People just don't knw and they speak on things anyway. He has lost this weight over 10 months, he has done it in a healthy fashio. It's physical anatomy. A heavyweight fighter looses excess weight in a healthy fashion to drop down a weight class will be stronger and faster than the other fighters. His frame is still a heavyweight frame, he just has less excess weight. Everything he comes with will be from a heavyweight core.
He's gonna be a heavyweight the rest of his career , regardless if he fights cruiser or not. His body has acclamaited over the last 8 years to fighting and training consistantly at heavyweights. It's physical anatomy. A heavyweight fighter looses excess weight in a healthy fashion to drop down a weight class will be stronger and faster than the other fighters. His frame is still a heavyweight frame, he just has less excess weight. Everything he comes with will be from a heavyweight core.
@paul8000 like you can tell from videos he has small wrists, lol, like ya his frame is 160 pounder. lol did you ever noticed his body never looked right in Middle weight as he aged and grew out of the class, he looked skinnier and skinnier, because his frame and body continued to grow as he aged & thats why he' could not stay at middle weight even if he wanted too. & it also depends what type of fighter you are wether you will be faster or not or what attributes will shine more or less ect...
@paul8000 I'll get to that lol, ya I actually thought about that today and knew you were going to say that lol... He is a natural cruiser weight 190 - 200 lbs. but his body has acclaimated to training and fighting so heavy to the point where he does have a heavyweight frame. anyhow. He is a great fighter and like many of us in this world, demons sometimes get the best of us, plus he had some health issues. He's great fighter and If he says he's got somethin left, i'm trust him that he does.
I haven't seen enough of Lebedev to form an opinion, BUT I've learned NEVER to bet against Toney. It should be a classic puncher versus a defensive master mind.
@MrKilluminati248 basically though, if what you and a few others are saying is true that Toney is a natural middle weight, than what he has done and is doing is even more amazing.
@paul8000 He was a 200 lbs football player in High School, he lost weight to go down to middle weight and this is basic Human Anatomy, everybody grows into who they are and some people are lighter some are heavier. James Toney grew out of middle weight and Light Heavyweight. He is a natural 200 lbs man. and as far as everything else you said, you obviously are missing my points and you must not train yourself or you would get what I am trying to get across.
@MrKilluminati248 naturally with out much excersise. He is a 5'10 200 lbs person, or around there anyway.As he aged he could never have stayed at Middle weights or Light Heavyweight.even as a heavyweight he's always been far more muscle than fat, maybe 15 % body fat. He has had some thyroid problems which can effect weight. Not to mention the many demons he must face as we all do,He let it get out of control a few times, it's been a hard few years for Toney, but he's back healthy mind and body.
@AKAMUSICkeepit100 first you said he has the frame of a heavyweight,,, now you are saying he's a natural 200lb man. you are getting closer. Freddie roach once said that james toney was the greatest natural talent he ever worked with; he also said that james toneys problem is that he is LAZY. that's why he never looks in shape and why he's been fighting so long at heavyweight. And you still haven't named a fighter who has gone down from heavyweight and been stronger and faster!! :)
@AKAMUSICkeepit100 his frame is not still a heavyweight.. he started off as a middleweight, his best weight if he had stayed in shape his whole career would probably be light heavyweight now. if you look at his wrists and hands you can see he has a small frame. And heavyweights going down in weight will not always be stronger and faster, that's crazy. look what happened to chris byrd. Name me one heavyweight who dropped down in weight and was faster and stronger than his opponents
People just don't knw and they speak on things anyway. He has lost this weight over 10 months, he has done it in a healthy fashio. It's physical anatomy. A heavyweight fighter looses excess weight in a healthy fashion to drop down a weight class will be stronger and faster than the other fighters. His frame is still a heavyweight frame, he just has less excess weight. Everything he comes with will be from a heavyweight core.
He's gonna be a heavyweight the rest of his career , regardless if he fights cruiser or not. His body has acclamaited over the last 8 years to fighting and training consistantly at heavyweights. It's physical anatomy. A heavyweight fighter looses excess weight in a healthy fashion to drop down a weight class will be stronger and faster than the other fighters. His frame is still a heavyweight frame, he just has less excess weight. Everything he comes with will be from a heavyweight core.
@paul8000 like you can tell from videos he has small wrists, lol, like ya his frame is 160 pounder. lol did you ever noticed his body never looked right in Middle weight as he aged and grew out of the class, he looked skinnier and skinnier, because his frame and body continued to grow as he aged & thats why he' could not stay at middle weight even if he wanted too. & it also depends what type of fighter you are wether you will be faster or not or what attributes will shine more or less ect...
@HighTechVigilante I AGREE..Tony looks great!
@paul8000 I'll get to that lol, ya I actually thought about that today and knew you were going to say that lol... He is a natural cruiser weight 190 - 200 lbs. but his body has acclaimated to training and fighting so heavy to the point where he does have a heavyweight frame. anyhow. He is a great fighter and like many of us in this world, demons sometimes get the best of us, plus he had some health issues. He's great fighter and If he says he's got somethin left, i'm trust him that he does.
I haven't seen enough of Lebedev to form an opinion, BUT I've learned NEVER to bet against Toney. It should be a classic puncher versus a defensive master mind.
@MrKilluminati248 basically though, if what you and a few others are saying is true that Toney is a natural middle weight, than what he has done and is doing is even more amazing.
@paul8000 He was a 200 lbs football player in High School, he lost weight to go down to middle weight and this is basic Human Anatomy, everybody grows into who they are and some people are lighter some are heavier. James Toney grew out of middle weight and Light Heavyweight. He is a natural 200 lbs man. and as far as everything else you said, you obviously are missing my points and you must not train yourself or you would get what I am trying to get across.
To me he still looks verry heavy although muscular. He looks like 230.
@MrKilluminati248 naturally with out much excersise. He is a 5'10 200 lbs person, or around there anyway.As he aged he could never have stayed at Middle weights or Light Heavyweight.even as a heavyweight he's always been far more muscle than fat, maybe 15 % body fat. He has had some thyroid problems which can effect weight. Not to mention the many demons he must face as we all do,He let it get out of control a few times, it's been a hard few years for Toney, but he's back healthy mind and body.
@AKAMUSICkeepit100 He likes Peanut Butter Capt Crunch and Pecan Prealine Ice cream
@AKAMUSICkeepit100 first you said he has the frame of a heavyweight,,, now you are saying he's a natural 200lb man. you are getting closer. Freddie roach once said that james toney was the greatest natural talent he ever worked with; he also said that james toneys problem is that he is LAZY. that's why he never looks in shape and why he's been fighting so long at heavyweight. And you still haven't named a fighter who has gone down from heavyweight and been stronger and faster!! :)
@AKAMUSICkeepit100 his frame is not still a heavyweight.. he started off as a middleweight, his best weight if he had stayed in shape his whole career would probably be light heavyweight now. if you look at his wrists and hands you can see he has a small frame. And heavyweights going down in weight will not always be stronger and faster, that's crazy. look what happened to chris byrd. Name me one heavyweight who dropped down in weight and was faster and stronger than his opponents