You are a MasterClass. I've never commented before but I finally feel compelled to say that I recommend your channel often not only to writers and readers but to anyone who's feeling low and needs breath of fresh air because that's what your videos are. You approach your subjects and the camera/audience with such refreshing honesty, kindness, and humor- you never fail to lift my spirits. Thank you.
This is one of the kindest comments I've ever received, Leigha. I don't feel particularly worthy of it but I thank you wholeheartedly for your generosity of spirit and human kindness. I hope you have a wonderful week. Thank you. ❤️😀
Tristan, you just pinpointed what I'm loving about the book I'm currently reading. I didn't have the knowledge to explain it, and now that I do thanks to you, I feel like it makes me appreciate it even more. I also started thinking of all the books that I love that use this technique, and I see now this common point and will value it more! That's brilliant, thank you so much for this video...and all the others I'm bingeing 😄 can't wait for more master classes
This was really enlightening! I have always wondered why I could feel more connected to certain characters or books than to others.... and here is the answer. Sometimes when you read you feel more or less involved, and you just can't understand why. The truth is that the mastery of style makes a difference. Thank you so much for your brilliant lessons
I believe that "How Fiction Works" and "How Novels Work" both address and discuss Free Indirect Speech. I read them recently and enjoyed them very much.
Tristan - your lectures add so much depth to my enjoyment of books. Thank you! Could you talk sometime about unreliable narrators. I don’t understand how to identify them or why authors would use them.
I always heard about the importance of “showing without telling” as an advice for good writing especially for want to be writers. It seems to me that “free indirect speech” can be an effective technique to do so. Am I right? Thank you Tristan for your beautiful insights in the world of literature. I always see them with great interest even if English is not my first language.
Hi Tristan, I’ve watched so many of your videos. I keep trying to remember to give you a like, but I often forget. So thanks for the request, maybe request a like more often to remind people. Xxxx
I have been trying for years to understand how PG Wodehouse was able to give such validity to every character's point of view when they were so often disagreeing with each other. You have just given me great insight into his process and I can't thank you enough! His writing always has such empathy for the misunderstandings, aggravations, and absurdity of each character's actions. It's something I'm always on the lookout for in an author, because being able to feel both sides of an interaction is a magical thing. An example of Lord Emsworth's point of view: Lady Constance was smiling brightly, as women so often do when they are in the process of slipping something raw over on their nearest and dearest. And a bit further on, Lady Constance's feelings: Lady Constance raised her foot quickly, but instead of kicking her brother on the shin merely tapped the carpet with it. Blood will tell. (From _A Crime Wave at Bandings_)
What a great mini lecture! I've been thinking about your patreon for a while, but I'm still not all the way through your back catalogue. I think I'll do it anyway; I love your teaching. And I always "like" your videos, and I comment whenever I can, as I've been told that it helps the algorithm. 😊
A story that uses all the POV techniques you describe, and about 20 more that you don't mention, is "A Clean, Well-Lighted Place" by Ernest Hemingingway. Hemingway was such master of these techniques that he shows you the power of each one of them. And he does it all in 3 pages. Anyone who questions Hemingway's gifts need only analyze this story on this one issue. And you will see what a master he was.
@@tristanandtheclassics6538Tristan, I have to say that I preferred the unbearded version of you. I really don’t like beards… Mustaches, though, are great 😊
@wendychampness1901 It's a tough one, Wendy. It began as an idle experiment, and I had no intention to keep it. However, my wife has become fond of it and wishes it to stay. Perhaps she will ask me to shave it off soon. Maybe when she gets the urge to move all the furniture around in the house. 😂😀❤️
I love John Steinbeck's way of writing especially in "The Grape's of wreath". It is written like a play. He sets the scene and then gives us the dialogue. Nothing is written on my nose. The writer has confidence in me that I will understand. That is a part of the whole joy of reading a book. The perspective is the third person objective. It's of course not objective but appears to be. If you want to write a book you will get the advice, don't tell, make a scene of it. I think it's difficult to write free indirect speech really well. To me the message becomes too obvious. But I will think more closely about it in the next book. I have just recently read "To kill a Mockinbird" and the narrator is an eight year old girl but I heard an adult writer's voice. Is John Steinbeck's way of writing considered as not so advanced as your examples?
I would say that free indirect is more specific than that. It is a technique that could be used by a third person omniscient narrator. On the other hand you could have a third person limited narrator that only knows the thoughts of one character and also uses this technique for that character, so it is not limited to omniscient.
Question: Did the writers purposefully use indirect speech or was it intuitive? Was it their writing style without even realizing they were using that technique?
TRISTAN. I DONT KNOW WHAT HAS HAPPENED BUT I CANNOT GET INTO MY PATREON. WHEN I TRY IT JUST GIVES ME WAYS TO JOIN. CAN YOU OR LUCY HELP ME? SORRY FOR BEING A PAIN. WAITING FOR CATARACT OP AND USING A MAGNIFIER.
You are a MasterClass. I've never commented before but I finally feel compelled to say that I recommend your channel often not only to writers and readers but to anyone who's feeling low and needs breath of fresh air because that's what your videos are. You approach your subjects and the camera/audience with such refreshing honesty, kindness, and humor- you never fail to lift my spirits. Thank you.
This is one of the kindest comments I've ever received, Leigha. I don't feel particularly worthy of it but I thank you wholeheartedly for your generosity of spirit and human kindness. I hope you have a wonderful week. Thank you. ❤️😀
Tristan, you just pinpointed what I'm loving about the book I'm currently reading. I didn't have the knowledge to explain it, and now that I do thanks to you, I feel like it makes me appreciate it even more.
I also started thinking of all the books that I love that use this technique, and I see now this common point and will value it more!
That's brilliant, thank you so much for this video...and all the others I'm bingeing 😄 can't wait for more master classes
Literally watching this while I assemble my third bookshelf in 1 year. Guess how long I’ve been watching Tristan?? 😂🙌🏼✌🏻🙏🏻📚❤️
@@FranklyItsMe 😂😂😂
@@tristanandtheclassics6538 Hi Tristan do you think you a video on stories set on the Moore's? 💙
Every one of your videos is a Masterclass!
This was really enlightening! I have always wondered why I could feel more connected to certain characters or books than to others.... and here is the answer. Sometimes when you read you feel more or less involved, and you just can't understand why. The truth is that the mastery of style makes a difference. Thank you so much for your brilliant lessons
I believe that "How Fiction Works" and "How Novels Work" both address and discuss Free Indirect Speech. I read them recently and enjoyed them very much.
Martine found this to be very interesting and was not surprised to give it a thumbs up. She is a subscriber to this channel you see. 👍
Very clever 👍
The best so far at explaining this type of writing,very well explained thank you
Thank you.
This is a fantastic video and I look forward to more of them in this series. Thank you for your work.
Tristan - your lectures add so much depth to my enjoyment of books. Thank you! Could you talk sometime about unreliable narrators. I don’t understand how to identify them or why authors would use them.
Great video, Tristan! Also, if you ever write a novel, I’d be dying to read it!! Your writing is always amazing in the short examples you create.
Seu canal é incrível! Conheci o canal há poucos dias e estou adorando. Parabéns!
I always heard about the importance of “showing without telling” as an advice for good writing especially for want to be writers. It seems to me that “free indirect speech” can be an effective technique to do so. Am I right?
Thank you Tristan for your beautiful insights in the world of literature. I always see them with great interest even if English is not my first language.
Hello Tristan ! Thank you so much for your wonderful classes and your lively personality, it's a joy to hear from you 😊🌸🌿
Tristan, I've been known to write some. This is a technique to enhance both reading and writing skills. Thank you.
This is a wonderfully enlightening video. Tristan, you have taught me something of real value in reading literature. Thank you very much.
Thank you so much Tristan
Hi Tristan, I’ve watched so many of your videos. I keep trying to remember to give you a like, but I often forget. So thanks for the request, maybe request a like more often to remind people. Xxxx
Thank you Claire, I appreciate it. I'll try to remember to ask again. 😀❤️
As I am studying English these videos are very useful for the listening. Thank you very much.
Loved this. Thank you Tristan. Currently reading one of your recommendations, The Return of The Native. I will be looking out for this technique. ❤❤❤.
Ooo enjoy lingering in Egdon Heath. 😀❤️
I have been trying for years to understand how PG Wodehouse was able to give such validity to every character's point of view when they were so often disagreeing with each other. You have just given me great insight into his process and I can't thank you enough! His writing always has such empathy for the misunderstandings, aggravations, and absurdity of each character's actions. It's something I'm always on the lookout for in an author, because being able to feel both sides of an interaction is a magical thing.
An example of Lord Emsworth's point of view:
Lady Constance was smiling brightly, as women so often do when they are in the process of slipping something raw over on their nearest and dearest.
And a bit further on, Lady Constance's feelings:
Lady Constance raised her foot quickly, but instead of kicking her brother on the shin merely tapped the carpet with it. Blood will tell.
(From _A Crime Wave at Bandings_)
Wonderful! Thank you!
Thanks Tristan, very much appreciated, kudos from NZ.
You are welcome, Mary. Thanks so much for your support 🙏
So very interesting. Thank you 😊
What a great mini lecture! I've been thinking about your patreon for a while, but I'm still not all the way through your back catalogue. I think I'll do it anyway; I love your teaching. And I always "like" your videos, and I comment whenever I can, as I've been told that it helps the algorithm. 😊
Thank you! I found this very interesting!
Love these masterclasses, I'm learning so much.
Glad you like them!
Looking forward to this! Excited to learn more!!
@@kathleensmith hope you enjoy it 😀
You are extraordinary.
I love your videos.❤ Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
A story that uses all the POV techniques you describe, and about 20 more that you don't mention, is "A Clean, Well-Lighted Place" by Ernest Hemingingway. Hemingway was such master of these techniques that he shows you the power of each one of them. And he does it all in 3 pages. Anyone who questions Hemingway's gifts need only analyze this story on this one issue. And you will see what a master he was.
Great advice! Thanks so much. By the way, the bearded look suits you very well ❤
@samanthafox3124 thank you 😊
@@tristanandtheclassics6538Tristan, I have to say that I preferred the unbearded version of you. I really don’t like beards… Mustaches, though, are great 😊
@wendychampness1901 It's a tough one, Wendy. It began as an idle experiment, and I had no intention to keep it. However, my wife has become fond of it and wishes it to stay. Perhaps she will ask me to shave it off soon. Maybe when she gets the urge to move all the furniture around in the house. 😂😀❤️
@@tristanandtheclassics6538 The wife's opinion is way more important than internet strangers. We love your videos, however you look!
Thank you!
Excellent video sir
This is so helpful. Thank you, Tristan!
Great video, thank you
I've read Beverly Plain's books and I've found what you're describing alot..
0:27 - Or really, really, really close third person as Josh Cohen calls it.
A Day With the Netanyahus is a great laugh out loud. That's active voice or active enough.😂
First indirect speech
Bravo!
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I love John Steinbeck's way of writing especially in "The Grape's of wreath". It is written like a play. He sets the scene and then gives us the dialogue. Nothing is written on my nose. The writer has confidence in me that I will understand. That is a part of the whole joy of reading a book. The perspective is the third person objective. It's of course not objective but appears to be.
If you want to write a book you will get the advice, don't tell, make a scene of it.
I think it's difficult to write free indirect speech really well. To me the message becomes too obvious.
But I will think more closely about it in the next book.
I have just recently read "To kill a Mockinbird" and the narrator is an eight year old girl but I heard an adult writer's voice.
Is John Steinbeck's way of writing considered as not so advanced as your examples?
THANKS IF YOU CAN HELP.XX
Is it the same as third person omniscient?
I would say that free indirect is more specific than that. It is a technique that could be used by a third person omniscient narrator. On the other hand you could have a third person limited narrator that only knows the thoughts of one character and also uses this technique for that character, so it is not limited to omniscient.
I love your channel. Will you ever do an episode on Homer's work?
Question: Did the writers purposefully use indirect speech or was it intuitive? Was it their writing style without even realizing they were using that technique?
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Did I understand this correctly? When I do it, it’s “telling”. When the greats do it, it’s “free indirect speech”? 😂
TRISTAN. I DONT KNOW WHAT HAS HAPPENED BUT I CANNOT GET INTO MY PATREON. WHEN I TRY IT JUST GIVES ME WAYS TO JOIN. CAN YOU OR LUCY HELP ME? SORRY FOR BEING A PAIN. WAITING FOR CATARACT OP AND USING A MAGNIFIER.
Sarcasm is the lowest form of irony?! I'm offended!! 😊
It'd still hilarious, and I still love it, though 🤣