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The NBA community got to be the only league that trashes eras
They do it in the Nfl to
That’s any sport ngl. NBA is just a lot more louder about it
It's cus the game is so much different now than it was before. Other sports didn't change as drastically as the NBA.
To be clear , it's not the NBA community , it's the LeBron fans they diminish past eras and past greats to prop up LeBron.
PeekMike is a LeGroupie if you go through his profile.
Its not the NBA community. Its Lebron fans
In my opinion, the only reason this has become so popular is for 2 reasons. 1, recency bias. And 2, most modern fans don’t even seem to watch the actual games. They just look at highlights, boxscores, and participate in NBA discourse.
It’s become popular because for years older fans would constantly trash today’s product and players so now younger fans are watching footage of older eras and doing the same in return. It’s basically trolling vs trolling. Old generation vs the new. That’s all it is really
@@ithinkimanaries2620 Multiple things can be true at once. Because I honestly believe that this would’ve happened regardless of older guys trashing the newer eras. Simply because of the Jordan/LeBron debate. Because let’s be real, that’s what this boils down to and is spawned from.
@@Realest1ne it definitely does come down to Lebron/MJ. But think where it started was today’s generation that grew up watching Lebron and came to see him as the best. Yet every time you praise him you get comments from older media members and fans saying how he’s not Jordan and can’t compare. How Jordan would do this. And Lebron will never be him. So as this generation has gotten older this reaction was only a matter of time until they reversed it and started to come at Jordan.
I personally would put most of the blame on the older fans. So many older guys talk about how today’s nba is trash and how the older players were so much better. It starts with them. Of course the next generation would want to defend their players. But I definitely agree with majority of today’s fans not watching games and only highlights. Easily the worst part of the current era of basketball.
@@ithinkimanaries2620I’m experiencing it too. As a younger fan I’ve grown to dislike MJ more and more. I don’t hate him, but I don’t like him either for multiple reasons. I’ve also grown to hate Jalen Rose and Allen “I’d average 43 points today” Iverson. I’ve grown to have less respect for him, and I’ve already believed he’s overrated. Offensive players would target him to death on defense.
Here’s how it would go:
Trae: “Hey Clint Capela, Tyrese Maxey is on me, come set me this screen so I can get Allen Iverson on me.”
“Shoot, I’m being guarded by Thybulle. Yo Towns, come set this screen for me so I can get AI on me”
Not a mention today’s NBA players have modern medicine that makes them be able to gain more muscle, and AI has a problem showing up to practice, I doubt he’d make good use of it. Players back then would be better offensively, but their defense would take a hit. MJ, Bird, and them other guys would struggle for a bit but would quickly adjust, but they would have to defend differently. Magic would unfortunately be in dead water.
@@ithinkimanaries2620 i think most of the previous generation criticizing today's game are usually referencing the rules and defensive policies. Talent and skills wise the league is better than it has been in 20 years. There's way more of a parasocial and tribalism aspect to today's younger fans with their favorite players, so anybody expressing a differing opinion on said player gets attacked. The anonymity of online also brings out the worst in people in how they behave in discourse.
My only issue is that I can literally make a blooper reel of every era and say im done with it. I do think people have overrated the 90s, but I dont think that tik tok video proves anything. Its just a blooper reel.
Just see what uncut hoops did to the 2016 game 7 NBA finals 😂 he made klay, curry, LeBron, and kyrie look trash, at least according to this tik Tok trend. We are seeing the tide pod eaters growing up and speaking on shit they shouldn't.
@@IsaacMSingleton1I hate Uncut Hoops
He’s a 19 year old kid who doesn’t know what he’s talking about
He’s a Jordan glazer, 80% of his videos are trashing LeBron. He tried to make the argument that LeBron being swept in three different decades was bad because no one else had done. While he has said some positive things about LeBron, those video don’t seem to be coming up anymore and he’s also made 10x more videos trying to belittle LeBron
Uncut Hoops said if you put MJ on that Cavs team in 2018, he’d probably make the finals and maybe get ONE game off the Warriors. And yet he still screams 4-6
He says the bubble title is fraudulent, and keeps on bringing up how LeBron missed the playoffs in 2019 and 2022 even though LeBron was injured those years and AD was injured in 2022
He keeps calling today’s NBA garbage and saying the 90s is better even though he probably wasn’t even alive during that time
The way he speaks irritates me. He speaks really fast, his voice speed is incredibly inconsistent, and his voice is incredibly mumbly.
Remember when Bennedict Mathurin said LeBron has to prove that he’s better than him and then outplayed LeBron? Uncut Hoops said “LeBron got a exposed by a rookie, Jordan would never” even though Jordan got crossed by a rookie AI and got humiliated by a young Kobe. (This isn’t me trying to hate on MJ, I’m just using his logic). Also, the second time Bennedict played LeBron, he scored 5 points, and LeBron outperformed him more than Bennedict outperformed him in that first game.
This dude is lucky that he hasn’t been destroyed in a debate. He says all the time “LeBron fan destroyed in GOAT debate” I’m waiting for the day that that will be him.
His thumbnails suck, to a crazy extent too. The dude posts a picture and types three words in the same font. You know it’s bad when I have better thumbnails than you, and 90% of my videos use auto-generated thumbnails. (No self promotion intended)
Jordan glazers and LeBron haters are crazy. On my channel I made a video of playing Wario Stadium on Mario Kart 64, and some crip came into my comments sections and started using corny LeBron nicknames and told me to stop talking basketball and said “I knew this was a damn kid.” Granted I didn’t handle it in the most mature way, but I don’t go on to other people’s channels, and if I did, it was back in the past and something I haven’t done. The dude that commented that on my video reminds me of my 9 year old self. I was incredibly immature, couldn’t handle opinions (somethkng I still struggle with just not to the same extent), J was constantly going after people’s necks for petty BS, and was a massive hater. I got triggered over the stupidest things. The difference is that many years later, I’ve improved and I look back at that version of me and think: “Was that really me? Shoot I was an idiot.” This guy who commented on my video clearly shows no maturity. (I wasn’t trying to do a self-promotion but I was trying to make a point)
Anyways, back to the suspect, Uncut Hoops. Zero respect for today’s players, all of which would whoop him, me, LOW and you in a 1vs4 12-0. There’s a reason why I’ve grown to hate the 90s. That’s why I have respect for bluds like Larry Bird, guys who show respect to today’s NBA players. Is today’s NBA perfect? Hell no. But neither was the 90s. I feel like very soon I’m going to become a Bronsexual. (Hopefully not ofc) I can’t wait until Dom2k, LOW, Johnny Arnett, or Rusty Buckets find this guy’s channel and expose him for who he really is. I believe MJ is the GOAT, but I don’t believe that he’s leaps and bounds above everyone like Uncut Hoops does. Uncut Hoops is lucky he’s not as popular as Dreamer’s Pro, otherwise he would’ve been burnt to a crisp by now. Put him on players choice where he can’t spend time doing research and has to use any knowledge he already has, and where people can rebuttal against him, and watch him fold. Uncut Hoops is like Skap Attack. Both speak with incredibly annoying voices, both are Bron haters, both of their thumbnails are worse than mine, and both of them hop on anything to diminish LeBron. Skap Attack is worse tho, the dude said that the 2000s was Kobe’s era and making an argument for the 2000s being Tim Duncan’s era was laughable.
Phew, that was a long winded paragraph that I know you’re probably not trying to need considering I went on a tangent about why I hate Uncut Hoops. But it goes to show that you can do this Tiktok thing for any era, and no era is perfect despite what the oldheads try to tell you.
@@legendarywiimaster 1 era played basketball, the other whined for the rules to get changed because they didn't want to play within the rules of the game. Whether uncut is 18 or 80, he showed an example of this era of skilled players looking like bad players, just like tik tok users are attempting to prove thr 90s were bad.
@@IsaacMSingleton1 didn’t the flagrant foul get implemented because NBA players wanted it.
@@legendarywiimasterYou need to go outside and stop taking this so seriously
This trend is so stupid. Go watch game 7 of the 2019 ECSF and you'll see in the same game dude's making stupid turnovers, bricking wide open shots, theres like a 5 minute period in the 1st quarter where they can barely score, somebody could take that game and be like "WE DONE WIT DA 2010's" and thats just one off the top of my head im sure with how available games are now that people could plent of games especially from the 2010-2014 era where dudes looked slow and uncoordinated
I mean if you cherry pick any eras worst moments you could make any player look dog shit. Like it’s not that deep. Both eras had diff types of play.
Nah they watching whole games
@@chrisoftofer6240from the finals too 😭😭
@@chrisoftofer6240 No they aren't, they watched like half a quarter of game 1 1991 and picked and choosed to post Lowlights
They watched A QUARTER, not whole games. Watching game 7 of LB vs Warriors in the year he won was garbage, too. They were fatigued, under mad pressure, and playing hard asf defense. Sloppy play ensued.
@@chrisoftofer6240Well if that's true then surely modern day stars have never had a bad game right?
Kawhi and PG vs Denver game 7 2020
Lebron in the 2011 Finals
Dbook and CP3 vs The Mavs game 7 2022
Joel Embiid in basically any 2nd round matchup
Steph in Game 7 vs the Cavs 2016
Oh
This is the dumbest trend I’ve ever seen. It would be like me watching and basing ALL my basketball information based on shaqtin a fool segments 😂
Basically
That is literally how old heads watch this generations basketball though
Yep, it depends on which team you watch, i often watch the Nuggets, boy they play beautiful basketball, but every once in a game someone has a brainfart and a horrible decision has been made, no one is exempt from that.
@@Al.j.VasquezMPJ could tell you quite a bit about that one
@@goodguyscomelast2029Bro no. If there is one thing you cant say about old heads its them 'watching highlights.' Without the oldheads actually watching full games, the NBA would be in serious money issues.
We GREW UP watching bball on TV and the only highlights we got were ALSO on tv lol. Y'all grew up with highlights.
It's the new gen. I don't even blame y'all but a lot of y'all just dont have the concentration span to watch an entire game without using your phone at the same time.
Lets be real bro chances are bigger oldheads STILL are the ones watching full games with youngins mostly basing their opinion on highlights.
The "sensational move by Michael Jordan" reverse in 91 Finals was left. The back to basket flying by Petrovic was left. Russell got crossed going left.
Don't mention a European or else Gil will pop out of the woodwork and start spouting nonsense
And dozens of other moves on a nightly basis.
@@jbizz80 Facts! Keep preaching brothers! I've even seen MJ blocking shots with his left, and they say that he couldn't go left! What a bunch of idiots!
The triple clutch layup finished with the left
@@kdogg8037 Different move, same game actually (Jordan's 28th bday, 2/6/91). MJ was driving with left on triple-clutch, finished right.
This was fair on both sides. In 10 to 20 years we going to be trashing this era
. I think we will be different from the oldheads now that are judging this era based on an era with less knowledge or the internet in general mixed in with rose tinted glasses
@@ronel7836 Bro no we won’t lol The 20 year olds in the 2040’s aren’t gonna give a damn about any of that.
Not really the nba has peaked skillwise. Shooting and dribbling definitely isn’t getting better.
@@ronel7836 stop it...99% are already calling this ERA the wors ever
@@ronel7836that's exactly what 20 year olds in the 90s said.. every generation will eventually hate the next generation, it's like that in everything not just basketball
If they done with the 90s then stop wearing Jordans 😏
Exactly 🤣
Now you spoke nothing but the truth!!IM DYING!!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Lmfao funny bc Jordan’s are actually going out of style; no where near as popular and way too expensive
Many old heads that grew up with Jordan don’t even wear them
@@TheUnchartedLegacywhere lol maybe in your country town 😂 they getting more expensive
Without the 90's the NBA would not be as big as it is now. Pure nonsense and arrogance.
Without Magic and Bird there’s no NBA
@@legendarywiimasternba started in the 40s
What is this supposed to mean? Nobody said the 90s wasn’t popular lol, what is your point
@@fadercreekYeah and it almost went bankrupt is the 70’s. Bird and Magic saved it. Jordan blew it up and made it global. Smfh.
@@fadercreek in the 70s the NBA was almost done. There was fights damn near every game, racism was rampant, and the ABA was in competition with the NBA.
Gen Z discovering that a right-handed person is right-handed and thinking this is an indictment of them as a basketball player is pretty incredible.
That's not the point of the trend. The main idea is the old generation constantly hates on today's product (which no other sport does) and made it sound like the 90s was this perfect era when it wasn't.
You're missing the entire point but go off old man 😂😂😂
@farhansarkar2394 if I hear one more word about that bullshit "90s defence" I'm gonna scream. 2000s defence was peak.
It is when you are called the goat or the so called best scorer ever.
You can't be called the best scorer ever when you had no 3pts shoot no handles and no left hand.
@@farhansarkar2394I get your point but basketball isn’t the the only sport it happens to, they do the same shit to the NFL 🤣
If I showed shaqtin a fool clips from 2010 we can say the same thing. Someone fucking up from a clip doesn’t mean shit. Of course as years go and advancement in science and skills are gonna improve the overall lvl of the nba, but this take is a fucking crazy L.
Cherry picking plays in an era isn’t analyzing basketball. You can literally point out the same plays in every…single….era. I think the problem is that these idiots (Lebron fans) are going back and only trying to discredit Jordan and everyone is pushing back on it. We know Jordan had flaws but to discredit his career over a clip is insane. The fact that people still talk about Jordan decades later further proves he’s the standard.
Bruh I literally just saw this “we done with the 90s” thing like 10 minutes ago
I think I've never seen kobe doing this shit. I remember he used to praise the new generations very often. I hope more players do the same.
He was also very critical of guys like James Harden, saying his style of basketball wouldn't win a championship, criticized the mentality of players playing in the all star game, and said Ben Simmons needed to develop a jump shot [he didn't] or else he was gonna be out of the league which looks to be the case
@@masterchiefwasdonedirty9705True.
Granted those are critiques of individual players as opposed to painting an entire generation as worse.
@@masterchiefwasdonedirty9705 those are critiques of individuals, not a generation. They are also all true.
@@masterchiefwasdonedirty9705but he was also praising players like Giannis and Joker long before they became mvp calibre players, he respected all eras
@@masterchiefwasdonedirty9705 He has been 2 for 2 by far regarding harden and simmons. The guy is a student of the game, he did not give a shit about this era or that era, he cares about the game. This is why fans in general are insufferable, no matter which side they are on.
We done with 90s came the same time nba and Lakers fan are noticing the lakers might be better when somebody ain’t dominating the ball😂
Lmao facts
It’s funny how yall turning this into Lebron instead of refuting what is being said😭literally what u said has no correlation to this trend especially since what your saying is literally untrue🤣
@@jps0583there's nothing to refute 😂🤷🏽♂️. Know what is facts though? No one is watching this style of basketball anymore 😂
@@beastmodeforever8674 based on what? Ratings?🤣🤣🤣it’s hilarious how u try to sound smart but clearly don’t understand how tv works🤣🤣stay in yo lane old timer
@@jps0583 it's hilarious how you try to refute facts but you can't and you don't have anything else intelligent to say 😂 it's funny all I have to do is hit you with facts and you can't handle it you get emotional like a female lol
Even though a lot of the arguments that come from the “we done with the 90s” are insane and dumb I feel like this is only a natural retaliation to the oldheads slandering and lying about the current NBA and how their favorite 90s player would score 70 in todays game.
RT
But todays era is trash
@@liftedmarco4976Wow, way to prove his point in 20 minutes. I think that’s a new record 😂
@@liftedmarco4976 that’s your opinion I guess, but don’t be surprised when people say the same things about the era you love 🤷🏿♂️
The difference is that us older dudes actually saw both eras. Younger cats are watching a single game or highlight packages. I think the roasting is funny but this ain't a real argument
The MJ no left hand theory feels like the nba version of “Flat Earth” but yeah old heads gaslighting fans today about the lack of defense and physicality in the nba is almost just as bad. Idk why people can’t just enjoy the game and appreciate the artistry that existed in all eras
Even if it’s true, why would MJ focused on left when he’s known for cooking the league going up? Dude’s name is Air Jordan not Left Jordan
We just watched an all star where the winner scored 200 with almost 400 total points scored... you gotta calm down😂
First of all, it's not gas lighting that there is a lack of physicality in the NBA because it's literally not allowed in the fucking rules after the malice in the palace.
Second of all, even if it were true that Jordan didn't have a left hand (There are literally compilations of him finishing with his left and one of his most iconic moves ever was a switch handle left handed layup) it makes what he did even more impressive considering he went through real zones with no defensive three second rule and hand checking by only going right and averaged 30.12 for his career. 🤣
@@whenisdinner2137 its a double edge sword this snot eating new ERA is doing.. they will realize watching every MJ's game that he really is the GOAT
I mean Silver himself was on record years ago talking about rule changes to favor offense to give fans a better product because it would be more entertaining and now since it’s not working out how he thought it would he’s talking about looking into it again
I'm done with all of it. The pettiness, the lack of objectivity, the tribalism, and the hypocrisy from older AND younger fans who are so entrenched in these debates for whatever reason over things they CAN NOT PROVE and are NOT THAT SERIOUS. Devin Booker once said something about why rivalries in the NBA don't exist anymore, and I think it fits here: "It's not that deep."
You can tell who don’t watch basketball fr if they think it’s novel to send a player away from their dominant hand😂. Spoiler, you should also send them away from the basket and into help too
Just look at the goofy ass dude who is leading the trend, you think that dude has ever played organized basketball? I bet that dude has a jumper like Shawn Marion 😂 but talking about MJ going left
How can you say he don't watch basketball when he's literally watching and critiquing them
@@AndrewChin-ck9uk Wasnt talking about the guy everyone unanimously agrees is trolling. Im talking about the idiots taking him seriously
@@OGSauceDaddy Andrew being one of those idiots taking him seriously
I enjoy the unique feel of every decade in basketball, BUT when I consider how the modern game is critiqued by the fans, the media, and even former players, I can't be mad at the modern fans. Lowlights aren't useful evidence because every era has it's Shaqtin' moments.
I first saw this “trend” from ppl sharing it on Facebook like a month ago and I thought it was just some funny shit that would come and go. I never thought this would actually catch on and become a whole entire thing within the NBA community 🤣
Never heard that Barkley interview about Portland before 😂😂 man is caught red handed
This three point jacking, NO DEFENSE, load managing, super team forming, buddy buddy Era is TRASH !!
To be fair stature wise no one in the 90s would be able to compete with wilt, if his feats are accurate , that man was benching 600lb+ at 7’2 Co Signed by Arnold schwarzenegger..also the 90s was a dominant era for the nba.. Wilt’s middle name is domination.. put two and two together 💯🤫
Wilt would be dominant but he wouldn’t be putting up godly numbers like he did in his era. There just wasn’t enough possessions in the 90s like in the 60s
Not enough possessions but less defenders and more space for him to operate. His points would actually hold more weight since it a slower game
This generation of basketball is trash.
I'm done with not fighting my flesh, putting God first
The ratings say people are “”done with the 2020s””
I think I know what you're getting at and do agree offensive leniency is insane right now, but ratings and skills are 2 different topics
I think there's context missing with this statement
@@ronel7836What's missing?
Nobody watches cable dummies @@Blackobra614
TV deals are greater now than at any point, so the money says different 😂
We’re done with the trash ass 2020s already and the ratings don’t lie.
No one uses cable my guy 😂 mostly stream . And the rating just in state the game is global lol they are market there more then here lol .
nothing to do with basketball its the politics disgusting media and NBA leaders
To be fair to the current generation, and all generations to follow:
If all you do is look at raw TV ratings, you will sell more recent years short, and conversely oversell older years.
No one uses cable💀 alot of us watch on illegal streaming sites.
@@gorcsauce696go ahead and cope my dude.
All that "lockdown defense" was just the lack of offensive skill. Mfs was getting guarded like Draymond out there 😭
Simple question: Why is the NBA as a product dying if the basketball so elite?
@@blaqceeza Even simpler question - is the NBA dying as a product? If so, how?
easy to have no offensive skill when you can’t barely get a shot off 😂
@@goat7651ts made no sense
Then why did the 70s and 80s have higher scores? You think they got WORSE at offense? Jesus H, dude 🤣
Kid, NBA ratings are at an all time low. The majority of the fan base is done with this new era lol
Ratings are based on cable. Cable is not the dominant way in which this shit is viewed. Y'all just ignorant.
The trend is making fun of toxic old fans, simple as that.
@@Stryker1297The great majority of sponsors not just the NBA gets but in other sports too is still based on cable viewership which they make more than 65% of their total income with.
You saying it's not the 'the dominant way in which its viewed' and calling others ignorant is thus kinda funny.
Especially when virtually every big sport has voiced their concerns about how the younger generations watch so little full games, that have to cone up with drastic meassures to go against the market not becoming a bubble.
Revenue is at an all-time high…
@@Stryker1297man stop it women’s college hoops gets higher ratings then nba,every college football game on espn had higher ratings nba trash now
@@zotanica Thats simply not true and something you can easily look up so you should actually look it up before you say it bruh.
It’s all related to LeBron fans being salty that LeBron will never be on Michael Jordan‘s level. It’s called desperation.
I'm not LeBron fan, but I can tell you right now this is totally deserved.
The 90s had some ugly ass basketball by today's standards and the average player was worse than the average player today (stars of any era are roughly the same in my opinion).
We need to stop pretending defense was better in the 90s when in reality it was that the offense was worse and made defenses look better.
90s basketball looks a lot like college basketball today, but it's not due to the rules, it's due to the fact that so many teams either can't shoot or only have 1 guy on the floor that can create his own shot. Like I don't watch college that often, but when i do I just can't believe how bad the overall skill level is in comparison to the nba. Then going back and watching the 90s nba (which I saw live as well since I'm in my 30s) I realize how much 90s nba mirrors today's college game when it comes to overall talent on the offensive end.
We done with that trash ass 90's era. Jordan is my goat. But his era was big trash in terms of competition. Expansion teams with a lot of mediocre teams. You had some above average teams but none of those teams outside of the bulls were these great teams old heads be talking about. They lying. 80's had more competition then the 90's.
@@bigpoppa3999 you do realize MJ played in the 80s and 90s right lol. You do realize the NBA had its best ratings in the 90e Jordan era right. Today’s NBA has some of the leagues lowest ratings, load management, horrible all star game and talent not spread throughout the league. 90s was very competitive, MJ was just that good. And yea MJ is the goat this is already known. This is the cupcake no defense era, we done with it. 🥷 wearing fingernail polish and dresses lmao.
This literally has nothing to do with Lebron😭the original guy who started this never mentioned Lebron in any of his videos…u MJ fans r tryna turn this into a GOAT debate instead of actually refuting what these people r saying about your era
@@jps0583 🧢. This has lebron bronsexual all over it. No fan base other than LBJ’s disrespects the greats of the past to elevate their guy. And there ain’t no debate lol there’s MJ then everyone else. Nobody 4-6 years in finals with superstar teams, finals meltdown and bag less can be in a goat debate.
WE DONE WITH THE 20's 🗣️🗣️🗣️
Yeah the Geneva Conventions were pretty ass
It’s always a dude who’d be left on the sidelines during pick up games who says this phrase.
😂
WE DONE WIT DA 90s
To each their own, todays ball is pretty boring to me. Prefer 2000s ball
We got 2000s ball the other day in that 79-73 game and it was pure ass 😂
@@scarramakesmemoist739 wouldn’t know 🤷🏼♂️
The slowest pace overall in the nba. The most stagnant offense overall in the nba. The lowest scoring average overall in the nba. But somehow despite all this i prefer it that way, scoting is actuallt valuable.
2000s ball was a brick laying competition
To many twitch streamers today.
EVERY decade has flaws… simple as that 🤷🏽♂️😂
Jordan was good at going left, he was just better going right since that was his dominant hand. This whole movement to diminish the 90s only exists just to diminish Jordan anyway since it is impossible to diminish him otherwise. If Jordan wasn't viewed as the GOAT, I bet most of the people trashing the 90s would either view it more favorably than they do now or they'd just be indifferent about that decade.
Bruh it’s the same in every sports, the game gets refined and perfected, it would be a problem if the sports and athletes stayed the same 😓
nah LOW the hawks played terrible defensively in that game vs luka😂😂
Well they’re a terrible defensive team 🤣
Wilt was talking CRAZYYY we need more players like that😭😭
How did I predict Legend of Losing would like this
I’m glad everyone is starting to realize the 90’s weren’t what we’ve been lead to believe they were like. I’ve tried watching so many games from the 90’s and they’re fr hard to watch
Slow game
that's probably because you have room temperature iq
Kendrick Perkins / But for real, not even Jordan views himself as a god and infallible player, he has confidence that he would win, but he said he had the best team in history...
NBA discourse still cooked. Over a decade later, it only regresses.
I'm sure somebody will say....the competition was trash.....but mj couldn't go left and still lead the league in scoring 10 times.... Obviously it didn't matter
Jealousy and envy look ugly on everybody, but these young snowflakes wear them even worse.
We not the one who been saying this era big trash and old ball was better, the second we do it it's jealousy and envious... but go off unc
@@M0byD1ck180 I am old and I am biased, but also, anyone my age has seen ball being played back in the day and today, so we can actually and factually compare between them. I know that some of the ballers today could play back in the day but alot would get smashed. Most of the guys from back in the day would be even better today and play longer since they wouldn't be getting beat up all the time.
Trying to put down an entire era that young folks are typically ignorant of just comes off as petty and stupid.
I'm not throwing blame at anyone except those that are "done with the 90's" because anybody that lived through that era knows that there wouldn't be any NBA today without the megastars of those 90's.
God bless you.
@@jeremiahharms2431 The only thing you said that is true in that entire essay is there would be no NBA without the 90's... yeah people like mike revolutionized the game to the point where the average player today is 10x more offensively skilled than that of the 90's. Which is why your other points are minute and lack a full grasp on the subject. If you don't think the game has advanced in the past 30 years with the advancements of the internet and social media, allowing EVERY SINGLE PLAYER to know the best training methods. Along with scouts being able to find the best prospects every where; YOU are the one being ignorant. You glorify a game of physicality and sloppiness, and the only reason it was played like that is because players simply couldn't do what they could today. This isn't about the goat debate to me I will always have it as 1a and 1b, so I could care less, you could even say the product or entertainment value was better, I couldn't really argue, but to deny the fact that the average player now is lightyears ahead of what it was 30 YEARS AGO is utter delusion and peak old head syndrome.
@@M0byD1ck180we don’t care 😂
@@M0byD1ck180 sure, if you say so. The improvement on offense is purposeful and directly linked to the difference in how they call penalties. Putting the players in today's NBA would add 10-20 points to their average per game output. The League is soft, on purpose, and recency bias is through the roof, especially with kids thinking they know better then everyone else. The ignorance is real. God bless you.
This is the most logical and reasonable take I've seen so far. I'm an oldhead BTW.
shaqtin a fool = we done with 2020s
tiktok is just as cancerous as twitter is
One of MJ most iconic shots is with the left hand not only that it was 12th shot in a row on showtime Lakers in the finals and they won that game...🤔🤔🤷🤷🤷
*Every player in every era in every sport is trash.*
I should try make it into the NBA if that’s the case. I could average 100
I feel like there were ton of nba stars that the game plan was to send them to their off hand. Make them uncomfortable. I remember people guarding James harden on his hip forcing him one direction to make him uncomfortable. And as you said it’s just skill set that has been developed humans from the 90’s can definitely learn those skills
All jokes and funny shit aside, basketball discourse is sooooo cooked now. This shit is unnecessarily toxic, and I’m talking about from both the old guys and young guys. All of them are biased as hell if we’re being honest. Again, it’s funny. But it’s getting to the point where it’s not even fun to engage anymore, especially as somebody who would qualify as a “middle child” in this eras debate.
Well in Dec 2010, LeBron James said the league should be contracted. James stated that the league was better in the 80s because there were less teams. His response was building a super team in Miam the following off season. Yall still think its about the 08-10 Cs. 😂😂 LeBron is more old school than his Stans want to believe.
Every generation of every sport and medium has its good and bad aspects.
The impact of social media though is worth acknowledging.
Prior to the mainstreaming of social media in the late 2000’s or early 2010’s, the bad aspects of every generation arguably weren’t as widely known because nobody was making entertainment out of roasting seemingly every failure they encountered.
So in a way, older failures or bad aspects are likely more forgotten because nobody was around to react to them at the time like we see now.
At least that’s what I would argue.
What do you think?
why didnt he back up ?? well hand check...why didnt he go straight up? well because the defender was a 7ft tall center who cant try to block you...not like today that a 6.8ft center cant jump to block you because 99% of the times its going to be called a defensive foul
I'm sorry, but cherry picking low lights will never be funny.
Big picture is we doin all this just so people can validate why Bron is the goat. Bottom line, based on his skills and Jordan skills Jordan is worlds beyond Bron. They sold this narrative and niggas bought it without hesitation.
Nah we're done with the 90's!!!! 🗣️🗣️ 🔥 🔥
If Michael was trash there are literally zero good basketball players. I guess every single pro hooper from 1990 to 1999 sucked according to these geniuses. And this is the NBA we're talking about. USA dominated the rest of the world. So I guess the rest of the world was even more trash. Conclusion: nobody ever has been good at basketball. Thank you tikTok.
I can see Wilt and Bill suffered from dementia in 1997 because wtf was those takes?? 😂😂😂😂😂
Didn’t know you could live 25 years with dementia 😂
@@legendarywiimaster Something has to be the cause to where their heads were at!
@@bRIOn909 Walt Frazier is even crazier. He said Wilt would average 75 PPG a game in the 90s
Some players still haven't attained said skills....a lot of players still can't play defense, and a lot of them still can't shoot regardless of how much they practice, i.e., Ben Simmons and Westbrook and those are considered All-Stars/HoFers. So we can't just pretend that Jordan will learn how to shoot just because he practices or is dedicated.
that super lockdown “defense” the old heads told us about was definitely a lie
The way they talk i thought everytime a guy drove to the basket he needed first aid for the next possession..😂😂
Keep telling yourself that kid
@@lestonclark2398 you told yourself that emoji boy
@@lestonclark2398 calls Durant a lockdown defender. Hahaha
These new guys don't appreciate defense in sports. Which by definition makes it not a sport, more an exhibition or exercise. They have to deal with low ratings, the recent all star games failures, the absolute avoidance of actual defense. Low can't handle objective truth, and takes it personal. There is alot of cope, and bad intent from this generation. Kobe called this era weak, Luka said today's Euro league is tougher than today's NBA. Are they old heads? No other era has gone at previous eras like this one. That's an indictment of this era.
1990 to 2006 was the golden age.
85-06 imo.... Definitely started dropping in 2006 tho. Hopeful for the new and international players
STOP!
Mike Peek is so funny. I loved his we done wit da 80s/90s. Lol he did like two of the 00s and got so much hate for it.
The MJ had no left is crazy when Mike has some of the most iconic "left" shots ever. "The Shot" on Ehlo to clinch the 89 Semis over the Cavs? Going left. The hand-switch layup in Game 2 of the 91 Finals against the Lakers, where he finishes with his left? The 97 Finals clinching shot? Going left. The 98 Finals clinching shot where he crossed over Russell...left. Like what are we talking about.
Also today Wilt probably would average 50 or 60 and it's because of the rules. Like watch Embiid and he'll iso his defender and attack the basket only when the help defender leaves the paint due to the 3 second rule. Just like no one can guard Jokic 1v1 in the post today, nobody today would be able to guard Wilt either. You'd have to help, and if you do it smart you wouldn't really be able to.
And Shaq in 1997 was athletic. Even big Shaq stayed in the whole game until he got in foul trouble. I don’t understand what bill russell was talking about.
Revisionist history is one hell of a drug for these old head
& rewriting history is one hell of a drug for the tik tok generation.
🤣🤣I think the funniest thing is people clowning on jordans early years but forget that the spurs entire defensive scheme was to go under the screen and let him shoot open deep mid ranges and threes
ima post a mixtape of lebron missing layups and wesbrook air balling 50 times and title it exposing the 2020s
The difference is you’d be compiling different clips across their long careers. All the other guy had to do was show one quarter of a 90s game and still got 10 lowlights💀
bro your trolling ide be able to make a mixtape of bad plays of 100 players just based off a game of footage your a bot and probably suck at basketball in real life lol@@goodguyscomelast2029
@@goodguyscomelast2029Some other guy made a compilation of all the misses and mistakes made in game 7 of the 2016 finals. The video I'm talking about makes Lebron, Steph, Klay, Irving and Love seem like they have never touched a basketball before.
@@goodguyscomelast2029😂😂and other eras don’t?
@@crashboy0bruh neither team scored for like 4 minutes or something. 89-89
Gen Z is just trolling old heads ion think none of us is serious 🤣🤣
yeah i know you are just pretending to be stupid
Wilt was kinda right in the sense that the 60's game really didn't allow physicality. You can find clips of guys getting called for a charge simply backing down the defender in the softest way possible. Wilt was a physical freak and an era like the 90's when physicality was much more tolerated and even the play style for some teams would have been more beneficial for him
With everything comes progression. When basketball was invented the goal was to put The ball into the hoop more times than the opponents. Once that was established the game progressed with trying to find much clever ways to score. With rule changes came the difference in gameplay styles. Over time people study the game to learn how to dribble better so year after year dribbling has enhanced. It used to be leave The dribbling up to the smaller players because the tall you were the less coordinated you became. Now everything has caught up taller players can now handle the ball like smaller guards. So in the '80s and '90s of course most people only had one dominant hand that they use but the competition for the '90s was tough for the '90s. You can't take a 90s team and bring them into this era as is and think they can win games without adapting to the new style of game. You can drop any team from now into the '90s and they most likely will win a championship. People need to just open their brains up and understand the progression of life. Cars with different 30 years ago but it doesn't mean that those cars weren't the best cars of their time but most cars nowadays out shining any car from 30 years ago. Let's just appreciate the game for what it was back then and what it has become because 20 years from now it's going to be a different game.
The nba is reviewing the league right now cause they know the nba is failing so talk about that
Talk about the nba and they reviewing the league
The problem is that we were told that MJ was basically flawless growing up.
??????
We was. As time went on I learned about the flaws he had. That’s why I can’t respect the oldheads
You need to be done with the cheesburgers😂 WE DONE WITH YOU RAINBOW POWERED FRUIT PUFFS
My problem with todays nba it's too soft lack of defense don't like it
4:59 none of the players youre referring to are considered, "the greatest player of all time". Fact is, old heads talked about Michael Jordan like he could do EVERYTHING & ANYTHING; but, we just proved he struggled with going left
You are completely missing the point here. No one is saying hes the only player in history to not have a left hand.
We are questioning his "dominance".. can his dominance really be that crazy when we just saw the defense he played against ? When we saw him go right 80% of the time?
7:07 once again completely missing the point.
WE DONE WITH THE 90s!!!
WE DONE WITH THE 90s‼️
"Im not done with your....something starting with a "M" 🙄
We done with the 90s
@@Ray-dn5yqold head getting out the yo mama jokes cause his goat was Jaylen Brown but bald
@bean2419 1- Old head??? LOLLL Do you know how old am I? LOLLLL
2- My GOAT is undefeated in the final!
3- You gotta feal DUMMBB as fuckk to see Jalen Brown Only using his right, being the most paid player in the league and being a All-Star...DUMBB!!
If y’all done when the 90s imma need all those Jordan’s you wear then lol.
Listen, all things being equal, if players from older eras had the same access to medicine, apparel technology, updated drills, and overall all better physical care, they'd wipe the floor with current day players because current day players, outside of a handful, have zero heart.
I can tell every champion in the 90 s because back in the day u wanted to play against the competition not join the team that u can’t get past……talent is just better but overall mindset of a team is bad for the game
There's footage of Bron knocking down 3s his whole 1st stint with cleveland. However if you were old enough and a cavs fan back then you would remember
Facts! You would remember his bum ass was the reason they lost in those 07 finals
What's crazy is that......ppl are asking for the all-star weekend to damn near be eliminated in this era but aye 🤷🏾♂️ lol.
People criticize new basketball is rule changes that heavily favor offense, just like NFL
Oldheads getting a taste of their own medicine is good. The whole point is that the criticism doesn’t even have to be legitimate, it’s solely to annoy.
Every time someone just wants to enjoy current basketball, someone’ll tell them it sucks and it was better back then based on absolutely fuck all. Telling them to fuck off, that 90s ball sucked, and 90% of the players were trash, is justified when the oldheads don’t have anything to back up what they’re saying.
Too be fair Larry Birds point about Expansion teams was/is legit.
When you expand to so many markets so quick, and set the rules the way they did, you create a league with very little parity, where there’s the good teams, and then the trash barely even watchable teams.
Which is what actually happened to the nba, and other leagues.
They’ve since learned from their mistakes and most recently the nhl has shown, you expand to 1 market at a time, and craft the rules to where the expanded market at least has a chance of being competitive, and it works way better.
facts
And STILL Dominated shutup.
in 2040 we'll see future fans saying lebron and giannis played plumbers and firemen
I think we can admit that with each era of basketball. It has routinely gotten easier to score. Centers in the 60 would absolutely be better in the 80s and 90s. I don’t know about the boards and points but in terms of wilt, he’d have way more easier buckets with the relaxing of charges and offensive fouls. Old heads need to admit that some of the guys today could play back then. Everything doesn’t have to be so offensive
You gotta admit, it is pretty funny.
It's not good basketball analysis, but I don't think it was meant to be. Anyone taking it seriously is an idiot, but if you're in on the joke at the oldheads' expense (and they kind of had it coming), it's objectively funny
What's even funnier are the massive amount of oldheads who took the bait and started making butthurt response videos
isaiah thomas said the game plan IN COLLEGE was send him left but by the time he was in the later part of his career in the nba “he turned his weaknesses into strengths” so he just took the whole clip out of context to make a point that isn’t true.
Done with the 90s and other absurd claims are just a distraction from Lebron's alleged use of PEDs as insinuated by KG. The timing is impeccable.
11:23 LOW giving us his best TicketTV impression 😂
All a dis started w that "plumbers and firefighter" shlander. Pure disrespect...and then it blossomed😢
7:13 even adam silver said offense may have gone too far.
One these days you younger fans will be the new old heads, and those days are coming quicker than you think. I know every single one of you will swear you'll never be that way, but I promise you a majority of y'all will.
14:07 😂😂😂😂 “we done with the blatant hypocrisy” “that’s big TRASH chuck” #peektown
Gen Zer's are the 1st generation to not have a mental capacity to take critique but also understand that the world didn't start 18 years ago.
god i just think it’s funny that you could go watch a video made like a month ago saying that lebron would average 3 ppg or some bs and then watch a video of micheal jordan airballing a midrange. i’m just happy that ratio of oldheads being annoying and new nba fans being annoying has finally came to a stable point