TSP #25 - Teardown and Repair of an Agilent E4421A Synthesized Signal Generator

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  • Опубліковано 6 жов 2024
  • In this episode Shahriar repairs an Agilent E4421A synthesized signal generator purchased from eBay. The unit displays the error messages "UNLOCK" and "UNLEVEL". The cause of failure is investigated and traced. Alongside the repair efforts, the internal construction and components of the synthesizer are also presented. A short tutorial on the advantages and disadvantages of using a Darlington transistor is also presented as well as the schematic of a simple Darlington based voltage regulator. The documents for this tutorial can be found at www.TheSignalPath.com
    The Signal Path
    www.TheSignalPath.com

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  • @EEVblog
    @EEVblog 11 років тому +4

    I don't have nearly the luck you do with faulty ebay gear! That's a nice score and an easy fix in the end.

  • @Thesignalpath
    @Thesignalpath  11 років тому +4

    CAT-scans are free! ;)
    At Bell Labs my research is focused on mm-wave integrated circuits design for wireless and wireline communication.

  • @gamccoy
    @gamccoy 11 років тому +2

    I enjoyed the video. Hats off to the original engineers that placed those indicators on the motherboard, too. It's nice they took the time to put those breadcrumbs in there for us. And as always, I appreciate the time you took to describe some of the theory.

  • @TheCrazyInventor
    @TheCrazyInventor 11 років тому +4

    I love watching your troubleshooting videos. I have some old scopes lying around that need fixing. This video really motivates me to get started!

  • @nikoladivic2786
    @nikoladivic2786 4 роки тому

    Thank you verry much.I am not on your level, but your explanation is so simple and logic that I learn every time something .Best teacher , regards from Croatia !!!!!!!

  • @capriracer351
    @capriracer351 11 років тому

    Another excellent video. I did not realize that Bell labs was still active. I am glad that they are, many great things have come out of that building. They definitely have one employee that is quite impressive, for certain. Keep up the great work.

  • @0PAIx
    @0PAIx 11 років тому +1

    Good to have you back. I have been regularly searching for new video offerings and insights from you. I don't always fully understand the detail, but follow the principles and learn a little more than I knew previously.
    I particularly like your episode balance where you have a lab experiment to demonstrate in the second half of your video.
    Thank you - Ian

  • @WhitentonMike
    @WhitentonMike 11 років тому

    Good video. I'll have to admit, I was waiting for smoke when you supplied 9V to the circuit. I'd have wimped out and just replaced the TIP122 without trying to supply the 9V. Nicely done.

  • @spacewalker3519
    @spacewalker3519 4 роки тому

    I enjoyed this video for sure. I started working in the repair industry a couple years ago. For me, the most interesting work is testing and troubleshooting. So, seeing the steps outlined here that eventually led to fault isolation was very educational. Next time I see a power rail getting clobbered, and i know it's not the CCA's, i'll apply a some various currents to test the integrity of that line.

  • @ToniT800
    @ToniT800 11 років тому

    BTW Shahriar. I want to thank you! Your troubleshooting/repair videos helped me to do my first repair in my life on HP 33120A function generator. I also purchased it from ebay "as is" and the output was always on -17 V. But i didn't panic=) I just remembered how you fixed your equipment with step by step procedures, and it worked:)

  • @bkupiec
    @bkupiec 11 років тому

    Teardown, repair, and tutorial all in one concise video. Your channel is one of the best!

  • @DJSolitone
    @DJSolitone 11 років тому

    WOW Shahriar the wait was worth it. This video is simply amazing (as usual), but you are getting even better!! I think my cat could understand your repair process. In bonus thanks for the Darlington mini course. Just perfect. You just Rock!!! Please come back to us with more videos!! You deserved the glass of wine!!

  • @Thesignalpath
    @Thesignalpath  11 років тому

    You have to be patient. It is always risky to buy broken equipment. Also, you often need working equipment to fix the broken ones! Start with the basics, save up $1500 and you can easily start a nice lab with that.
    Choosing your words carefully when explaining something scientific is extremely important. This is something that I always emphasized to my students as well.

  • @Thesignalpath
    @Thesignalpath  11 років тому

    ASICS also fail of course as well as processors. Unfortunately, in those cases, there is not much that can be done unless a replacement component is available. A while back I bought a broken Agilent scope and found out that the main ADCs were bad. I essentially had to throw it away.

  • @KeenanTims
    @KeenanTims 11 років тому

    We appreciate it Shahriar, thank you for your in depth analyses, they are certainly a substantial and useful contribution to many wannabe EEs like myself. Can't wait for more videos!

  • @964tractorboy
    @964tractorboy 11 років тому

    Very good news to see another offering to the usual high standard.
    Thank you for giving up so much of your time.

  • @PY4SR
    @PY4SR 11 років тому

    Thanks for this excellent video, Shahriar. I have the E4400b and I believe the schematics. I'll check and send to you.
    I have to join my buddies: please stay on, your videos are always very expected.

  • @DJSolitone
    @DJSolitone 11 років тому

    HALLELUJAH Shahriar is back!!!!!!! That's some good news!!!

  • @ggattsr
    @ggattsr 11 років тому

    So glad you are back with more great videos. Thanks so much for sharing your incredible knowledge in a way that makes it easy to understand. Anxiously awaiting the next one.

  • @nemanjatodorovic2803
    @nemanjatodorovic2803 11 років тому

    Finally! Every day I check your channel. You have a very good channel, very informative, very useful! Thank you!

  • @CoolMusicToMyEars
    @CoolMusicToMyEars 10 років тому

    A good find, I always enjoyed repairing test equipment as deputy head of a NAMAS - UKAS test laboratory, I noticed Agilent changed from giving out diagrams & supplying block diagrams on most of their new test equipment some time ago, when it was HP it was very detailed diagrams, most Agilent is made in Malaysia these days on test equipment, it's still a good company, but I have a preference for the old HP equipment being of that era,
    Thanks for putting it on, I enjoyed the video and a heads into a unit I not seen before.

  • @Thesignalpath
    @Thesignalpath  11 років тому

    Thanks Dave! I have had my share of bad luck also. I think it is unavoidable. But this was definitely a fun fix!

  • @gregoberfield
    @gregoberfield 11 років тому

    Big thumbs up - especially for the glass of wine at hand towards the end. :)

  • @snipersquad100
    @snipersquad100 11 років тому

    Great fix, Nice to see you back.

  • @sdscotto
    @sdscotto 11 років тому

    Welcome back. Always glad to see a new video from you, Alan, Mike and Dave.

  • @LevonAvagyan
    @LevonAvagyan 11 років тому +1

    Apres Shahriar!
    Please keep doing great videos!

  • @shaqywacky
    @shaqywacky 11 років тому

    Look at all those screwdrivers on the top right at 34:35. That's the most beautiful thing I've ever seen.

  • @NerdNordic
    @NerdNordic 11 років тому

    Aweeeyah! I have missed your videos Shahriar!

  • @youpattube1
    @youpattube1 6 років тому

    Following along as you solve the problem is a blast.

  • @vex9060
    @vex9060 11 років тому

    Really nice repair teardown tutorial, I learned some good things from it and your explanations. Keep posting we need channels like this!

  • @hpux735
    @hpux735 11 років тому

    Great to have you back! Your videos are my favorite! I wish I had the confidence to invest in broken test gear.

  • @Dimlowuk
    @Dimlowuk 11 років тому

    Glad your back. The internet was getting boring.

  • @SirBunghole
    @SirBunghole 11 років тому

    The "Cat" scan did it for me! Well done!

  • @corntragic
    @corntragic 11 років тому

    your videos are awesome. I am studying for my BS in EE, I really appreciate your work!

  • @dahappiehippie
    @dahappiehippie 11 років тому

    This was really great!!! I wish there was more quality content like from you, Dave and Mike!!!

  • @srscricket
    @srscricket 11 років тому

    I'm glad to see another video from you!

  • @distancelab2010
    @distancelab2010 11 років тому

    So interesting, and thanks for the explanation of how a darlington device works and how to use them.
    Thank You :)

  • @SeanBZA
    @SeanBZA 11 років тому

    The darlington will benefit from a heatsink on it in addition to the PC board it is on. You can get ones that will screw to the top of the TO220 case and will have a thermal resistance of about 22C per watt, which will make it run cooler. It probably overheated in use with marginal airflow.

  • @Hatimoooo
    @Hatimoooo 11 років тому

    I just discovered this channel from EEVblog.
    I really like it. Good job!

  • @ourplesoop
    @ourplesoop 11 років тому

    Ah you must love it when a repair goes that smooth. Shame about the shipping damage. One thing though, I wonder if the TIP device will fail in the future. It seems like a fair bit of power to be dissipating...

  • @makutingting
    @makutingting 11 років тому

    Thanks for the great video. I learned a different approach of injecting power from an external source to a known bad point in a circuit (without removing any of the components suspected to be causing the problem). Is this always applicable when isolating power supply problems? Isn't it dangerous at some point ? - But then, I guessed you've already assessed that given your level of expertise on electronics & electrical principles, you just know your stuff very well. Keep up the great work!

  • @Thesignalpath
    @Thesignalpath  11 років тому

    I hope so too. The block diagram and functionality is very similar to the other synthesizer I have repaired. You can find that episode on my channel.

  • @friedmule5403
    @friedmule5403 3 роки тому

    29:20 Thank you so much, I have never understood the basic logic in a Darlington pair, Yes I did know what it did and it got used, but the real understanding have I only got now, thanks to you!! :-)
    30:31 and phase shift, I do now know what is happening, it's a delay in the signal!
    40:38 I am assuming the reason for you not using "remote sense" is due to lack of space for one more probe? :-)

  • @urbandiscipline88
    @urbandiscipline88 10 років тому

    Thanks professor Shahriar, I enjoyed your video, and learned something. I always enjoy your videos.

  • @98505177229850590818
    @98505177229850590818 3 роки тому

    It would be great if you make series on how to use these instruments like synthesizer spectrum analyzer RF generator power meter splitter attenuators etc

  • @iknowsstuff
    @iknowsstuff 10 років тому

    that's some darn impressive guts in that sucker, lm317 fail in the same way, perfect voltage when open but it drops to near nothing when under load.
    Im amazed that a piece of pro kit like that was not fixed by those using it since they should have the skill to fix it!

  • @1903A3shooter
    @1903A3shooter 4 роки тому +1

    That was fun watching, love the cat scan. Dave

  • @tariqmehmood4955
    @tariqmehmood4955 6 років тому

    Mr.. You are a Gem of our world. Keep it up Sir 😊

  • @DogsBAwesome
    @DogsBAwesome 11 років тому

    that was really interesting, glad you got a result

  • @nashme11
    @nashme11 11 років тому

    Man I was having withdrawals welcome back.

  • @98505177229850590818
    @98505177229850590818 3 роки тому

    The way you decide darlington pair is used for regulator makes you different .. it’s coming from experience ..
    Great repair
    I would never have guess darlington pair is used for regulation .. I would have got confused for so many parts and you don’t have even schematics

  • @josebarrientos5191
    @josebarrientos5191 8 років тому

    awsome vids!! Thanks watching you troubleshoot helps me learn alot.

  • @RandyLott
    @RandyLott 11 років тому

    I'm always excited to see when you've uploaded a new video. I always learn a lot and enjoy your extremely accurate terminology. I can tell you make a great effort to ensure the correctness of your wording. Do you have any advice on how to search for test equipment while under a tight budget? I'm new in the field and I wish to get some good quality, used equipment.

  • @emd6456
    @emd6456 6 місяців тому

    Excellent video, thank-you.

  • @mikeselectricstuff
    @mikeselectricstuff 11 років тому

    You should send a still to Adafruit's "Cats of Engineering" page

  • @mickm7608
    @mickm7608 11 років тому

    Very good video.
    You should scrape off/remove the heatsink compound or pad.
    It was probably dried out and caused the failure.
    You seem very lucky with broken eBay stuff, broken off cap, bad $2 transistor etc.
    Mick M

  • @Thesignalpath
    @Thesignalpath  11 років тому +1

    Bell Labs is very active! :)

  • @MrPBrane
    @MrPBrane 11 років тому

    Thanks for another great video!
    Though I would of course like to see more of your videos, I actually prefer few videos of high quality over publishing more just for the sake of it. Keep up the good work!

  • @xDevscom_EE
    @xDevscom_EE 10 років тому

    Good repair, wish it could go always as easy as this :).
    And thumbs up for Darlington theory, it gives video more value then just tear down and replace parts stuff.
    Also how you handle cat around all that lab gear? Don't u afraid some hair get into all that precision expensive gear and cause problems? Maybe that's why all your lab is so clean and organized :D

  • @RandyLott
    @RandyLott 11 років тому

    Thank you Shahriar. I have an entry-level oscilloscope and logic analyzer. Do you think it's important to invest in a brand name power supply? I've always liked Agilent/HP units, but they're very expensive! Even the lowest cost Rigol unit is quite a bit, but it looks very appealing!

  • @amtpdb1
    @amtpdb1 11 років тому

    Great video. I want to learn electronic and want to buy an oscilloscope. How about doing a video on what to look for in them on EBAY and what type of fixes would not be too hard to either repair or have repaired.
    Thanks for the video.

  • @Razor2048
    @Razor2048 11 років тому

    Awesome video, please keep it up and hope to see more videos :)

  • @WisdomVendor
    @WisdomVendor 11 років тому

    Awesome vid dude. Very informative and enjoyable. Cute cat too. I also have a Russian Blue and he is constantly dead in the middle of what ever electronics I'm fooling with.

  • @GaRbAllZ
    @GaRbAllZ 11 років тому

    Great work and a very impressive lab!

  • @flanlemonjello
    @flanlemonjello 11 років тому

    Thanks so much - your channel is a significant and wonderful part of my online electronics experience :-) +1 for a victory glass of wine

  • @opablo_gm
    @opablo_gm 11 років тому

    I'm extremely happy to see you come back to making these great videos... THANKS... (I'm not an academic nor a professional... I'm a hobbist and I learned a lot from your videos)

  • @VahidShirvani
    @VahidShirvani 11 років тому

    I enjoyed watching this.

  • @Thesignalpath
    @Thesignalpath  11 років тому

    Thanks! By the way, what is the circuit of the IC in your profile photo?

  • @MeiklesAndDimes
    @MeiklesAndDimes 11 років тому

    Love these kind of videos!

  • @vex9060
    @vex9060 11 років тому

    welcome back!

  • @RoSi4You
    @RoSi4You 10 років тому

    Great job. I can't wait for the other videos :)

  • @tiredfingers99
    @tiredfingers99 10 років тому

    When you attached the exterior 9 volt supply did you consider using a fuse or limiting the current supply because possibly one of the modules may have drawn a lot of current at one time? Thanks for a great video.

  • @tectalabyss
    @tectalabyss 11 років тому

    Thank you very much for this interesting and informative video. Much respect to you Sir. I'll be looking for more from you. Liked, Tweeted,Favored.And added to Playlist. You Take care. Tec

  • @Thesignalpath
    @Thesignalpath  11 років тому

    Thanks! Much appreciated.

  • @vaualbus
    @vaualbus 11 років тому

    at the end you haven't describe how the sytetizer work and you haven't show us the block digram. I wish that the next repair video wouldn't be a psu problem. It happen twice that on interesting equipment the problem is the psu!
    Goo video.

  • @BrookeHedrick
    @BrookeHedrick 11 років тому

    Wow! This was an excellent video. Thank you.

  • @hitechespresso
    @hitechespresso 8 років тому

    Awesome! a valuable machine saved for 61 cents!!

  • @hdmalpas
    @hdmalpas 10 років тому

    Very nice video keep up the great work and it is very much appreciated. all the best.

  • @AureliusR
    @AureliusR 11 років тому +6

    Whoa, whoa whoa, if FedEx dropped my package and damaged the contents THEY would be paying for repairs, not me!!!!

    • @BruceNitroxpro
      @BruceNitroxpro 5 років тому +1

      Aurelius R, I hope you were right about that.

  • @FennecTECH
    @FennecTECH 7 років тому

    47:34 now THAT meter is a blast from the past

  • @wadehicks9270
    @wadehicks9270 5 років тому

    That was a cool repair 👌👌👌👌👌

  • @DavidLeeMenefee
    @DavidLeeMenefee 11 років тому

    Thumbs up. Nice video that's well explained.

  • @redshift78
    @redshift78 11 років тому

    Wecome Back!!!

  • @DaveCurran
    @DaveCurran 11 років тому

    Very interesting video, thanks.

  • @Nikkuuu69
    @Nikkuuu69 10 років тому

    Hahah I lost it when I saw the cat sitting on a ~6K spectrum analyzer :') be aware of ESD!

  • @skycarl
    @skycarl 11 років тому

    Really good,,,thank you.

  • @OneCoolDude08
    @OneCoolDude08 11 років тому

    The image originated from the USC - Viterbi School of Engineering website. They have it in high res 1373 × 1248 pixels

  • @atw4321
    @atw4321 Рік тому

    Well now i know who to contact when i have a problem mine 😅i have the ESG-2000A

  • @douro20
    @douro20 11 років тому

    A DSP? The 68332 has lots of functionality for measurement and control, but I see no mention of a DSP in the spec sheet.

  • @ObviousSchism
    @ObviousSchism 10 років тому +3

    Cats of Engineering!

  • @jdennee
    @jdennee 10 років тому

    WOW, this is so inspiring!

  • @Sixta16
    @Sixta16 7 років тому

    Lovely cat and easy repair!

  • @Afrotechmods
    @Afrotechmods 11 років тому +1

    kitty!!

  • @DanielRowe
    @DanielRowe 11 років тому

    Thanks heaps!

  • @radoinc
    @radoinc 11 років тому

    ...and you can see the 100MHz peak right there under the cat's butt :)
    Great stuff, thanks!

  • @anmingren8747
    @anmingren8747 4 роки тому

    purely gold

  • @ChipGuy
    @ChipGuy 11 років тому

    I have forgotten what it is. I remember searching for intel 4004 when i found that.

  • @TheJennetteFan
    @TheJennetteFan 11 років тому

    HE IS ALIVE.

  • @90chevytruck
    @90chevytruck 11 років тому

    Its been a while!!!

  • @KX36
    @KX36 11 років тому

    How come some people seem to always get the failed transistor or failed capacitor repairs while others always get the multiple shorts in large ICs failures... sigh.
    "very low frequencies, lets say 100MHz" ... classic! yeah, 100Mhz that's basically DC to a mm-wave guy.