Why was Rocket League a success and not SSARPBC? -It was given away to 20m people for free. That will get your game noticed -60fps over 30fps in a skill based esports title. -Improved physics. -Competitive, skill-based map variants. -About six years worth of refinement and polish. If SSARPBC was as good as Rocket League and was given away for free to 20m people, word of mouth would have carried it in 2008 just as much as RL was carried last summer.
goldengamer_911 The name's fine. It's fun to say and everybody called it Battlecars, anyway (and vets and pros also call RL Battlecars too for that matter).
I think the biggest reason Rocket league is so successful compared to this is the name. "I just got a new game" "What game?" "Supersonic acrobatic rocket powered battle-cars. It's pretty fun" "oh. Cool." or.... "I just got a new game" "What game?" "Rocket League" "Whats that about?".....
***** No, there's no pirate ship unfortunately in Rocket League, but it may be at some point in the future. The map is in the Rocket Labs, just without the look. The RL devs already did Neo Tokyo, which was another Rocket Labs map and now has a very cool, unique look. Maybe they bring back the pirate ship. :)
I was just thinking about how cool it would be to see the pirate ship, or that horseshoe map at the beginning of the video... But then I remembered how much I hate Neo Tokyo because if the split level.
I think it's a lot of things. The better controls (the steering looks way too touchy in this one), the shorter name, eSports, the fact that RL is playable on two platforms instead of one, the fact that RL was marketed a lot more. All this stuff contributed to its popularity I think.
It's funny how wrong he was about this though. Clearly what has made rocket league thrive well past release is concentration on not overcomplicating competitive mode with many people demanding removal of any different map in competitive mode.
Hate Rocket League... same game as this one but NOBODY IS CARE about Battle Cars but EVERYBODY is hyping shitty rocket League !!! Its the same game same developers only released few years later and not as Battle Cars 2 !!!!! And everybody like oh look at this new game concept...and I say just f#$% y@# rocket league
So you're complaining that There's no Battle Cars 2, because the devs made Rocket League. ANd that Rocket league is the same game as Battle Cars. So it essentially... IS a sequel to Battle Cars. Just not in name. right.
rocket league focuses on soccer and customization. they could sell car DLCs forever and rake in the $. this supersonic game tried to be too gimmicky with the level design and the mechanics don't seem as solid.
"Rocket League focuses on soccer" SARBC has literally the same fun gameplay as Rocket League with a map that is the same as the Rocket League maps. If you want to shake it up you can try the others. The game's major improvement is customization and that doesn't sell a game. It's the fun gameplay.
I remember playing super sonic acrobatic rocket powered battle cars with all my friends after grade school. We would all go and play on one small tv with PS3 controllers. We still sometimes play rocket league nowadays and we're in high school!
If you want to go deeper into this rabbit hole, install Unreal Tournament 2004 and install the Carball mod that came out 2 years prior to SARPBC. Kind of a pain to install and it isn't bot supported, so it'll be difficult to demo without others joining in, but it's an interesting dive into your thought process and even adds a little contention to the mix.
I did play this because it was free on PS+ back then. That's why the whole popularity of Rocket League is so weird to me, I already played the game years ago and thought it was only okay.
I played this game way back when it was free for PS+ members on the PS3. Not many people had PS+ I guess, but I know I didn't pay for it. I didn't like it that much at the time, so never really got into it like I have with Rocket League.
Changing the title certainly helped. Giving it away for free on PS Plus opened it up to tons of people, so right there are marketing things that helped that game become a huge success. I also think highlighting the simple maps in Rocket League really let new players quickly grasp the "soccer with cars" concept better than the crazier maps in Battle Cars.
SARPBC was probably a great game, for people that started early and became very good at it. Not so much for people comming in late. Since there was not any matchmaking as far as I understand, people had to play with incredibly skilled players, which made it not so much fun for them. I think the reason as to why Rocket League is so popular now, is because there is a matchmaking which matches you up with equally sort of good players. Plus there are other factors, but from what I've seen, people have posted them in the comments already. This is just my opinion though.
There’s a game called Mad Tracks on the Xbox Live Marketplace. There’s a Rocket League section on it just like this! The online is pretty much dead but I do know a few people that could fill it up in a hurry.
I discovered SARPBC back in 2011 and played it quite a lot until 2014 when I discovered the Rocket League Alpha. Sadly, the Alpha ended in August 2014, so I went back to SARPBC from time to time, but couldn't wait for the final version of RL to be released.
Of course kids who didn't come from the PS3 wouldn't know about SSARPBC. This game was absolutely amazing, it was the perfect party game when you had friends over. I played this a lot (even got all the PS3 trophies) and I'd say Rocket League is just a polished and more simple version of this game.
You didn't even go into the best part about this game, the mini games are awesome, there are games where you can't go over the center line or games that are 1 v 3 and one where the wind is blowing the ball towards your goal all of which you must win and some by a certain margin ti unlock the next level. Also there are a few reasons why this game isn't very well known even though it was downloaded over 2 million times. First, it was a PS exclusive in the early days of the PS3. Second, the art style made it look more like a child's game. Third the focus of this game was very different, Rocket League was always intended to be a competitive E-sport, this was a single player game with multiplayer tacked on.
+Gio Duude UA-cam and twitch was a huge help as well. Social media as it is today was a new thing when this came out. YT didn't really get huge till like 2010-11. It was there, but it didn't quite replace TV.
I think what makes Rocket League a hit is the entire loot, trade, and rank system. Grinding games out to achieve awesome toppers, crates etc. Trading for even better loot, and playing people to get better and achieve higher rank.
I miss this game...I just miss it... (Its SARPBC btw) I used to play with someone named coolstar back in 2009...I also got yelled at like a MOFO for sucking lol but the people I was playing with were like 16 so to me that was a good skill level. Damn nostalgia...Good times, I remember playing burnout paradise too... I was 9...I spent so many hours on sarpbc XD
+Eliminater33E It's not SSARPBC. It's called SARPBC due to two conditions: (1) Supersonic (travelling faster than the speed of sound) is one word on its own (not Super Sonic). (2) One of Rocket League's achievements is called "SARPBC Forever" proving that SARPBC is indeed the right acronym. Sorry for my cockiness here, I just wanted to prove a point. I admire your nostalgia, this was the shit back then even though it was one of the least popular games out there. I tried to invite my friends to this game but their first impressions were "wacky" and "stupid". Now they are all playing Rocket League.
I believe it's the ESL that was created. Battle cars had small esports but it caught the eye with the polish and graphic revamp. Plus steam sales are great.
rocket league said their gonna add new maps like in the old game and not just a plain field and they will also add a game mode where the you play with a box instead of a ball
+Zer0 / www.gamespot.com/articles/rocket-league-will-add-crazy-different-maps-in-the/1100-6429586/ I got most of the info on their twitter forgot where I found the box thing tho
i'm gonna say it was PS+, at least for me.. i got it for free on ps4, told all of my friends,, and then we all had 300+ hours clocked in it. I'm about to re-buy it for PC. Happy to give this company money, they did a great job!
I might have to get this (original Rocket League) - PVZ: Garden Warfare just got me into multiplayer games, I really appreciate tight gameplay and great mechanics
Steam description of Rocket League, Word-For-Word: Soccer meets driving once again in the long-awaited, physics-based multiplayer-focused sequel to Supersonic Acrobatic Rocket-Powered Battle-Cars! Choose a variety of high-flying vehicles equipped with huge rocket boosters to score amazing aerial goals and pull-off incredible game-changing saves!
Tbh I think their name for the last gen iteration was a good call I remember when SSARPBC launched and the title is what grabbed my attention and I loved it. At the time I don't think I would have picked it up if it had such a generic title like rocket league back in the day. Only reason I got rocket league is because I knew of their past game, and the amount they expanded is staggering to say the least. Edit: One thing I resent about Rocket League is how floaty and slow the controls and physics feel in comparison to SSARPBC. Maybe it's because I put so much time into to the older version. Also to add when you bumped into players you fucking launched them. Made being an enforcer a viable role without constantly having to switch focus between knocking opposition and grabbing boost to make your hits worth a damn.
We played this game like 6 years ago. It was just as much fun as rocket league, but it wasn't just as polished and of course there was little to no marketing.
This is the original Rocket League. Rocket League is really Super Sonic Acrobatic Rocket Powered Battle Cars 2
THANK YOU:-!
lol the devs even say that in the games steam description.
It’s made by same people?
Gogo606 yes. Rocket League is the predecessor to this game
This is not rocket league, rocket league is this
I get it ;)
yep
They literally copied this game they copied their maps and stuff and no one knew about this game
they didnt copied this game, it's from the same creator durrrrrrrrrr
+Guilhermeweiagnsidn oh I didn't know that we'll nvm then
god please use ball cam
There is no ball cam in SARPBC.
+TheEliasade - Norsk Minecraft There is ball cam you can either hold down Triangle or tap it you can change it in the settings
Waaaat!? I have played the f*cking game in 6 years and i have never known that! LOL
+TheEliasade - Norsk Minecraft Go to profile settings you will see it there
coool
Why was Rocket League a success and not SSARPBC?
-It was given away to 20m people for free. That will get your game noticed
-60fps over 30fps in a skill based esports title.
-Improved physics.
-Competitive, skill-based map variants.
-About six years worth of refinement and polish.
If SSARPBC was as good as Rocket League and was given away for free to 20m people, word of mouth would have carried it in 2008 just as much as RL was carried last summer.
it also has a horrible name.
goldengamer_911 The name's fine. It's fun to say and everybody called it Battlecars, anyway (and vets and pros also call RL Battlecars too for that matter).
They just gave the game a second chance and another way of publishing. Steam is strong.
It was for free playstation plus for a long time. The biggest issue was it was only on PS3.,
JoJo Dodo Battlecars was free on PS+ or are you talking about RL?
I think the biggest reason Rocket league is so successful compared to this is the name.
"I just got a new game"
"What game?"
"Supersonic acrobatic rocket powered battle-cars. It's pretty fun"
"oh. Cool."
or....
"I just got a new game"
"What game?"
"Rocket League"
"Whats that about?".....
We, who played mainly just called in Battle Cars
Rocket league made this game
I wanna say cause it was a free game
I call it sarp be see
Or SARPBC
I really like that Pirate Ship map, hope they eventually put it in rocket league
The pirate ship map is part of the Rocket Labs. ^^
CurryKingWurst but its not the same :( it doesn't look like a pirate ship
*****
No, there's no pirate ship unfortunately in Rocket League, but it may be at some point in the future. The map is in the Rocket Labs, just without the look. The RL devs already did Neo Tokyo, which was another Rocket Labs map and now has a very cool, unique look. Maybe they bring back the pirate ship. :)
CurryKingWurst I hope so, its really cool looking
I was just thinking about how cool it would be to see the pirate ship, or that horseshoe map at the beginning of the video... But then I remembered how much I hate Neo Tokyo because if the split level.
I think it's a lot of things. The better controls (the steering looks way too touchy in this one), the shorter name, eSports, the fact that RL is playable on two platforms instead of one, the fact that RL was marketed a lot more. All this stuff contributed to its popularity I think.
Lol
The weird levels are back in rocket league as of today!!!!
Rocket Labs!
+Apevia21 jep :D
+Mihai Nicolae That's what it's for. Rocket Labs is the testing phase.
It's funny how wrong he was about this though. Clearly what has made rocket league thrive well past release is concentration on not overcomplicating competitive mode with many people demanding removal of any different map in competitive mode.
I wonder who's here in curiousity after the new Salty Beach trailer came out.
Me
ayy
Jeremy Boateng 🤦♂️ did you just call it salty beach🤦♂️ it’s salty shores dum dum
Lmao
@@NixonFan94 lol
There is no difference in the map that is in the rocket league lab section
Flipes those maps weren't a thing when this video was made
i know c:
Definitely though. I love that map too. It's so different being able to go through the goals to get to the other side.
Hate Rocket League... same game as this one but NOBODY IS CARE about Battle Cars but EVERYBODY is hyping shitty rocket League !!! Its the same game same developers only released few years later and not as Battle Cars 2 !!!!! And everybody like oh look at this new game concept...and I say just f#$% y@# rocket league
So you're complaining that There's no Battle Cars 2, because the devs made Rocket League. ANd that Rocket league is the same game as Battle Cars. So it essentially... IS a sequel to Battle Cars. Just not in name. right.
One of the few who played this game from day 1
I'm with you
+Bass Drop how can you tell?
Yup sure 7 years and still on it meet a lot of people even if community is smaller still good player
same bro this was my favorite this enhanced my skill and knowledge for rocket league
I played this on my PS3
now we have that first map in the rocket labs. wow.
Daniel Lyles ☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺😅☺☺
Man I hope they bring a map pack DLC with these maps for Rocket League.... Separate game matches for the maps though.
Yeah the maps in this game looks like its way more fun.
Zer0 / for sure. apparently on the 28th we're getting some preview of an major update :)
+nexeos could be free dlc.
oh yes, to bring that nostalgia playing them
+Michael Jenkins Coming February 2016 xD
Literally
Isn't two million downloads actually pretty successful? This game wasn't something everyone heard of but it was far from unknown.
Tyrant1x maybe it got that much because people went back to look at the game rocket league originated from.
BTW I could be wronv
rocket league focuses on soccer and customization.
they could sell car DLCs forever and rake in the $.
this supersonic game tried to be too gimmicky with the level
design and the mechanics don't seem as solid.
and?...i was explaining why the new one is more successful, it's pretty obvious.
they're adding a hockey mode! weeeeee
"Rocket League focuses on soccer" SARBC has literally the same fun gameplay as Rocket League with a map that is the same as the Rocket League maps. If you want to shake it up you can try the others. The game's major improvement is customization and that doesn't sell a game. It's the fun gameplay.
trust me brosephine. HOCKEY IS COMING, omg 2 months, seems like forever.
ryan phillips Less than 2 months ;)
I remember playing super sonic acrobatic rocket powered battle cars with all my friends after grade school. We would all go and play on one small tv with PS3 controllers. We still sometimes play rocket league nowadays and we're in high school!
Blur i did the same!
Blur what were you and your friends user names , maybe i reconice one of yours
Blur what were you and your friends user names , maybe i reconice one of yours
Blur like JHZER is now the best freestyler on RL but back in the days i played alot with him becouse sarpbc was soo small
Video starts at 2:10
Thank you.....
That comment acctually saved me wasting time listening to whatever bullshit he is saying....
love you
Amateur Dragon
If you want to go deeper into this rabbit hole, install Unreal Tournament 2004 and install the Carball mod that came out 2 years prior to SARPBC.
Kind of a pain to install and it isn't bot supported, so it'll be difficult to demo without others joining in, but it's an interesting dive into your thought process and even adds a little contention to the mix.
I used to play this long ago
I did play this because it was free on PS+ back then. That's why the whole popularity of Rocket League is so weird to me, I already played the game years ago and thought it was only okay.
Oh my god the nostalgia after so many years
on pc, when you launch rocket league, do this.
up up, down down, left right left right, B A, enter
enjoy :)
Meme Radio Why?
Oh that's sick! I heard about this easter egg but totally forgot.
Dekross The title screen says supersonic acrobatic rocket powered battle cars
ShinyClaws Search it on youtube. "Easter egg Rocket League".
Dekross Lol you wouldn't understand
I played this game way back when it was free for PS+ members on the PS3. Not many people had PS+ I guess, but I know I didn't pay for it. I didn't like it that much at the time, so never really got into it like I have with Rocket League.
I feel the same way
Changing the title certainly helped. Giving it away for free on PS Plus opened it up to tons of people, so right there are marketing things that helped that game become a huge success. I also think highlighting the simple maps in Rocket League really let new players quickly grasp the "soccer with cars" concept better than the crazier maps in Battle Cars.
this game is the definition of my best friend and my friendship. It's my childhood. I love it
I like that name!!
SARPBC was probably a great game, for people that started early and became very good at it. Not so much for people comming in late. Since there was not any matchmaking as far as I understand, people had to play with incredibly skilled players, which made it not so much fun for them. I think the reason as to why Rocket League is so popular now, is because there is a matchmaking which matches you up with equally sort of good players. Plus there are other factors, but from what I've seen, people have posted them in the comments already. This is just my opinion though.
Dude i remember when this was new for the ps3, and now I see why i loved it
There’s a game called Mad Tracks on the Xbox Live Marketplace. There’s a Rocket League section on it just like this! The online is pretty much dead but I do know a few people that could fill it up in a hurry.
I actually played this game. It was so fun back when I played it and I'm pretty pissed that nobody even acknowledges it's existence anymore
I discovered SARPBC back in 2011 and played it quite a lot until 2014 when I discovered the Rocket League Alpha. Sadly, the Alpha ended in August 2014, so I went back to SARPBC from time to time, but couldn't wait for the final version of RL to be released.
Of course kids who didn't come from the PS3 wouldn't know about SSARPBC. This game was absolutely amazing, it was the perfect party game when you had friends over. I played this a lot (even got all the PS3 trophies) and I'd say Rocket League is just a polished and more simple version of this game.
rocket league has basketball, nuff said
Why I watched this video 5% entertainment 95% to get it out of my reccomended
You didn't even go into the best part about this game, the mini games are awesome, there are games where you can't go over the center line or games that are 1 v 3 and one where the wind is blowing the ball towards your goal all of which you must win and some by a certain margin ti unlock the next level. Also there are a few reasons why this game isn't very well known even though it was downloaded over 2 million times. First, it was a PS exclusive in the early days of the PS3. Second, the art style made it look more like a child's game. Third the focus of this game was very different, Rocket League was always intended to be a competitive E-sport, this was a single player game with multiplayer tacked on.
I agree with you. I had this game since 2011, and loved it so much back then. It was fairly frustrating though, that Super got almost zero attention.
I think a big part of its success is being on PS Plus... Also Kinda Funny has been hyping this game long before it came out.
+Gio Duude UA-cam and twitch was a huge help as well. Social media as it is today was a new thing when this came out. YT didn't really get huge till like 2010-11. It was there, but it didn't quite replace TV.
"this game was played by no-one"? Besides almost every rocket league pro...
I think what makes Rocket League a hit is the entire loot, trade, and rank system. Grinding games out to achieve awesome toppers, crates etc. Trading for even better loot, and playing people to get better and achieve higher rank.
I FINALLY FOUND IT!! This was my childhood
I miss this game...I just miss it... (Its SARPBC btw)
I used to play with someone named coolstar back in 2009...I also got yelled at like a MOFO for sucking lol but the people I was playing with were like 16 so to me that was a good skill level.
Damn nostalgia...Good times, I remember playing burnout paradise too...
I was 9...I spent so many hours on sarpbc XD
+Eliminater33E It's not SSARPBC.
It's called SARPBC due to two conditions:
(1) Supersonic (travelling faster than the speed of sound) is one word on its own (not Super Sonic).
(2) One of Rocket League's achievements is called "SARPBC Forever" proving that SARPBC is indeed the right acronym.
Sorry for my cockiness here, I just wanted to prove a point. I admire your nostalgia, this was the shit back then even though it was one of the least popular games out there. I tried to invite my friends to this game but their first impressions were "wacky" and "stupid". Now they are all playing Rocket League.
CodeForVenom
I believe it's the ESL that was created. Battle cars had small esports but it caught the eye with the polish and graphic revamp. Plus steam sales are great.
rocket league said their gonna add new maps like in the old game and not just a plain field and they will also add a game mode where the you play with a box instead of a ball
+Eric Valdivia I hope so!! I am really looking forward to playing on those cool maps and stuff!!
+Eric Valdivia Where'd you read this?
+Zer0 / www.gamespot.com/articles/rocket-league-will-add-crazy-different-maps-in-the/1100-6429586/ I got most of the info on their twitter forgot where I found the box thing tho
Alright thanks man :D
If you listen to the theme song it makes the name so much awesomer
It's so catchy it never left my head after all those years
is there a way to activate ball cam?
press 🔺
actually in options u need to change whot triangle do
Wayne the Waffle triangle
it's so weird to see the old octane.
That map is already on Rocket League, on the Lab Maps Tab
Seeing this now, and him saying the arena is weird and such in the beginning only to notice this exact arena is in beta in Rocket League
Rocket League was the sequel of Supersonic Acrobatic Rocket-Powered Battle Cars
Is ball lock cam not available
it is
I love how he says "traditional rocket league" even though rocket league is a remastered version of this game
I love how when someone scores it says " scored." There's no enthusiasm
3:00 ohhh its utopia retro (one of the rocket labs maps)
Man, this game is the created by the same creators of rocket league (good video)
3:14 this map is in new rocket league now but retextured
Fun Fact: The first map he was playing on is a "Test" map on the Rocket Labs section
I loved this game
Espacially the maps they were great!
in a steam description for rocket league apparently rocket league is a sequal toSupersonic Acrobatic Rocket-Powered Battle-Cars
marketing was key to its success because this game has way more content
i own this game on ps3. i wondered why rocket league seemed similar when i realised it was by the same people.. this game should have been a success.
Just in case no one already knows, Rocket League is the sequel to this game. They were made by the same people.
I don't use ball cam too often. What are the benefits?
I played this back then, I was surprised when I seen the reboot rocket league and it was so popular when this game really wasn’t 😂
If this human being didn't talk so much I would've stayed in for way longer than I did FOCUS ON THE GAME
this arena exist in rocket league too
THATS where the idea for the new map in rocket league came from
Wow I remember playing this game back in like 2012
OML THEY HAVE THIS MAP ON ROCKET LABS my mind is blown
It is rocket league, same developers. I played this game for years long before Rocket league came out.
You know there is an option to put click to toggle ball cam on right?
The first map is in the rocket labs game mode on rocket league
i'm gonna say it was PS+, at least for me.. i got it for free on ps4, told all of my friends,, and then we all had 300+ hours clocked in it. I'm about to re-buy it for PC. Happy to give this company money, they did a great job!
Rocket League is Supersonic Acrobatic Rocket Powered Battle Cars on steroids with a better name.
I really like this map!
That game was fun as hell! I didn't play much online though because I'd always get dominated lol.
I might have to get this (original Rocket League) - PVZ: Garden Warfare just got me into multiplayer games, I really appreciate tight gameplay and great mechanics
The map he is playing now is in rocket league on rocket lags, I just realised that!
is there ball cam in this game? There is in rocket league but since this is the old version
Steam description of Rocket League, Word-For-Word:
Soccer meets driving once again in the long-awaited, physics-based multiplayer-focused sequel to Supersonic Acrobatic Rocket-Powered Battle-Cars! Choose a variety of high-flying vehicles equipped with huge rocket boosters to score amazing aerial goals and pull-off incredible game-changing saves!
Do up up down down left right left right b a start at the home screen of rocket league for a blast to the past
Tbh I think their name for the last gen iteration was a good call I remember when SSARPBC launched and the title is what grabbed my attention and I loved it. At the time I don't think I would have picked it up if it had such a generic title like rocket league back in the day. Only reason I got rocket league is because I knew of their past game, and the amount they expanded is staggering to say the least.
Edit:
One thing I resent about Rocket League is how floaty and slow the controls and physics feel in comparison to SSARPBC. Maybe it's because I put so much time into to the older version.
Also to add when you bumped into players you fucking launched them. Made being an enforcer a viable role without constantly having to switch focus between knocking opposition and grabbing boost to make your hits worth a damn.
First map is in Rocket Labs, correct?
We played this game like 6 years ago. It was just as much fun as rocket league, but it wasn't just as polished and of course there was little to no marketing.
First vid ive seen of u and youve earned a subscriber
is it made by the same dev... ah i now see the info, it is... ok... didnt knew that
The map that he plays on is one of the rocket labs maps
I played this game for 4 years
the circle map is now a map in rocket league
No one talks about that the creator of rocket league got the idea from this game and I heard that they where the same creator but im not sure
Holy crap now I get what those weird antenna balls are. The old balls from this game.
I really want that Pirate Ship map in RL.
The nostalgia 😭😭😭😭
Yo, Patrick. This game is the prequel to Rocket League. Seriously.
#Patrick how do u get new cars ive been tryig but in this game which u played it doesnt come. Plss help
That map is actually remade as a rocket labs map in rl
ITS AN AMAZING AND INGENIOUS NAME
Supersonic Acrobatic Rocket Powered Battle Cars is such a good game!!! :D
This game is 10years now
You were heading for the wrong goal and this is the first rocket league. And you can also jump boost
I played this game before rocket league was even released
I want those cool maps back :3