2025-2028 is still a bars quad. Without Simone and Rebeca in AA (they may come back in AA later), AA and TF will favor consistent bars workers and disfavor floor workers.
Why do you say they are against floor workers? (Not hating just curious). The rules made it easier to get a higher d score on floor. Direct B to D skills get 0.2 and indirect c to d skills get 0.2 as well.
@@damienpatrickshane9056it's a very small improvement compared to the current difference, putting ALL the competitions of the Olympics together no one except Biles and Andrade scored above 14, everything was 12-13, bars/beams with falls were almost higher!
@@rejepe what do you think they can do to improve floor. I also think that it’s partially the fault of the gymnasts. A lot of them do not have routines that cover the artistic requirements. There has been a serious lack of creative choreography in my opinion.
@@damienpatrickshane9056 maybe mandating 2 or more spins on floor cause spins makes the routine more enjoyable to watch than tumbling passes without tempering with tumbling D's
They would greatly improve floor and make it less sexist if they got rid of most "artistic requirements" in my book. Hate how they trash world class gymnasts because they don’t dance elegantly enough. Could accept that though if they forced men to do the same. That would change the floor podiums in MAG completely. Imagine the uproar, the outrage … 🤣
Is in the grip , you can see in the ling chinese gymnasts do a "hop" with one hand while rotating , i wish not only chinese gymnast did those elements they are my favorite
1. Healy: A healy can actually be used more generically to describe any turn occurring one hand. For example, when men perform a Diamidov on parallel bars, they are completing a Healy. Thus, any of the one-armed pirouettes on uneven bars are all technically healys. When a gymnast performs a Healy turn from reverse / undergrip and initiates the turn before reaching handstand, this is commonly referred to as a 'Lin' after Lin Li. This skill entered the COP following the 2004 Olympic Games, but is not currently named after anyone. 2. Ling: While the Ling is often described as a one-arm pirouette, this is actually not how the skill was performed and credited to Ling Jie. Here is the original skill description of the Ling from when it entered the COP after the 1999 World Championships: 'Handstand on high bar - giant circle swing forward in L grip with stretched body to handstand with hop to regular grip on one arm during 1/2 turn to inside and continue with 1/2 turn outward to end in L grip in handstand phase. If you look closely at the hands of any of the gymnasts that perform this element, you can see that this technique is still utilized today. In this video, pay particular attention at 3:54 and notice how she releases the bar with her left hand and then regrasps in regular grip. She then performs another 1/2 turn to return to L-grip, as opposed to rotating 360 degrees on a single hand.
-With a Healy you start with reverse grip then pirouette on one arm 360 degrees to end in L grip. -With a Ling you start with L grip, do a quick "hop" to change to reverse grip, then pirouette on one arm 360 degrees to end in L grip. -The other one-armed pirouette is the Ono, where you start in L grip then pirouette on one arm 360 degrees to end in reverse grip (so it's basically the opposite of the Healy). -Under the COP you cannot count both an Ono and a Ling; only one of them may count.
A Healy(Lin) starts off in reverse grip, does a pirouette and ends in L grip. A Ling starts in L grip, does a hop grip change to reverse to complete the pirouette and ends in L grip
Derwael's D score will be a 6.4 under the 2025-2028 COP. The calculation of the total D score at 1:17 only shows 0.5 of CV, but the routine actually has 0.6 of CV. D + F both with flight x 1 (Downie + Pak salto), 0.2 CV D with turn or flight + D or more with turn or flight x 4 (Pak salto + Maloney, Ezhova + Stalder Shaposhnikova, Stalder Shaposhnikova + Bhardwaj, and Toe-on Full + Full Twisting Double Tuck Dismount) - 0.4 CV Total CV - 0.6 (Edited 8/24/24 to include CV detail)
@@gaodrob7938- The routine has a total of 0.6 in CV as follows: D + F both with flight x 1 (Downie + Pak salto), 0.2 CV D with turn or flight + D or more with turn or flight x 4 (Pak salto + Maloney, Ezhova + Stalder Shaposhnikova, Stalder Shaposhnikova + Bhardwaj, and Toe-on Full + Full Twisting Double Tuck Dismount) - 0.4 CV Total CV - 0.6
Kaylia Nemour's routine is very efficient and no excessive kips. Its difficulty is directly rewarded in E as well.
I mean Kaylia had a 7.2 d score in 2024 as her Derwael-Fenton was never credited so it’s still the same.
2025-2028 is still a bars quad. Without Simone and Rebeca in AA (they may come back in AA later), AA and TF will favor consistent bars workers and disfavor floor workers.
Why do you say they are against floor workers? (Not hating just curious). The rules made it easier to get a higher d score on floor. Direct B to D skills get 0.2 and indirect c to d skills get 0.2 as well.
@@damienpatrickshane9056it's a very small improvement compared to the current difference, putting ALL the competitions of the Olympics together no one except Biles and Andrade scored above 14, everything was 12-13, bars/beams with falls were almost higher!
@@rejepe what do you think they can do to improve floor. I also think that it’s partially the fault of the gymnasts. A lot of them do not have routines that cover the artistic requirements. There has been a serious lack of creative choreography in my opinion.
@@damienpatrickshane9056 maybe mandating 2 or more spins on floor cause spins makes the routine more enjoyable to watch than tumbling passes without tempering with tumbling D's
They would greatly improve floor and make it less sexist if they got rid of most "artistic requirements" in my book. Hate how they trash world class gymnasts because they don’t dance elegantly enough. Could accept that though if they forced men to do the same. That would change the floor podiums in MAG completely. Imagine the uproar, the outrage … 🤣
I hope Shilese sticks it out four more years and stays healthy. Her bars are so valuable for USA.
She already said she was going for the next quad.
She's my favorite of the current US woman. She's so elegant. Also, big, plus she doesn't do wolf turns.
Bravo, Kaylia.
Good job.🌷
Why didn't you show Suni's bar 6.6 D routine?
What I led best in this video was the music! 🎵 💯
❤more videos please
does anyone know what happened to wei xiaoyuan? haven’t seen her since 2022 worlds;( she was such a wonderful bar worker!
Rewatching this just for the awesome song
So basically just skills in mixed L grip are downgraded
and double layout 1/1 dismount is upgraded
Failure
What is the technical difference between a Healey and a Ling? I simply can't see a difference at all
Is in the grip , you can see in the ling chinese gymnasts do a "hop" with one hand while rotating , i wish not only chinese gymnast did those elements they are my favorite
1. Healy:
A healy can actually be used more generically to describe any turn occurring one hand. For example, when men perform a Diamidov on parallel bars, they are completing a Healy. Thus, any of the one-armed pirouettes on uneven bars are all technically healys.
When a gymnast performs a Healy turn from reverse / undergrip and initiates the turn before reaching handstand, this is commonly referred to as a 'Lin' after Lin Li. This skill entered the COP following the 2004 Olympic Games, but is not currently named after anyone.
2. Ling:
While the Ling is often described as a one-arm pirouette, this is actually not how the skill was performed and credited to Ling Jie. Here is the original skill description of the Ling from when it entered the COP after the 1999 World Championships:
'Handstand on high bar - giant circle swing forward in L grip with stretched body to handstand with hop to regular grip on one arm during 1/2 turn to inside and continue with 1/2 turn outward to end in L grip in handstand phase.
If you look closely at the hands of any of the gymnasts that perform this element, you can see that this technique is still utilized today. In this video, pay particular attention at 3:54 and notice how she releases the bar with her left hand and then regrasps in regular grip. She then performs another 1/2 turn to return to L-grip, as opposed to rotating 360 degrees on a single hand.
try it at home and find out the difference
-With a Healy you start with reverse grip then pirouette on one arm 360 degrees to end in L grip.
-With a Ling you start with L grip, do a quick "hop" to change to reverse grip, then pirouette on one arm 360 degrees to end in L grip.
-The other one-armed pirouette is the Ono, where you start in L grip then pirouette on one arm 360 degrees to end in reverse grip (so it's basically the opposite of the Healy).
-Under the COP you cannot count both an Ono and a Ling; only one of them may count.
Crazy how kaylia can have an ever higher d score if she did a harder dismount
I think Nina's routine is a 6.4 in the new code. It's 0.6 CV not 0.5
What's diference bettwen Healy and Ling?
A Healy(Lin) starts off in reverse grip, does a pirouette and ends in L grip. A Ling starts in L grip, does a hop grip change to reverse to complete the pirouette and ends in L grip
Can you do floor
4:57 Komova 2 is only D?? it thought that was E!!
It is an E, but just mislabeled in the video. The count of E elements in the routine at 4 on the total D score calculation is correct.
You missed the russians
Do any of them currently have a bars set with 6.5 difficulty or higher
Não entendi o da Nina, onde ela perdeu 0.2 décimos?
Derwael's D score will be a 6.4 under the 2025-2028 COP. The calculation of the total D score at 1:17 only shows 0.5 of CV, but the routine actually has 0.6 of CV.
D + F both with flight x 1 (Downie + Pak salto), 0.2 CV
D with turn or flight + D or more with turn or flight x 4 (Pak salto + Maloney, Ezhova + Stalder Shaposhnikova, Stalder Shaposhnikova + Bhardwaj, and Toe-on Full + Full Twisting Double Tuck Dismount) - 0.4 CV
Total CV - 0.6
(Edited 8/24/24 to include CV detail)
@@gymdecoder No, 0.5 in CV is correct because any Shapo skills + Grip Change + Ezhova will no longer receive a bonus.
@@gaodrob7938- The routine has a total of 0.6 in CV as follows:
D + F both with flight x 1 (Downie + Pak salto), 0.2 CV
D with turn or flight + D or more with turn or flight x 4 (Pak salto + Maloney, Ezhova + Stalder Shaposhnikova, Stalder Shaposhnikova + Bhardwaj, and Toe-on Full + Full Twisting Double Tuck Dismount) - 0.4 CV
Total CV - 0.6