shit up to an IV and get it straight in to my veins....
Also I thought about what ya'll are doing with this and was wondering if you'd consider doing a throughline from an old tune to a new tune. As in draw a line that connects an older song that's influenced a newer one. I think it would be fun....
Great suggestion!
I'm in my seventies, and I have never seen anyone like Taylor Swift. I was 12 when the Beatles came around, and it was huge. But Taylor is already one of the biggest stars ever. She is a phenomenal woman with multiple talents and interests. She is so special. She is the brightest star on the planet. 🎉
Theo's "Modern Johnny Sings" was the masterpiece of last year and NEEDS a professional reaction!!!
I love how your commentary isn't about what's 'popular' or 'critically good' how no matter what you talk about it's about THE MUSIC. I love you guys, keep it up!
can we all appreciate that this is how deep you can go into a SINGLE SONG from Taylor's discography? Props to everyone in the video and Taylor and her team.
This was professional expertise with excitement, combined with admiration for the source of the whole conversation. Loved it!
This is so cool!!! thank you for doing this. btw, just fyi, with the re-recordings Taylor brought all of her band who recorded the Fearless album in 2008, back to record the re-recording. some of them have actually been with her ever since the beginning like Amos Heller and Paul Sidoti. that made me want more of you reacting to Taylor's other work like folklore and evermore! because these albums are considered some of her best ever.
Is there a chance you'll be willing to do more Taylor reactions? cause her recent albums are way more mature and less pop. her singles are usually the worst songs on her albums. her deep cuts are much better.
Once again - killed it guys. I can't help but but love what you're doing and how much you seem to be genuinely enjoying yourselves, it's really coming through.Taylor is indeed a badass boss to do the re-recording and release of her catalouge to own it all, a brilliant move.
what a great video! By far my favourite you have done so far. Giving the video the breathing room to include more discussion, even if I don't "get" all of it, feels much more natural and more like the 'friends talking' vibe I love of this channel
Iconic song. Diamond eligible. This song introduced me to Taylor then till now.
Such a fun reaction with Theo getting so hyped and Jake and Ryan debating over the pre chorus, didn't understand half of what you were saying for that bit. I feel like my understanding of the different elements of songs, music production and musical terms is slowly building with each video you release and giving me a greater appreciation of the songs I listen to in my own time so thanks for that! Was so cool hearing the different sections of both versions back to back to highlight the differences, what a great artist she is. Would love to hear you break down some music from twenty one pilots
This is quickly becoming my favorite channel. Geeking on every type of song is soooooo awesome!! Thank you for this content!!!
Loved the format and the extra deep dive on this one! Great job and thanks for these!
You guys were wondering how old she was She was 18 when the song came out but she said she wrote it when she was 16
My first time seeing your channel and I love it! Such wonderful discussions and I'm a huge taylor fan which is what brought me here so I would love to see you guys reacting/ dissecting more from her. I would've loved to see what you all thought about the key change in the final chorus but great video!
What a great conversation. I love the greater analysis that you bring in contrast to the usual reaction shtick. The chat about motifs has a real parallel to the trad Scottish and Irish music world where chord choices and substitutions can make a huge difference to the feel of a tune.
Best video yet!!! Keep this direction - love how specific you guys are getting here!
I’m loving this sort of analysis and discussion. I wanna see more esp Taylor ones.
This new series is awesome, and I loved all the different dimensions of musical comparison in this one especially. I also love how you take the time to explain things like "chasing the demo" and concepts in music theory and production.I have a degree in music and still appreciate the explanations at times, it makes the show so much more accessible to those who aren't as musically trained!
! You should consider reacting to "Freedom" or "I Need You" by Jon Batiste !
listening to your point of view as musicians made me more excited for the next re-recordings! love the video so much.
Since y’all said you only know the singles, would you ever do a full album reaction? Maybe before the re-recording of red and speak now come out you can react to the old versions. It may not be possible logistically because there’s 4 of you and you analyze not just react but it’s just a thought because it’s sort of become a meme in the swiftie fandom that she always chooses the least impressive but still amazing songs for singles so reacting to those would be cool. Or maybe just the 3 most streamed non singles from each album would be cool.
In line with what you are all saying about Taylor's re-recording offering a more adult view of love, Taylor's core audience (assuming it's made up of mostly people in her age range) has matured right along with her, so this audience is listening from the more grown up perspective that Taylor is bringing to new re-recorded songs. Once again, she is connecting with her audience, this time through the perspective of nostalgia, and by singing through the lens of more experience with the wonder and pain of love.
This is my first time listening to Professional Musicians React . I love this type of analysis. I subscribed immediately.
Best episode yet! I would have been curious how the modulation to E in the final chorus sounds in both versions.
You guys gotta hear her Wildest Dreams (Taylor's Version) released just hours ago.
That was an awesome video guys. Thank you. I love how you breakdown the definition of some of the detailed musical information . Cheers.
omg i love this reaction, i hope you can do more taylor!!! 🥺 i feel like you’d really enjoy folklore and evermore.
If you haven't heard that much of her records you could do a reaction to her most recent albums folklore and evermore or to her best (in my opinion) Reputation, which has more production.
You are awesome guys! Thank you for this great talk!
Theo's level of hype is just infectious
Please thank Kelly Clarkson for the suggestion for Taylor to re-record her old albums! My favorite is "Speak Now", so I can't wait to hear Taylor's version of that album!
I'm pretty sure she already thought about that, before Kelly mentioned it
Jack, Awesome sauce man. A few thoughts since there is alot here already. I love the cut aways where you explain, I would guess the majority of viewers have interest in music but not the vocabulary or theory. If not a cut away, then the odd quick explanation for why the "4 over the dominant chord" is good/bad/whatever. I have loved that you pick interesting songs (September!! Wow, had no idea what was in that) so assume you will keep doing that. What about a series of episodes where you compare eras (80's vs. 90s) and explain not only the style and or composition changes but the recording techniques that came onto the scene (like analog vs digital). Also, you could track a band and it's growth through their career (U2? or even something like Ed Sheeren "A Team" to "Bad Habits"). I think you could explain production and song writing to us under these themes!!
2:18 Brilliant. The separation of music into its 2 roots is the one thing no one gets and it's the first thing I explain when I work with new, young artists.
Thanks for sharing this in a fun way, Jake!
Okay I’ve been waiting for a Taylor reaction for so long thank you but please do more of her stuff
It’s so cool to see you guys celebrate her greatness!! I loved this!
Never enjoyed Taylor Swift's work, never took the time to discover it, but LOVED your session !!
Love the way she takes back her own compositions and re-build her career alone and stronger than ever. Kudos to her !
Thanks for bringing more than just musical opinions, it's great !
Take care.
This whole video gave me chills. Thank you som much for doing this series.
I absolutely love these reaction videos!! As someone who listens to music her whole life, I learn a lot of new things about composition and other concepts. It makes me listen to songs differently. If I can make a suggestion I would like to see you react to Panic! at the Disco (maybe old vs. new albums?) or My Chemical Romance.
We'd love to see more Taylor content from this channel 💓
This was incredible! Now that you guys have covered some early taylor it would be awesome to see you react to something more recent like folklore or evermore to really see her evolution as a writer :)))
Loving these videos guys… keep it up!! Would love to see ye break down some classic Freddie and Queen, live track maybe??
I love how my dude is just open and vulnerable with how this music is affecting him! Thank you bro
Man I can't wait to meet Theo one day...
Also get Stratton on, that'll be tons of fun
Her birthday is in December. So, she was 18 when it came out. But she was 16 when she wrote it.
Ps: her singles are usually not "it" by the way. The album tracks are consistently wayyyyy better, and I mean wayyyyyy better.... like there's no comparison between ME!(don't even ask us why tf did she do that) & cruel summer or Afterglow. Also, she has an entirely self-written album. So, yeah she writes her stuff herself.
Edit: oh, you mentioned her birthday.
For real, her singles don't even get in my top 50 of her songs probably. Her albums are full of hidden gems, especially as a songwriter.
I really enjoyed this discussion and my God, Theo's voice (will need to check put his band)... Thank you to the hosts for being so professional and lovely. I would personally love more Taylor Swift content, specifically maybe diving into folklore and evermore, her newest albums. They are exquisite.
Vulfpeck is amazing, and if you aren't a funk person Theo's solo albums are great too
Indie music has been around for decades, if you just discovered your problem...
my new favorite channel. I can listen you guys argue or talk about music all day. Taylor, the queen of the quill. I only gotten into Taylor after folklore and now realized i've been missing out. I also watched your reaction to Olivia Rodrigo's singles. would love to see you react more to her Sour album.
That was awesome. Great analysis, loved all aspects of it. I’m gonna go look and see if you’ve got more Taylor now…
You guys (being professional musicians) bring something different to the reaction scene on UA-cam! Please do more :)
omg i love this!!! please do more of taylor :)
God I love this. Thank you Jack and co!!!
Love these videos!! A reaction to the new Yebba record would be cool
I love this! The only downside about this channel is that I have been here from the beginning, so I can´t just binge a bunch of episodes.
wow so much insight and new knowledge! love this
I loved this video ❣️ tnxu guys
please listen to more of her songs!! i loved watching this episode, and i think folklore & evermore are really great choices (or honestly her entire discography haha)
Sooo do you guys all have perfect pitch?
I love watching your videos and you transform the way I listen to music!
loved this!! tho i couldn't understand most of ur technical talkings, it was fun watching😅. you guys have to react to wildest dreams taylor's version, her latest re-release.
would you do Red? All Too Well, Begin Again, Treacherous (when Tay’s version is out) and also Cornelia Street and august and tolerate it omg do her entire catalogue is what I’m basically saying i am just geeking out about this
Yo when you guys did the whole song (old vs. tswift ver) i got massive chills. It's like she's singing together with her younger self :(
My favourite artist ever! I confess I was anxious about which song you'd choose. But this is perfect!
Hi Jack n crew, great video as usual. My question is what happens if the arrangement belongs to another writer. So would you in fact be doing an alternate version of the first recording of your song as you now have your own new arrangement. And, yes, the previous arrangement would not have been a work for hire.
You should react to Taylor swift making of reputation, so you could see how she makes her incredible songs! Or to her folklore long pond studio sessions, that is where she explained each song on her album folklore which was a major storytelling album. LOVE THIS VIDEO BTW!!
The long pond documentary is soooo good
If you want to cry to a Taylor Swift song, listen to August or All Too Well
this was really interesting, feel like I learned a lot so thank you ^_^
This whole format points the way to how education can change for the better. I started to compare this to my Music 101 class in college. Old outdated classroom set up and a professor with low enthusiasm. Versus all the energy and love of craft apparent with all of you. You could be discussing Mary had a little lamb and I would want to pay attention. Your side explanations are awesome. I have learned more about music production than I thought possible. Screw overpriced worthless college classes. This is real teaching. Thank you and keep producing.
would love to see you guys do more of taylor's stuff, folklore would be a great start considering it's her best work to date.
I love the new recordings, sounds warmer. I am doing the same thing, I made an album in 2007 and I will absolutely re-record it just for fun. Also you gotta make a video about the new ABBA songs. 🤘
First time I heard 15 my jaw dropped. The line ''When you're 15 somebody tells you they love you you're gunna believe it'' is powerful.
More of this please! I think we're mostly music nerds here. It's definitely just in D the whole time though.
Nice to hear you give Taylor the kudos she deserves. Fun episode.
Hello, long long loooong time swiftie here. I thought I'd share some background on how Taylor came to write Love Story.
Basically, she wrote this song when she was 18 after she brought a guy she liked home to meet her parents and they disapproved of him. She was so upset that she compared the situation to Romeo and Juliet only instead of writing her story into a tragedy, she wrote it with a happy ending. She wrote the song on her bedroom floor in 20 minutes. Basically, the song has always been rebellious. Originally the song was written to stick it to her parents and now the song is one to stick it to her old label. It's still one of her top selling singles to date.
It was really awesome to hear you guys talk about the song in such depth. You guys earned a subscription from me! I'm going to go watch your other videos now!
She was so dramatic 😂
@@kristelpi652 yea right? So extra hahaha 🤣😅🥰
You guys are the best. More taylor please 🥺
i would love for you to do more of taylors song especially from folklore or evermore, her latest albums
Just the fact that she did this new version shows how awesome she is. Thank you so very much Ms. Swift!⚘️❤️⚘️❤️
Love your channel. As a nonprofesional listener, I get to understand more on my fav songs👍👍. Would love to hear your thoughts on folklore ✌
one of my favourite changes between the original version and taylor's version of love story is there's a little guitar slide (i think that's the right word?) right before the key change in taylor's version that wasn't there in the original. it makes the key change ten times better and never fails to give me goosebumps.
Ooh, do Teenage Dirtbag by Wheatus, they too have recently re recorded it for similar reasons (so they own their own masters and have stems which were deleted). It'd be interesting to hear your thoughts, they totally nailed it in some ways and there are other things which are noticeably different. And some interesting points in the rock/hip hop mix. Could compare the relative success of the re recording to this Taylor Swift track.
As ever, great vid guys 😊
i don't know why but this is the best reaction to Taylor I've ever seen. I so love this
Thankful to find a channel geared towards a wide audience that isn't afraid to go deep in the music theory weeds. To those of us who know music theory well, it's a very satisfying way to break down a song.
Damn! We need more TS contents. 🥰❤️
Not a Taylor Swift fan, but you guys make everything so interesting and fun. 20:25 Ryan had me cracking up!!
A react session about sheryl crow would be also awesome 💜 I adore your content on this chanel!
Best indepth analysis ever doneee.
there’s something so beautiful about 31y old taylor singing songs 18y old taylor wrote about being young and looking for true love, not specifically talking ab love story but it’s as if in the original recordings she’s dreaming about having a fairytale ending and in taylor’s version she’s looking back at those thoughts after having found the true love she dreamed of having when younger