I lived in Montreal during the referendum. What I remember most was the Yes side trying hard to explain a very complicated situation with many possibilities, and the No side just playing the fear card over and over again.
The Quebec nationalists were trying too be clever? They knew some Quebecer wanted full independence & wanted their support, some only wanted greater autonomy & they wanted their support also, they knew the "non-Francophone" population would fear independence & they hoped to pacify & confuse them w/ ambivalent language. One wonders if a simple straight up independence vote would have won?
@@hehehsha2904 It depends. I'd vote for independence if it meant a far more leftist country. If it meant Canada, but French, like it was in 1995, fuck that. You have to realize that the Quebec independence movement historically is an unsteady alliance of Nationalists, Racists and Conservatives, as well as revolutionaries, "mondialistes", leftists and Socialists. I feel that this isn't understood in the anglophone community... the commentaries and feuds weren't reported on by the Anglophone media...
If Quebec became independent, I can't imagine that the western provinces would secede. Most of their grievances are from Ontario/Quebec domination of Canada, and without Quebec they simply would no longer have this grievance.
theyd still see more economic opportunities in joining the states and wouldn’t like dealing with ottawa and ontario’s oversight and align a lot more with the us so theyd definitely see the opportunity and join
Quebec would not have joined France, that's stupid. Also, Quebec's the biggest hydroelectricity producer in North America, which would have made it a rich country in North America.
That statement is much more ambiguous than you might think. The Canadian Federal Government had asked the First Nations in Quebec if they wanted to separate, and they did not. So, the province of Quebec, with the borders most people think of, would not be allowed to separate. Instead, a "free and independent Quebec", would be a small rectangle, not much larger than the Gaza Strip, on the north banks of the St. Lawrence River.
@@bingodeluxe Well, the one thing we do know is that most First Nations within the province of Quebec don't trust the idea of an independent Quebec government to manage their affairs. Additionally, the quality of life of the average Quebecer would be reduced greatly due to the removal of their "welfare status" within Canada. The fact that the rest of Canada is presently throwing $13 billion at Quebec, and all they can manage to do with it is balance their budget, shows that Quebecers don't know how to manage their economy.
I think the idea of any other provinces deciding to leave Canada is highly overstated. Very few people seriously entertain this idea. And joining the US is extremely unlikely.
It was a close vote in 1995. But if you're talking about 2018, you're absolutely right. I haven't seen the numbers lately, but my understanding is that support for secession has only plummeted since 1995 in Quebec, the only province where that's taken seriously as an idea by any organized political movement. As an American, spending time abroad, I'm always shocked when people bring up Texas as an example of an American secessionist movement. What they don't get is that it's not a serious idea in Texas. Texans have a lot of state pride, which is unusual - you don't see that in Illinois or Ohio or North Dakota. All that "Republic of Texas" talk is kind of like an inside joke among Texans, a way to express that state pride, but it's emphatically not a serious political pursuit. I'm thinking it's in the lower single-digits in terms of actual support. Knowing about that example, from personal experience, would lead me to be a bit skeptical when I hear about secessionist desires in the other Canadian provinces, because I wouldn't be surprised to learn it was kind of like the non-serious Republic of Texas talk you hear there.
absolutely agree. however, in a generation or two, the situation will be very different. there's a very low chance that the atlantic provinces would remain part of a country from which they're physically separated by 1000+km of Québec. Within one generation I see them either creating their own country, joining Québec, or joining the US. As for Ontario and west, they could certainly survive, but I think within 2 generations you'll start to see a real support for joining the US. Economic reasons (closer economic links between the US and Canadian provinces than between canadian provinces), cultural reasons (without Québec, we lose a cultural powerhouse and one of the few things that distinguishes Canadian culture from US culture). Not nearly as guaranteed as in the east, but still, I see difficulties in maintaining the country long term.
Fair enough, given a few decades public opinion can change. I could certainly see the maritimes wanting to go their own way (though they'd be pretty screwed economically). And I could see the provinces west of Ontario getting fed up with them running the show and consider starting their own country. I still doubt that any of them would join the US though.
+snufflufikist I disagree with this, I live is the east, People love the rights are freedoms of canada also If we were to join the USA we would lose our great healthcare. also trump is ruining our relations with the us too
Have you ever read the book "The Morning After: The 1995 Quebec Referendum and the Day That Almost Was"? It's all about the political climate in Canada during the time of the referendum. I think you might be interested.
Kinda like the anglos butchering the hell out of Montréal (THE "T" IS LITERALLY SILENT,WE LITERALLY PRONOUNCE IT "Mont-réal" but the extra "t" added after "mon" is just for the french word "mont" and yet they still butcher it by ssying "Mon-t-real"
Of course the rest of Canada would want to join the USA. Québec is the big source of distinctive cultural and economical element that make english canadians "borrow" them to differenciate from the USA. But no fear my friends. Most québécois simply feel like the province has always been cut appart already and generally act like it is. It's called the "two solitudes". No problem if each founding people ignore each other.
Alot of Canadians including myself would hate quebec independence. For 2 reasons: First is that Canada would be split into 2. Second is that we will be smaller than the Us
While that's a mistake it's not out of the question, French people make up a large portion of NB and they don't really play ball with the rest of the country when it comes to anglo vs franco, NB would likely split in two
Totally incorrect, while most of us in north east New-Brunswick are french, we do not share the same values of our brothers from the west. That said, we/I respect them and their choices, but we have other values of our own which are not inclusive.
@@kb-tm2hm it'd still be the 17th wealthiest country in the world, and it'd possess many of the infrastructures and resources Canada needs. So I think, like most people, that Québec would be more than able to become its own country. Plus, Québec is the 4th province to get the least from perequation.
If independance happened, we probably would’ve tried to bring in the French parts of Ontario and Acadia with us where we could all live peacefully in French, like we used to before the British took over 260 years ago...
As I read the comments, I realize there is a misconception. Quebec is not and doesn’t want to be a part of France. Actually, French people are disliked by the Quebeckers. Even if it is true that, back then, the population was upset about being part of the British empire, it was not because they left the French empire, but rather because of the new empire that didn’t recognize them and their rights, just like the British previously did with the Acadians. Following that, the French Canadians were poorer and less educated than the other Canadians, and never really had the recognition they needed. Of course, that led to an identity crisis.
Between a french and an american, the people from Quebec will put the american arrogance before the french one. They do not like the american supremacy idea. But I agree 100% for the rest of your comment.. See how the Cajuns have been unconsidered by the Americans. The French canadians have discovered 70% of north america
Im from Toronto and I love Montreal. Me and my partner are planning to learn French in a group once the pandemic is over, and we hope that one day entire Canada will be able to speak both languages freely. At least I promise my children will. Please don't separate, togother is better
you really hate yourself😂 Any reasonable person is looking for the chance to move out and you want to move in😂 good luck, make sure you dodge enough potholes so your car makes it to montreal on your drive in🤣
I don't know how old you are, I don't know if you knew the time of Meech Lake on the attempts at reconciliation between Quebec and the rest of Canada, Quebec asked for the minimum to be able to keep and save its language and its culture, Trudeau (the father) and Jean Chrétien sabotaged the agreement one night with the other provinces and in the morning Quebec was isolated and the project had just failed. Very few Canadians are aware of this story that Quebec has felt like a betrayal. A few weeks after the polls showed that 62% of Quebecers would vote YES to separation from Canada. Today with the Supreme Court wanting to invalidate Quebec's laws 21 and 96, the Quebec separatist movement is regaining strength and nationalist sentiment is increasingly present in the media and voting intentions.
I really hate how these oversimplifications gloss over that Quebecs original name before British rule was "canada". The lands along the saint Lawrence were called Canada.
I remember that in the lead up to the vote the Cree and Inuit First Nations stated that they would rather remain in Canada and, if Quebec had voted yes, the province would end up back to its 1912 borders. Came as a bit of a shock to the sovereigntists who of course said that the Cree and Inuit couldn't separate from Quebec.
@@jbqu3142 I should have been more clear. I meant the borders prior to the passage of the Quebec Boundaries Extension Act, 1912, that transferred the District of Ungava to Quebec. The region known as Labrador and currently part of Newfoundland was NOT part of Quebec in 1912. It hadn't been part of Quebec since 1791 and was given to the control of the British colony of Newfoundland in 1809.
@@bingodeluxe Oh please. An independent Quebec would not be some paradise for anyone, let alone the Cree and and other First Nations peoples. Hydro Quebec would have to continue to pay a significant sum to the new Cree territory. It isn't like the company could just pack up the dams and move them. You think taxes are high currently in Quebec? An independent Quebec would lose the transfer payment it currently receives, which is more than it pays to the federal government in taxes. It would have to come up with its own military forces. It would take on part of the current national debt on top of its current provincial debt of almost $225 billion. Unless it established its own currency, it would have to keep the Canadian dollar or choose to use some other currency like the US dollar. Either way it would have absolutely no say in monetary policy. Have the First Nations been treated badly in the past? Yes. But Quebec was not guiltless in such treatment of First Nations people. The Mohawk, Cree, and Innuit voted 96% against Quebec separation in the 1995 referendum.
I know this video is 5 years old, but I suggest you read "Night Probe" by Clive Cussler. It deals with Canada facing a crisis of Quebec seceding, but with a twist. It is more techno-thriller but is also an alternate history.
0:58 Actually most Quebecois would have not voted on that question. The question they would have voted on would be: Acceptez-vous que le Québec devienne souverain, après avoir offert formellement au Canada un nouveau partenariat économique et politique, dans le cadre du projet de loi sur l'avenir du Québec et de l'entente signée le 12 juin 1995?
Great video. Minor correction: Newfoundland and Labrador is not a part of the Maritime provinces. The Maritime provinces are Nova Scotia, New Brunswick, and Prince Edward Island. The Atlantic provinces are Nova Scotia, New Brunswick, Prince Edward Island, and Newfoundland and Labrador.
As a native-level speaker of both English and French who is from Quebec, I can safely say that the French pronunciation of Quebec by French speakers is roughly "Kay-beck", due to the acute accent on the first E (Québec). Anglo-Quebeckers pronounce the province's name differently, both from francophones but also from other Canadians. In the Quebec English dialect/accent (it's a bit of both), the first vowel sound is more of an "uh" that borders on being a glottal stop (Kuh-beck or almost K'beck). It almost sounds like the acute accent was replaced with a grave accent (Quèbec) in how they say it. Anglo-Quebeckers follow the two quick syllable pacing much like francophones and never draw out the syllables like other English speakers often do. I've heard some Ontarians try to approximate the Anglo-Quebecker way of saying and getting something like "Kobec" (getting the first vowel not quite right, with it morphing closer to an O sound) but most non-Quebecker anglophones will introduce a W sound into the first syllable (Kwuh-beck) and some Westerners will pronounce the first E as a long E for some reason (Kwee-beck). They also overstress and stretch out the syllables in ways that sound really strange to a local from the province. Basically, if you hear a W sound in the province's name, the speaker is definitely not from there. No one in Quebec, whether their mother tongue is English or French, ever uses anything but a French sounding of the QU in the name (i.e. a K sound, never ever a KW like in English).
When we learned about this in Canadian history classes, the option of a Canadian province joining the USA literally never came up. I don't thank even the most conservative Canadian provinces would want to be American...
Well that's because every canadian who wants to be American just moves south to the US. I.E. Steven Crowder and Gavin McInnes, two famous french canadians who moved to America because they were unhappy with the direction their country was going in.
k well at least we don't have to show insurance before getting help or having to pay off a crippling dept. Emergency care is as fast as the US and has all the innovation.
If Quebec left, I would want my home Alberta to join the USA. It would be the safest option for our future. It pains me to say this as it basically is me being forced to surrender my culture for stability. I just don't want my Canadian brothers in Quebec to leave.
The people who founded Canada could had prevent all of this, if they had really made Canada a bilingual country and teach every kid both language since there youth, we would never had those problem and 2d we would be more unite then ever, but no in the 1800 many provinces voted law to interdict french teaching in schools.....
This would be a terrible idea, as forcing the Western Canadian's children to learn both languages would be absurd. French is not too common there as opposed to Quebec and the maritime provinces.
@@c.j.8263 i think its not absurd. If you learn a second language you're going to be smarter. Im glad To speak french so i can appreciate the music, the cinema in french and go to french speaking countries, and its also awesome that i understand english so i can do the same. The best is when you speak frenglish. Arent you proud when you speak another language?
To make it a mandatory language in all the country would be stupid, as not all of Canada is interested in being forced to learn 2 languages. @@Ame-zv5lj
@@c.j.8263 The thing is french used to be quite big in the western provinces until the late 19th, early 20th century. (not in B.C. though). It was thoroughly eradicated. I don't see the problem with learning a second language at a national scale. In Quebec we're forced to learn english from the moment we start school nowadays. It goes both ways. That is, if we want to grow as a united country. If we don't then sure, let's remove all french outside of Quebec, and let's grow apart from one another. Which option is better? Who knows.
What if? Well, for starters we wouldn't be paying 7.1 billion tax dollars to Indians (aboriginals for those with thin skin) every 5 years that's for fucking damn sure...............
+flypaper flipper Your utter inability to communicate in anything approaching a cogent or fact-based manner is your concern, dummy. But I doubt you need a "mental health assessment" as being a right-wing idiot is not recognized by the DSM-V.
I like Quebec but we should not be trying to live together. Our failure to live comfortably together is evidence of how hard it is for different cultures to live within the bosom of a single state. Just imagine how much harder it is going to be with many cultures living here and clinging to there own dress, food, religion, and ways.
The most probable outcome to a ¨yes¨ vote would be sovereignty-association; which means that Quebec would become a normal country and would have an economic association with the rest of Canada. Why is it the most probable outcome? Because an independent Quebec would cut Canada in two and because it would control the only essential territory of Central canada, from Alberta to the Atlantic ocean, namely the St-Lawrence valley where all the communication systems of English Canada pass for pure economic reasons: the St-Lawence Seaway, the Transcanadian highway, the train system, the pipelines, etc.). We really know what we are talking about in Quebec!
So the referendum wasn't even actually for independence, but whether they should ask the government nicely if they could be independent? Very Canadian of them, don't see why they think they're so different. Also, what Canadian province would want to willingly join the United States!
James Pennington This guy doesn't know much about Canada. The western Provinces (not states) are not all conservative. Alberta and Saskatchewan are (all though they weren't allways). However British Columbia is the most left wing province in Canada
TheWaross From 1963 to 1979, the RCMP (Royal Canadian Mounted Police) fought relentlessly against the independence movement in Quebec. Manipulations, provocations, burglaries, arson, conspiracies, these are some of the most famous misdeeds of the RCMP during this secret war. In 1970, after the assassination of the federal minister Pierre Laporte, the antiterrorist section of the Montreal police recruits Carole Devault to infiltrate the FLQ (Front de liberation du Québec) and discovers where James Richard Cross is sequestered. To prove her credibility within the group, the young woman does not hesitate to organize a hold-up. But its activities will not stop with the end of the October crisis. It will set up cell cells of the FLQ and commit with accomplices a series of terrorist acts. The police will thus succeed in maintaining a climate of fear and insecurity among the population and slowing down the independence movement. In 1972, the RCMP set up, with the help of the CIA, the Ham-to-the-list operation of 60,000 party members. No less than 44 sequestrators of this extraordinary and totally illegal mission. On the night of July 26, 1974, survivor of the first terrorist attack for more than a year and a half. The target is the home of the heiress of Steinberg supermarkets. The police discovered that the attacker was an RCMP officer, Robert Samson, who worked for the anti-terrorist squad. At his trial, the man revealed that this terrorist act was not the only one. His confession will trigger the Keable and McDonald inquiry into the Canadian secret service. We see that the RCMP regularly uses illegal methods to come to an end. On May 7, 1992, Claude Morin, Minister for Intergovernmental Affairs and close ally of René Lévesque. and "French Menuet", he received over $ 12,000 from the RCMP.
As a western Canadian, I remember everyone on our side of the country rooting for independence at the time. None of us wanted Quebec to remain part of the country, and I can tell you that the majority of westerners still wish they'd separate. I think if a referendum were held in Canada today regarding whether Quebec should be expelled from Canada a sizable majority of those in BC, Alberta and Saskatchewan would be showing them the door.
*A more pragmatic solution consists in urging Québécois to leave the Canadian Confederation about which they never signed the constitution of 1982 by becoming a politically independent country friendly with the other democratic countries of the world. The famous slogan “Maîtres chez nous” by the late Jean Lesage will resonate very favorably in the distinct society that is Québec at the next major constitutional conflict between Québec and Ottawa, and this will result in a geopolitical realignment that has not yet been completed. Thus, the poorly taught French in the predominantly English-speaking provinces of Canada would no longer have to be taught and, in Québec, the school curriculum will continue to include the compulsory teaching of English as a second language during all the first 11 years of schooling. Therefore, Québec will have an additional economic advantage by doing business with predominantly English-speaking countries as well as with other predominantly French-speaking ones, without political interference from English Canada. Consequently, the perception of a bilingual elite in the federal government will dissipate and the Anglo-Saxons will thus continue to encourage their fellow citizens to speak English in their English Canada as they have done in all the regions of the world that they have conquered militarily.*
1:25 this is absolutely false. The yes camp was working very hard to be ready for a hard dialogue with Canada. This is totally false, I invite people to do research on this. The canada also said vague thing about working for Québec to enter the constitution and reopen the constitution, but that never happened.
The supreme court ruled that the federal governement should be forced to negociate. The federal parliament also voted that they should decide if the result of a referendum on independance got a sufficient number but I don't think that it is compatible with the rest of the jurisprudence, making the feds both judge and actor on such a matter and reducing to nothing the previous ruling of the court. The scot's strategy was based on this experience and made it into a sort of gentlemen agreement. Unfortunately the harline path choosen by Madrid is far different from what happened in Quebec and Scotland.
Ce n'est pas avec la CAQ et François Legault au pouvoir qu'un troisième référendum soit à l'agenda des Québécois, même si ce gouvernement subit les affronts répétés d'un Justin Trudeau concernant ses demandes, en matière d'immigration, par exemple. Peut-on aussi compter sur les les milléniaux et la génération Z davantage tournés vers le monde, grâce à la technologie de l'information et les réseaux sociaux qu'ils maîtrisent bien ? Pour la plupart, un Québec indépendant n'est pas une nécessité, voire un non-sense. Aussi, la donne a changé depuis 1995, soit l'afflux massif depuis d'immigrants pour qui, la terre d'accueil est le Canada d'abord bien qu'ils se soient établis au Québec. Si en 1995 l'échec du référendum sur la souveraineté du Québec a été attribué à "des votes ethniques et l'argent", selon le premier ministre de l'époque, Jacques Parizeau, imaginons les résultats d'un troisième référendum sur la souveraineté du Québec aujourd'hui avec ces quelques obstacle. Bien que 100 % favorable, je n'ose pas y penser. Vive le Québec libre !
Québec had direct support and recognition from UK France and Germany They saw Canada as the unstable country and possible enemy because it had just converted into Socialism and many considered Socialism as a form of Communism (Canada is stil Socialist today) so i really dont see why the pro-Capitalist US would want to help Canada. They much rather help the more Capitalist Québec.
Idk what you're talking about but Quebec is way way more socialist than any Canadian Province. It even has the highest taxes and still manages not gather enough funds to run its socialist policies.
Dude, high taxes is a Capitalist thing. If it were Socialist, it would only tax the rich and have no taxes at all for the poor. But clearly this is not the case. Ontario is the most Socialist province and i should know since i LIVE HERE! As a poor when i do my yearly tax report i actual get money from the provincial government. Québec would never do that. Look up the law 101 of Québec, its another Capitalist rule that you will only see in Québec. The reason Québec is always low is because it spends everything in its military and in its french school/propaganda and it build way too many huge projects in the middle of nowhere. But if we anger them by not giving them money then they deploy their military and by the way, Québec has over 60% of the entire Canadian military so... We have no choice.
I have studied the Canadian political system and from what I have gathered, it's opposite the one we have in the US in that, in America, any rights not specifically granted to the federal government is assumed to be granted to each state (states rights) but in Canada, it's the opposite; any right not specifically granted to the provinces is assumed to be granted to Ottawa. In effect, the only rights the Canadian federal government has is a foreign policy, a national defense and the issuance of a common currency. Since Canadian provinces enjoy almost the same level of autonomy that Bermuda has, for example, each province is already a de facto sovereign nation so even if Quebec ever did become an independent nation, nothing much would change in reality. French is already the only official language of the province.
The reason why the ruling party has control over the executive branch is because Canada, like the UK, has a parliamentary system of government. In such a system, there is no separation of powers like the American system because the executive branch is derived from the legislative one. IOW, the PM is also an MP. A US President, on the other hand, cannot hold any other office while serving. The fact remains, however, that Canadian provinces have many more rights than US states because there has been greater devolution of power in Canada than in America which, IMO, is probably a good thing.
What I find interesting, Ben, is that during the first PQ Administration in Quebec which lasted from 1976-1985, then-PM. Trudeau had stated that Canada will not degenerate into a civil war to keep Quebec from seceding like the US had done with the Confederacy. I don't know if Canadian provinces have the right to secede but I do know that no US state has that right (Texas used to when it joined the Union in 1845 but because it fought on the side of the Confederacy during the Civil War, it lost that right during Reconstruction). The fact that Ottawa in 1980 and 1995 permitted a referendum on Quebec independence proves my point. No US state would ever be allowed to hold such a referendum.
In the case of the US, the Supreme Court ruled way back in 1869 in Texas v White that secession was unconstitutional when it decided that "Texas (and the rest of the Confederacy) never left the Union during the Civil War, because a state cannot unilaterally secede from the United States". IOW, the Confederacy's act of secession was never recognized by the US government. Think of the US as the Hotel California; once you check in, you can never leave!!!
More like enough money if the french didnt lose the 7 years war most of canada and central usa all the way to new orleans were french area ,after the defeat at the seven years war king louis sent his army to avenge the loss as a reinforcment to the american revolutionary army and then bankrupt the country and that was the main cause for the french revolution some years after the revolutions napolèon took power but in that time france were still broke from the revolution so money was the problem
Of Quebec cessedes , it will own all of its natural resources and can tax the population and keep all the profits. Issue its own currency too without influence of central banks.
Well the currency thing, was going to be temporary, maybe 10-20 year, like your going to switch overnight your Currency, Euro took DECADE to switch in most country ... Federalist used that as a punch line, but it was pretty obvious to most intelligent people ....
When Quebec had the independence referendum Alaska had just elected a representative from the Alaskan Independence Party as governor. He talked about joining up with British Colombia if they also voted to become independent. So we may have seen Alaska leaving the United States and joining BC.
James Pennington I don't think Alaska would ever join Canada. The people of Alaska seem to be very patriotic, and uniquely independent. I think they would rather stay a part of America.
Parizeau had secured enough money on the international market to be sure that the Quebec government would have enough money to keep the place running for at least a year.
I'm from Saskatchewan & It doesn't surprise me that we would consider joining the USA back in 1995. Our economy was bleak back then (When Regina got its first Toys 'R' Us in the early 1990s, there were hundreds of resumes from people desperate for a minimum wage job) & the USA was viewed as this magnificent place. Then 2001/09/11 happened & our views quickly changed.
Since I actually have a background in international law and customs treaties I can say the majority of what you said is nonsense. The major point is your "belief" that a win for the independence side could be blocked. General support for independence in Quebec was very much higher than 49%. This was suppressed by offers of reform by the Canadian government that answered the immediate reasons for enough of those supporters to push the OUI vote below 50%. Attempts to use what would have been a biased anti-Quebec Canadian government and court to impose a union, would have discredited that pro reform section of the NON vote. A disillusioned pro reform group and an enraged OUI group would then have been united into a heavy majority support for independence. At this point a continued union could only have been maintained by force. Few governments have the stomach for the actions necessary to force a union. That is even ignoring the economic and political disruption it would lead to across the rest of Canada. Your flights of fancy into the annexation of large portions of Canadian territory into the USA deserve no respect as they demonstrate a complete lack of understanding of basic elements of international law and how sovereign territory is defined. The most likely outcome would have been some form of Canadian Zollverein. Other parts of Canada might have followed Quebec so creating a Canada of three or four sub states of politically equal status. These sub states may have been formed of one or more the existing provinces. Something of a closer political and economic relationship than the EU but looser than the USA. It is the threat of annexation by the USA not the possibility of leaving Canada and joining the USA that would be the impetus.
Hélas ! Toutefois, il n'est pas dit que ce ne pourra pas arriver un jour, avec PSPP à la tête du PQ, qui petit à petit, monte dans les sondages (22 %, octobre 2023). On sait qu'un Québec indépendant est viable, les Charest, Couillard et Legault en sont aussi convaincus.
Honesty if the Berlin Wall fell independently without consent from the USSR no matter how well reformed. Would likely be seen as a failure of the reformists by hardliners, the miliary and the KGB and there would have a coup against the reformists leaders and a very likely chance of a conventional war. I was actually imagining Moscow would encourage reforms in their satellite states and allow the Eastern bloc to survive mostly intact to this day. Expect for Germany where the GDR would enter a union with West Germany a few years off from the present.
Well the winner write history, it's like the french out west, they are pretty much extinct (Like in New england), Ontario french are on the fast track to assimilation (More than half who have french as a mother tongue in Ontario don't speak french at home, it's a pretty grim sight), I hope New Brunswick stay strong, and stay the course .....
I mean that’s pretty weak to say actually 🤔 there are large pockets of french speakers all over Canada my family is french from New Brunswick soooooo yeah
If Quebec separated from Canada, my guess is that the maritime islands would join the US or become US territories. Or they would attempt to join Quebec and then they could form a more sustainable quebec.
We might not have won (yet) but Hell did we gave a fight for our cultural, religious and language rights! Our ancestors fought for it and gave their blood, we are still fighting but with our votes. Other countries might not understand, Scotland and Ireland would, they are loosing their gaelic language year after year we don't want the same to happen in Quebec.
Enough taxpayer money to pay for the basics. Enough profits for the major companies. But when they want a new highway or arena (Videotron Centre), they expect other Provincial taxpayers to chip in.
FOUR THINGS WOULD HAVE HAPPENED: 1. TRUMP WOULD HAVE MADE A MESS OUT OF QUEBEC. 2. FRENCH WOULD HAVE DISAPPEARED FROM WEST CANADA. 3. SPANISH WOULD HAVE BECOME THE SECOND POPULAR LANGUAGE IN WEST CANADA. 4. THE BEST PAID PEOPLE IN QUEBEC WOULD HAVE BEEN THE BILINGUALS.
You’re right in live in Quebec and if Quebec separate everyone would move back to Canada i mean Quebec tried to separate twice and they failed enough is enough
@@JACOBHAMEL4 Le Québec ne survivra pas après l'indépendance. Après les deux référendums proposés par René Lévesque, des milliers d'anglophones (les plus riches) sont partis vers l'ontario. Est-ce que tu t'es déjà demandé pourquoi l'économie de Toronto a surpassé celui de Montreal ainsi que la population? Ben, c'est à cause de cela. Si le Québec devient vraiment indépendant, c'est comme si tu perdais les gens responsables à l'économie québécoise. De plus, on a fait un sondage pour savoir qui veut l'indépendance et qui ne le veut pas. Et tsé quoi, 94% ont voté pour que le Québec reste avec le Canada.
Jacob Hamel bro le Québec va jamais devenir un pays🤡 c toi qui doit renseigner tu penses vraiment le vont voter oui 🤡 si le oui gagne tt monde vont skurrrr surtout les moune de mtl anyway tes juste un autre kebz qui aime pas le Canada. But for me Canada for life 🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦 et oublie pas la dernière fois le Québec a essayé de se séparer Montreal a perdu son économie 🙃
There's a few factual mistakes in this video. For one, the Western Bloc wouldn't have gotten Nunavut to join them as Nunavut was formed in 1999. It was part of the Northwest Territories in 1995.
i live in Ontairio CANADA AND DO NOT WANT QUEBEC TO LEAVE CANADA,BECAUSE I`S BEEN WITH US SINCE 1867 AND ONE OF 4 1ST PROVINCES OF CANADA,AND ON IS ONE OF THEM .
What about First Nation treaty issues? I'm pretty sure Quebec would've had to gain consent from the First Nations of the region or come to some other arrangement with them.. Which I don't think would've been possible..
Most of, if not all, Treaty territories cross provincial boarders. If Quebec was, or were, to separate it would most likely cause a domino effect between Canada, Quebec its self, and all First nations treaty territories this would also be compounded with all the issues of unceded land disputes. And another kicker, Canada is constitutionally obligated to uphold the treaty agreements and treaty rights.
The FN would be well advised to rethink their position by taking a look at what a real treaty done with mutual respect can lead to: "la paix des braves" between Quebec and the James Bay Cree made it so that the Cree are thriving, while their Ontarian conterpart are literally in a third world country standard of living. Anyway, it's more a negociation tactics than anything; they don't care for any allegiances they want to be paid the most. They are just playing hard to get.
FN treaty rights and relations are extremely complex. For the example of James Bay Cree Nation doing better recently I compare the smuggling routes general poverty of Mohawk Nations on the border between Quebec and USA with the Rama Nation near Toronto. Rama is doing really well with day trips to their casino from the big city and the Mohawk make illegal tobacco.
I fucking DIED LAUGHING at 0:35 with his pronunciation of "Parti Quebecois:!!!! Then again at 1:35 with "Jacques Pari-ZOO"! LMFAO This video has so many fucking inaccuracies, it's not even funny.
Then Canada would have been quite literally torn asunder with Quebec wedging its noggin through North America, and the Maritimes and NL (not part of the former, get it right everyone) would have been, ahem, cornered. Signed, an Anglo-Quebecer.
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@Nice to have found this abstract on youtube, i like it that other people are interested by us. I will tell you some mistakes you made tho (my main research subject is Quebec's history). First, your title is wrong, you are just explaning the history mixed with some farfetched stuff about what would happen if 1:20 wrong map worse 1:30 is really not true, both referendums were on Quebec independence from Canada, becoming a country. Having economic partnership is not being part of a country because if so you would also need to say that Canada is american (because it has almost always been the biggest economic partner with lots of treaties and such. 2:25 it is funny how canadians (i mean, anglophones, we do not consider ourselves as canadians, we are québécois, and really far after, we are canadians) NEVER say that ahah, but you're right and I like it. I am really sure that most of canadians, including french-canadians, would never want to join the United States, this is a really big invention of you. 4:20 Really false also, for example, Quebec had (and still have) really good relations with France (also, Quebec may be the first state being part of a bigger state to build relationships with other country, they made commercial treaties and such since the 19th century) and would easily recognise this hypothetical country 5:50 nobody never was sure of what would really happen after, but I really think that those are part of all the ''Arguments de peur'' (arguments of fear) that would be all the gossips about the whats and not that would happen, like the banks that would move all the money to Toronto (the NO side actually did that in 1970 (look at ''Coup de la brinks Quebec'' on google) sorry, not used to tell history in english.
tipaul1 About USA, it was actually the United States who invited the province to join their federation. The idea didn't come from separatists. After the facts, we realised it was probably to check on the socialist development of the province since they planned to invade if Quebec did separate.
Enunciate, for God's sake. Take your time so that you can be understood. I replayed your name six times, and if it was not written as part of the Patreon link I would still not have any idea what it is. Oh, and "1861 slave rebellion", did you make that up yourself?
I was expecting a very Anglo centric view on the referendum and yep, that is exactly what your video is. Full of assumptions that really shows you don't have a smick of a clue what you are talking about. You are doing our country a great disservice by polarizing options.
0:50 There is nothing like a very clear question to determine the destiny of a people. The person that wrote that referendum question must have been on both acid and crack cocaine at the time. You'll have to run the rest of my comment through Bing Translator. It's only fitting to address "le peuple Quebecois" in their own language with a couple of quick comments: 1. Vous devriez remercier le Canada anglais pour la protection de la langue et de la culture françaises. Si vous étiez de l'autre côté de la frontière des États-Unis, il n'y aurait pas de langue ou de culture française en Amérique du Nord. 2. Il n'est jamais trop tard pour apprendre la prochaine langue officielle du Québec: l'arabe.
Why is this still a subject? Im a french canadien, my father taught me english when i was 6 since he knew how important that was. Once that barrier is gone, Indenpendance seems so dumb. The only one rooting for it are the french canadien ''artist'' community and some of the dying babyboomers who never care to speak '' foreign'' engriiiish. I dont pretend to know the world, nor can i speak for everyone, but im in my mid 30s, and i dont know ANYONE wanting to leave Canada. Its like a subject people brings up just to stear shit and drama. You french hating canadien brothers and sister, i invite you to come here and feel the room for yourself. Reading shit from keyboard warriors is one thing, but having the warmest welcome from a broken english accent while having a drink is something else. That of course, is just my humble opinion.
it's seem dumb because of people who represent the subject.. like fucken pauline marois shit.. no credibility and clearly corrupt to raise down the real reason and ripoff the moral
Im a french canadian who learned english very young too, but i have a different point of view on the subject. Independence for me is not just about the culture and language, but about the values we share as a community, quebec is very different in many ways then the rest of canada and thats pretty objective (in all my subjectivity) its only logical to have the rights to our economy, laws and constitution.
About the idea that if Québec were to become independent, the aboriginals and anglos that voted no would want to stay in Canada is dumb. If so why didn't the regions of Québec that voted Yes are making a country? Because Québec, the nation of Québec, is a whole. Of course there will be people for and against. But the majority prevails. Also, it would be stupid and espacially sad if the natives would want to separate from Québec and join Canada. Why should they even do that? They would have a lot more chances to be recognized in being part of a new country than in the actual Canada. Logically, if they (the natives) were to leave, they should leave Canada now, not Québec when it becomes a country.
Also, a record of immigrant become Canadian in Quebec province during the years 1995. Now it's the turn of the anglo-saxons to be diluted by immigration with the other Trudeau...
I would love it if Canada wanted to unionize with the US. Living in Vermont would not seem like being on the ultra left fringes of american politics anymore. Vermont is more Canadian than American, and having all those provinces joining the union would push the the Senate far to the left. The US would end up with an NHS and more reasonable funding of post secondary education. I believe a new name for the union would be in order, The United States of North America. I am not sure how we would organize our spelling rules, would it be labor or labour etc?
c'est drôle comment les indépendantistes sont incapable d'imaginer le futur. Ils ne regardent même as les conséquences que cela pourrait avoir et se jutifie leur désir de partir simplememnt avec des arguments émotionnels.
The biggest problem with this take was the claim that Quebec somehow benefits the rest of Canada in a monetary sense. It doesn't. Ever since the implementation of Equalization Payments (whereby "have provinces" (those with good economies) transfer money to "have not provinces" (whose with poor economies)) in 1957, Quebec has always been a "have not" province. In fact, since 1957, over 50% of all pay-outs in Equalization Payments have went to Quebec. However, despite all this assistance, Quebec is also the most indebted province on a per capita basis. Economically, Quebec is a massive drain on the rest of Canada.
I lived in Montreal during the referendum. What I remember most was the Yes side trying hard to explain a very complicated situation with many possibilities, and the No side just playing the fear card over and over again.
That’s pretty accurate.
Absolument et plus... je ferai mon comentaire sur le sujet plus approfondie. Les repercusions majeurs et la peur of some...
The Quebec nationalists were trying too be clever?
They knew some Quebecer wanted full independence & wanted their support, some only wanted greater autonomy & they wanted their support also, they knew the "non-Francophone" population would fear independence & they hoped to pacify & confuse them w/ ambivalent language. One wonders if a simple straight up independence vote would have won?
what would anyone gain from quebec being independent
@@hehehsha2904 It depends. I'd vote for independence if it meant a far more leftist country. If it meant Canada, but French, like it was in 1995, fuck that. You have to realize that the Quebec independence movement historically is an unsteady alliance of Nationalists, Racists and Conservatives, as well as revolutionaries, "mondialistes", leftists and Socialists. I feel that this isn't understood in the anglophone community... the commentaries and feuds weren't reported on by the Anglophone media...
Juste un petit mot, le Québec ne veut pas faire partie de la France. Nous sommes deux entités distinctes qui se respectent, mais c'est tout.
Fondateur du Canada
Ils sont parti et abandonné... Il est trop tard pour eux. Aucunement besoin de la France.
Perso en tant que québécoise, je voudrais jamais etre séparer du canada moi
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@@ericlandry5017 Va en Ontario.
If Quebec became independent, I can't imagine that the western provinces would secede. Most of their grievances are from Ontario/Quebec domination of Canada, and without Quebec they simply would no longer have this grievance.
theyd still see more economic opportunities in joining the states and wouldn’t like dealing with ottawa and ontario’s oversight and align a lot more with the us so theyd definitely see the opportunity and join
I am half Anglo Canadian and half French Canadian, these comments here are terrible. If they did end up separating I would just get dual citizenship
Yeah just like an immigrant. There is no problem to that.
Exactly
But would Quebec cry to the Canadian government for money and support if they separated??
Quebec would not have joined France, that's stupid. Also, Quebec's the biggest hydroelectricity producer in North America, which would have made it a rich country in North America.
french from france dont even like quebec french.
I’m an American with strong French Canadian ancestry, and I strongly support a free and independent Quebec
Too bad that it's never going to happen.
spicy kippurs And while you're at it, what are the winning lottery numbers for next week?
@@bingodeluxe and your eyes are in need of maintenance. This comment is years old. Find something better to do.
That statement is much more ambiguous than you might think. The Canadian Federal Government had asked the First Nations in Quebec if they wanted to separate, and they did not. So, the province of Quebec, with the borders most people think of, would not be allowed to separate. Instead, a "free and independent Quebec", would be a small rectangle, not much larger than the Gaza Strip, on the north banks of the St. Lawrence River.
@@bingodeluxe Well, the one thing we do know is that most First Nations within the province of Quebec don't trust the idea of an independent Quebec government to manage their affairs. Additionally, the quality of life of the average Quebecer would be reduced greatly due to the removal of their "welfare status" within Canada. The fact that the rest of Canada is presently throwing $13 billion at Quebec, and all they can manage to do with it is balance their budget, shows that Quebecers don't know how to manage their economy.
I think the idea of any other provinces deciding to leave Canada is highly overstated. Very few people seriously entertain this idea. And joining the US is extremely unlikely.
It was a close vote in 1995. But if you're talking about 2018, you're absolutely right. I haven't seen the numbers lately, but my understanding is that support for secession has only plummeted since 1995 in Quebec, the only province where that's taken seriously as an idea by any organized political movement. As an American, spending time abroad, I'm always shocked when people bring up Texas as an example of an American secessionist movement. What they don't get is that it's not a serious idea in Texas. Texans have a lot of state pride, which is unusual - you don't see that in Illinois or Ohio or North Dakota. All that "Republic of Texas" talk is kind of like an inside joke among Texans, a way to express that state pride, but it's emphatically not a serious political pursuit. I'm thinking it's in the lower single-digits in terms of actual support. Knowing about that example, from personal experience, would lead me to be a bit skeptical when I hear about secessionist desires in the other Canadian provinces, because I wouldn't be surprised to learn it was kind of like the non-serious Republic of Texas talk you hear there.
absolutely agree.
however, in a generation or two, the situation will be very different. there's a very low chance that the atlantic provinces would remain part of a country from which they're physically separated by 1000+km of Québec. Within one generation I see them either creating their own country, joining Québec, or joining the US.
As for Ontario and west, they could certainly survive, but I think within 2 generations you'll start to see a real support for joining the US. Economic reasons (closer economic links between the US and Canadian provinces than between canadian provinces), cultural reasons (without Québec, we lose a cultural powerhouse and one of the few things that distinguishes Canadian culture from US culture).
Not nearly as guaranteed as in the east, but still, I see difficulties in maintaining the country long term.
Fair enough, given a few decades public opinion can change. I could certainly see the maritimes wanting to go their own way (though they'd be pretty screwed economically). And I could see the provinces west of Ontario getting fed up with them running the show and consider starting their own country. I still doubt that any of them would join the US though.
+snufflufikist I disagree with this, I live is the east, People love the rights are freedoms of canada also If we were to join the USA we would lose our great healthcare. also trump is ruining our relations with the us too
d4s0n yo Trudeau is ruining your Canada as we speak.
That was a terrible pronunciation of "Quebecois" lol
“quebeca”
Is it like "Quebikwah"?
@@philly_cheese_dog1530 something like kuebekua
@@philly_cheese_dog1530 kay bay kwa
Have you ever read the book "The Morning After: The 1995 Quebec Referendum and the Day That Almost Was"? It's all about the political climate in Canada during the time of the referendum. I think you might be interested.
"Le parti quebeca" XD Best pronounciation I ever heard
Kinda like the anglos butchering the hell out of Montréal (THE "T" IS LITERALLY SILENT,WE LITERALLY PRONOUNCE IT "Mont-réal" but the extra "t" added after "mon" is just for the french word "mont" and yet they still butcher it by ssying "Mon-t-real"
Free quebec
Solidarite, avec camarades dans Québéc. Pour un socialiste, libre Quebec!
Merci. Thank you.
Vivre le Québec lîbre mais pas Socialiste
Of course the rest of Canada would want to join the USA. Québec is the big source of distinctive cultural and economical element that make english canadians "borrow" them to differenciate from the USA. But no fear my friends. Most québécois simply feel like the province has always been cut appart already and generally act like it is. It's called the "two solitudes". No problem if each founding people ignore each other.
I can confirm as a Canadian the rest of Canada would not want to become American lmfao.
Alot of Canadians including myself would hate quebec independence. For 2 reasons: First is that Canada would be split into 2. Second is that we will be smaller than the Us
Anticosti island is owned by quebec btw. It wasn't owned by qc on the map
@1:20 you have almost half of New Brunswick included in the map of Quebec, get your geography right.
While that's a mistake it's not out of the question, French people make up a large portion of NB and they don't really play ball with the rest of the country when it comes to anglo vs franco, NB would likely split in two
The French population of New Brunswick is less than 10%, and provincial borders are not something of debate.
Actually, 31% of NB is french.
Totally incorrect, while most of us in north east New-Brunswick are french, we do not share the same values of our brothers from the west.
That said, we/I respect them and their choices, but we have other values of our own which are not inclusive.
I'm from NB, and there's a lot less of a split between french and English here I would say.
Quebec is denied independance? Ah bin tabarnak, on ramène le FLQ câlice!
Félix Veilleux-Ouellet watch your language!
Arnis Estrila 😉
PLQ is like BCL so fuget about it best for to staybin Canada and fix problems eh...in every level. Eh.. Fuck FLQ PQ as QS...
TruztNo1 FLQ > all political parties
Félix Veilleux-Ouellet No really We don't that crap in QC...
Honestly, if Quebec does ever separate in the future, I'm moving to Ontario without any questions.
Ok goodbye :)
The OldSchoolGamer More expensive homes and rents, less jobs, ugly ladies, cursed hockey team, welcome to Ontario 🤣
@Idk Idk quel est votre problème?
@@AMFUNKII imagine what would happen to Quebec if it didnt have payments From BC, Alberta and Ontario, say by to your public services
@@kb-tm2hm it'd still be the 17th wealthiest country in the world, and it'd possess many of the infrastructures and resources Canada needs.
So I think, like most people, that Québec would be more than able to become its own country.
Plus, Québec is the 4th province to get the least from perequation.
Québec has the right to separate
Not really.
Would love to see a Quebec national ice hockey team.
If independance happened, we probably would’ve tried to bring in the French parts of Ontario and Acadia with us where we could all live peacefully in French, like we used to before the British took over 260 years ago...
*Well said, Francis!*
@@guyduquebec344 Merci bien monsieur Guy😌
*Francis, je viens d'ajouter un commentaire plus haut sur ce fil de discussion. Je l'ai rédigé en anglais pour le public visé. @+* 😉⚜️
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Et la plupart des autochtones Québécois seraient libérés de la indian Act (loi fédérale sur les indiens)
As I read the comments, I realize there is a misconception. Quebec is not and doesn’t want to be a part of France. Actually, French people are disliked by the Quebeckers. Even if it is true that, back then, the population was upset about being part of the British empire, it was not because they left the French empire, but rather because of the new empire that didn’t recognize them and their rights, just like the British previously did with the Acadians. Following that, the French Canadians were poorer and less educated than the other Canadians, and never really had the recognition they needed. Of course, that led to an identity crisis.
Between a french and an american, the people from Quebec will put the american arrogance before the french one. They do not like the american supremacy idea. But I agree 100% for the rest of your comment.. See how the Cajuns have been unconsidered by the Americans. The French canadians have discovered 70% of north america
Great video! That being said, hearing you pronounce Parti Québécois hurt my heart. Vive le Québec and great stuff, I enjoyed the video
Im from Toronto and I love Montreal. Me and my partner are planning to learn French in a group once the pandemic is over, and we hope that one day entire Canada will be able to speak both languages freely. At least I promise my children will. Please don't separate, togother is better
I am moving to montreal pretty soon and I plan to learn French. I think English Canadians should embrace French a lot more than they do
you really hate yourself😂 Any reasonable person is looking for the chance to move out and you want to move in😂 good luck, make sure you dodge enough potholes so your car makes it to montreal on your drive in🤣
I don't know how old you are, I don't know if you knew the time of Meech Lake on the attempts at reconciliation between Quebec and the rest of Canada, Quebec asked for the minimum to be able to keep and save its language and its culture, Trudeau (the father) and Jean Chrétien sabotaged the agreement one night with the other provinces and in the morning Quebec was isolated and the project had just failed. Very few Canadians are aware of this story that Quebec has felt like a betrayal. A few weeks after the polls showed that 62% of Quebecers would vote YES to separation from Canada. Today with the Supreme Court wanting to invalidate Quebec's laws 21 and 96, the Quebec separatist movement is regaining strength and nationalist sentiment is increasingly present in the media and voting intentions.
if you dont understand me on va devoir s'quitter
I really hate how these oversimplifications gloss over that Quebecs original name before British rule was "canada". The lands along the saint Lawrence were called Canada.
I remember that in the lead up to the vote the Cree and Inuit First Nations stated that they would rather remain in Canada and, if Quebec had voted yes, the province would end up back to its 1912 borders. Came as a bit of a shock to the sovereigntists who of course said that the Cree and Inuit couldn't separate from Quebec.
Québec’s 1912 borders included Labrador.
@@jbqu3142 I should have been more clear. I meant the borders prior to the passage of the Quebec Boundaries Extension Act, 1912, that transferred the District of Ungava to Quebec.
The region known as Labrador and currently part of Newfoundland was NOT part of Quebec in 1912. It hadn't been part of Quebec since 1791 and was given to the control of the British colony of Newfoundland in 1809.
@@bingodeluxe Oh please. An independent Quebec would not be some paradise for anyone, let alone the Cree and and other First Nations peoples.
Hydro Quebec would have to continue to pay a significant sum to the new Cree territory. It isn't like the company could just pack up the dams and move them.
You think taxes are high currently in Quebec?
An independent Quebec would lose the transfer payment it currently receives, which is more than it pays to the federal government in taxes.
It would have to come up with its own military forces.
It would take on part of the current national debt on top of its current provincial debt of almost $225 billion.
Unless it established its own currency, it would have to keep the Canadian dollar or choose to use some other currency like the US dollar. Either way it would have absolutely no say in monetary policy.
Have the First Nations been treated badly in the past? Yes. But Quebec was not guiltless in such treatment of First Nations people.
The Mohawk, Cree, and Innuit voted 96% against Quebec separation in the 1995 referendum.
il est fou de rester dans cette chimère coloniale qu'est le Canada VIVE LE QUÉBEC LIBRE
pis quoi, expulser tous les immigrants, les peuples autochtones, et les Québécois qui sont pas de "pure laine"?
@@pcoleman2564 il faut tout faire pour l’indépendance, même une révolution
@@pcoleman2564 Tous les Québécois pure laine ou non ainsi que les Autochtones et les immigrants qui voudrons rester sont des Québécois.
I know this video is 5 years old, but I suggest you read "Night Probe" by Clive Cussler. It deals with Canada facing a crisis of Quebec seceding, but with a twist. It is more techno-thriller but is also an alternate history.
0:58 Actually most Quebecois would have not voted on that question. The question they would have voted on would be:
Acceptez-vous que le Québec devienne souverain, après avoir offert formellement au Canada un nouveau partenariat économique et politique, dans le cadre du projet de loi sur l'avenir du Québec et de l'entente signée le 12 juin 1995?
He translated it so his viewers can understand the question
Great video. Minor correction: Newfoundland and Labrador is not a part of the Maritime provinces. The Maritime provinces are Nova Scotia, New Brunswick, and Prince Edward Island. The Atlantic provinces are Nova Scotia, New Brunswick, Prince Edward Island, and Newfoundland and Labrador.
Thank you...I wanted that BIG misconception cleared up. NL is only a Canadian province since 1949.
Newfoundland is the quebec of the Atlantic provinces. "We need our own time zone durrrr"
Pronounced “Kaybec” not “Kobec” not complaining, just teaching.
Quebec
@Hakohito Hell no, it's 'Keh-bec', just put it in google translate and you'll see.
Where tf did you get that 'Ko' from
to me it's "Kuh-Beck"
As a native-level speaker of both English and French who is from Quebec, I can safely say that the French pronunciation of Quebec by French speakers is roughly "Kay-beck", due to the acute accent on the first E (Québec). Anglo-Quebeckers pronounce the province's name differently, both from francophones but also from other Canadians. In the Quebec English dialect/accent (it's a bit of both), the first vowel sound is more of an "uh" that borders on being a glottal stop (Kuh-beck or almost K'beck). It almost sounds like the acute accent was replaced with a grave accent (Quèbec) in how they say it. Anglo-Quebeckers follow the two quick syllable pacing much like francophones and never draw out the syllables like other English speakers often do.
I've heard some Ontarians try to approximate the Anglo-Quebecker way of saying and getting something like "Kobec" (getting the first vowel not quite right, with it morphing closer to an O sound) but most non-Quebecker anglophones will introduce a W sound into the first syllable (Kwuh-beck) and some Westerners will pronounce the first E as a long E for some reason (Kwee-beck). They also overstress and stretch out the syllables in ways that sound really strange to a local from the province.
Basically, if you hear a W sound in the province's name, the speaker is definitely not from there. No one in Quebec, whether their mother tongue is English or French, ever uses anything but a French sounding of the QU in the name (i.e. a K sound, never ever a KW like in English).
Let's create a French speaking commonwealth with Québec, France and Belgium. ;)
Wow la francophonie is so much more than that. Tu oublies la Suisse et presque le tier des pays d'Afrique!
@Ryan Kisnics Move your British ass to Britain buddy. :)
Half of Belgium speaks Dutch.
When we learned about this in Canadian history classes, the option of a Canadian province joining the USA literally never came up. I don't thank even the most conservative Canadian provinces would want to be American...
Well that's because every canadian who wants to be American just moves south to the US. I.E. Steven Crowder and Gavin McInnes, two famous french canadians who moved to America because they were unhappy with the direction their country was going in.
k well at least we don't have to show insurance before getting help or having to pay off a crippling dept. Emergency care is as fast as the US and has all the innovation.
I think it's just a difference in culture, our conservatives and their conservatives both have different values and view points.
I'm sure the government of Canada has something to do with writing Canada's history textbooks.
If Quebec left, I would want my home Alberta to join the USA. It would be the safest option for our future. It pains me to say this as it basically is me being forced to surrender my culture for stability. I just don't want my Canadian brothers in Quebec to leave.
As a historical nitpick, Nunavut wasn't created until 1999. There were just two territories (Yukon and the N.W.T.) in 1995.
VIVR LE QUÉBEC LIBRE
The people who founded Canada could had prevent all of this, if they had really made Canada a bilingual country and teach every kid both language since there youth, we would never had those problem and 2d we would be more unite then ever, but no in the 1800 many provinces voted law to interdict french teaching in schools.....
This would be a terrible idea, as forcing the Western Canadian's children to learn both languages would be absurd. French is not too common there as opposed to Quebec and the maritime provinces.
@@c.j.8263 i think its not absurd. If you learn a second language you're going to be smarter. Im glad To speak french so i can appreciate the music, the cinema in french and go to french speaking countries, and its also awesome that i understand english so i can do the same. The best is when you speak frenglish. Arent you proud when you speak another language?
To make it a mandatory language in all the country would be stupid, as not all of Canada is interested in being forced to learn 2 languages. @@Ame-zv5lj
@@c.j.8263 The thing is french used to be quite big in the western provinces until the late 19th, early 20th century. (not in B.C. though). It was thoroughly eradicated. I don't see the problem with learning a second language at a national scale. In Quebec we're forced to learn english from the moment we start school nowadays. It goes both ways. That is, if we want to grow as a united country. If we don't then sure, let's remove all french outside of Quebec, and let's grow apart from one another. Which option is better? Who knows.
dbo514 but we are forced to learn French until grade 10 in Ontario too
"1861 Slavery Rebellion": very nice phrasing ^^
+flypaper flipper Sure, kiddo. You keep retconning that U.S. civil war history with all your might.
Hot tip: In future, try writing a comment that makes even a little bit of sense, okay?
What if? Well, for starters we wouldn't be paying 7.1 billion tax dollars to Indians (aboriginals for those with thin skin) every 5 years that's for fucking damn sure...............
+flypaper flipper Your utter inability to communicate in anything approaching a cogent or fact-based manner is your concern, dummy. But I doubt you need a "mental health assessment" as being a right-wing idiot is not recognized by the DSM-V.
I'm again going to urge you to at least TRY making some sense with your next comment.
I like Quebec but we should not be trying to live together. Our failure to live comfortably together is evidence of how hard it is for different cultures to live within the bosom of a single state. Just imagine how much harder it is going to be with many cultures living here and clinging to there own dress, food, religion, and ways.
this damned religion wich controlled all in Quebec made it worse!
Did you totally ignore that Quebec voted in 1980 as well? Nice research.
Yeah, but the 1980 referendum wasn't as close as the 1995's
The most probable outcome to a ¨yes¨ vote would be sovereignty-association; which means that Quebec would become a normal country and would have an economic association with the rest of Canada. Why is it the most probable outcome? Because an independent Quebec would cut Canada in two and because it would control the only essential territory of Central canada, from Alberta to the Atlantic ocean, namely the St-Lawrence valley where all the communication systems of English Canada pass for pure economic reasons: the St-Lawence Seaway, the Transcanadian highway, the train system, the pipelines, etc.). We really know what we are talking about in Quebec!
So the referendum wasn't even actually for independence, but whether they should ask the government nicely if they could be independent? Very Canadian of them, don't see why they think they're so different. Also, what Canadian province would want to willingly join the United States!
CreatorUser the more conservative western states as he pointed out in the video.
Their conservatives might sing a different tune when they realize ours would take away their healthcare.
James Pennington This guy doesn't know much about Canada. The western Provinces (not states) are not all conservative. Alberta and Saskatchewan are (all though they weren't allways). However British Columbia is the most left wing province in Canada
"nicely" That is omitting the terrorist cell that planted bombs, kidnapped and killed a Canadian Minister for the independance of Quebec ^^
TheWaross From 1963 to 1979, the RCMP (Royal Canadian Mounted Police) fought relentlessly against the independence movement in Quebec. Manipulations, provocations, burglaries, arson, conspiracies, these are some of the most famous misdeeds of the RCMP during this secret war.
In 1970, after the assassination of the federal minister Pierre Laporte, the antiterrorist section of the Montreal police recruits Carole Devault to infiltrate the FLQ (Front de liberation du Québec) and discovers where James Richard Cross is sequestered. To prove her credibility within the group, the young woman does not hesitate to organize a hold-up. But its activities will not stop with the end of the October crisis. It will set up cell cells of the FLQ and commit with accomplices a series of terrorist acts. The police will thus succeed in maintaining a climate of fear and insecurity among the population and slowing down the independence movement.
In 1972, the RCMP set up, with the help of the CIA, the Ham-to-the-list operation of 60,000 party members. No less than 44 sequestrators of this extraordinary and totally illegal mission.
On the night of July 26, 1974, survivor of the first terrorist attack for more than a year and a half. The target is the home of the heiress of Steinberg supermarkets. The police discovered that the attacker was an RCMP officer, Robert Samson, who worked for the anti-terrorist squad. At his trial, the man revealed that this terrorist act was not the only one. His confession will trigger the Keable and McDonald inquiry into the Canadian secret service. We see that the RCMP regularly uses illegal methods to come to an end.
On May 7, 1992, Claude Morin, Minister for Intergovernmental Affairs and close ally of René Lévesque. and "French Menuet", he received over $ 12,000 from the RCMP.
As a western Canadian, I remember everyone on our side of the country rooting for independence at the time. None of us wanted Quebec to remain part of the country, and I can tell you that the majority of westerners still wish they'd separate. I think if a referendum were held in Canada today regarding whether Quebec should be expelled from Canada a sizable majority of those in BC, Alberta and Saskatchewan would be showing them the door.
You have a very appropriate name, CumNugget. Sorry reality doesn't conform to what you'd like to believe.
Gee the hate for quebecers is realllll here
It’d be cool if Quebec became their own country. How would New Brunswick feel? I know they have a French population too
Maritim provinces would be like childs when mom and pop divorce
@@louis-philippelavoie6929lmfaoo
*A more pragmatic solution consists in urging Québécois to leave the Canadian Confederation about which they never signed the constitution of 1982 by becoming a politically independent country friendly with the other democratic countries of the world. The famous slogan “Maîtres chez nous” by the late Jean Lesage will resonate very favorably in the distinct society that is Québec at the next major constitutional conflict between Québec and Ottawa, and this will result in a geopolitical realignment that has not yet been completed. Thus, the poorly taught French in the predominantly English-speaking provinces of Canada would no longer have to be taught and, in Québec, the school curriculum will continue to include the compulsory teaching of English as a second language during all the first 11 years of schooling. Therefore, Québec will have an additional economic advantage by doing business with predominantly English-speaking countries as well as with other predominantly French-speaking ones, without political interference from English Canada. Consequently, the perception of a bilingual elite in the federal government will dissipate and the Anglo-Saxons will thus continue to encourage their fellow citizens to speak English in their English Canada as they have done in all the regions of the world that they have conquered militarily.*
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1:25 this is absolutely false. The yes camp was working very hard to be ready for a hard dialogue with Canada. This is totally false, I invite people to do research on this. The canada also said vague thing about working for Québec to enter the constitution and reopen the constitution, but that never happened.
The supreme court ruled that the federal governement should be forced to negociate. The federal parliament also voted that they should decide if the result of a referendum on independance got a sufficient number but I don't think that it is compatible with the rest of the jurisprudence, making the feds both judge and actor on such a matter and reducing to nothing the previous ruling of the court. The scot's strategy was based on this experience and made it into a sort of gentlemen agreement. Unfortunately the harline path choosen by Madrid is far different from what happened in Quebec and Scotland.
vive Quebec...im a Texan...long live liberty
Last I checked Texas was apart of CSA during the Civil War. The side opposing the LIBERTY of millions of people.
Quebec is already a free society.....so is Texas.
Any people wanting independence deserve it.
Oh dang, what a pleasant surprise!
Il faut un autre référendum et le plus tôt possible!
Vive l’indépendance du Québec!
Ce n'est pas avec la CAQ et François Legault au pouvoir qu'un troisième référendum soit à l'agenda des Québécois, même si ce gouvernement subit les affronts répétés d'un Justin Trudeau concernant ses demandes, en matière d'immigration, par exemple. Peut-on aussi compter sur les les milléniaux et la génération Z davantage tournés vers le monde, grâce à la technologie de l'information et les réseaux sociaux qu'ils maîtrisent bien ? Pour la plupart, un Québec indépendant n'est pas une nécessité, voire un non-sense. Aussi, la donne a changé depuis 1995, soit l'afflux massif depuis d'immigrants pour qui, la terre d'accueil est le Canada d'abord bien qu'ils se soient établis au Québec. Si en 1995 l'échec du référendum sur la souveraineté du Québec a été attribué à "des votes ethniques et l'argent", selon le premier ministre de l'époque, Jacques Parizeau, imaginons les résultats d'un troisième référendum sur la souveraineté du Québec aujourd'hui avec ces quelques obstacle. Bien que 100 % favorable, je n'ose pas y penser. Vive le Québec libre !
Québec had direct support and recognition from UK France and Germany
They saw Canada as the unstable country and possible enemy because it had just converted into Socialism and many considered Socialism as a form of Communism (Canada is stil Socialist today) so i really dont see why the pro-Capitalist US would want to help Canada. They much rather help the more Capitalist Québec.
Idk what you're talking about but Quebec is way way more socialist than any Canadian Province. It even has the highest taxes and still manages not gather enough funds to run its socialist policies.
Dude, high taxes is a Capitalist thing. If it were Socialist, it would only tax the rich and have no taxes at all for the poor. But clearly this is not the case.
Ontario is the most Socialist province and i should know since i LIVE HERE! As a poor when i do my yearly tax report i actual get money from the provincial government. Québec would never do that.
Look up the law 101 of Québec, its another Capitalist rule that you will only see in Québec.
The reason Québec is always low is because it spends everything in its military and in its french school/propaganda and it build way too many huge projects in the middle of nowhere.
But if we anger them by not giving them money then they deploy their military and by the way, Québec has over 60% of the entire Canadian military so... We have no choice.
@@JACOBHAMEL4 you need to visit Baggotvill, Valcartier and Lévis. Pis j'suis pas sur q'té vraiment québécois. And how is the loi 101 not capitalist?
@@tusk3260 The Question of Quebec - Our Position swky.co/LEOfan
I have studied the Canadian political system and from what I have gathered, it's opposite the one we have in the US in that, in America, any rights not specifically granted to the federal government is assumed to be granted to each state (states rights) but in Canada, it's the opposite; any right not specifically granted to the provinces is assumed to be granted to Ottawa. In effect, the only rights the Canadian federal government has is a foreign policy, a national defense and the issuance of a common currency. Since Canadian provinces enjoy almost the same level of autonomy that Bermuda has, for example, each province is already a de facto sovereign nation so even if Quebec ever did become an independent nation, nothing much would change in reality. French is already the only official language of the province.
The reason why the ruling party has control over the executive branch is because Canada, like the UK, has a parliamentary system of government. In such a system, there is no separation of powers like the American system because the executive branch is derived from the legislative one. IOW, the PM is also an MP. A US President, on the other hand, cannot hold any other office while serving. The fact remains, however, that Canadian provinces have many more rights than US states because there has been greater devolution of power in Canada than in America which, IMO, is probably a good thing.
What I find interesting, Ben, is that during the first PQ Administration in Quebec which lasted from 1976-1985, then-PM. Trudeau had stated that Canada will not degenerate into a civil war to keep Quebec from seceding like the US had done with the Confederacy. I don't know if Canadian provinces have the right to secede but I do know that no US state has that right (Texas used to when it joined the Union in 1845 but because it fought on the side of the Confederacy during the Civil War, it lost that right during Reconstruction). The fact that Ottawa in 1980 and 1995 permitted a referendum on Quebec independence proves my point. No US state would ever be allowed to hold such a referendum.
In the case of the US, the Supreme Court ruled way back in 1869 in Texas v White that secession was unconstitutional when it decided that "Texas (and the rest of the Confederacy) never left the Union during the Civil War, because a state cannot unilaterally secede from the United States". IOW, the Confederacy's act of secession was never recognized by the US government. Think of the US as the Hotel California; once you check in, you can never leave!!!
I agree with you there, my friend!
St. Thelonious the Monk i'm from Quebec and i 100% agree whit you.
Haters are anti-QuebecIndependence sentimental Canadians.
LOL!
If only Napoleon had enough ships...
More like enough money if the french didnt lose the 7 years war most of canada and central usa all the way to new orleans were french area ,after the defeat at the seven years war king louis sent his army to avenge the loss as a reinforcment to the american revolutionary army and then bankrupt the country and that was the main cause for the french revolution some years after the revolutions napolèon took power but in that time france were still broke from the revolution so money was the problem
Of Quebec cessedes , it will own all of its natural resources and can tax the population and keep all the profits. Issue its own currency too without influence of central banks.
Well the currency thing, was going to be temporary, maybe 10-20 year, like your going to switch overnight your Currency, Euro took DECADE to switch in most country ... Federalist used that as a punch line, but it was pretty obvious to most intelligent people ....
When Quebec had the independence referendum Alaska had just elected a representative from the Alaskan Independence Party as governor. He talked about joining up with British Colombia if they also voted to become independent.
So we may have seen Alaska leaving the United States and joining BC.
James Pennington I don't think Alaska would ever join Canada. The people of Alaska seem to be very patriotic, and uniquely independent. I think they would rather stay a part of America.
The US would NEVER allow Alaska to leave. An independent Alaska is a huge security threat
Parizeau had secured enough money on the international market to be sure that the Quebec government would have enough money to keep the place running for at least a year.
Vive le Québec !
Vive le Québec ..... L I B R E !!
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@Google was my idea O U I !!
I'm from Saskatchewan & It doesn't surprise me that we would consider joining the USA back in 1995. Our economy was bleak back then (When Regina got its first Toys 'R' Us in the early 1990s, there were hundreds of resumes from people desperate for a minimum wage job) & the USA was viewed as this magnificent place. Then 2001/09/11 happened & our views quickly changed.
Since I actually have a background in international law and customs treaties I can say the majority of what you said is nonsense. The major point is your "belief" that a win for the independence side could be blocked. General support for independence in Quebec was very much higher than 49%. This was suppressed by offers of reform by the Canadian government that answered the immediate reasons for enough of those supporters to push the OUI vote below 50%. Attempts to use what would have been a biased anti-Quebec Canadian government and court to impose a union, would have discredited that pro reform section of the NON vote. A disillusioned pro reform group and an enraged OUI group would then have been united into a heavy majority support for independence. At this point a continued union could only have been maintained by force. Few governments have the stomach for the actions necessary to force a union. That is even ignoring the economic and political disruption it would lead to across the rest of Canada.
Your flights of fancy into the annexation of large portions of Canadian territory into the USA deserve no respect as they demonstrate a complete lack of understanding of basic elements of international law and how sovereign territory is defined.
The most likely outcome would have been some form of Canadian Zollverein. Other parts of Canada might have followed Quebec so creating a Canada of three or four sub states of politically equal status. These sub states may have been formed of one or more the existing provinces. Something of a closer political and economic relationship than the EU but looser than the USA. It is the threat of annexation by the USA not the possibility of leaving Canada and joining the USA that would be the impetus.
My hopes that onde day that quebec becomes independant and sovern one day.
1:36 See Prince Edward Island up you can see another island. That’s the Island of Anticosti and Quebec owns it!
Dire qu'on a passé si près d'avoir notre pays
Hélas ! Toutefois, il n'est pas dit que ce ne pourra pas arriver un jour, avec PSPP à la tête du PQ, qui petit à petit, monte dans les sondages (22 %, octobre 2023). On sait qu'un Québec indépendant est viable, les Charest, Couillard et Legault en sont aussi convaincus.
What if the USSR did not break up? Do both the USSR reforming it's way out of the cold war or is their a crackdown leading to hardliners taking power.
Honesty if the Berlin Wall fell independently without consent from the USSR no matter how well reformed. Would likely be seen as a failure of the reformists by hardliners, the miliary and the KGB and there would have a coup against the reformists leaders and a very likely chance of a conventional war. I was actually imagining Moscow would encourage reforms in their satellite states and allow the Eastern bloc to survive mostly intact to this day. Expect for Germany where the GDR would enter a union with West Germany a few years off from the present.
What if Gorbachev could have transformed the USSR from a dictatorial communist country into a democratic socialist one?
mollytherealdeal A Stalinist taking power in 1985 would be a fun scenario to do.
QUEBEC NOTRE NATION QUEBEC MON AMOUR YVES SAINT LAURENT VIVE BARILOCHE
CELINE DION!!!!
New Brunswick would join qubece idk y u anglos forget it’s french 🙃🇫🇷
Well the winner write history, it's like the french out west, they are pretty much extinct (Like in New england), Ontario french are on the fast track to assimilation (More than half who have french as a mother tongue in Ontario don't speak french at home, it's a pretty grim sight), I hope New Brunswick stay strong, and stay the course .....
I mean that’s pretty weak to say actually 🤔 there are large pockets of french speakers all over Canada my family is french from New Brunswick soooooo yeah
I highly doubt New Brunswick would join Quebec.
@@stza16 Exactly, because the part that pushed the Referendum was "Quebecois", not "francophone".
“Some” New Brunswick people DO talk french, but doesn’t feel “québécois”
Maybe, next time, the entire country should vote. 😉
If Quebec separated from Canada, my guess is that the maritime islands would join the US or become US territories. Or they would attempt to join Quebec and then they could form a more sustainable quebec.
Charlie Hawkins Lol like Quebec needs the maritimes provinces to be sustainable??? I really hope that this was a joke..
We might not have won (yet) but Hell did we gave a fight for our cultural, religious and language rights! Our ancestors fought for it and gave their blood, we are still fighting but with our votes. Other countries might not understand, Scotland and Ireland would, they are loosing their gaelic language year after year we don't want the same to happen in Quebec.
@The Alternate Historian Wait, I thought that Quebec loses more money for Canada than any province in the country by a long shot.
Enough taxpayer money to pay for the basics. Enough profits for the major companies. But when they want a new highway or arena (Videotron Centre), they expect other Provincial taxpayers to chip in.
FOUR THINGS WOULD HAVE HAPPENED:
1. TRUMP WOULD HAVE MADE A MESS OUT OF QUEBEC.
2. FRENCH WOULD HAVE DISAPPEARED FROM WEST CANADA.
3. SPANISH WOULD HAVE BECOME THE SECOND POPULAR LANGUAGE IN WEST CANADA.
4. THE BEST PAID PEOPLE IN QUEBEC WOULD HAVE BEEN THE BILINGUALS.
Trump wasn't president in 1995, besides he's doing a great job, just imagine if we had Trump instead of the racist trust fund drama teacher.
@@xeero24 we got rid of him on November 3 2020. Biggest sense of relief
Now, most young Québécois don't want independence, so I'm happy for this.
@@JACOBHAMEL4 No, independence is the worst thing that can happen to Quebec, seriously.
You’re right in live in Quebec and if Quebec separate everyone would move back to Canada i mean Quebec tried to separate twice and they failed enough is enough
And Montreal would be ruined 🤷🏾♂️
@@JACOBHAMEL4 Le Québec ne survivra pas après l'indépendance. Après les deux référendums proposés par René Lévesque, des milliers d'anglophones (les plus riches) sont partis vers l'ontario. Est-ce que tu t'es déjà demandé pourquoi l'économie de Toronto a surpassé celui de Montreal ainsi que la population? Ben, c'est à cause de cela. Si le Québec devient vraiment indépendant, c'est comme si tu perdais les gens responsables à l'économie québécoise. De plus, on a fait un sondage pour savoir qui veut l'indépendance et qui ne le veut pas. Et tsé quoi, 94% ont voté pour que le Québec reste avec le Canada.
Jacob Hamel bro le Québec va jamais devenir un pays🤡 c toi qui doit renseigner tu penses vraiment le vont voter oui 🤡 si le oui gagne tt monde vont skurrrr surtout les moune de mtl anyway tes juste un autre kebz qui aime pas le Canada. But for me Canada for life 🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦 et oublie pas la dernière fois le Québec a essayé de se séparer Montreal a perdu son économie 🙃
I leave in QUEBEC , I prefer an independent Quebec .
CETTE FOIS C'EST OUI RENÉ
@PATRIOT HAM Think the Chinese give a fuck about that? Lol.
@PATRIOT HAM Dont habla italian parle en français.
Non merci
@@brianblak14 Mais oui
My Man, I appreciate this as a Montrealer.
There's a few factual mistakes in this video. For one, the Western Bloc wouldn't have gotten Nunavut to join them as Nunavut was formed in 1999. It was part of the Northwest Territories in 1995.
i live in Ontairio CANADA AND DO NOT WANT QUEBEC TO LEAVE CANADA,BECAUSE I`S BEEN WITH US SINCE 1867 AND ONE OF 4 1ST PROVINCES OF CANADA,AND ON IS ONE OF THEM .
Québec will become independent.
What about First Nation treaty issues? I'm pretty sure Quebec would've had to gain consent from the First Nations of the region or come to some other arrangement with them.. Which I don't think would've been possible..
Quebec independance is a great opportunities to give more power to native over their land.
Most of, if not all, Treaty territories cross provincial boarders. If Quebec was, or were, to separate it would most likely cause a domino effect between Canada, Quebec its self, and all First nations treaty territories this would also be compounded with all the issues of unceded land disputes. And another kicker, Canada is constitutionally obligated to uphold the treaty agreements and treaty rights.
The FN would be well advised to rethink their position by taking a look at what a real treaty done with mutual respect can lead to: "la paix des braves" between Quebec and the James Bay Cree made it so that the Cree are thriving, while their Ontarian conterpart are literally in a third world country standard of living.
Anyway, it's more a negociation tactics than anything; they don't care for any allegiances they want to be paid the most. They are just playing hard to get.
FN treaty rights and relations are extremely complex. For the example of James Bay Cree Nation doing better recently I compare the smuggling routes general poverty of Mohawk Nations on the border between Quebec and USA with the Rama Nation near Toronto. Rama is doing really well with day trips to their casino from the big city and the Mohawk make illegal tobacco.
I fucking DIED LAUGHING at 0:35 with his pronunciation of "Parti Quebecois:!!!!
Then again at 1:35 with "Jacques Pari-ZOO"! LMFAO
This video has so many fucking inaccuracies, it's not even funny.
Canada would have been a better place.
nope
Canada would have been no more
Then Canada would have been quite literally torn asunder with Quebec wedging its noggin through North America, and the Maritimes and NL (not part of the former, get it right everyone) would have been, ahem, cornered. Signed, an Anglo-Quebecer.
If I recall (I was 11 or 12 at the time) Quebec wanted to keep using the Canadian dollar even after becoming and independent nation 🤣
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@@robin-bq1lz t sous toutes les vidéos que je regarde !
@@Nancy-mq4uc j’adore faire chier les partisans du Québec bashing, c’est plus fort que moi.😁😘
I’m not sure how many times I had to write this on random videos but NFLD is not a Maritime province.
Québec is the province of Canada!
And Québec should be a country
@Nice to have found this abstract on youtube, i like it that other people are interested by us. I will tell you some mistakes you made tho (my main research subject is Quebec's history).
First, your title is wrong, you are just explaning the history mixed with some farfetched stuff about what would happen if
1:20 wrong map
worse 1:30 is really not true, both referendums were on Quebec independence from Canada, becoming a country. Having economic partnership is not being part of a country because if so you would also need to say that Canada is american (because it has almost always been the biggest economic partner with lots of treaties and such.
2:25 it is funny how canadians (i mean, anglophones, we do not consider ourselves as canadians, we are québécois, and really far after, we are canadians) NEVER say that ahah, but you're right and I like it.
I am really sure that most of canadians, including french-canadians, would never want to join the United States, this is a really big invention of you.
4:20 Really false also, for example, Quebec had (and still have) really good relations with France (also, Quebec may be the first state being part of a bigger state to build relationships with other country, they made commercial treaties and such since the 19th century) and would easily recognise this hypothetical country
5:50 nobody never was sure of what would really happen after, but I really think that those are part of all the ''Arguments de peur'' (arguments of fear) that would be all the gossips about the whats and not that would happen, like the banks that would move all the money to Toronto (the NO side actually did that in 1970 (look at ''Coup de la brinks Quebec'' on google)
sorry, not used to tell history in english.
tipaul1 About USA, it was actually the United States who invited the province to join their federation. The idea didn't come from separatists. After the facts, we realised it was probably to check on the socialist development of the province since they planned to invade if Quebec did separate.
Enunciate, for God's sake. Take your time so that you can be understood. I replayed your name six times, and if it was not written as part of the Patreon link I would still not have any idea what it is. Oh, and "1861 slave rebellion", did you make that up yourself?
What if Quebec left Canada? Then we’d have no poutine that’d be the biggest loss for us
As a native American there is tons of alternate histories.
Penser a vos ancêtres français vos grand parents le Québec et français rendez fier vaut descendant il ce sont battu pour la France
It'll also be interesting to see that the Canadian capital will be literally at the border with another country
I was expecting a very Anglo centric view on the referendum and yep, that is exactly what your video is. Full of assumptions that really shows you don't have a smick of a clue what you are talking about. You are doing our country a great disservice by polarizing options.
0:50 There is nothing like a very clear question to determine the destiny of a people. The person that wrote that referendum question must have been on both acid and crack cocaine at the time. You'll have to run the rest of my comment through Bing Translator. It's only fitting to address "le peuple Quebecois" in their own language with a couple of quick comments:
1. Vous devriez remercier le Canada anglais pour la protection de la langue et de la culture françaises. Si vous étiez de l'autre côté de la frontière des États-Unis, il n'y aurait pas de langue ou de culture française en Amérique du Nord.
2. Il n'est jamais trop tard pour apprendre la prochaine langue officielle du Québec: l'arabe.
Why is this still a subject? Im a french canadien, my father taught me english when i was 6 since he knew how important that was. Once that barrier is gone, Indenpendance seems so dumb. The only one rooting for it are the french canadien ''artist'' community and some of the dying babyboomers who never care to speak '' foreign'' engriiiish. I dont pretend to know the world, nor can i speak for everyone, but im in my mid 30s, and i dont know ANYONE wanting to leave Canada. Its like a subject people brings up just to stear shit and drama. You french hating canadien brothers and sister, i invite you to come here and feel the room for yourself. Reading shit from keyboard warriors is one thing, but having the warmest welcome from a broken english accent while having a drink is something else. That of course, is just my humble opinion.
it's seem dumb because of people who represent the subject.. like fucken pauline marois shit.. no credibility and clearly corrupt to raise down the real reason and ripoff the moral
Im a french canadian who learned english very young too, but i have a different point of view on the subject. Independence for me is not just about the culture and language, but about the values we share as a community, quebec is very different in many ways then the rest of canada and thats pretty objective (in all my subjectivity) its only logical to have the rights to our economy, laws and constitution.
About the idea that if Québec were to become independent, the aboriginals and anglos that voted no would want to stay in Canada is dumb. If so why didn't the regions of Québec that voted Yes are making a country? Because Québec, the nation of Québec, is a whole. Of course there will be people for and against. But the majority prevails. Also, it would be stupid and espacially sad if the natives would want to separate from Québec and join Canada. Why should they even do that? They would have a lot more chances to be recognized in being part of a new country than in the actual Canada. Logically, if they (the natives) were to leave, they should leave Canada now, not Québec when it becomes a country.
The natives will stay in Québec.
Wanted to add my support and approval of the appropriate phrasing of the 1861 rebellion.
Also, a record of immigrant become Canadian in Quebec province during the years 1995. Now it's the turn of the anglo-saxons to be diluted by immigration with the other Trudeau...
Classic British tactics.
I would love it if Canada wanted to unionize with the US. Living in Vermont would not seem like being on the ultra left fringes of american politics anymore. Vermont is more Canadian than American, and having all those provinces joining the union would push the the Senate far to the left. The US would end up with an NHS and more reasonable funding of post secondary education. I believe a new name for the union would be in order, The United States of North America. I am not sure how we would organize our spelling rules, would it be labor or labour etc?
Canada and US a build sea-level canal connecting Lake Ontario and Hudson River.
vive le quebec libre
c'est drôle comment les indépendantistes sont incapable d'imaginer le futur. Ils ne regardent même as les conséquences que cela pourrait avoir et se jutifie leur désir de partir simplememnt avec des arguments émotionnels.
@Gab - drôle ou vachement triste ? : /
At least make a cocktail worthy of a funny name like that.
Non.
Gab Sénéchal C’est drôle comment les fédéralistes écoutent pas correctement les arguments des indépendantistes
The biggest problem with this take was the claim that Quebec somehow benefits the rest of Canada in a monetary sense. It doesn't. Ever since the implementation of Equalization Payments (whereby "have provinces" (those with good economies) transfer money to "have not provinces" (whose with poor economies)) in 1957, Quebec has always been a "have not" province. In fact, since 1957, over 50% of all pay-outs in Equalization Payments have went to Quebec. However, despite all this assistance, Quebec is also the most indebted province on a per capita basis. Economically, Quebec is a massive drain on the rest of Canada.