I feel like the overall power levels of Kengan are about to increase across the board, given what Shen talked about with Ohma plus what Raian showed in the recent chapter. Wouldn’t be surprised if the other top tiers get similar power ups.
People *REALLY* underestimating *and* forgetting Raian purposely holds back just for the Sadistic Thrill of overwhelming his opponents when he can just slap someone down asap using his family's secret techniques
Yes everyone knows he plays with his food and holds back but even at 100% going all out he will not beat Jack in the end the levels of power are still too different
Dude Jack Hanma at 19 Years old Kill a 15 M Siberian Bear Who Destroyed and Is stronger Than A the Current Russian Tank💀. He killed it with just His bare HAND and this is his teen Life.
And he Defeated Garland Who Defeated 18-19 Years old Hanayama. This version Of Hanayama in The spin Off Destroyed A Armored Vehicle that Grenade, RPG, Modern Weapon can't destroyed it And Hanayama Destroyed It WITH ONE STRIKE. THIS IS THE SAME MAN THAT GET SHOT BY 30 TIMES AND TAKING IT LIKE A PAPER. LIKE SERIOUSLY.
Strength and speed as well. Kengan characters are just way to fast for Baki characters. Baki characters always get beat by regular stuff except yujiro or musashi. Baki got knocked out by being slam on his back and hit in his solar plexus in 2 different fights like every other person in the world. Kengan characters will blitz them.
@@CoolAssBoi can't solo what you can't touch. They hit hard enough to slump the Baki characters and the Baki characters will never touch them. Baki characters durability is straight garbage. The best in the verse again like Baki and hanayama, get knocked out by regular ass stuff. Hanayama recently fell and was knocked out in a fight from it. Baki was slammed on his back and passed out from it. Retsu was almost killed by Joe Fraizer in boxing. Those guys would get slaughtered by kengan characters, they are too fast.
@@SuperiorIronMan0 Are you joking right now or being serious? Top tiers of kengan are right now on Kaku Kaioh level and some of them are slightly stronger, Jack would no diff Kaku? Kengan downplay is wild.
I believe if Raian decides to use The Kure Clan Tradition techniques back to back like he did with Alan Wu, with techniques such as “Avidya” and lands it he can easily Blind Jack, then continue to follow it up with Remival and finish off Jack with a lions bite or the technique he used to finish off Edward Wu
Jack would just pretend like he doesn’t know where raian is then Jack catches him off guard, grabs raian, then proceeds to destroy him after saying his famous line. “Beautiful”
I believe, even with 100% Release, Raian is a bit below Jack. However, I think Raian is definitely faster. But there's also the fact that Raian doesn't use Kure techniques that often while just simply doesn't have as many techniques of his own. If Jack lands a few well placed bites then Raian might struggle to maintain Release for very long.
I think Jack is faster via feats and scaling with other Baki characters personally BUT it’s not like Raian is totally powerless to blitzing, as Kengan characters in particular have a way to deal with way faster opponents, like Kuroki vs. Rei (and Kuroki couldn’t even perceive Rei)
How is Raian below Jack? Raian just no diff William who has Superman Sydrome and Guihun which is 3.33 multiplier. If anything Raian is above Jack even in base form. If Raian was to take the fight serious and go into Removal off the back Jack is getting blitz without a doubt the power gap would be huge. Now I do believe if we take in character Jack does have a change with Raian since he does bs with his fights.
@@Beast-fq7rp Thing is, Raian never beat Willem in brute strength, even Willem said so himself. But Raian’s new “redirection” abilities may prevent Jack from applying his full strength unless Jack uses Aiki, which he does know.
@@Pastamist no Raian was stronger based on AP and Speed it’s true he didn’t overpower William while he had the sword that was only time, other than that we saw in the fight Raian was beating William in stats.
The Baki characters aren't durable. They are strong but lack durability. They get koed by normal attacks all the time by random people. Hanayama just got knocked out by falling. Raian as much as I love Baki since I grew up with it, would blitz 99% of the verse only excluding Musashi and Yujiro.
The earquake feats and the lightning feat is due to yujiro's aura and presence. He can't move at lightning speeds and he can't shift entire tectonic plates with a punch
You actually brought up something nobody ever does when it comes to scaling earthquake feats. Even in real life different types of human activities, such as mining operations, can start an earthquake. However, stopping an earthquake belongs entirely in the realm of fiction. Yujiro's feat is a bit too absurd even for Baki's world, so I personally believe that the earthquake just stopped by itself, but if it didn't, then Yujiro is confirmed to be able to move tectonic plates and that is far and beyond of what even Shen was shown capable of.
@@venomshot2815It’s canon, yujiro flung pickle with a technique which usually doesn’t work on him because pickle has been known to batter dinosaurs with his fist and ate them including the T-Rex and Trike. Current Yujiro is a FARR greater monster now
The only reason it’s hard to scale because Baki shows how strong the characters through showing super feats real world but Kengan shows through battle and interactions
@what_could_have_been_.Waka or Julius is nothing to Jack, if I read Kengan Omega and can confirm Baki wins this then either y’all don’t wanna accept the facts or simply don’t know how broken Baki characters are
@what_could_have_been_.Raians faster then Julius and Waka but he still loses against them, wth is the difference with jack who can take out both waka and julius😂
Jacks endurance and durability are too absurd. I know raian has the same schtick but ya, the goudou is too hard of a counter as well. I can’t see a conclusion other then Jack turning raian into Swiss cheese. He can already take full power hits from a man with a grip that can create diamonds. And if committed, can take down Doppo + level opponents with essentially next to no difficulty
we also need to mention the use of otakemaru (Raians sword), because we have seen that in baki there have been cases where characters used weapons like Musashi and Motobe
@@jgrAnimations23 haha nice happy you love it! And uhhh yeah for some reason even tho i was cheering for raian (He should lose logicly tho) the end of the fight still didnt satifiy me at all, the fight also felt really short I mean all of them are but this one specifcly should've be longer since they talked alot But yeah i still enjoyed it lol
Base vs Base, Jack wins with relative ease. Post transformation fight, Jack wins high difficulty. Despite Raian winning, he took way more damage, so of the fight continues, I can confidentally say that Jack can win if the fight wasn't stopped.
I’m not saying you’re wrong, at all, I commend the effort. Ultimately though, this is like asking “is this apple more grape than a kiwi? The answer will determine will shock you!”
Raian seems to be undergoing a significant leap in power and skill currently, especially judging by how easily he packed and smoked those two Wu Clan guys, absolutely dog-walking them while implying through how the sword works that he may have developed some of his principles to a level approaching the Connector. So it's hard to say where his ceiling is now. We'll get a better idea where he's really at when he inevitably ends up fighting a guy like Gilbert Wu. It's pretty clear that's the fight they'd be building to for Raian. Also, for the sake of the crossover, I think they went with the right result.
Close, I agree. If we're contemplating what might happen in a crossover, some of the comic-book character edge of the Bakiverse would need to be ground away, and that helps Raian.
@@mysteriousweeb nowhere is it stated bakis speed is withing the confines of 0.5 seconds but merely that he simply attacked within the 0.5 seconds of unconscious, in contrast the gaolang statement is a direct speed feat and limit saying gaolanf can only strike 15x in 1 second which wouldn't even be worthy for a random shinshinkai member in terms of speed
@@mysteriousweeb musashi attacked yujiro and had a exchange with him all occurring within "0.000.....???" This one feat alone but the baki verse not 2x not 5x but a almost uncalculable amount of times above kengan in speed, gaolang is arguable the 2nd to 5th fastest striker in the series yet he can only produced 15 strikes within a second
@@mysteriousweeb ur whole 0.5 second counter argument is weak because the 0.5 seconds in merely described as the unconscious time frame, not anybody attack speed or limit like gaolangs, for example even ali jr was koing people within 0.1 time frames casually too, ali jr was someone introduced 6 arcs ago btw
If you think Raian and Pickle strength are the same lvl, Pickle hunst and eats dinosaurs from ragdolling a Triceratops ans stopping a foot from a giant sauropod preventing Pickle getting crushed.
@what_could_have_been_.Alan never swam 200 meters BELOW water in 5 minutes + swam 7,317 miles in less than a day from florida to japan + destroyed engraved his fist 100 times in the statue of liberty or lifted a car with his bare strength. These are the strengths of the “prisoners” of baki who scale to the WEAKEST characters in baki. The prisoners drop alan low diff
@what_could_have_been_.yeah waka can dent a 225 ton steel enforced statue to the point it was about to literally fall apart, which is something spec did. Kinda crazy considering how powerful steel is and how much strength it considers to dent it let alone with your bare fists. Spec had hundreds of engravings of his fist in it to the point the steel was CRACKING. Spec got his forearm split, throat torn out, battered by someone who swam in the ocean and fought a megalodon bare handed then won. He even fully recovered in an instant when the camera cut off to him in the hospital.. bro is literally 97 years old too. Meanwhile waka can’t even go all out because he injured his ankle bruh
I say raian wins this simply due to him being the greater of the two when it comes to technique, although Jack has developed a strong martial art it's still young and unrefined and he himself is not a killer whereas killing what raian does for a living.
Also Didn't Raian beat someone who has what wakasuki has but I get it isn't as strong as wakasuki but he uses release and Raian fought him Base form and it looks like he's stronger so Raian in base alone should be close to Jack right?
😊😊🏆🏆 Just wondering if Kure Karura might be in the movie like she save Kozue in the alley from the thugs (just thinking) Hope the movie will be like 3 hours long
What’s the best site/app I can read the Kengan series on? Idk if you can read it on any sites that aren’t sketchy asf or any app for free but if anyone knows please share 😭🙏
@what_could_have_been_.Eddie got rekt by Raian after getting exhausted, once he runs out of his guihun Jack destroys him. If you wanna talk about ‘omega’ where edward wu appears far in the manga then I can bring up current jack who’s 8ft tall and 444ibs / bodied a sumo wrestler who would crush edward into the size of a coin with his 100 ton grip strength. Mr Eddie doesn’t want no smoke with Jack Hanma, baki characters are broken. Don’t even make me bring up a point where he went near toe to toe with someone who massacred dinosaurs and even lifted them with his bare fists then ate them including the apex predators. Jack is a Waka and Julius combined on steroids in his BASE without going all out.
@what_could_have_been_. Pickle got hit by a truck and got up like nothing happened then proceeded to toss it aside the same way he would toss triceratops before being frozen for millions of years. Last I remember the biggest feat your powerhouse in kengan aka julius did was stop a little f1 car from moving. Not even I understood how edward went from destroying raian in base to raian destroying him in guihun + his ultimate technique but Edward still lost in the end so oh well.
@what_could_have_been_.I don’t remember pickle getting knocked out but I do remember him getting up two seconds later with not even a scratch as if nothing happened😂but you can let me know when Waka heals up his little ankle injury that makes him not fight at 100% let alone tank a truck charging at him full speed
No please make a video on Gilbert wu vs Kure rainin . I mean this is super hype at the moment . Hope you understand. After William death it’s super clear
I just don't see why we had to point to everyone but them to see their power levels esp in series like Baki where the power levels are whatever the hell the author wants them to be, I came into this expecting to see a real comparison between Jack and Raian and all I got was yapping about Yujiro's earthquake feat and Demon's bane A rare miss man
It's still hard to believe that Baki is about to get some smoke from oma. That is something that was believed to be a fantasy fight that would only exist in our minds and now it has come to reality with no warning. It's so unbelievable I have actually gone back to watch the trailer multiple times I have to force myself to believe it.
Good breakdown, I think Raian wins he is melding techniques to his development that exceed his natural performance. Jack is taking the obscure path of a Hanma patterning his style around biting is a sneaky move, like a nut shot or hidden blade. Both get frazzled when their best gets tanked, maybe they will get into deep water fights that drives them to go all out.
Let's do this, the younger yujiro that fought baki as a 13 year old, stopped a Magnitude 6 earthquake, which is town level, or 15 kilotons of force, but when near current baki got hit by imaginary yujiro, it made an earthquake, a Magnitude 4, which is city block level, or 15 tons of force, so let's say baki is around city block level, hitting himself against a wall hard enough to knock him out, and if you do not know, 1000 tons is 1 kiloton, so how many times stronger is baki's feat vs yujiro's feats, yujiro's feat is literally 1000x that of baki's feat, and yujiro said himself that he gets stronger every day, not by a lot, but he does by little. So just like how a man grabbed onto a door handle as yujiro did, and overpowered him easily, those moments in the early age of baki manga, are massively inconsistent moments and aren't considered canon.
@derekgandlofini8058 I think people are underestimating raian a bit, especially when he's not trying. However, when he's serious, he could win but barely. I'm not saying Jack doesn't have a chance. No, that's dumb to think, but it would be an interesting fight
@@RyujibarbarianJacks body is hard as steel, good luck to raian even leaving a scratch on him even with his strongest techniques. I’m not low balling kengan ashura because I love it myself, but baki solos 9.9 of 10 times
They’ll prolly make Jack lose the fight in the anime but at the same time nearly destroying Raian with the ref having to save him from getting a final blow from Jack
Bro they nerfed jack n u know it, Jack was BITING INTO HIM N CREATING HOLES IN HIS BODY, how tf does ohms beat him with punches but jack is literally biting holes n still looses
@what_could_have_been_.Raian still loses to Waka and Julius. Current jack eats them for breakfast since he easily destroyed nomi who’s far stronger then waka and julius combined. Jack > Raian
I have long said that people, due to their low intelligence, perceive everything they read as 100% truth and facts. If Oliver (author) hadn't said that his muscles couldn't destroy the entire prison basically it was a joke, people would bring up this "fact" in each power scale vid.Take other anime where the characters constantly say that they will kill someone but in the entire anime there are no murders at all. Your Spec who breaks the Statue of Liberty takes damage from a pistol and a small bomb in hand turns your "superman's" face to mush.It's just that in Kengan the characters don't fight cars, walls and ordinary people, that's the whole difference
For jack I see him as slower than baki and Yujiro as he is more of a power fighter not a speed fighter. And some of the fastest confirmed feats are the super sonic punch in the pickle arc and baki moving in the half second knocking out Oliver for a bit. And jack isn't on that level I think the best person to scale him to would be Oliver as they both use there strength with a bit of technique. As for raian the best speed feat we have is him blitzing 3 removed west wu members before anyone could realise and catching rei's punch without removal but that hasn't been confirmed for its speed and lastly the clash with ohma. As for strength jack has many feats to go off of but raian really only has him lifting and throwing Mokichi Robinson with 1 hand. As all other feats are through techniques and the connector himself has stated that ohma shouldn't be to different from him in terms of physical stats so raian shouldn't be too much off either the techniques are what makes there physical strength harder to calculate.
Answer is simple.....Just watch how in Omega Rain Brock in 2 pieces from up to down his opponent....you should need 10 horses in left and right side to do that....
It's still hard to believe that Baki is about to get some smoke from oma. That is something that was believed to be a fantasy fight that would only exist in our minds and now it has come to reality with no warning. It's so unbelievable I have actually gone back to watch the trailer multiple times I have to force myself to believe it.
I’m confused how you argue for Jack is still above Raian in Removal? Raian has shown even back in Ashura he stat check Ohma when he was using advance and even now Raian just no diff Willian who has Superman Syndrome and Guihun which is 3.33 multiplier. If anything Raian stats check Jack. However in character I can see Jack catching Raian off guard since he bs a lot. However in bloodlust fight Raian taking it.
@what_could_have_been_. none of that matters when Jack killed a massive polar bear and held his ground against a flinstone mofo who ate dinosaurs lol. The setting isn’t even nowhere near omega either. Raian getting his ass whooped with or without removal
@what_could_have_been_.answer my question, HOW did he knock out when he got up INSTANTLY and had ZERO damage then proceeded to flip the truck over and eat the damn meat
saying someone is stronger than someone else because they beat the person that beats them isn't really legit imo. some people can just beat certain people and not others in whatever direction you take it.
@@Beast-fq7rp if jack doesn’t go feral I won’t support him I wanna see him… idek like shit can you imagine a 7’9 drug abuser tryna bite you id be terrified 😂
Kure Raian is both faster and stronger than Jack. The only chance for Jack to win is to get Raian in choke or a bite somehow due to insane animalistic nature of Raian. If he doesn't, he is cooked.
Jack - hangs from tree asleep to train - moves at subsonic speeds - tanks shots from city level characters - beaten sukune, 3 thugs, sirosky, Ali JR, polar bear Name me one thing raian has done
What overrating? Jack defeated a guy who can make diamonds with his hands and has x ray vision. And mid diffed a guy in the beginning of the series that has feats comparable or above Julius
@@floppa731Exactly, I wouldn’t be surprised if these kengan trds can’t even read the names of other characters from different series let alone knowing their capabilities aside from their own😂
It's still hard to believe that Baki is about to get some smoke from oma. That is something that was believed to be a fantasy fight that would only exist in our minds and now it has come to reality with no warning. It's so unbelievable I have actually gone back to watch the trailer multiple times I have to force myself to believe it.
Currently on holiday legends, but finally got this video done ❤
L video
Re read the series dude
Get some sense lol
Son this video was mysteriously trash
Lol even yuijiro hanma himself hates jack less than mysterious weeb with the last dinner chapter finally having fun together
I feel like the overall power levels of Kengan are about to increase across the board, given what Shen talked about with Ohma plus what Raian showed in the recent chapter. Wouldn’t be surprised if the other top tiers get similar power ups.
Yup bro literally neg diffed a guy who had superman syndrome nd 100%Guihun dats op feat
People *REALLY* underestimating *and* forgetting Raian purposely holds back just for the Sadistic Thrill of overwhelming his opponents when he can just slap someone down asap using his family's secret techniques
Yes everyone knows he plays with his food and holds back but even at 100% going all out he will not beat Jack in the end the levels of power are still too different
Jack fought a dude who eats trexes 💀💀
Exactly like if Raian take it serious it’s wraps
Dude Jack Hanma at 19 Years old Kill a 15 M Siberian Bear Who Destroyed and Is stronger Than A the Current Russian Tank💀. He killed it with just His bare HAND and this is his teen Life.
And he Defeated Garland Who Defeated 18-19 Years old Hanayama. This version Of Hanayama in The spin Off Destroyed A Armored Vehicle that Grenade, RPG, Modern Weapon can't destroyed it And Hanayama Destroyed It WITH ONE STRIKE. THIS IS THE SAME MAN THAT GET SHOT BY 30 TIMES AND TAKING IT LIKE A PAPER. LIKE SERIOUSLY.
Raian Kure is what Yujiro thought Baki would be when he grow up, personality of course
Strength and speed as well. Kengan characters are just way to fast for Baki characters. Baki characters always get beat by regular stuff except yujiro or musashi. Baki got knocked out by being slam on his back and hit in his solar plexus in 2 different fights like every other person in the world. Kengan characters will blitz them.
@@sky-oq5mr the only thing kengan verse take is speed while baki verse get all of the stat, hell nah, the baki verse solo kengan verse🗿
@@CoolAssBoi can't solo what you can't touch. They hit hard enough to slump the Baki characters and the Baki characters will never touch them. Baki characters durability is straight garbage. The best in the verse again like Baki and hanayama, get knocked out by regular ass stuff. Hanayama recently fell and was knocked out in a fight from it. Baki was slammed on his back and passed out from it. Retsu was almost killed by Joe Fraizer in boxing. Those guys would get slaughtered by kengan characters, they are too fast.
@@sky-oq5mrSpeed? Have you even watched Baki?
Have u watched Kengan bruh@@berserk3380
Raian mid-high diffs Maximum tournament Jack, current Jack mid diffs Raian
Current jack no diffs the verse
@@SuperiorIronMan0
Are you joking right now or being serious? Top tiers of kengan are right now on Kaku Kaioh level and some of them are slightly stronger, Jack would no diff Kaku? Kengan downplay is wild.
@@shvvagier4951Even the highest ranking Kengan fighters aren't on Kaku's lvl💀
@@shvvagier4951definitely not kaku kaioh level, more like Baki dou Oliva level. You know still strong but still able to be 1 shot
@@shvvagier4951stop making sht up kengan is no where baki. I can tell yo ass dont even read baki
Ohma: let me use my Possesing spirit / Niko style
Baki: I’ll be taking that
I don't think Baki can copy that, it is something that has to be activated by someone else to achieve, you can't just will it to occur on your own.
I believe if Raian decides to use The Kure Clan Tradition techniques back to back like he did with Alan Wu, with techniques such as “Avidya” and lands it he can easily Blind Jack, then continue to follow it up with Remival and finish off Jack with a lions bite or the technique he used to finish off Edward Wu
The anime setting doesn’t take place anywhere near Omega so it’s least likely he’d be doing it
Jack would just pretend like he doesn’t know where raian is then Jack catches him off guard, grabs raian, then proceeds to destroy him after saying his famous line. “Beautiful”
@@Hector_-bm9mr he would eat him
I believe, even with 100% Release, Raian is a bit below Jack. However, I think Raian is definitely faster. But there's also the fact that Raian doesn't use Kure techniques that often while just simply doesn't have as many techniques of his own. If Jack lands a few well placed bites then Raian might struggle to maintain Release for very long.
I think Jack is faster via feats and scaling with other Baki characters personally BUT it’s not like Raian is totally powerless to blitzing, as Kengan characters in particular have a way to deal with way faster opponents, like Kuroki vs. Rei (and Kuroki couldn’t even perceive Rei)
How is Raian below Jack? Raian just no diff William who has Superman Sydrome and Guihun which is 3.33 multiplier. If anything Raian is above Jack even in base form. If Raian was to take the fight serious and go into Removal off the back Jack is getting blitz without a doubt the power gap would be huge. Now I do believe if we take in character Jack does have a change with Raian since he does bs with his fights.
@@Beast-fq7rp Thing is, Raian never beat Willem in brute strength, even Willem said so himself. But Raian’s new “redirection” abilities may prevent Jack from applying his full strength unless Jack uses Aiki, which he does know.
@@Pastamist no Raian was stronger based on AP and Speed it’s true he didn’t overpower William while he had the sword that was only time, other than that we saw in the fight Raian was beating William in stats.
The Baki characters aren't durable. They are strong but lack durability. They get koed by normal attacks all the time by random people. Hanayama just got knocked out by falling. Raian as much as I love Baki since I grew up with it, would blitz 99% of the verse only excluding Musashi and Yujiro.
7'11 not 7'9
211 kg, not 200 kg
@@JHMninja89200kg bruh
@@Oblivion-h2x bro read rahen
@@JHMninja89 19chaps bro
The battle of big boi chads.
Oh please
Jack is 7”11 there’s only one big boy here 💀
Make me laugh
@@kertdeck A big boy and a lunchable
The earquake feats and the lightning feat is due to yujiro's aura and presence. He can't move at lightning speeds and he can't shift entire tectonic plates with a punch
Wrong
@@mysteriousweeb If I'm wrong then we have to discard most fights in the series
@@mysteriousweebwrong. I’m mysterious weeb so you’re WRONG
You actually brought up something nobody ever does when it comes to scaling earthquake feats. Even in real life different types of human activities, such as mining operations, can start an earthquake. However, stopping an earthquake belongs entirely in the realm of fiction. Yujiro's feat is a bit too absurd even for Baki's world, so I personally believe that the earthquake just stopped by itself, but if it didn't, then Yujiro is confirmed to be able to move tectonic plates and that is far and beyond of what even Shen was shown capable of.
@@venomshot2815It’s canon, yujiro flung pickle with a technique which usually doesn’t work on him because pickle has been known to batter dinosaurs with his fist and ate them including the T-Rex and Trike. Current Yujiro is a FARR greater monster now
243cm = 7'11 not 7'9
Doesn’t even read the series
@@MeretHeret i mean height bro 243 is slighty 8 feet (244cm), actual height 7'11
@@chocopie-r9bhe’s agreeing. Mysterious weeb doesnt watch or read enough
The only reason it’s hard to scale because Baki shows how strong the characters through showing super feats real world but Kengan shows through battle and interactions
I don’t see raian even having a chance of winning
Me too
@what_could_have_been_.Waka or Julius is nothing to Jack, if I read Kengan Omega and can confirm Baki wins this then either y’all don’t wanna accept the facts or simply don’t know how broken Baki characters are
@what_could_have_been_.Raians faster then Julius and Waka but he still loses against them, wth is the difference with jack who can take out both waka and julius😂
@what_could_have_been_. Jack easily beat Nomi no Sukune who has strength greater than Waka and Julius combined, what😂
These two chad's duking it out would be peak fiction
Wish granted
I like to point out that even yujiro losing to tranquilizers is consistent to pickle being put to sleep. Guns in baki dont scale to melotonin
If Jack is stronger than current Pickle now then beating Raian wouldn't even be a challenge
Lol maybe read omega current Raian is op as fuck
@@Oblivion-h2x Already did, I still stand by my statement tho😤
Yeah u do lmao@@JoeyJordisonLover
@@Oblivion-h2x Omega Raian is still not strong enough for Rahen Jack , dude just need to be caught and it will be a sukune incident again.
@@Eichhornchen-pincone Raian need 2 get hold of Jack's mouth nd it's gonna be Alan incident
They disrespected my boy jack hanma he better get his revenge !
Jacks endurance and durability are too absurd. I know raian has the same schtick but ya, the goudou is too hard of a counter as well. I can’t see a conclusion other then Jack turning raian into Swiss cheese. He can already take full power hits from a man with a grip that can create diamonds. And if committed, can take down Doppo + level opponents with essentially next to no difficulty
we also need to mention the use of otakemaru (Raians sword), because we have seen that in baki there have been cases where characters used weapons like Musashi and Motobe
June 6 we're gonna see it!
How was it?
@@a_guy_in_the_internet it was great imo 8/10
Jack's fight was disappointing a bit
@@jgrAnimations23 haha nice happy you love it!
And uhhh yeah for some reason even tho i was cheering for raian (He should lose logicly tho) the end of the fight still didnt satifiy me at all, the fight also felt really short
I mean all of them are but this one specifcly should've be longer since they talked alot
But yeah i still enjoyed it lol
The battle of legends and my fav charecters from both series a fight we wish to see
just casually ignoring Jack's strongest feats is crazy
And now we're getting this fight in anime form.
I can actually see raian tearing jack’s limbs apart LOL. All i can say it would be a bloody brutal bloodbath fight
Raian can do it
@@Oblivion-h2xno he can’t
Base vs Base, Jack wins with relative ease.
Post transformation fight, Jack wins high difficulty.
Despite Raian winning, he took way more damage, so of the fight continues, I can confidentally say that Jack can win if the fight wasn't stopped.
@@snakepeoplejerry562 dude he was bitin thr whole time jack is not beating raian if he fough fair all jack did was bite like a rabid dog
I’m not saying you’re wrong, at all, I commend the effort. Ultimately though, this is like asking “is this apple more grape than a kiwi? The answer will determine will shock you!”
Raian seems to be undergoing a significant leap in power and skill currently, especially judging by how easily he packed and smoked those two Wu Clan guys, absolutely dog-walking them while implying through how the sword works that he may have developed some of his principles to a level approaching the Connector. So it's hard to say where his ceiling is now. We'll get a better idea where he's really at when he inevitably ends up fighting a guy like Gilbert Wu. It's pretty clear that's the fight they'd be building to for Raian.
Also, for the sake of the crossover, I think they went with the right result.
Close, I agree. If we're contemplating what might happen in a crossover, some of the comic-book character edge of the Bakiverse would need to be ground away, and that helps Raian.
Gaolang can only throw 15 jabs per second💀 the average street thug in baki can achieve 10x that speed
brings up baki's 0.5 second unconscious technique
@@mysteriousweeb nowhere is it stated bakis speed is withing the confines of 0.5 seconds but merely that he simply attacked within the 0.5 seconds of unconscious, in contrast the gaolang statement is a direct speed feat and limit saying gaolanf can only strike 15x in 1 second which wouldn't even be worthy for a random shinshinkai member in terms of speed
@@mysteriousweeb musashi attacked yujiro and had a exchange with him all occurring within "0.000.....???" This one feat alone but the baki verse not 2x not 5x but a almost uncalculable amount of times above kengan in speed, gaolang is arguable the 2nd to 5th fastest striker in the series yet he can only produced 15 strikes within a second
@@mysteriousweeb ur whole 0.5 second counter argument is weak because the 0.5 seconds in merely described as the unconscious time frame, not anybody attack speed or limit like gaolangs, for example even ali jr was koing people within 0.1 time frames casually too, ali jr was someone introduced 6 arcs ago btw
Gah damn wtf 😂
What's the difference between "the removal" and what Gaia uses as per his explanation during his fight against Baki?
Im thinking, "Couldn't Raian just break Jack's teeth like what Pickle did?" But he has titanium teeth
If you think Raian and Pickle strength are the same lvl, Pickle hunst and eats dinosaurs from ragdolling a Triceratops ans stopping a foot from a giant sauropod preventing Pickle getting crushed.
@what_could_have_been_.Alan never swam 200 meters BELOW water in 5 minutes + swam 7,317 miles in less than a day from florida to japan + destroyed engraved his fist 100 times in the statue of liberty or lifted a car with his bare strength. These are the strengths of the “prisoners” of baki who scale to the WEAKEST characters in baki. The prisoners drop alan low diff
@what_could_have_been_.yeah waka can dent a 225 ton steel enforced statue to the point it was about to literally fall apart, which is something spec did. Kinda crazy considering how powerful steel is and how much strength it considers to dent it let alone with your bare fists. Spec had hundreds of engravings of his fist in it to the point the steel was CRACKING. Spec got his forearm split, throat torn out, battered by someone who swam in the ocean and fought a megalodon bare handed then won. He even fully recovered in an instant when the camera cut off to him in the hospital.. bro is literally 97 years old too. Meanwhile waka can’t even go all out because he injured his ankle bruh
NGL Raian quickly became my favorite character when I found out in Omega he pulled a Homelander and rips a man in half
Kengan and Baki characters are way closer now in terms of strenght then there ever been.
Bruce lee solo's them all 🗿🗿
I say raian wins this simply due to him being the greater of the two when it comes to technique, although Jack has developed a strong martial art it's still young and unrefined and he himself is not a killer whereas killing what raian does for a living.
Also Didn't Raian beat someone who has what wakasuki has but I get it isn't as strong as wakasuki but he uses release and Raian fought him Base form and it looks like he's stronger so Raian in base alone should be close to Jack right?
L take
huge W take
@@jacobpalacios6937get some sense.
Jack 7”11
>killed polar bear
>created martial art.
@@jacobpalacios6937Massive L Take*
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Just wondering if Kure Karura might be in the movie like she save Kozue in the alley from the thugs (just thinking)
Hope the movie will be like 3 hours long
Only one 💀
Will Raian be like Toguro going 120% or maybe train his quality so his 1% can match Jack's 1%?
Would love to see Akoya's reaction and hear his thoughts to witnessing Jack using goudou in a match
Jack win in low diff❤
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@@thefirstprime0124 BIG cap😂
Srsly I mean meat riding won't stop 😂😂
That is so unbelievably cap you should be ashamed of yourself
243 centimeters is 7 foot 11
What’s the best site/app I can read the Kengan series on? Idk if you can read it on any sites that aren’t sketchy asf or any app for free but if anyone knows please share 😭🙏
Kinda sad they didn’t give Katsumi his arm but I forget the animated versions hasn’t gotten to when he gets “an” arm back in the manga
My dude really said "hyperbowl"
How about Jack vs Eddie?
@what_could_have_been_.Eddie got rekt by Raian after getting exhausted, once he runs out of his guihun Jack destroys him. If you wanna talk about ‘omega’ where edward wu appears far in the manga then I can bring up current jack who’s 8ft tall and 444ibs / bodied a sumo wrestler who would crush edward into the size of a coin with his 100 ton grip strength. Mr Eddie doesn’t want no smoke with Jack Hanma, baki characters are broken. Don’t even make me bring up a point where he went near toe to toe with someone who massacred dinosaurs and even lifted them with his bare fists then ate them including the apex predators. Jack is a Waka and Julius combined on steroids in his BASE without going all out.
@what_could_have_been_. Pickle got hit by a truck and got up like nothing happened then proceeded to toss it aside the same way he would toss triceratops before being frozen for millions of years. Last I remember the biggest feat your powerhouse in kengan aka julius did was stop a little f1 car from moving. Not even I understood how edward went from destroying raian in base to raian destroying him in guihun + his ultimate technique but Edward still lost in the end so oh well.
@what_could_have_been_.I don’t remember pickle getting knocked out but I do remember him getting up two seconds later with not even a scratch as if nothing happened😂but you can let me know when Waka heals up his little ankle injury that makes him not fight at 100% let alone tank a truck charging at him full speed
Jack makes easy work of Raian. Aside from Shen, no one in the Kengan verse touches the upper tiers of Baki
I think it could go either way, both are beasts
No please make a video on Gilbert wu vs Kure rainin . I mean this is super hype at the moment . Hope you understand. After William death it’s super clear
Agreed Willem was an absolute powerhouse but Raian made him a freakin joke
I just don't see why we had to point to everyone but them to see their power levels esp in series like Baki where the power levels are whatever the hell the author wants them to be, I came into this expecting to see a real comparison between Jack and Raian and all I got was yapping about Yujiro's earthquake feat and Demon's bane
A rare miss man
It's still hard to believe that Baki is about to get some smoke from oma. That is something that was believed to be a fantasy fight that would only exist in our minds and now it has come to reality with no warning. It's so unbelievable I have actually gone back to watch the trailer multiple times I have to force myself to believe it.
Good breakdown, I think Raian wins he is melding techniques to his development that exceed his natural performance. Jack is taking the obscure path of a Hanma patterning his style around biting is a sneaky move, like a nut shot or hidden blade.
Both get frazzled when their best gets tanked, maybe they will get into deep water fights that drives them to go all out.
The Baki glazers are going crazy in the comments💀😂
Name one feat Or hope off the D
if he didnt go down drugs and treatment he could have been a better fighter, but hes just insane
Perfect video 👍👍👍
cheers m8
I think Jack is too big a target for Raian, especially with Raian's latest feats, jack just doesn't seem to match up fo raian.
Jack also has demon will or spirit
DUDE NEEDS TO STOP BITING PEOPLE.
Let's do this, the younger yujiro that fought baki as a 13 year old, stopped a Magnitude 6 earthquake, which is town level, or 15 kilotons of force, but when near current baki got hit by imaginary yujiro, it made an earthquake, a Magnitude 4, which is city block level, or 15 tons of force, so let's say baki is around city block level, hitting himself against a wall hard enough to knock him out, and if you do not know, 1000 tons is 1 kiloton, so how many times stronger is baki's feat vs yujiro's feats, yujiro's feat is literally 1000x that of baki's feat, and yujiro said himself that he gets stronger every day, not by a lot, but he does by little. So just like how a man grabbed onto a door handle as yujiro did, and overpowered him easily, those moments in the early age of baki manga, are massively inconsistent moments and aren't considered canon.
I DON'T THINK THEY FIGHT WITH THE CURRENT BAKI VERSE
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raian is winning. if not it's just bad writing
Very close fight, But Kure Raian have too many technique
No martial artist beats Hanma
homeless honeybun brick fists:
Knowing Rian, he would bite back in equal fashion 😂.
Raian never tried to bite anyone in the manga lol
@mike90susanoo84 yea, but given his arrogant nature, he might be like, "I can do that too" and may do it to toy around with him.
@@malex3606nah Jack chewed a nail and made it look like a piece of gum, raian ain’t gonna be doing nowhere near as much damage jack will do
People are gonna hate me, but my money on kure raian
We don’t hate you. You just have zero point
@derekgandlofini8058 I think people are underestimating raian a bit, especially when he's not trying. However, when he's serious, he could win but barely. I'm not saying Jack doesn't have a chance. No, that's dumb to think, but it would be an interesting fight
@@RyujibarbarianJacks body is hard as steel, good luck to raian even leaving a scratch on him even with his strongest techniques. I’m not low balling kengan ashura because I love it myself, but baki solos 9.9 of 10 times
I like Jack and I know my opinions are unpopular but Raian is winning this one.
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They’ll prolly make Jack lose the fight in the anime but at the same time nearly destroying Raian with the ref having to save him from getting a final blow from Jack
Bro they nerfed jack n u know it, Jack was BITING INTO HIM N CREATING HOLES IN HIS BODY, how tf does ohms beat him with punches but jack is literally biting holes n still looses
@@OfficialDraii dey nerfed Jack lmao looks like u can't accept da truth dat Raian can whoop Jack's ass
biggest advantage is jacks height, but I dont recall raian ever having a problem with that even without his family techniques
Well yeah Jack's height gonna give him some advantage but nt his weight at all
His bigges advantage is his strength you don’t read the series if you don’t watch him sleep from tress hanging from his jaw
Raian is fucked
I disagree, I think raian could probably beat Jack ifs he get serious
@@Ryujibarbariannot at all
Seeing its ashura and not omega raian would be far weaker for the match up i strongly believe omega raian could give jack a lot of life risks blows
Jack got the stats advantage (Strength, Speed, Durability)
Qhile the Raian got the technique and skills
@what_could_have_been_.Raian still loses to Waka and Julius. Current jack eats them for breakfast since he easily destroyed nomi who’s far stronger then waka and julius combined. Jack > Raian
@what_could_have_been_.tokugawa > Kengan verse
@what_could_have_been_.tokugawa would mid-high diff Yamashita
I have long said that people, due to their low intelligence, perceive everything they read as 100% truth and facts. If Oliver (author) hadn't said that his muscles couldn't destroy the entire prison basically it was a joke, people would bring up this "fact" in each power scale vid.Take other anime where the characters constantly say that they will kill someone but in the entire anime there are no murders at all. Your Spec who breaks the Statue of Liberty takes damage from a pistol and a small bomb in hand turns your "superman's" face to mush.It's just that in Kengan the characters don't fight cars, walls and ordinary people, that's the whole difference
they do fight cars and walls :)
@@mysteriousweeb nooo wayyy
Two boneheads
For jack I see him as slower than baki and Yujiro as he is more of a power fighter not a speed fighter. And some of the fastest confirmed feats are the super sonic punch in the pickle arc and baki moving in the half second knocking out Oliver for a bit. And jack isn't on that level I think the best person to scale him to would be Oliver as they both use there strength with a bit of technique.
As for raian the best speed feat we have is him blitzing 3 removed west wu members before anyone could realise and catching rei's punch without removal but that hasn't been confirmed for its speed and lastly the clash with ohma.
As for strength jack has many feats to go off of but raian really only has him lifting and throwing Mokichi Robinson with 1 hand. As all other feats are through techniques and the connector himself has stated that ohma shouldn't be to different from him in terms of physical stats so raian shouldn't be too much off either the techniques are what makes there physical strength harder to calculate.
All the Baki characters would win, but there manga isn’t as good.
Outdated mindset
@@mysteriousweebtrue fr both series r awesome nd relative close in power lvl
Answer is simple.....Just watch how in Omega Rain Brock in 2 pieces from up to down his opponent....you should need 10 horses in left and right side to do that....
Jack was lifting 500 lbs with his jaw well before the convict arc. This glazing is massive from kengan kids
Raian would win this quite easily,Jack is NOT on his level,the way he fights he would be fairly low diffed tbh
Well agreed
Bro wtf where did you read the Baki manga jack wins sorry to tell you even unconsciously he wins
He literally beat a guy that can make diamonds with his hands. That feat alone makes Waka and Julius look like infants
@@floppa731 yeah sure lol
@@floppa731 maybe ur an infant 2 think dat shit bruh 🤣🤣🤣
It's still hard to believe that Baki is about to get some smoke from oma. That is something that was believed to be a fantasy fight that would only exist in our minds and now it has come to reality with no warning. It's so unbelievable I have actually gone back to watch the trailer multiple times I have to force myself to believe it.
I’m confused how you argue for Jack is still above Raian in Removal? Raian has shown even back in Ashura he stat check Ohma when he was using advance and even now Raian just no diff Willian who has Superman Syndrome and Guihun which is 3.33 multiplier. If anything Raian stats check Jack. However in character I can see Jack catching Raian off guard since he bs a lot. However in bloodlust fight Raian taking it.
lol bloodlust Jack would still dominate
@what_could_have_been_. none of that matters when Jack killed a massive polar bear and held his ground against a flinstone mofo who ate dinosaurs lol. The setting isn’t even nowhere near omega either. Raian getting his ass whooped with or without removal
@what_could_have_been_. Raian ain’t doing shit to Jack lol. Yet that vehicle didn’t even do anything to him
he didn’t even get a scratch after getting hit why the hell would he be knocked out, he stood up instantly right after😂
@what_could_have_been_.answer my question, HOW did he knock out when he got up INSTANTLY and had ZERO damage then proceeded to flip the truck over and eat the damn meat
saying someone is stronger than someone else because they beat the person that beats them isn't really legit imo. some people can just beat certain people and not others in whatever direction you take it.
That is true, discussed quite abit in the kengan story. Which makes alot of the high tiers relative
@@mysteriousweeb ah I see. I will finish keegan before the movie drops then
@@mysteriousweeb I got up to the dirty fighting officer
Ngl Kure gone destroy him
You should come back to this when we see more
It being a close fight doesn’t really make sense considering kure is a assassin superhuman while jack is a 7’9 drug abuser
This is fiction
Bruhhh
Remember it’s for the fans but we know who would win….
It’s for the fans bro but we know who would win….
@@Beast-fq7rp if jack doesn’t go feral I won’t support him I wanna see him… idek like shit can you imagine a 7’9 drug abuser tryna bite you id be terrified 😂
Hyper-Bowl.
I dunno bro, can Jack lift 20 UNEVEN kg?
Good video. Raian would take Jack down. Oh, and I hate being one those people, but it's pronounced hi per bowl Lee. Hyperbole.
9:37
For real, Naruto stomps
Against kid goku yes
@@markomurisic1354😂😂😂 true
7.11, not 7.9
God i love this anime.
Kure Raian is both faster and stronger than Jack. The only chance for Jack to win is to get Raian in choke or a bite somehow due to insane animalistic nature of Raian. If he doesn't, he is cooked.
Yea jack mid diffs
YALL ARE TALKING BOUT RAIAN WHO COULDNT BEAT OHMA HAHAHA HE NOT TOUCHING BAKI OR JACK ON HIS BEST DAY LOL, y’all are pure delusional.
...not according to the movie where he kicked the shit out of jack
I wouldnt trust Vsbattles wiki coz they biased af and lowball Marvel & Dc buy hopefully they get the anime stuff right
Ummmm...... Im thinking balls
*Vine Sound Effect* 🤨
Jack win the verse
Bro i see you two times
Raian claps Jack. The over ration of these characters is tiring
Jack
- hangs from tree asleep to train
- moves at subsonic speeds
- tanks shots from city level characters
- beaten sukune, 3 thugs, sirosky, Ali JR, polar bear
Name me one thing raian has done
What overrating? Jack defeated a guy who can make diamonds with his hands and has x ray vision. And mid diffed a guy in the beginning of the series that has feats comparable or above Julius
@@floppa731Exactly, I wouldn’t be surprised if these kengan trds can’t even read the names of other characters from different series let alone knowing their capabilities aside from their own😂
Jack easily trounces raian. No diff at all ashura fans can suck on the copium
Jack wins easily
Otakemaru ftw
Sadly jack will loses
raian low diff baki verse
Raian gonna kill jack but it’s high diff fasho😂
I got money on raian
It's still hard to believe that Baki is about to get some smoke from oma. That is something that was believed to be a fantasy fight that would only exist in our minds and now it has come to reality with no warning. It's so unbelievable I have actually gone back to watch the trailer multiple times I have to force myself to believe it.