Growing organic fruits in unheated greenhouses in cold climate
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- Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
- Growing a large variety of organic fruits in unheated greenhouses, beyond climatic limitations. Also an invitation to a sustainable project worldwide, which will allow us to grow an unprecedented abundance of delicious and organic fruits everywhere in the world, by sharing and implementing everything that we know right now in this domain, and by improving it further through our joint efforts.
God Bless You, Mr. Bostan! You shine the light in the darkness of the world where people gave away their rights to big ag and you illuminate the path to those who are seeking...
Thank you! It is important indeed to know there is an affordable low-tech solution for growing delicious organic fruits beyond our local cold climate conditions.
Miss seeing your fruit forest. Have a blessed 2024!
Thank you! May our dreams of beautiful and delicious fruit orchards become reality all over the world!
For anyone interested, here are the improvements I would make: You have greenhouse film on the outside of the roof, I would add that on the inside, as well. The winter low-roof would be the third layer, but you can add a fourth layer a few inches or centimeters below or above the existing winter low-roof. Stainless steel sheets are about $10 for a square meter, and I would get a few dozen and coat them with polyurethane as a varnish/lacquer, and optionally with spray-bottle mirror gloss (before the polyurethane), so they don't rust (even stainless steel rusts, just slower), then I would use wooden or metal supports to get the metal sheet mirrors to reflect sunlight onto the greenhouse. Plus6Zoones or even Plus8Zoness greenhouse are achievable.
Interesting idea, I wonder if covering cheap plywood with space/emergency blanket material could also work
This is such a perfect way to garden fruit trees. I live in zone 7 and would love to do this on my property. In these times we are all going through this is perfect. You've done an amazing job and I for one am paying attention.
I am very glad you like this way of growing fruit trees and grapevines. In climate zone 7, with a thermal-efficient unheated greenhouse, you can create a real 'fruit paradise'... I wish you best success!
Thank you for your passion and message. I hope to see the Greenhouse prototype.
We are currently building a greenhouse prototype with an organic farmer in Quebec, which should be completed in the next month, and I will then prepare an update video.
I want to be on the list to buy one of these greenhouses as soon as they are available. I love your ideas and will spread the word to everyone I know. Thank you so much for your ideas You are helping change the world. I am in the San Juan Islands in Washington state.
Thank you so much for your kind thoughts - which reflect your deep understanding of our need for, and benefits from a thermo-efficient unheated greenhouse! And also thank you very much for your intention to "spread the word" - which is the most important gesture at this initial stage, for the success of this sustainable project, which is meant to benefit everyone interested!
I also retain with gratitude your personal interest in this greenhouse and promise to keep you closely updated on the preparation of the coming "prototype". Many thanks once again!
Hello, I just published a new video that will answer all the greenhouse construction questions:How I built the Plus4Zones unheated greenhouse
& the organic and sustainable indoor orchardua-cam.com/video/lnmpeYFBm54/v-deo.html
Amazing experience, your accent is of someone who used to live somewhere around the Mideterranian area. Your passion for securing med fruits is beyond me. Bravo for being such an inspiration to others.
Thank you so much for your heartwarming thoughts! Yes, I was born and raised in Romania and we came to Canada about 30 years ago.
@@HumanWisdom Leaving this country was a good decision, in my opinion.
Just beautiful! It's like walking from one world where the evil snow queen has put a curse on the earth (been watching too many movies) then moving into the sunshine and promise of tomorrow. You are such a visionary and everything looks so wonderful.
Thank you very much for your heartwarming note! If we take a moment to think about it... now that we know for a fact that we can grow such an abundance of delicious and healthy food beyond the limitations of our local climate, in an ecologic and sustainable manner, all we need to do is to let as many people as possible know about this, and they will surely see the benefits and start creating this 'wonder'...
@@HumanWisdom Some will see the benefits, even if most will still be stuck in the matrix / rat-race. We cannot save those who do not want to be saved, but we can save those who do want to be saved, and that makes a big difference.
Moving to Alberta this spring. Will build a greenhouse tall enough for fruit trees. Thank you for the inspiration.
Love the Beethoven and absolutely love the idea of our communities growing local and organic fruit! I can't wait to follow along with this project and hope to one day have a heated greenhouse on my property big enough to sustain a fruit orchard.
I am very glad you like this divine music, and happy to see your vision of taking a active part in this sustainable project! I assume you meant to say an UN-heated greenhouse.
Hello, I just published a new video that will answer all the greenhouse construction questions:How I built the Plus4Zones unheated greenhouse
& the organic and sustainable indoor orchardua-cam.com/video/lnmpeYFBm54/v-deo.html
I am looking to move from Ontario to Nova Scotia soon and my biggest concern is weather! I love fresh gardens and have always wanted a personal orchard but I do not have experience out of ideal southern Ontario weather. This is very inspiring! Thank you for sharing.
I wish you best success in creating a great fruitful indoor orchard!
When there are people like you in the world this becomes much more vivid to imagine. :) I have a third of an acre space that is crying out for a greenhouse like yours. Thank you for sharing, I'm looking forward to hearing & discussing more. From Ireland 🇮🇪
Thank you, your thoughts are deeply touching! It also takes people like you, receptive and dynamic, to take any such experimental project to the next level where to make a significant difference in our lives… I am personally convinced that your 'third of an acre' would be enough to ensure self-sufficiency to you and your family! We will get to more and more concrete aspects very soon.
I just published a new video that will answer all the greenhouse construction questions:How I built the Plus4Zones unheated greenhouse
& the organic and sustainable indoor orchardua-cam.com/video/lnmpeYFBm54/v-deo.html
I love this idea of creating an environment to grow more things locally without sacrificing sustainability. We’re in a region where growing citrus is out of the question. But I’d love to be able to grow our own orange and lemon trees and avocado trees in zone 6.
Thank you for your note! I am so eager myself to see soon a P4Z greenhouse in a temperate zone 6 or 7 full of lovely flavorful citrus trees, as well as pomegranate and persimmon… Avocados may need a bit more protection, but I know there are some hardier varieties.
I just published a new video that will answer all the greenhouse construction questions:How I built the Plus4Zones unheated greenhouse
& the organic and sustainable indoor orchardua-cam.com/video/lnmpeYFBm54/v-deo.html
I look forward to seeing some updates of your winter growing. Your videos should get millions of views. Thank you.
Thank you. I am currently working on an update video, which will present six new experimental projects that we have done in the last couple of years.
@@HumanWisdomI've been waiting for an update for a year now. Looking forward to it!
@@WebSurfingIsMyPastime I am sincerely sorry for this delay, but if I could say that, it has a good reason… As I mentioned above, during the last couple of years we have been very busy with new and very interesting projects… As we were finishing one project and I was getting ready to work on a video, a new tempting idea was coming up and we could not stop ourselves from starting to work on it...
I am currently working on a video that presents the essential aspects of each project, and then if there will be a particular interest in one or another project, I can prepare detailed videos on those respective topics. Sorry once again for this delay!
@@HumanWisdom No need to be sorry. I'm just glad to have more of your content to look forward too! You've inspired me to setup a small greenhouse for mangoes here in the zone 9a in the bay area (california).
@@HumanWisdom Your content is one of the most inspirational that I have ever come across. You're changing lives! pls keep doing what you are doing! :)
Some detail on the greenhouse would be nice and when or if the greenhouse is opened up for ventilation and is it the ends or the sides or both. Irrigation explanation would be good as well. Thanks for sharing.
Ventilation is essential in any greenhouse! In our barn-converted greenhouse, we had large openings (windows) at the HIGHEST level of the two end walls, AND other windows at the LOWEST level of the side walls. We opened and closed the side windows in springtime as needed according to the outside day and night temperatures, and we kept all windows open during the summer, for good ventilation based on the chimney effect. We were watering once or twice a week during the summer, and never in winter time when all the fruit trees and grapevines were dormant.
For the greenhouse construction details, you can watch these two videos:
ua-cam.com/video/lnmpeYFBm54/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/YvcaRhWt3qQ/v-deo.html
A wonderful idea. We are a new nonprofit interested in this project
Bless you sir you are an inspiration to us all and a God sent from above
Thank you very much for your kind and humbling words!
Beautiful vision. 🙏 Thanks for sharing your work with the world.
Thank you very much for your kind thoughts!
@@HumanWisdom is it possible to come visit your greenhouse?
@@donnahansen3844 It would have been a pleasure... Over the last couple of years, many people came and visited our experimental fruit greenhouse. Last fall we had to sell that project, as it was located about 200 km away from our home and it became counter-productive to manage it in its next stages of development from a remote location...
I am súper exited with this ideas, I live in houston TX USA and will like to do something similar but I want to go one step further and make it all the way around, what I mean by that is that I want to create like a cold green house (sustainable) for the summer heat (110F here) so I am able to grow tomatoes and other summer crops that usually died in this heat!
Thank you so much for this invaluable information 🙏
I am very glad to hear about your green project! I think the 'key' element for your greenhouse in a 'hot region' is adequate ventilation - which you can create by installing LARGE windows at the HIGHEST level possible (ideally directly on the roof) - which will allow the hot air to go out easily, AND ALSO at the LOWEST level - so outside air can come in and compensate the slightly negative air pressure created in the greenhouse by the hot air going out.
In case your region may also lack some rainwater, you could also consider burying some old branches in the earth walls - which will store some precious humidity through the hugelkulture principle. I wish you best success and enjoyment of your project!
AS a further development of the indoor greenhouses, check out the UA-cam video 'Growing citurs in Nebraska'. He was using geothermal techniques to grow citrus in Nebraska but he also said he talked with the government of Dubai for using geothermal techniques for cooling their greenhouses. Might be worth a try. This green project is so valuable that I wish we all could do this.
Our Creator intentions since the beginning, was for us to labor and grow all kinds of fruitful trees and cattle, we're now overwhelmed with plastic and concrete! We need to start over.
You are right - surrounding ourselves by plants and trees is not only beautiful but also vital for supplying food for our families and communities. As some of us live in colder climates, we need to find creative ways to protect our gardens and eventually expand the varieties of fruits that we can grow beyond the local climate limitations.
@@HumanWisdom As a native Caribbean & 30 years Central Florida resident, I realize how privileged we are to enjoy such a rich tropical environment, if only we all share the same spirit & vision you have, we'd be in paradise! I'm a new gardener in love with all kinds of fruiting trees & all green life. Thank you for your enlightening dedication to nurture the earth!
You are truly inspiring! My goal is to purchase property and build a home with a greenhouse attached. I know that I will be using your methods you're teaching!
I am very glad to hear about your green project and wish you best success and enjoyment! If you will have any questions that I can answer I will be happy to do so. Here is my email address: hw@humanwisdom.ca
Looking forward to the next videos in the series and how we can all grow more diverse fruit organically, locally and sustainably for our communities
Thank you for your note! I am working on the next video presenting the construction of our experimental P4Z greenhouse from an old barn structure.
Loved this It's really inspired me .
Thank you, I am very glad you found it useful!
Looking forward to seeing your “how it was built” video, And a tour explaining your “unique growing method”. It would be nice to know how the greenhouse stays warm enough. I just want to encourage you to continue with the videos.
Are you looking for investors, or are you actually wanting to share this info? It seemed like you hinted at a lot of info, but actually did not share the details. Looking forward to that actually being put in a video for all to see. . However, I am encouraged and hope to see more shared in future videos. We do benevolent sustainable ag projects in the USA and internationally. It is our passion. We help those in need, to be able to feed themselves, their families, and then be able to pass it along to their communities. Hopefully this is truly your passion as well.
I am glad to hear about the ag projects you say your organization is doing. Regarding my 2 videos, they present exactly what their titles indicate: the first one presents a few good news about the possibility of growing locally delicious and organic fruits beyond climatic limitations, and the second one is an invitation to everyone interested in this subject to participate in a fruitful sustainable project worldwide... My next videos will present exactly what I mentioned at the end of the second video...
As you can imagine, if I was looking for investors these videos would have been presented on a crowdfunding platform, not on UA-cam...
There is no need for you to "encourage me to continue with the videos"... I have achieved the results that you now can see after 9 years of intense experimental work, of building and testing 7 experimental greenhouses of various sizes and construction solutions... At this point, do you really think that I need some sort of "encouragement" to share the results of my work...?
@@HumanWisdom No need to feel offended. I am only responding to the tone/implications that seemed to come across in your video presentations. It is generally considered polite to encourage others. And you asked for input. No one has ever achieved the pinnacle of success or accomplishment in their projects (always room for growth). My reply was not for the purpose of inciting offense.The blessing of collective projects is the addition of the experience, ideas, knowledge, skills and wisdom of others, come together. I wish you all success as you move forward with your project. It sounds very worth while. Hopefully you can attract the participation you hope for. Thank you for sharing this information. The success in your greenhouse growing seems impressive.
Thank you for your note. You are right, people's active and synergic participation is vital for the success of a collective project such as this one. I can only hope we will all do the best we can...
I just published a new video that will answer all the greenhouse construction questions:How I built the Plus4Zones unheated greenhouse
& the organic and sustainable indoor orchardua-cam.com/video/lnmpeYFBm54/v-deo.html
Love your work!!!!!
Thank you for sharing your passion and wisdom do you have pollinators or how do you pollinate? I'm in 5A and also have been fascinated with the aspect to have citrus and fruit from my "garden of Eden" kind Regards from Garner Iowa
Hello Don, thank you for your kind note. Most of our trees are self-pollinating. A few years ago we also bought some bumblebees, but the air draft of the natural ventilation does most of the job.
One of our UA-cam friends here also suggested placing a beehive within the greenhouse wall with 2 trap doors: one that we can open towards the greenhouse when the trees are in bloom, and a second one that we will open to the outside for the rest of the spring, summer and fall. Best regards, Dan
Thank you! Great work sir!
With pleasure! Thank you!
Looking forward to seeing more of your greenhouse and listening to your wisdom.
Thank you Hannah! Your kind note is profoundly humbling!
This is absolutely amazing! I live south of Lake Michigan and it does get cold but not like Canada. I am very inspired! Thank you for sharing.
Thank you! I wish you best success and enjoyment of your own green project! Here is the link to the next video in this series, which presents the construction details of all the unheated greenhouses that I have built in the last 10 years:
ua-cam.com/video/lnmpeYFBm54/v-deo.html
Paw Paw and Persimmons would work well too! I'm curious, what do you do for pollination? Hand pollinate?
You are right! Actually I planted a few persimmon plants 3 years ago, they all went very well through the winter and one of them even produced 4 fruits - what a joy was to see them! Last year, all the bigger trees around prevented them from having much sun so they only survived... It's definitely time to relocate at least half of the trees into another greenhouse... :)
Most of our trees are self-pollinating. Last year I also bought some bumblebees, but the air draft of the natural ventilation does most of the job. Honeybees would need much more space and flowers to survive, so not quite adaptable for this indoor environment.
@@HumanWisdom you should experiment on smaller bee colonies for greenhouses.
It would be interesting to see how small of a colony could sustain your trees.
Or several tiny 🐝 colonies for one greenhouse?
@@jasonpierce1980 You are right, an experiment may be worth it. One of our UA-cam friends here suggested to place a beehive box attached to (incorporated in) the wall. And then have a trap door that you open to the greenhouse when there are trees are blossoming, and then towards the outside for the rest of the spring, summer and fall.
Shared. I am in! How can I sign up with your project. Ready to start mine this now. Please help with some your planing details.
Thank you very much! I don't know if you have already watch this video with construction details:
ua-cam.com/video/lnmpeYFBm54/v-deo.html
Will keep you updated with the project!
Your idea is absolutely brilliant. I hope the world will follow this path. Thank you for your videos, I learned so much, however, it is your comprehensive global idea that I feel is ingenious. I will share with my friends and family.
Thank you! I think our overall success in this direction only depends on people's chance of learning about this ecological option and on their receptivity and motivation to build their own local organic fruit producing facilities. Your sharing with friends and family is a precious support in this respect - thank you very much!
Your fruit is amazing!! My husband and I have been talking about doing this for years and just yesterday were talking about doing an orchard greenhouse and boom!!! There was your video! I would love to hear your ideas on thermal efficiency and how you designed your greenhouse. I look forward to seeing more of your videos. We live in mid-Northern Ontario.
I am so glad to hear about your orchard greenhouse project! I am preparing a new video showing the conversion of an old barn structure into our current experimental fruit greenhouse, and then some others with more and more details.
I just published a new video that will answer all the greenhouse construction questions:How I built the Plus4Zones unheated greenhouse
& the organic and sustainable indoor orchardua-cam.com/video/lnmpeYFBm54/v-deo.html
I'm ready to begin. Very excited. I have a third of an acre and a house. I have 50'x7 feet for two green houses.
That sounds great. I think a third of an acre properly used can generate a lovely self-sustainable property...
Oh wow, that is so awesome.
I just went dreaming how I could build such a greenhouse in my small backyard
I am very glad to hear that you would like to grow fruit trees in a protective environment! The good news is that during the last couple of years I have done an experiment with some young fig trees planted directly in the ground, in our climate zone 5, in a much smaller protective structure than an actual greenhouse - and the results have been excellent. I will prepare a video on that project shortly.
Hi and thank you! This has been my vision for this place near Taos but on barren skinny land.. looking forward like kinds to discuss design concepts. 😀👍 👏
Oh your fruit trees look so beautiful. Looking forward to seeing more of your videos
Your new friends Tony & Shelly
Thank you Shelly and Tony! It is a sincere pleasure to count you among our precious friends!
Hello Shelly and Tony, I just published a new video that will answer all the greenhouse construction questions:How I built the Plus4Zones unheated greenhouse
& the organic and sustainable indoor orchardua-cam.com/video/lnmpeYFBm54/v-deo.html
Fantastic video that inspires me to continue and learn from my failures. Question, how about sunlight? We live upon a hill with large trees( Sweden) so a lot of shade, is it possible to get enough warmth in winter ? The sun hits the greenhouse in February. By than temperature dropped so much, even with insulated walls.
Thank you! Before expressing an opinion I would have a few questions and would ideally need a few pictures inside and outside of your greenhouse... I think this communication may be a bit easier by email. If you agree, here is my email address: hw@humanwisdom.ca
Here are some of my questions:
1. What is the MINIMUM winter temperature in your region?
2. Does your greenhouse have any heat accumulator, like earth berms, water barrels, etc. or insulated walls?
3. What are the dimensions of your greenhouse and how it is oriented (North-South or East-West)?
4. I do not really understand why your greenhouse does not have any sun in December and January, but you do have in February...
@@HumanWisdom
Fellow swede here to , hopefully, clarify the “no light until February “. Sweden is a narrow but “long and tall” country. With just about the upper third of the country within the polar circle ⭕️. I, myself, live in the zone almost in between the lower third and the middle third. Giving me, at the lowest, 3 hours of sunlight and 2 hours of dawn/dusk. Approximately.
Above/within the circle ⭕️, during winter time, they indeed have no “real sun” until February. They have dusk/dawn, until the sun finally climbs above the horizon again. (And for a month in the summer, the sun doesn’t go down fully.) we love our summers dearly, whenever it doesn’t just rain. 😊
Love this. I want to grow bananas and other tropicals in Ontario. I would also like to do marginally hardy fruits in unheated greenhouses. I would love to see what you have accomplished lately.
Thank you. I am not sure if you have seen the experimental greenhouses built during the last 10 years in this video: ua-cam.com/video/lnmpeYFBm54/v-deo.html
During the last couple of years, we continued these experiments... among which we managed to go through winter several young citrus plants in an unheated greenhouse in climate zone 5. I am working on a video about that project and a few others...
@@HumanWisdom I have watched a few of your videos. I xant wait to see what you are doing now.
I am planning to build a well insulated permaculture house with a big greenhouse attached in the Netherlands. Your experiments are wonderful inspiration and I would love to share ideas about that in a space maybe on an online forum to start with? I would like to see about all sorts of innovations that I can use to make a tropical greenhouse in this temperate climate. I want to eat home grown bananas.
I actually want to use the best ideas to make a great passive greenhouse and then add sustainable heating on top. I want to capture heat from the greenhouse in the summer and store it underground. Then use this heat in the winter to heat the house or the greenhouse. That should make it possible to grow practically anything in this mild climate
I think your plan is wonderful and absolutely feasible in temperate climate, and I wish you best success and enjoyment of your green project!
try to find videos in geothermal greenhouses...lots of good ideas and info...some are outrageously expensive some are for regular people....@@woutermollema
Hello Dan Bostan, and welcome to Small UA-cam Homesteaders, we subbed you! Ozark Mountain Goats
Thank you!
This is wonderful! Next, can you please talk about your pruning techniques to keep the trees small but producing a maximum crop?
Thank you! Most of our trees are grafted on (semi)dwarf rootstocks, which also makes the trees more precocious, but I also prune them each year - once at the end of winter and once during the summer.
One of the main objectives so far in this experimental fruit greenhouse has been to see how the trees and vines will adapt to this indoor environment and produce fruits... That is why I have planted about 3-4 times more trees than I should have in this greenhouse space... As now this experimental stage is over, I will remove and relocate a good number of the trees. Then I will apply a few pruning techniques that I have selected - as they differ substantially from cherries, to apricots, to peaches etc. I will share all these aspects as soon as I will apply these techniques.
über congratulations! the orchard looks amazing and it seems like there's also a nice yield( considering it's in such a cold climate). one question popped up though, how do you pollinate inside the greenhouse. do you bring in bees or do you manually pollinate, or ?
Thank you! Most of our fruit trees and plants here are self-pollinating, and the air draft of the natural ventilation (without a fan) does the pollination job quite well.
A very inspiring proof of concept! Perhaps it can be developed into a functioning micro-ecosystem, with diverse polycultures and habitat for insects and lizards too? (I have read that some organic commercial greenhouse growers in France encourage habitat for benevolent insects to reduce or eliminate pest or disease issues.)
Beautiful orchard. 😍 I look forward to joining Fruits Without Boarders. 😀
Thank you very much for your refreshing note! :)
I have been caught up on some urgent matters lately but I am working on the follow up videos and hope to publish them shortly.
I just published a new video that will answer all the greenhouse construction questions:How I built the Plus4Zones unheated greenhouse
& the organic and sustainable indoor orchardua-cam.com/video/lnmpeYFBm54/v-deo.html
I am so jealous! Thank you for inspiring me to get off my butt and do my own
I am very glad to hear you intend to start your own green project and I wish you best success and enjoyment!
I can’t wait for more informations ( how to build such a green house, how does the pollinisation work, irrigation, durability of such a structure? I have accès to farm land ( in Mirabel my parents land) and this is so exacting it open so much possibilities!!!! Oh and where do you get your variety’s of fruit trees? How long from seed to fruit ? The average cost of building such a structure? Oh là là I want to know more!!! And thank you for sharing this wonderful project 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Thank you very much for your note. I am very glad to see your enthusiasm for developing a sustainable green project! You raised very good questions! The answers to some of them are in the 3rd video of this series:
ua-cam.com/video/lnmpeYFBm54/v-deo.html
For all other questions I think the easiest way to communicate would be through email - here is my address: hw@humanwisdom.ca
I am definitely interested in this. I live in Maine. I thank you for your insight and your sharing of your success. I look forward to being part of this
I am very glad to see your interest in a green project.
Another question. Do you water all year long or do they stay dormant for a time?
Do you have irrigation in there
This Would Be Very Nice If Everyone Could Have A Large Green House Like that !! Very Interested In This ! I Will Be Following This ! Nice Job !
Thank you Pete! Now that we know 'this' is possible, it only depends on all of Us to make it happen. And I see it as an exciting synergic project that will give us delicious fruits, and also a clear proof of what wonders we can do TOGETHER!
Hello Pete, I just published a new video that will answer all the greenhouse construction questions:How I built the Plus4Zones unheated greenhouse
& the organic and sustainable indoor orchardua-cam.com/video/lnmpeYFBm54/v-deo.html
It’s really a beautiful vision of the future.
Thank you.
This video is related to characteristics of a tree throw where the partially submerged cavity one can possibly build a greenhouse over it.
Frutas sin fronteras. I like it.
Felicitari. "daca vrei se poate "!
Multumesc! Intr-adevar!
I am in zone 8 and I am trying to grow citrus and avocados using a similar method but I have a lot to learn. How do you prevent mold and black fungus on the plants; do you use fans? How do you ventilate your structures? Thank you for your great ideas. From the wet coast.
I zone 8, with a thermal-efficient greenhouse you can create a real 'fruit paradise'! Any greenhouse must be adequately ventilated! I do that through natural air draft (no fans) by providing large windows all along the long walls AND also on top of the end walls (or directly on the roof, if possible).
I wish you best success in your green project! Dan
Amazing Ideas!
Thank you!
Interesting idea climate shaving to increase growing season and mild up winter but not completely make a hot house.
You are right - it is not that easy to make an unheated 'hot house' in a very cold climate… The good news is that a couple of recent experiments give use hope to increase further the thermal efficiency of an unheated greenhouse. I will prepare a video with more details and preliminary results at the end of winter.
I also want to incorporate some chickens and beneficial insects and small animals. The last greenhouse I had, pests like flies and aphids were challenging
So far I have been treating the occasional pests with a mix of water, oil and liquid soap.
How are they pollinated? If they are covered, bees can't get in to pollinate and wind can't blow to help pollinate...??? Very interesting, we will be moving to zone 5 and I have been wondering how to grow an orchard... Do you use dwarf trees? Or can you do this with standard trees that you keep pruned shorter?
Most of our trees are self-pollinating. Last year I also bought some bumblebees, but the air draft of the natural ventilation does most of the job. Honeybees would need much more space and flowers to survive, so not quite adaptable for this indoor environment.
Most of our trees are grafted on dwarf rootstocks, which also make the trees more precocious, but I also prune them each year - once at the end of winter and once during the summer.
I would like to talk to you about doing this type of Green house in Winnipeg Manitoba How can I do that?
You send me an email at hw@humanwisdom.ca
From Winnipeg as well and these videos are giving me sooooo much inspiration.
@@lithiusx I am very glad to hear that!
how big is the greenhouse and how tall...how many trees do you have...have u try avocados? Love the idea and i hope that soon i will be able to find my dream land and stard doing my long long dream...cultivating and having my own animals...i already have a design for terragreenhouse, large enough to accomodate lots of different trees including plantains, bananas, avocados, and other fruits and vegetables and incorporate free range chickens inside the greenhouses...
The barn-converted greenhouse is about 3500 sf (approx 34' x 105'). This was an 'experimental' greenhouse (not a 'production' greenhouse), and as such, we planted as many trees as possible so to see how each one of them would adapt and produce fruits in that indoor environment. For a fruit production greenhouse, the optimum average distance between trees could be around 8 feet.
I tried some avocado plants in our climate zone 5 in the experimental greenhouse presented in this other video, and I think with some improvements, that would be feasible:
ua-cam.com/video/YvcaRhWt3qQ/v-deo.html
I wish you best success and enjoyment with your green project!
thank you so much for replying so fast to my comment...yes, i believe anything is possible if we humans start thinking out of the box and take charge of our food supply. thank you for the information and i will watch the video u linked in your comment. Many blessings to you and yours.@@HumanWisdom
@@lolitabonita08 I wish you best success with your green project! Thank you, all the best to you!
Bună ziua,
Aș avea 2 întrebări:
1. Ce adâncime are solul în care sunt plantați pomii în seră?
2. Cum se face polenizarea?
Mulțumesc și felicitări pentru toată munca depusă în acest proiect!
Buna ziua, pomii alesi sant cu portaltoi 'pitici', care nu dezvolta o radacina foarte mare si o adancime minima de circa 0,5 m ar putea fi suficienta.
In ceea ce priveste polenizarea, majoritatea pomilor noștri sant soiuri autofertile. În urmă cu câțiva ani am cumpărat și niște bondari, insa curentul de aer al ventilației naturale a dovedid ca functioneaza suficient de bine.
Unul dintre prietenii noștri de pe UA-cam ne-a sugerat să amplasăm un stup în peretele serei cu 2 trape: una pe care o putem deschide spre seră când pomii sunt în floare și una pe care o vom deschide spre exterior pentru tot restul sezonului cald.
Numai bine!
@@HumanWisdom I am from valleyfield Québec is it possible to meet you ,your project is Wonderful
@@marioleduc9448 Hello Mario, about a year ago, we had to sell both our house and our greenhouse... but if you have any questions you can send me an email at hw@humanwisdom.ca and I will be glad to respond.
Hello friend. Is there a schematic and materials blueprint we can show to a mechanic? Greetings from a Mediterranean person that dreams to grow some tropical fruits.
Hello, thank you for your message, and congratulations on your admirable dream!
First of all, I suggest that you watch these 3 videos, where you will find construction details of several green projects that can inspire you. Then, in case you have some specific questions, you can send me an email to hw@humanwisdom.ca and I will be glad to answer.
I wish you best success and enjoyment of your tropical fruit paradise!
ua-cam.com/video/YvcaRhWt3qQ/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/lnmpeYFBm54/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/ometMU9dY8Y/v-deo.html
Zone 5, just planted cold-hardy apples, pears, plums, nectarines, apricots, peaches, cherries last week. I want a greenhouse for citrus, figs, pomegranates, and olives!
Congratulations for your young fruit trees! It is always a joy to bring them in our lives! How big would you like your greenhouse to be? If you wish you can email me at hw@humanwisdom.ca
@@HumanWisdom thank you
That depends if it requires power or not and how expensive it is to build.
A small one if at my house backyard or a larger one at my acreage 😁
Electricity is necessary only for pumping the water for the trees and plants. This experimental greenhouse is a conversion of an old barn, so I cannot estimate very well the cost of a greenhouse built from scratch. It also depends if you can do (some of) the work yourself or you have to hire a contractor. (I did most of the work myself and only got some help for the operation of some rented equipment). And it also depends on the local cost of materials. Our greenhouse is in Quebec, Canada.
@@HumanWisdom I am in BC Canada. Boston Bar. I can do all the work myself. Do you have plans for the greenhouse ?
In this case this project will not be costly for you. I only have several sketches for the improved prototype and still have a few construction details to decide upon... I will let you know as soon as I will have final plans.
Very interesting video, but it would really help if the music was not playing in the background.
Thank you for your comment - well noted! I have 2 good news:
- I just published another video, which presents the construction process of this experimental greenhouse, and
- it does not have any music background. :)
I hope you will find it satisfactorily. Here is the link:
ua-cam.com/video/lnmpeYFBm54/v-deo.html
I watched both UA-cam you mentioned. Great idea, beautiful images, and awesome music. I am sorry but all I see is a commercial... well-done commercial, touching on a very interesting subject, but it's all it is, a commercial. It didn't say absolutely ANYTHING about how to build an environmental greenhouse. It didn't give a hint on how to pollinate the trees. The images are not showing the greenhouse itself at all so we can't "steal" the idea. So what is the message? How much for the detailed plans of building it? How much for all the other details, like the type of soil, pollinators, tree varieties, etc.?
Dear Svetlana, thank you sincerely for your message! On one hand, you give me some unexpected encouragement despite my truly modest knowledge & skills in preparing a video presentation… On the other hand, your many questions demonstrate how this is something complex enough that cannot be covered in just a few minutes video...
As I mentioned, I am working on the next videos presenting how we built our experimental greenhouse, the core concept based on which the P4Z greenhouse is conceived, the main advantages of growing fruit trees and grapevines in an indoor orchard, the 100% organic growing method and others...
For now, to answer your pollination question: there is no hand pollination, most of the trees are self-pollinating, I also bring in some bumblebees, and the air draft of the natural ventilation does the rest.
Thank you once again, and most sincere sorry if I disappointed you!
Hello Svetlana, I just published a new video that will answer all the greenhouse construction questions:How I built the Plus4Zones unheated greenhouse
& the organic and sustainable indoor orchardua-cam.com/video/lnmpeYFBm54/v-deo.html
I HAVE to build something like this -- I must!
I assure you - if you build it 'right' you will fully enjoy it!
Bravo Bravo
i am quite interested and following your project! I live in Zone 4, as well, on the USA side of the border.
Thank you Eileen! I am working on the next video about the construction of our experimental greenhouse, which will bring some relevant elements.
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I live en zone 9b , in the arizona desert , the complete opposite to your climate
my problem would be how to cool it down.
I wish there was a way to build a greenhouse without spending a fortune to build it .
thanks for sharing.
I think there would be a solution... In principle, if your climate condition is opposite than a cold climate, the solution should also have some 'opposite' elements... Apart from being partially underground, have some hugelkultur walls, that greenhouse should be oriented North (rather than South), have a partially shaded roof and a VERY good natural ventilation.
@@HumanWisdom we reach very high temperatures,
during the summer temperatures stay over 110 for over 90 days .
would require massive amount of electricity to cool it down .
I think if there was a way to make a cave, or maybe bury a shipping container, put grass over it, bring sun light using mirrors , or solar tubes
the dirt could be the insulation as long there is vegetation on it.
would require lots of work , experimenting and money probably not cost effective.
anyway just an idea
Bury the whole darn thing except the roof, line with bricks locally made, build a pergola with shade cloth over the entire top and maybe plant any sort of desert vine or plant that might grow up the pergola to get more shade. I have to imagine underground even in Arizona it is 60%s or so. In the winter if the vines die back great and just remove the shade cloth. Maybe? I live in Idaho and we get 100% temps for good stints too and going 6 feet under....so to speak does help a tone in cooling and good old shade trees that drop their leaves in fall to allow light in. That way it is just dig a big whole and only have to pay for a roof. Aren't bricks cheap there, just something to hold the dirt walls up so you can put the vertical planters.
@@riverhouseparadiseproject3298 Thanks for your advise
@@shamanking5195 I would think in that climate air tubes coming from underground would create a cool breeze into the greenhouse.
How do the flowers get fertilized? I assume there is no bees or other pollinating insects that time of year?
Most of our trees are self-pollinating. Last year I also bought some bumblebees, but the air draft of the natural ventilation does most of the job. Honeybees would need much more space and flowers to survive, so not quite adaptable for this indoor environment.
What kind of ventilation do you use? And do you have any problems with leaf curl or scab?
Do you by chance spray at all?
@@atlanticacresfarm There are ventilation windows all along the 2 long walls and also 2 large windows on top of the two end walls. No fans.
The experiences I had were with Woolly Apple Aphid - usually in May, and with Cherry Slug Sawfly in June and mid-July. Both can be very damaging if they are not dealt with quickly, but manageable if observed and intervened quickly! I handled both with oil and water, and sometimes liquid soap.
@@HumanWisdom neem oil ?
@@TheRainHarvester I heard good things about it, but so far I managed quite well with the less expensive canola oil.
I am also interested in the heating technology that you have utilized in your greenhouse.
Zone 7A Long Island, NY.
Thank you for your note!Being in zone 7A you can create a true fruit heaven there, all without any conventional heating! I am currently working on the next video illustrating how I build this experimental greenhouse, and then will get in more detailed aspects.
Is pollination an issue?
Most of our trees are self-pollinating. A few years ago we also bought some bumblebees, but the air draft of the natural ventilation does most of the job.
One of our UA-cam friends here also suggested placing a beehive within the greenhouse wall with 2 trap doors: one that we can open towards the greenhouse when the trees are in bloom, and a second one that we will open to the outside for the rest of the spring, summer and fall.
You have inspired me and I am conducting my own experiment. I have tried a peach and nectarine tree in zone 3 and even though we didn’t have a very cold winter, they survived their first winter in my Planta greenhouse. Here’s hoping they survive one of our colder winters. I’m already planning ahead and hope to build a bigger greenhouse next year. Most of the semi-dwarf trees I’ve looked at say that they need a spacing of 15 feet. I noticed that the trees in your videos look to be a lot closer. What spacing are you using?
I am very glad to hear about your interest in growing fruit trees in a greenhouse. Our barn-converted greenhouse was an 'experimental' project, not a 'production' one - where I planted as many fruit trees I could find, so to see how each one of them would adapt to the indoor environment and if they would produce fruits... Based on our experience, I would say, the 'optimum' average distance between fruit trees in a greenhouse would be about 8 feet. The (semi)dwarf rootstocks that we had were Gisela for cherry trees, Krymsk for most stone fruits, and B9 and M9 for apple trees.
I wish you best success and enjoyment of your green project!
je suis allee voir vos video , super je fait parti du groupe fou des plantes ,vous m avez meme fait une invitation au printemps donc emerveiller de ce j ai vu je ne peu resister ,donc je suis en train d acheter deux terrains adjacant de notre maison j aimerais en faire autant en prenant de vos conseil ,mais moi je n ai aucun batiment donc je vais decoller au debut les videos son en englais donc je vais trouver moyen de les mettre en Français encore felicitation pour vos videos .
Bonjour, merci beaucoup pour votre note! Voici les instructions pour voir les vidéos en français:
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Assurez-vous de visionner ce 3ème vidéo avec des détails de construction. Par la suite, si vous aurez des questions il me fera un plasir de vous répondre!
ua-cam.com/video/lnmpeYFBm54/v-deo.html
I see that you’re in Quebec, do you have any website recommendations to buying land from Quebec?
We have been out of Quebec for a while now, so not in a good position to help you with that... Sorry!
Awesome
Thank you.
How to keep apricot and cherry trees dwarf in greenhouse?
Most of our trees are grafted on (semi)dwarf rootstocks, but we also prune them each year.
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Thank you.
What are the dimensions of your greenhouse? Are you using Geothermal heat?
This greenhouse has about 3500sf (approx. 35 x 100 feet) and does not have underground geothermal pipes. One reason for that is the cost. The other one is that I prefer to have an almost total independence from electricity - which at times may stop, usually during tougher weather conditions, so when we would need it the most... Thank you for your note!
How airtight is your greenhouse?
Sorry for the delay! I would say about 90% airtight.
I have a good farm land at zone 6, want to start like your greenhouse project, can you share some details about your attached house greenhouse? thank you.
I am very glad to hear about your green project and wish you best success! Are you referring to the 'sun terrace', which I built attached to our house? If so, I could send you about 70 photos that I saved in a pdf file, which illustrate the entire construction process. Here is my email address: hw@humanwisdom.ca
Hello, I would like to learn about the construction process. Can you share as well?
@@costanam Sure, you can watch this video:
DIY - How I built the Plus4Zones greenhouse, the Sun Terrace and other unheated greenhouses
ua-cam.com/video/lnmpeYFBm54/v-deo.html
Also, if you would like to receive the pdf file with the photos of the sun terrace construction, you can send me an email at hw@humanwisdom.ca
This has been what I would love to achieve. I one greenhouse before made of glass and aluminum. But I didn’t have enough stable foundation and the greenhouse need to be rebuilt because it started tilting after 2 years. Wood will rot fairly quickly in a humid environment I would think, I am wondering how have yours been coping after a few years?
You are absolutely right, the greenhouse foundation has to be strong enough and the structure has to be well reinforced against strong winds. Wood structure can rot if it touches the earth, if it is kept in water, or if humidity level is excessive and for a long time - a good ventilation can address that. Our greenhouse is an experimental model, which I converted from an old barn 4 years ago and so far so good.
You might want to build with unistrut. Each "beam" had a live load of 1200lbs, and only cost $1 per foot. I built my greenhouse with it (on my channel).
My hearts desire. No land. Apartment. We live where property is incredibly expensive. Sad.
I understand. Maybe you can generate a community green project with other people interested in your area.
How do I build this plus4zone greenhouse?
I suggest watching these 3 videos:
DIY - How I built the Plus4Zones greenhouse, the Sun Terrace and other unheated greenhouses
ua-cam.com/video/lnmpeYFBm54/v-deo.html
5 incredible DIY cold climate projects Plus4Zone greenhouse, in-ground figs indoor orchard food wall
ua-cam.com/video/YvcaRhWt3qQ/v-deo.html
How we built our dream house with indoor Mediterranean garden in a temperate climate
ua-cam.com/video/ometMU9dY8Y/v-deo.html
Once you will do that, if you will have any specific questions I will be glad to answer.
I wish you best success in your green project!
Yes i watched them. Thank you. Impressive. @HumanWisdom
This has a lot of views!
I am grateful for people's interest, as it is only everyone's participation in this project that can make it happen everywhere it may be needed…
For this project do you have an email address, FB page or web page. Moving to zone 4 in a couple months. Ready to do this project this summer.
Yes, here is my email address: hw@humanwisdom.ca
My FB page: FRUITS WITHOUT BORDERS - solutions for an organic and sustainable life
facebook.com/Fruits-without-borders-solutions-for-an-organic-and-sustainable-life-100211695032098/
And another video that presents the construction details of the Plus4Zones unheated greenhouse and other models that I built: ua-cam.com/video/lnmpeYFBm54/v-deo.html
@@HumanWisdom thank you sent you an Im on Facebook. Aeriol
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How can we meet, I am located in Toronto Ontario, please let me know because I am on.the 100% same page.
We are out of the country at the moment, so you can send me an email with the questions you may have and I will be glad to respond - hw@humanwisdom.ca
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I wonder if this kind of greenhouse can be used to grow these wonderful fruit trees here in Mongolia?. We have very cold winter months reaching -20c during the day and -30c in the night.
I have no doubt that with a greenhouse that has earth-berm walls and double plastic for the roof and ceiling, you can grow any temperate-climate fruit trees (which go dormant in wintertime), like we did in our barn-converted greenhouse shown in this video:
ua-cam.com/video/lnmpeYFBm54/v-deo.html
I wish you best success and enjoyment of your fresh organic fruits!
i believe so, the only thing is to get it fully insulated, below 5 feet from the top soil so u can gather the earths heat in winter and cold air in summer...check geothermal greenhouses...