Exciting thing about composing music nowadays is that composers compose for video games and movies so all the great music in our culture has been ingrained into this global industry of games and movies. The opportunity is mental
You sir, are an absolute treasure. Not simply because of your fantastic content, but due to your humility, authenticity, and being such an active listener across all your shows. This video shows how much of a role-model you have been to aspiring and new composers, and I’d place money on that also being true for your wider audience listening in.
This was a treat. As a starting and recently graduated composer, I related with a lot that was said here (especially Rachel's struggle with "not knowing precisely what to do"). Huge thanks to Austin and to the four guests! I think it is extremely educative to hear what younger people have to say, because it is real and close to most people's experience. And yes, I would love to see the whole conversations! :)
Good content/quality trumps time Austin. The length doesnt matter when you have good conversations like these. So yes please. Im interested in full length or longer versions of these.
The other day I was literally thinking about all the media composer interviews out there and how there aren’t many or really any that interview composers really early in their career. Lo and behold Austin Wintory delivers the quality content we were all missing. Would love to hear the full length conversations - so helpful to me as a student still just beginning my journey!
Thank you so much for these fascinating insights into the world of music in video games. People often don't realise how influential it is to their enjoyment. Invaluable as always!
I have a nephew who just graduated from university as a jazz drummer and I sent this to him because he's always been a composer that also does audio and video mixing and editing. I've sent this video to him. The full video of each conversation would be invaluable to people like him who may be interested in starting out but would benefit tremendously from understanding pitfalls and different career journeys.
Thank you for facilitating such insightful conversations. This is exactly the real-life knowledge I've been seeking and wanting to ask from the composers
Austin, thank you so much for this insightful content! I have been making music since I was 10 years old and was infatuated with making midis for RPG Maker using tools like Anvil Studio, TuxGuitar, and Audacity. Now I am 31, and while life has taken me in numerous directions and career fields, I have finally decided that 2022 was the time for me to finally commit full-time to making music for media. This video could not have come at a better time for me and I thank you and all your guests sincerely for the range of insights and advice!
Big thanks to all the composers for great Insight! Austin, thanks for arranging all of it and giving your own great 2 cents on the topics as well. As you might have noticed, we'd like the full versions !
Great chat, it’s a really interesting dichotomy between giving up rights for potential long term benefits and making sure you get what you think you deserve and to keep harbouring an environment where composers aren’t undervalued. As long as new composers are aware of the rights they’re giving away! Sometimes I feel like while rights matter more than ever, the lack of knowledge about them is quite worrying. Especially in the world of streaming. Great insights as always.
Very much enjoyed hearing the thoughts of younger composers (the point about taking a break when necessary was such a nice thing to hear). Would love to check out the longer version whenever you and Dallas have the time to finish it!
There’s nothing cooler than the energy that comes with professionals at the start of a journey-thanks for doing these! Especially loved the breakthrough stories. Would def be fun seeing the unedited versions.
Another phenomenal video with four artists I have not heard of, but found myself googling and looking up as I watched/listened to your video, so I could myself discover and follow them. Watching your videos, and seeing different artists is always inspiring. Thank you!
I would definitely love to see the full version of the interviews :) it was so insightful to hear about those different pathways and perspectives. Thank you for sharing it :)
Hey Austin. What an amazing video! I truly appreciate you doing so much for the community of upcoming composers. You can't imagine the kind of confidence it instills in me knowing I too can make it after struggling. You're a great teacher, much love....
Austin you're my biggest inspiration man. I still have a lot more struggles to overcome but it's my dream to be able to shake hands with you and other amazing composers someday! Thanks for all the content you create.
Raheem brought up some great points about taking breaks when needed, and building your own little niche around one specific passion. It was great to hear all of these composers' insights, and I would love to listen to the unedited versions!
This was really nice! I like the fact that you sit down and talk with younger composers, just to show people different perspectives. It shows people like me how difficult yet beautiful the world of composing can be. I say it every time, but it must be said again: You are a gem, Austin. Thanks!
This was great. Thank you Austin. I would also love to hear the full length conversation. On a different note, I'd also love to hear something like this contextualized under a lense of people coming into this sideways. There is a bunch of amazing composer out there who didn't study music, who may have been butchers, bankers, or barkeepers for the last 10-20 years, and don't have much or any network to leverage in the music and media scene, but want to break into it. I keep hearing stories like this on ocassion and always love them. I like the idea of breaking the myth of having to know what you want to do when you are school, because lives, people, dreams and the world change. I think it may be equally inspiring to have a conversation like this one with people of that pool. Just an idea of course in case you feel like picking it up. Thanks for everything you do for this community.
Definitely a very worthy perspective also. I have a few friends that immediately come to mind (the lateral shift, not a direct path driven by a lifelong goal). Thanks for the suggestion!
It was great to hear these parts of your conversations with these composers! Thank you for this! I would absolutely love to hear the full conversations you had with them.
Really great video Austin! Great advice for all of us! I remember Esin from school, I don't think we were in classes together but I remember seeing her sometimes because we did the same major. I'm really glad she's doing so well!
On the topic of 'showing up' consistently: The tricky thing with that is you can't really 'aim' with that. If I wanted to work for a specific composer, like yourself, WHERE do I show up? You can only show up for the situations you actually encounter. And when you seeing someone show up consistently makes them a good reliable bet for a potential hire, it's not a stretch to see just how important it is to figure out how to be seen by you doing just that. In other words: If you want a bigger pool of reliable potential hires, you'd have to create plenty of opportunity for people to be seen by you 'showing up'.
Show up in the usual online Facebook groups, on Twitter, instagram, meetups. Be the volunteer when opportunities to help arise. Make yourself a part of the community even if there is no apparent immediate personal benefit. It goes without saying that if you want a career of decades with these people, you should find yourself in their company often. It's a lifestyle, too! Make sure you like living among musicians and composers! Composers are much quicker to reach for their friend in the community than an outside waiting to snag up gigs, so to speak! :)
@@DallasCrane Thank you for the reply! If you don't mind my asking, did you specifically set out to work for Austin, or is that just the opportunity that presented itself?
I reached out to Dallas when I was hiring for an assistant. I'd seen his presence online and he was doing exactly that: always showing up. Seemed to have talent, and when I realized he was so multi-disciplinary, it seemed like a slam dunk. I get solicited by hundreds of composers looking for mentorship / assistantships / apprenticeships, etc but in the end, the job will almost always go to someone who demonstrates their value
@@awintory Oh, I think I was going for the wrong definition of 'showing up'! It's subtle, but meaningfully different: You can show up when someone asks you to be somewhere and be counted on when in need (which is what I thought you meant), or you can be so omni-present that everywhere you look, this person always shows up there. (What I now think you meant) It makes a lot more sense that way anyway! Thank you for the reply, much appreciated!
Hey, Austin, do you have, like, a shortlist of go-to score publishers? You've already brought Chris Siddall to my attention (and I actually spoke with him about his, 🤞hopefully🤞, being able to publish my all-time favorite score), and I've just discovered Neumation cuz of what's sitting on your piano there. But I'd love to know if you have any other recommendations cuz I just have no clue where to look. Thanks!
Are you planning on having Nami Melumad on at any time and asking her about her time on Medal of Honor Above and Beyond and what it was like working with Michael Giacchino? it's so strange that MG decided to come back to Videogames and what's stranger is that he had someone else compose the score.
Nami was, I believe, an assistant of Michael's that has then gone on to many solo projects and also collaborative ones with MG. MEDAL OF HONOR was an example, as was AMERICAN PICKLE. Typically the way those work (though I'm not saying it's the case here, as I don't know the inner workings on those deals), is that someone like MG is offered a project, and they don't have time and/or aren't interested, but think it could be a great chance to promote someone they've been training/mentoring, etc. So the job is jointly offered.
I don't know if you've already seen this Austin, but there's a video of Jerry Goldsmith at Abbey Studios in the early 90's: ua-cam.com/video/NVtBUYdJGbU/v-deo.html You could also see his long time companions Arthur Morton and Ken Hall.
Thanks so much for the conversation! Loved hearing the answers the other three had on these topics, some great points made.
Thank YOU for being part of it!!!! Privileged to have you grace my channel :)
Rachel! Will you sign my microphone?
Turning 25 next month and constantly feel lost in this journey - thanks for this insight, all!
I would love to see the full unedited editions! What an amazing lineup of composers, and what fascinating conversations! I can’t wait for more!
Each chat was about 1+ so that'd be over 4 hours of stuff to sift through :)
Exciting thing about composing music nowadays is that composers compose for video games and movies so all the great music in our culture has been ingrained into this global industry of games and movies. The opportunity is mental
You sir, are an absolute treasure. Not simply because of your fantastic content, but due to your humility, authenticity, and being such an active listener across all your shows. This video shows how much of a role-model you have been to aspiring and new composers, and I’d place money on that also being true for your wider audience listening in.
That's a very meaningful thing to say. Truly, my deepest thanks for writing this
@@awintory You are more than welcome - have a great weekend.
This was a treat. As a starting and recently graduated composer, I related with a lot that was said here (especially Rachel's struggle with "not knowing precisely what to do"). Huge thanks to Austin and to the four guests! I think it is extremely educative to hear what younger people have to say, because it is real and close to most people's experience. And yes, I would love to see the whole conversations! :)
Good content/quality trumps time Austin. The length doesnt matter when you have good conversations like these. So yes please. Im interested in full length or longer versions of these.
The other day I was literally thinking about all the media composer interviews out there and how there aren’t many or really any that interview composers really early in their career. Lo and behold Austin Wintory delivers the quality content we were all missing. Would love to hear the full length conversations - so helpful to me as a student still just beginning my journey!
Thank you so much for these fascinating insights into the world of music in video games. People often don't realise how influential it is to their enjoyment. Invaluable as always!
I have a nephew who just graduated from university as a jazz drummer and I sent this to him because he's always been a composer that also does audio and video mixing and editing. I've sent this video to him. The full video of each conversation would be invaluable to people like him who may be interested in starting out but would benefit tremendously from understanding pitfalls and different career journeys.
Thank you for facilitating such insightful conversations. This is exactly the real-life knowledge I've been seeking and wanting to ask from the composers
Austin, thank you so much for this insightful content! I have been making music since I was 10 years old and was infatuated with making midis for RPG Maker using tools like Anvil Studio, TuxGuitar, and Audacity. Now I am 31, and while life has taken me in numerous directions and career fields, I have finally decided that 2022 was the time for me to finally commit full-time to making music for media. This video could not have come at a better time for me and I thank you and all your guests sincerely for the range of insights and advice!
So happy to read all this. Good luck!! Welcome to the pool, the water's warm!
Big thanks to all the composers for great Insight! Austin, thanks for arranging all of it and giving your own great 2 cents on the topics as well. As you might have noticed, we'd like the full versions !
I’m so behind on UA-cam content, but couldn’t wait for this one. Another fantastic video.
Great chat, it’s a really interesting dichotomy between giving up rights for potential long term benefits and making sure you get what you think you deserve and to keep harbouring an environment where composers aren’t undervalued.
As long as new composers are aware of the rights they’re giving away! Sometimes I feel like while rights matter more than ever, the lack of knowledge about them is quite worrying. Especially in the world of streaming.
Great insights as always.
Very much enjoyed hearing the thoughts of younger composers (the point about taking a break when necessary was such a nice thing to hear). Would love to check out the longer version whenever you and Dallas have the time to finish it!
JUST WHAT I NEEDED, Thank you Austin!
There’s nothing cooler than the energy that comes with professionals at the start of a journey-thanks for doing these! Especially loved the breakthrough stories. Would def be fun seeing the unedited versions.
I am from a total different industry (IT) , but I loved this interview, and been able to learn more about the industry of music. Thanks
Another phenomenal video with four artists I have not heard of, but found myself googling and looking up as I watched/listened to your video, so I could myself discover and follow them. Watching your videos, and seeing different artists is always inspiring. Thank you!
I would definitely love to see the full version of the interviews :) it was so insightful to hear about those different pathways and perspectives. Thank you for sharing it :)
Hey Austin. What an amazing video! I truly appreciate you doing so much for the community of upcoming composers. You can't imagine the kind of confidence it instills in me knowing I too can make it after struggling. You're a great teacher, much love....
This was a fantastic watch, thank you Austin and all the other composers who shared their thoughts and experiences here.
Austin you're my biggest inspiration man. I still have a lot more struggles to overcome but it's my dream to be able to shake hands with you and other amazing composers someday! Thanks for all the content you create.
This was a fantastic watch, Austin! Looking forward to the full length video to sate my musical gluttony ;)
Raheem brought up some great points about taking breaks when needed, and building your own little niche around one specific passion. It was great to hear all of these composers' insights, and I would love to listen to the unedited versions!
This was really nice! I like the fact that you sit down and talk with younger composers, just to show people different perspectives. It shows people like me how difficult yet beautiful the world of composing can be. I say it every time, but it must be said again: You are a gem, Austin. Thanks!
This was great. Thank you Austin.
I would also love to hear the full length conversation.
On a different note, I'd also love to hear something like this contextualized under a lense of people coming into this sideways. There is a bunch of amazing composer out there who didn't study music, who may have been butchers, bankers, or barkeepers for the last 10-20 years, and don't have much or any network to leverage in the music and media scene, but want to break into it. I keep hearing stories like this on ocassion and always love them. I like the idea of breaking the myth of having to know what you want to do when you are school, because lives, people, dreams and the world change. I think it may be equally inspiring to have a conversation like this one with people of that pool. Just an idea of course in case you feel like picking it up.
Thanks for everything you do for this community.
Definitely a very worthy perspective also. I have a few friends that immediately come to mind (the lateral shift, not a direct path driven by a lifelong goal). Thanks for the suggestion!
@@awintory Awesome ! Glad to hear you like the idea. Very much looking forward to it :)
It was great to hear these parts of your conversations with these composers! Thank you for this! I would absolutely love to hear the full conversations you had with them.
Hell yeah, I've been waiting for this one.
I've always been interested in how someone stumbles into this career.
Hope you're having a good weekend.
Really great video Austin! Great advice for all of us! I remember Esin from school, I don't think we were in classes together but I remember seeing her sometimes because we did the same major. I'm really glad she's doing so well!
Such a powerful video to come across at this stage of my life. This was absolutely a fantastic watch!
I am A new Subscriber. I am just getting started with my music.; this was needed.
Me: cries in old composer getting started
On the topic of 'showing up' consistently:
The tricky thing with that is you can't really 'aim' with that. If I wanted to work for a specific composer, like yourself, WHERE do I show up? You can only show up for the situations you actually encounter. And when you seeing someone show up consistently makes them a good reliable bet for a potential hire, it's not a stretch to see just how important it is to figure out how to be seen by you doing just that. In other words: If you want a bigger pool of reliable potential hires, you'd have to create plenty of opportunity for people to be seen by you 'showing up'.
Show up in the usual online Facebook groups, on Twitter, instagram, meetups. Be the volunteer when opportunities to help arise. Make yourself a part of the community even if there is no apparent immediate personal benefit. It goes without saying that if you want a career of decades with these people, you should find yourself in their company often. It's a lifestyle, too! Make sure you like living among musicians and composers! Composers are much quicker to reach for their friend in the community than an outside waiting to snag up gigs, so to speak! :)
@@DallasCrane Thank you for the reply! If you don't mind my asking, did you specifically set out to work for Austin, or is that just the opportunity that presented itself?
I reached out to Dallas when I was hiring for an assistant. I'd seen his presence online and he was doing exactly that: always showing up. Seemed to have talent, and when I realized he was so multi-disciplinary, it seemed like a slam dunk. I get solicited by hundreds of composers looking for mentorship / assistantships / apprenticeships, etc but in the end, the job will almost always go to someone who demonstrates their value
@@awintory Oh, I think I was going for the wrong definition of 'showing up'! It's subtle, but meaningfully different: You can show up when someone asks you to be somewhere and be counted on when in need (which is what I thought you meant), or you can be so omni-present that everywhere you look, this person always shows up there. (What I now think you meant)
It makes a lot more sense that way anyway!
Thank you for the reply, much appreciated!
Please, please put out this 1hr unedited ver of conversatin
Great insight!
Despite not being in the music industry this is fascinating insight with lots of parallels to others.
That's very much my hope! That it's reasonably universal information!
Hey, Austin, do you have, like, a shortlist of go-to score publishers?
You've already brought Chris Siddall to my attention (and I actually spoke with him about his, 🤞hopefully🤞, being able to publish my all-time favorite score), and I've just discovered Neumation cuz of what's sitting on your piano there. But I'd love to know if you have any other recommendations cuz I just have no clue where to look. Thanks!
Omni Music Publishing is the OG!
@@DallasCrane Holy shit! Back to the Future, The Matrix, How to Train Your Dragon, Star Trek, etc., etc. Thank you
Yep Dallas nailed it. Omni started a trend and now there are 3!
Are you planning on having Nami Melumad on at any time and asking her about her time on Medal of Honor Above and Beyond and what it was like working with Michael Giacchino? it's so strange that MG decided to come back to Videogames and what's stranger is that he had someone else compose the score.
Nami was, I believe, an assistant of Michael's that has then gone on to many solo projects and also collaborative ones with MG. MEDAL OF HONOR was an example, as was AMERICAN PICKLE. Typically the way those work (though I'm not saying it's the case here, as I don't know the inner workings on those deals), is that someone like MG is offered a project, and they don't have time and/or aren't interested, but think it could be a great chance to promote someone they've been training/mentoring, etc. So the job is jointly offered.
@@awintory Interesting, I love all these geeky composer facts so thanks for laying it on me.
The map looks like Burbank
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Greetings from Turkey o7
I don't know if you've already seen this Austin, but there's a video of Jerry Goldsmith at Abbey Studios in the early 90's:
ua-cam.com/video/NVtBUYdJGbU/v-deo.html
You could also see his long time companions Arthur Morton and Ken Hall.
I saw!! Kenny Hall was a very dear friend and seeing him in there made my night!
i think I'm a bit too early
As a wizard, precisely on time!