BIT: "Hey can I copy your homework?" SA: "Sure but don't make it look obvious" BIT Extra: It definitely feels like there was more effort put into making the boss here, which is more than I can say for FFF's Extra, but there's a few similarities to Koishi's attacks that it's hard not to notice once you realize it (even part of the theme uses part of Hartmann's Youkai Girl). I'll at least give Gore the fact he didn't just throw in Koishi as the Extra boss for whatever reason (or try to get popular character points?) but Ringo basically having Sanae's spell cards but with a thin coat of paint is a bit awkward.
OK I will be completely honest here. The boss is -for gore standards - really not that bad. It DOES have creative and mostly original patterns as far as I can see. I can actually see some creativity in those patterns. So CLEARLY gore CAN make creative new patterns... So why doesn't he do that more? Why is the stage a near 1:1 copy from SA Extra? The most frustrating thing about gore - aside from his... interesting opinions regarding the west - is that he CAN produce a great game. He DOES have the necessary skill. He CAN produce interesting and original patterns, but he simply does not do it.... No matter how great the boss is, I would hate having to play through a stage I already know every time I want to fight it.
@@epro6749 Several Xenophobic things, insulting western players and especially fangames and fangame makers. And then he sent a death threat to popfan after he criticized this game on his LNN video. He is a REALLY bad person tbh...
I agree with you - he's fully capable of making something good and original so why does he constantly rely on existing patterns so much? I was honestly wowed by the cork spells in stage 5 and wanted to see more cool shit like that
This is pretty much like an SA Phantasm, and that is by no means a bad thing; It is really cool to see old ideas with creative twists in them, I'm a big fan of the Sun Wu Kong inspiration being applied over spells, both old and new Same thing with Ringo, honestly This really ain't bad at all
The one issue i had with Gore's games is that they focus more on making them look pretty instead how fun and challenging they're supposed to be. The result however is that the screen looks clustered with so many details i tend to not be able to see the bullets properly. Plus, they are either too slow or too fast, depending on the difficulty, not helped by how the hitboxes tend to either be non-existent or are just bigger than the bullet. Not to mention the patterns are so basic than Junko would look more creative in comparison to Gore's over use of static lasers and rainbow patterns. I get that they're trying to be more creative with BIT than if FFF and PoIB, but there are so many things taken from previous Touhou games there's barely any improvement.
Really the wukong 2hu boss is the best thing outta this extra. The spell using the staff and the random effect bullets was great. The stage however...... Is just SA extra 1:1. Even ringo is copying sanae's midboss spellcards with added dangos.....and FAR more easier. September 2023 edit: and now the boss is not as original since zun already gave us a monke youkai lol EDIT AUGUST 2024: Somehow gore is STILL updating this game and now added Sakuya with 3 shottypes. Apparently you gotta clear the game in ALL dificulties (that is easy, normal, hard, lunatic and extra) and she'll be unlocked.
...Why? Why is the stage a complete recreation of the original? I don't understand Also, the boss has stars making the outline of hearts Put in a bit of Koishi why don't ya?
![Touhou Danmakufu: SpellCardCollection Second [Part 1]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/aJAA0gpKSbM/mqdefault.jpg)
BIT: "Hey can I copy your homework?"
SA: "Sure but don't make it look obvious"
BIT Extra:
It definitely feels like there was more effort put into making the boss here, which is more than I can say for FFF's Extra, but there's a few similarities to Koishi's attacks that it's hard not to notice once you realize it (even part of the theme uses part of Hartmann's Youkai Girl). I'll at least give Gore the fact he didn't just throw in Koishi as the Extra boss for whatever reason (or try to get popular character points?) but Ringo basically having Sanae's spell cards but with a thin coat of paint is a bit awkward.
Which part uses Hartmann’s Youkai Girl?
there’s also a bit of clownpiece in the spell cards
The Son Biten we have at home.
Kinda feels like Gore made this game for himself.
Yeah and what if he did that?
OK I will be completely honest here.
The boss is -for gore standards - really not that bad. It DOES have creative and mostly original patterns as far as I can see. I can actually see some creativity in those patterns. So CLEARLY gore CAN make creative new patterns... So why doesn't he do that more? Why is the stage a near 1:1 copy from SA Extra?
The most frustrating thing about gore - aside from his... interesting opinions regarding the west - is that he CAN produce a great game. He DOES have the necessary skill. He CAN produce interesting and original patterns, but he simply does not do it....
No matter how great the boss is, I would hate having to play through a stage I already know every time I want to fight it.
What opinions? Did he have a controversy that I missed?
@@epro6749 Several Xenophobic things, insulting western players and especially fangames and fangame makers. And then he sent a death threat to popfan after he criticized this game on his LNN video.
He is a REALLY bad person tbh...
I agree with you - he's fully capable of making something good and original so why does he constantly rely on existing patterns so much? I was honestly wowed by the cork spells in stage 5 and wanted to see more cool shit like that
I dunno why it looks pathetically easy for an extra boss ;-;
Edit: Ok nvm that was only the first half lives that seem easy
He simply can't be good at this point. Three games and it still look like trash, compared to the team making Last Comer to Riverbed Soul Saver lol.
This is pretty much like an SA Phantasm, and that is by no means a bad thing; It is really cool to see old ideas with creative twists in them, I'm a big fan of the Sun Wu Kong inspiration being applied over spells, both old and new
Same thing with Ringo, honestly
This really ain't bad at all
The one issue i had with Gore's games is that they focus more on making them look pretty instead how fun and challenging they're supposed to be. The result however is that the screen looks clustered with so many details i tend to not be able to see the bullets properly. Plus, they are either too slow or too fast, depending on the difficulty, not helped by how the hitboxes tend to either be non-existent or are just bigger than the bullet. Not to mention the patterns are so basic than Junko would look more creative in comparison to Gore's over use of static lasers and rainbow patterns.
I get that they're trying to be more creative with BIT than if FFF and PoIB, but there are so many things taken from previous Touhou games there's barely any improvement.
The thing is many of them doesn't look pretty.
7:00 Oh, that’s how you’re supposed to dodge it. I sorta thought you had to stay near Geppai and dodge the stars at point blank
Well, that's a way too. I haven't tried it much because it wasn't needed for this shot type. Komachi killed the spell quite fast lol
Really the wukong 2hu boss is the best thing outta this extra. The spell using the staff and the random effect bullets was great.
The stage however...... Is just SA extra 1:1. Even ringo is copying sanae's midboss spellcards with added dangos.....and FAR more easier.
September 2023 edit: and now the boss is not as original since zun already gave us a monke youkai lol
EDIT AUGUST 2024: Somehow gore is STILL updating this game and now added Sakuya with 3 shottypes. Apparently you gotta clear the game in ALL dificulties (that is easy, normal, hard, lunatic and extra) and she'll be unlocked.
those spinning dangos are from violet detector too
@@bachtrinh8783 oh fuck that makes it worse. I forgot about VD for a second.
in the survival spell, you can just stay at the top wall right ?
Occasionally Geppai will wall you that way, plus the stars at the end
WAIT THERE'S A TOUHOU SHMUP FANGAME WHERE YOU CAN PLAY AS KOMACHI?!?!
...Why?
Why is the stage a complete recreation of the original?
I don't understand
Also, the boss has stars making the outline of hearts
Put in a bit of Koishi why don't ya?
pro
Cute pfp
over valance komachi...
pog
That is one of the ugliest designs I have ever seen for a fanmade Touhou character...
I'd say it's better than everything gore has made design wise
monke
2hu