hard2hurt 3:09 I’m amberdextrous and like to fight southpaw because that’s what I’m comfortable with plus my left is stronger than my right but my jab is fast pls give me ur opinion on this comment.
Says the guy who doesn't even grapple! Wasting my time listening to clown sauce from a guy who's "way" doesn't even work for himself! Practical Solutions for practical situations.. I've heard a lot of silly crap on my DAILY journey but this guy "mr self contradiction" is a true Mitch! So you're only talking to people who "barely train" or "just started".. You have so many examples that defy this logic yet you stick to it like cheerleader who thinks she's on the debate team.. Chess club DUMMY.. And you're missing many pieces! So if you want to cry about people presenting common sense and logic... Maybe you should cut the click bait crap and stop making ignorant statements so confidently!
Well that's true but no average practitionner gets "really good" so i don't see the arm in adding tools to your arsenal. After all, beeing a jack of all trades master of none can make you a good mma practionner, so why try to be perfect in one area when : - a lot of people will be better in that area - you can gain an edge by learning something else
Yea aggree on that to a sertain point, as soon as one is able to develop a solid stance, cenetic chain movement and coordination, as soon that is done both sides should be emplimented equally. But thats just my humble oppinion.
Well he is saying that don't start there he addressed he is talking mainly to people that aren't great in boxing. Take jui-jitsu for a example our teacher shows us on rare occasions really top teir moves and we take 3 days learning this one move and doing our average trainings (our best classmate is orange belt) our teacher (a black belt) learned it in thirdy minutes at a convention the point is you need to get good at what you should be doing first then move onto advanced stuff
I am right handed and southpaw. It doesn't matter if your stronger hand is in the rear or in the front. It doesn't matter if you write with one hand or the other. What matters is how good you are at rotating your hips to the right or to the left. My hip movement feels more natural on one side therefore I am a southpaw.
I've attacked people all over the comments of this video but, you may have just converted me. That's why skateboarders all fight like that, you've really opened my eyes on this one. I owe ya
That’s exactly how I feel, I’ve trained southpaw on accident while growing up without noticing it wasn’t normal. But now my hip moves so easily with it. So much movement, I can strafe around really fast and throw my punches with speed and retract at the same speed
@@SicFromTheKush that makes so much sense because most skaters push with their right and lead with the left leg. I’m a lefty and am a southpaw but I did skate in my childhood
Yeah I always fight southpaw even though I wrote with my right hand naturally. I actually switch it up consistently depending where my opponent is in the ring if he's to my left south paw if hes on my right I fight orthodox. Just because you can't do it doesn't mean I can't.
I’m right handed, Been training orthodox for a while and recently started training in southpaw. The comfortability and power is increasing fast to the point that it’s making me question why it feels so good. Regardless I will keep training both sides, because I believe versatility is a vital key and I guess that only time will tell the ultimate stance for myself.
Lead dominant hand does feel better but dominant foot forward feels even better coming from a wrestler. Right left doesn’t matter. Need to be able to fight with both hands and not be s one handed fighter.
@@thatguyagain6781 shotout to switch hitters I was always otheodox until dabbling into kyokushin it taught using both stances. So I took that philosophy and started applying switch hitting techniques. I fight using both stances for boxing its more fluid. It's a bit harder in terms of proper foot placement but over time trial and error you learn. I see it as trading your lead jab for a more lucid and snappier cross.
I’m naturally a right handed southpaw when I would get into fights that would be my stance and would win my jabs are strong but I’ve noticed that my left isn’t as good not as powerful or accurate
I'd say he is right that it's not natural, but it can be trained in over time. I'm actually left dominant, but fight right handed. Just because that's how I was trained.
Fluent in both too I just never allowed my self to favour either, opens up alot more angles, certain tools work better from either or. Why limit yourself? Haha
Left-hand dominant boxer here (peek-a-boo guard). I was trained in southpaw stance by my trainers, approx. 6-7 months. I recently decided to go orthodox. What I noticed is that my jab was so much faster and stronger and my hooks felt sooo much heavier, like miles apart. Also I can protect my liver better, since it's now on my back foot (right side of the body). Switching stances to create more angles has now become much more easier. I guess what Mike's trying to say is something along the lines of "learn the basics first, then start experimenting". I agree with that. Training "the traditional way" really helped me develop my weak hand before deciding to switch stances. Fun fact! : Engage your-self in soccer/basketball and play with both feet/hands, as a side activity. Great tool for stamina + increasing your weak's foot/hand power. Developing ambidextry/ambipedality has really help my weaak hand's with power and my feet with mobility! Being doing it already for 2 months, and i've seen moderate to big improvements
@@ny-juanfrost6299 "A" fight? Possible. But for better results: testing a style in multiple fights, against multiple opponents. Then doing this with multiple styles for comparison. The guy in the video trying to tell _everyone_ that they aren't right handed south paws, and that they aren't ambidextrous.... He's just flat out wrong.
@@shanerooney7288 actually if you’re starting out in boxing as a beginner. He is right. You learn boxing the normal way and then when you start getting good, that’s when you develop your own style and start bending the rules but when you’re starting off, you start the proper boxing way otherwise you’re just gonna get decked thinking you can do all the shit that professionals do. There is a reason why they’re professionals dude haha
@@recordingsbeforethenukeswe9588 The guy in the video is WRONG. period. He is claiming "you're not ambidextrous. And your kid is definatly not ambidexterous." He is saying "100% guarantee whatever feels 'natural' to you is wrong" There is a "Normal" way to box. As in; the most common way. But just because it is the most common way doesn't mean a boxer is "bending the rules" for not boxing that way. THERE ARE NO RULES with regards to the stance you take. The comman way is not the only "proper boxing way". Because the other stances aren't improper. Is the Philley Shell considered a "wrong" way to box because it is less common? How about the Peekaboo guard? High guard vs Low guard, is one "wrong" and the other "right" ? Square stance vs Sideways stance? There is more than one way to "properly" box, and the dominant hand forward stance is on that list.
Morpher Left-handers make up only 10% of the population. So the chance of you fighting a true left-handed Southpaws are 10%. True left-handed Southpaws fight Orthodox fighters 90% of the time. Thus there is little strategic benefit for a left-hander to fight Orthodox.
As my boxing coach always told us. It doesn’t matter if you’re orthodox or south paw or a right handed south paw or a left handed orthodox. What really matters is if you can pull shit off.
Long Jawn it’s really not the crazy 😂. I did fencing for like a month before boxing and it’s hard not to automatically go southpaw for me when i’m boxing
Same here big fencer in high school Moved on to MMA in the military but never got rid of the south but I’ve learned to switch back-and-forth but I still love my southpaw stats my footwork is stronger
I had the same experience, but in reverse; after being trained as an orthodox-side striker for ten years, I found fencing much easier with my left side forward. The hand is a bit less dextrous, but the feet are so much better at moving from that side.
U literally have to do what feels right when comes to stance and shit for me since I’m also a right handed southpaw all I had to do was train myself to use my left and I’m pretty proud of the progress I made with it not perfect but that’s the goal don’t even know if this homie qualified to talk about boxing/striking
@@strikeforcek9149 Right handed, southpaw wrestler here. Look for the guillotine, or turn into a God level sprawler. Classic High School style cow catchers work too, if you're a bigger dude. Get out there and train :)
I can very well relate to this too. Being naturally left handed (slicing cake and tightening bolts and such), but learned writing and playing guitar right handed, because of this a little more strength right handed side, but still a lot faster on left handed side. Up till now still figuring out what works out best, mostly othodox but switching at moments just to confuse. I do train on this specifically. Does this make me a left-handed orthodox?
I became both southpaw and orthodox thanks to karate. You're right the liver is exposed. But you can step in easier in certain cases. Trad karate makes you do both. Finding the positives in forcing both stances from the start.
Bro you acting like southpaw is a whole different stance then the orthodox stance, Southpaw is a mirror version of the orthodox. If you make a mistake as a orthodox, your liver would get popped too from a South paw. Iq'ued
I am a right handed and box southpaw mostly , it’s actually pretty common( Crawford, loma, Erickson lubin, Poirer ) . Also common for left handed orthodox fighters(cotto, de la Hoya, gsp.)
it feels natural to me my jab is way faster and stronger as well as my reflexes but he’s right i have no combinations and feel so restricted in that way since i can only throw a jab basically
In my case is super rare, im still trying to find which stand should i use but i have these things - im right handed (writting) but left footed - my power leg is the left leg but in presition my right leg is better -my left hand has more power but in presition my right hand is better -always i were having more durability with my left hand than my right hand (for example in the gym i can do more repetition on bicep curl with my left hand than my right hand) -for some reason i feel heavier my left foot than the right foot So, should i keep using southpaw stance or what?
I'm right handed and i fight southpaw. I wouldn't consider myself to be 'a southpaw' as such, but having done jeet kune do for a while I was forced to train my weaker (left) hand as my power punch/cross. It's to help with versatility in all situations I guess. I'm equally as comfortable fighting orthodox or southpaw but due to repetition I automatically go southpaw. Cool video, enjoyed this.
@Jamie B I knew you were from how u explained in the comment even though you were speaking about the physical aspect I can see from your mental psyche or breakdown that you a lefty and we got to hold it down for the small percentage of us in the world blessings and good health
Im southpaw, Right handed and left footed. I actually like my strong hand forward so when I slip I can come back with a fast hard jab and follow it up with whatever the left leg brings
No way I've actually found a fellow left foot right hand !! I was forced as a kid to use ortho stance in boxing due to me being right hand dominant. It now feels natural to me after years at it obvcourse but always wonder what if 😂
I'm right handed but I've always felt better Southpaw, and I spent years training HEMA with a heavy shield in myleft hand so my left arm is actually noticeable stronger than my right. Do what suits you. I'm not saying this guys wrong, just he ain't always right.
@@amir-bz2he for real I've never even heard of this guy and the dislike count is hidden. I'm sure there are response videos to this guy. There always is.
As someone who boxed for almost 6 years, I'm right handed but fought southpaw, so the concept of what feels natural is wrong is wrong. If you're fighting yourself you never get to fight your opponent.
Loma said in an interview he has been southpaw since starting as a child so you’re wrong he didn’t start doing it when he was great also no to mention Marvin hagler, Usyk ,de la Hoya mike Tyson, Miguel cotto, Tyson fury and many more fighter who put there stronger hand forward, not only this but on many occasions I have been told the jab is the most important punch so why would I not want my better hand doing it? also your lead hand lands way more because it’s the faster less seen punch. Not to mention some people find it easier to move of there strong leg (lead leg dominance) and many believe movement to be more important than power and lastly your dominant eye can play a huge role in which stance is better for you as it effects how you see punches coming which is crucial for defence I understand your points but think it would be interesting to see your counter arguments to mine thanks.
I am a true southpaw, I write with my left hand, I'm blind in my left eye, also a wrestling stance would have you stand with your left leg back with few exceptions, maybe that's why some guys want to stand southpaw is because the nature to wrestle. I like your view on fighting though, you have some cool points.
Thank you the other thing I forgot to say is some people like Terrance Crawford has mentioned just prefer the feeling of balance it gives them as it makes your weaker hand more powerful by moving it to the back and it makes your stronger hand faster by moving it closer.
I swear, i have been doing most things righties do with right with my left right from when i was born, and that translated into boxing, and ppl here bickering abojt Oscar ad Tyson being left handed orthodox is funny
I'm a left handed orthodox. Reason being I've played basketball for years before I got into Mauy Thai, so my left feet being the pivot foot, feels comfortable at the front.
Im a left handed orthodox kinda. Lmao I'm left handed but where I grew up, being left handed was a bad thing so I was made to do things right handed. I write extremely slow as a result but when I started kickboxing, the people at the gym determined that I'm for sure left handed because of this test they do on new students where they just beat them and I always tried to block shit with my left hand
Marvin Hagler used his strong hand first, hence why he was so powerful with the jab. Can't agree with this when many fighters were successful using their dominant hand first.
Definitely a right handed southpaw here. No doubt about it. I skateboard goofy, box southpaw, grapple/clinch/defend takedowns with right hand forward, and write with my right hand.
I'm the exact same with J boarding, skate boarding, I even hold my knife and fork the wrong way, I'm right handed but even used to play cricket south paw. So I have no clue what this guys trying to say
exactly same here, I switched to southpaw after a shoulder injury and it became natural to me, I hands down do everything as a southpaw either way though, skateboarding/downhill long boarding I'm goofy, wrestle right foot forward same for judo stance... it just works for me, and I have several state championships and a national championship to vouch for the effectiveness of my style.
@@chocolatepudding6146 In my opinion, if you do things such as skateboard goofy id recommend learning south paw and having the ability to fight southpaw and orthodox, works for me. Most people also wont see it coming if you start the fight doing orthodox and midway switching to southpaw. It has its benefits and negatives tho
Fighting is about being open minded and learning new things, testing boundaries, finding new ways to move around. Each time the fight game evolves its because a new guy trains a different way & we learn in the art.
This video is about beginners who refuse to attempt orthodox stance for a significant amount of time because of their “natural inclination.” Not just closed minded, but intentionally ignorant as well. You are making his point for him.
“Your not Lomachenko” Bruh this man makes sense just a little if it feels natural then keep that stance and work hard to build up that left hand my right handed southpaw boxers
I started standing Southpaw cause it fucked with the right handed people in my taekwondo classes. They'd think my dominant hand was weak and then boom- chest check with the lead fist.
well loma started from noob to pro too so when he was noob he is southpaw right handed too right? and his human too and im human to and youre human too so we can all do everything that loma can do
2:23 is when I turned this video off That line was ment to induce insecurities and disconfodence The absolute worst thing you can do in life is limit yourself because weather you believe it or not you will shatter your own expectations Look up red bull art of motion and you will understand friend And that's not just boxing that's life in general
The best way to ruin a potential boxer or martial artist is to force them to fight orthodox, and not encouraging him to learn technique from both stances since the beginning
Tolin Peterson dumb shit is offensive rather it applies or not lmao. All good trainers talk about comfortable. Your suppose to be comfortable when you fight. Plenty of fighters are right hand southpaws. Oscar, Loma, marquez
This is just a way for closed minded people to dismiss someone who’s different and try and make you feel stupid. Same argument that feminists use when they attack a whole gender and then u argue back
If you are a southpaw that means that your right foot is in front and your left foot is in the back just move to your Left away from his lead and your lead foot outside of their lead foot and get the foot position and you can keep the angle
"Blaa blaa blaa.. You're wrong and I have no reasons to tell you why!" Lol! This video on something so old and basic has been needed for such a surprisingly long time!
@@snowconeman512 Even though they gave a ton of reasons as to why strong side forward is better and named a ton of fighters that fight like that. You done lying now?
Why create controversy when it's not necessary? In some sports, including tennis, there are exceptional athletes who compete using their non-dominant hand. One might speculate that the individual could perform better using their dominant hand, but it is theory as you cannot predict if their performance will increase for sure. It's possible that the athlete simply swings the racket better with their non-dominant hand (just for swinging rackets). There is no guarantee that they made the wrong choice. Engaging in a debate about a stance seems unwarranted. The term "southpaw" in sports typically refers to an athlete's stance, rather than their innate handedness. It seems to me that you found a synonym of "Southpaw stance", which is "Southpaw", and took advantage of it to then define "Southpaw" as "natural left-handedness" instead of an athletic stance. In this way, you can start controversy by telling everyone that you know what's best for them, because according to you, in order to be an outlier, you need to be officially ranked. So anyone not officially ranked is deemed by you to be a "false" outlier. So, when someone writes with their right hand, but plays badminton with their left, you will be there to tell them that you know better than them, because if they are not world top ranked, they can't be outliers. However, it's possible that person will never be top ranked with either hand, but is indeed better at badminton/boxing with the opposite stance/hand. Just because they aren't top ranked doesn't mean you know the "truth" of their biology. In fact, even science has been constantly proving itself wrong regarding biology, showing that we still have lots to learn and discover. Many facts about biology in the past keeps being proven wrong. There is no way you actually know that the person isn't an outlier.
I am a right handed person. I think i have much better output of fighting power in southpaw stance. Throwing mostly left cross punches. It also balances you very well if you use mainly your weaker hand.
Bruce Lee's recommended strong side forward stance cannot be ignored for street fighting. Oscar De La Hoya, Gerry Cooney, Henry Cooper, Marvin Hagler, Ray Mancini, Lomachenko, all made the style work for them. In Joe Frazier's book he turns around left-handed fighters and makes them orthy for the hard jab and lead hook. The rear hand comes along with work. Just playing devil's advocate lol.
@@platinumcod1378 Well all I can tell you is from my own experience as a lefty fighting orthy for awhile once you get muscle memory in one stance its tough to switch to another. Try both and see what you like best. The left hook from a converted southpaw is a very hard punch, like swinging a baseball bat, all your being goes into it. From personal experience I got killed fighting southpaw, got cracked with right crosses down the middle. Your jabs meet in mid air and there's a lot of pawing. As an orthodox fighter I was a lot better. The two styles are entirely different.
Its odd too because this is a very blanketed video Im ambidextrous because I trained dance for 13 years while im technically right handed. Sensei is left handed, so when I spar with martial arts I switch but if Im doing only boxing I box southpaw, but can switch. It depends on training in boxing as well as previous training in other sports. Sometimes people enter a class and are not a blank slate.
As someone that has had 4 pro fights. The southpaw stance is a great way to start the fight if you know your opponent is technical. it's nice to have the surprise factor when you switch to orthodox.
@@wnbagotnext7251 your probably right but in MMA and kickboxing it's a little harder for guys to adjust especially when they thought they had u figured out
@@thechosenwon4089 exactly, you factor in the calf kicks high kicks knees. switching in MMA is pretty useful. but as for boxing a true elite boxer would adjust accordingly no problem. 2 different worlds both awesome tho💪
Learning how to jab with my right hand greatly improved my left-handed jab, because it helped me understand the kinetic chain and body mechanics of a jab
The body mechanics behind a jab can be explained to anyone in minutes, and understand the punch after hours of high rep movements - aka heavy bag / shadow boxing with feedback. It’s literally a linear path. How difficult to understand (key here: understand not master) could you possibly find it?
I'm southpaw not because of my hands but because of my legs. Having my right leg forward is much more comfortable I tend to fall over my self if pressured when fighting orthodox. But ig that means I should practice more orthodox
Hey right handed southpaw here and can fight orthodox - and I agree with you entirely. I actually learned Orthodox first and once I got good with my natural fighting style and defence I started to work on my southpaw then switched as my primary stance due to it becoming more effective for me. Right handed southpaw is hard. Very very hard.. Right handed southpaws don't do 1-2 combos, they tend to do 1-2-1 combos (power jab, cross, power jab) and tend to fight with a leading hook which is very hard to catch a skilled opponent with. You need to be careful against infighters as your left cross can be very weak and you won't generate enough power in your jab to really push them back. It's very hard to counter if you are a right handed southpaw, to me it's a very offensive stance - You can apply pressure to the opponents lead hand but if you start throwing combos that are easy to read and get caught on the counter especially against another southpaw I find. You need to apply constant pressure and it can be tiring but I've been told it's very difficult to defend against if done correctly.
As a right handed south paw myself defense is key to stopping those counters and a more squared up stance helps with the weak power from the lead right hand turning a jab into more of a straight
As a lefty I can confirm that we pick up more dexterity in our right hand making adjustments to a right-handed world, but most of us aren't ambidextrous, And yes I can swap back and forth between orthodox and southpaw but that from practice and being nice to confused sparring partners
There is such a thing as right handed southpaw (e.g Hagler and Lomachenko, like he said), and there is such a thing as left handed orthodox fighters (e.g. Cotto and Delahoya). At times people develop an affinity for a particular type of punch, and your stance decides how quickly and how well you can throw that punch. For example, many people like throwing a straight, so it makes sense to take the stance where your strong hand is the hand furthest away, allowing them to generate power. Others might build an affinity to throwing hooks and jabs, and don't really feel as comfortable throwing straights, so they might choose to have their stronger more accurate hand closer to their opponent. It is not common, but to say it isn't a thing is simply not true. Those fighters, because of the way they fight, make being a right handed southpaw, or a left handed orthodox fighter, an advantage for themselves.
I started by doing Tae Kwon Do, and in that we were taught how to do every single technique with both feet and both hands. I chose to use my right hand because my left cross is almost as strong as my right, but my right jab is better, so I choose to train southpaw
Same! I'd much rather train my left cross up to par and capitalize on mt already developed right jab then have to star over with both in the standard stance. I understand training both sides but southpaw feels right after years of tkd
You should be just as good with each stance but at the same time naturally you have more power in your strong side arm. . . A jab with your stong arm isn't as effective as a straight with your strong arm
"you are starting you are supposed to suck do not be afraid of sucking!" "It's not he is doing it so it must be good it's that he is good so he is allowed to do it" So many things on this videos can be applied to so many things thank you.
There are no rules. It's a man made rule that a lefty should be a southpaw. What a ridiculous rule. Do what works for you. To some people like me being a right handed Southpaw works better.
@@angelolacap9681 It is a stupid ass rule Lomachenko and Usyk are both right handed southpaws. Since a great jab is possibly the most important thing in boxing they trained as southpaws to use their strong hand as the jab
thebeyegee the point of the video is newbies learn to fight with your dominant hand back then once you’ve gotten that down really well then you can switch it up and my guy your not loma
@@razalfraz6618 You're an idiot, you dont have to be Loma to be a right handed southpaw. AND SOMETHING YOU DIDN'T KNOW WAS MIKE TYSON WAS A LEFT HANDED ORTHODOX FIGHTER Here's a few examples of right handed Southpaws: Prince Naseem Hamed Chad Dawson Victor Ortiz Guillermo Rigondeaux Marvin Hagler Vasyl Lomachenko Hector Camacho Raushee Warren Winky Wright Michael Moorer Sergio Martinez Juan Urango Antonio DeMarco Tony Thompson Joe Calzaghe Juan Manuel Lopez Mosley, Dela Hoya and Crawford are orthodox but can stance switch and not to mention. All superb fighters, so long story short, shut your f-ing mouth because you don't know a single thing about boxing you ignorant casual. Stick to watching the karate kid
@@razalfraz6618 what you don't understand is being left handed or right handed is a matter of natural instincts right? Being an orthodox or a southpaw is also a matter of natural instinct. People are infinitely better with their natral instincts.
I trained orthodox for years until I trained with a JKD group and they suggested I switch. Was awkward at first, putting my power in front, but it improved my sparring so much. Now, I can fight in either stance and adapt perfectly, but I always start southpaw.
I come from a JKD, eskrima, and silat background. For the most part we trained southpaw first because A.) our fine motor skills are more developed in our right hand which lends itself well to trapping, parrying and other movements that require more finesse B.) it's the hand that's going to be holding the melee weapon, and C.) to utilize footwork against orthodox fighters. We treated the left hand as the shield and General purpose slugging weapon when finesse wasn't called for.
I have a question, lmao when I first started, i was a orthodox, but I wanted to get comfortable with southpaw and now orthodox feels awkward for me, I could switch but I feel like my jab is better at southpaw. And I have been trying to fix this for a year, lol how do you fix this?
Just to let u guys know being a right handed southpaw isn't wrong Southpaw have a advantage over orthodox fighters and u might be a Cross dominant or mixed handed person ur more comfortable with one hand in different types of works.
I’m right handed and “naturally” fight left handed forward as it makes much more sense to have power coming from farther away, however, fighting southpaw has proven to be much more effective for me. So idk about this chief.
hard2hurt both friendly sparring and not so friendly fighting; But to be fair I switch my stance very often while fighting based off of situational positioning and my opponent’s stance.
@@hard2hurt Do you have any experience with mixed handed fighters? I write left, throw right, bat left, kick right, shoot hoops right. I have equal power in both punching hands but my right jab feels better. However I notice my defense is not as good when I box southpaw.
The best way to ruin a potential boxer or martial artist is to force them to fight orthodox, and not encouraging him to learn technique from both stances since the beginning
Right handed southpaw here, due to a boxer's break on my right hand and a bad fracture on right foot (it also helps I was formerly ambidextrous as child). But I was initially trained left hand forward.
I'm predominantly right handed. I use my RH for everything but I CAN use my LH for normal everyday things like writing. I choose not to use my left as my dominant. But when I fight I instinctively go to my LH in rear and RH in front. Fighting orthodox just feels SO wrong.
I’m right handed but my left is much stronger. I trained and fought orthodox for a white collar boxing event. When I continued later training I made the switch to southpaw and regret nothing. It Just feels right and I’m able to move and fight more naturally.
Based on your description, you're not right-handed. You are actually cross-dominant/mixed-handed. This refers to a person who has different hand preference for different tasks. For example you write and do everything accurately with your right hand, but your left is stronger so you prefer using your left for physical tasks like throwing and punching.
I'm left handed orthodox. I write and serve in tennis with my left. I swing in tennis, golf, baseball and cricket, and play table tennis with my right. I stand orthodox when i box.
I am left handed orthodox. so was Mike Tyson... I think it comes down more to your feet and stance than your actual striking. I am left handed, but if you push me, my right leg goes back first. That is how to determine your stance.
FINALLY! Someone addresses what is natural to fighting. I do wonder, though, Mike- what about eye dominance? Can it be an issue? Anyway, hope you and yours are well.
I’m a southpaw, and right handed. Trust me i was born like this. I can’t change it. For me, it so hard for to change my stance, or even use lift hand. All the power is in my right hand
Not a competitive athlete by any means but I have been training in the self defense realm for awhile, back when I was in Krav I had my trainer "force" me so to speak to lead with my dominate hand even though every instinct I had told me to keep my left hand lead. It's good to know my spidey senses weren't incorrect in this. Thanks for all the great content here at Hard2Hurt it's much appreciated especially when I am having talks with my less experienced friends and they sound like you when you're mimicking the key board cowboys.
@@hard2hurt Oh gee, you totally got me on that one! It completely annihilates the fact that you've contradicted yourself in a few minutes gap while claiming to be talking about fighting in a realistic a serious way.
Also, I'm well versed in martial arts. I don't fight or spar often enough. I am mostly interested in the knowledge of it all than the hurting aspect. But I always just like watching a lot of channels on martial arts. It is always good to keep watching what everyone else is doing. I find your opinions mostly closed until you meet someone who shows you differently. You also tend to click bait your names. Your opinions are usually not as harsh as your titles. Lol
So I am a fraternal Twin. Not identical. Wrestling is absolutely a dominance thing! We are 41 years old and still “wrestle”! How ever crazy that sounds, we typically get along 99% of the time and we “wrestle” with our words now at 41 years old! .99% of the time! Both of us are right handed “naturally”! I am built like a train he is built like tractor trailer. Anyway. When we were 15 years old we were “screwing” around during half time of a soccer game where “we” me & me twin were refereeing a under-10 soccer game! He was maybe 30 feet away from me and he “rocketed” a ball ⚽️ at me (kicked). I was not paying attention however I caught a glimpse and “blocked” the ball from hitting me in the face with my “right” hand 🤚! It shattered me Wrist! Long story short! I told “we” Mom and she looked at it hours later after we got home from finishing our afternoon of reffing soccer games! She said suck it up butter cup it is just a sprain! I said okay we Mom! However I think it is broken & she(me broken wrist) hurts! Long story fast forward 9 months we were playing one on one basket ball. And I literally did nothing other than take a shot with my right broken wrist after 9 months pain. I felt a snap crack pop & twist! I said to we Mom hey you re-member when me twin broke me wrist. She (we mom) said okay let’s go to the Doctor not the hospital! We went to a Dr “Wish”! “We Mom felt 😢 when me Doctor Wish said you have had a broken shattered wrist for along time and I am gonna need to re break reset pin that bitch back together! Well you can imagine being a twin with only a left arm for fighting, I have learned to be saw paw not cause it feels natural cause Fast forward 8more years when I was 24 or so That pin is now in most likely been recycled me resent to reset another poor boys luck! This time I opted to remove a layered row of bones (4) and fuse the bitch wrist back together again! Still got me left and now I got a weak right! Cause the wrist is a bitch at 41 years old! 😜. I may not be as good as I once was however I am Able to take a pain long enough by anyone from anywhere right up until the point I land a big old saw pay Popeye/Plutoed Punch! I like me spinach however me Guinness Jager & Yahweh! Have some fun me Friends! Just only hurt em when you must! No fun to kill, it is quite comical to tame a beast though!
I am right handed, and grew up fighting orthodox. Then I got stabbed 5 times in the left side of my body when I was 16. Almost overnight I involuntarily switched to south paw. It was weird because the transition felt completely natural and instant. As if I had been a south paw all my life. And it worked both ways. Orthodox felt foreign to me. I always grew up batting left. My dad is left handed, so I wonder if that has anything to do with it
I’ve used right handed southpaw since I was 7 years old did martial arts for almost 10 years and my teacher always told me to do what’s comfortable and work on that and trust me it’s worked lmfao
Marvin Hagler RIP and Lomachenko are both right handed southpaws and Miguel cotto is a left handed orthodox boxer, also both Samart Payakaroon and Yodsanklai Fairtex are right handed Thai legends who fight in southpaw, just because it’s “unatural” doesn’t mean it’s wrong.. I mean that’s how martial arts evolve you overcome and adapt 🙏🏼
So I'm right handed and go southpaw for like 5 years now, should I switch to orthodox even though I don't feel as powerful? Sorry bruh but I think I'll stay, this doesn't sound super legit.
So what you're getting at, if I'm following, is the age-old "You have to learn the rules before you can know when to break them"? Sort of like the boxing equivalent of a BJJ coach telling White Belts not to cross their feet during an armbar, but you occasionally see high-level dudes doing it later on in their progression. I guess I'm an outlier in that I'm right-handed with little dexterity in my left and I've always found orthodox to feel more natural. It made sense to want my "good hand" to deliver the power shots.
I think you're right about using the dominant side to train first because it's the way that someone develops a clean technique. They can use the good technique to train their dumb hand and foot for switching stances later. I'm shocked to finally find someone teaching others to fight from either side though. I've trained, spared and rolled with belt holders from multiple tournaments even the big tournament and former professional boxers and I find it rare to see someone who acknowledges that switching stances is something that is to be working towards. I'm going to be watching those videos soon. You have a great channel.
Niño Jardine Arellano I’d tweak it to you’re not them yet but his statement isn’t wrong. One of the worst things when I was coaching throws(judo specifically) was when a yellow belt would want to fight like their idle without knowing the basics. Once you’re that good fight like whoever works but don’t fight like that as a beginner.
Ethan Cobbe-Hoggan im not arguing with his explanation. I just don’t like the fact that he’s classifying us as people with limited capabilities in which we are unable to reach the greats that we look so high upon.
This is the biggest difference between traditional martial arts and boxing/mma. Everyone says so and so has a devastating right hand...what about his left? Lmao. Just food for thought
@@p.j.reynolds9989 true. When i did Karate i had mostly the same moves for every stance but for years i've only done Muay Thai and my southpaw stance is trash
Okay, so I'm left handed and was standing in orthodox until I switched to south paw one day and my buddies and I realised that my dominant leg is right and my dominant hand is left so south paw is my natural position. And your right, left handed people grow up in a right handed world
But what about Bruce Lee? ua-cam.com/video/OgvXQTy543U/v-deo.html
hard2hurt 3:09 I’m amberdextrous and like to fight southpaw because that’s what I’m comfortable with plus my left is stronger than my right but my jab is fast pls give me ur opinion on this comment.
What if you're both then what do you do?
Vasyl Lomachenko: Am I a joke to you?
Wrong? Lomochenko fights this way.
Says the guy who doesn't even grapple! Wasting my time listening to clown sauce from a guy who's "way" doesn't even work for himself! Practical Solutions for practical situations.. I've heard a lot of silly crap on my DAILY journey but this guy "mr self contradiction" is a true Mitch! So you're only talking to people who "barely train" or "just started".. You have so many examples that defy this logic yet you stick to it like cheerleader who thinks she's on the debate team.. Chess club DUMMY.. And you're missing many pieces! So if you want to cry about people presenting common sense and logic... Maybe you should cut the click bait crap and stop making ignorant statements so confidently!
First you learn the rules, then you get really good following the rules, THEN you can start breaking the rules :)
I edited out almost that exact sentence.
Well that's true but no average practitionner gets "really good" so i don't see the arm in adding tools to your arsenal. After all, beeing a jack of all trades master of none can make you a good mma practionner, so why try to be perfect in one area when :
- a lot of people will be better in that area
- you can gain an edge by learning something else
Sounds like Billionaires to me...
Yea aggree on that to a sertain point, as soon as one is able to develop a solid stance, cenetic chain movement and coordination, as soon that is done both sides should be emplimented equally.
But thats just my humble oppinion.
That's what I teach. You have to first have an understanding of the rules and then you can play with them.
“Right handed southpaw isn’t a thing”
cries in lomachenko
😭😭😭😭
And Justin Tafa
1:53
I’m dead
de la hoya left handed orthodox
"you'll never be good enough so don't do it" is basically what i get from this guy
He’s talking to idiots, so pretty much as soon as you know what you’re talking about he’s not teaching you anymore
@@Histgyph i mean he literally mentioned it in the video but yeah
@@ashtar3876 that's the point, he might not be talking to you.
Well he is saying that don't start there he addressed he is talking mainly to people that aren't great in boxing. Take jui-jitsu for a example our teacher shows us on rare occasions really top teir moves and we take 3 days learning this one move and doing our average trainings (our best classmate is orange belt) our teacher (a black belt) learned it in thirdy minutes at a convention the point is you need to get good at what you should be doing first then move onto advanced stuff
💯 😆
I am right handed and southpaw. It doesn't matter if your stronger hand is in the rear or in the front. It doesn't matter if you write with one hand or the other. What matters is how good you are at rotating your hips to the right or to the left. My hip movement feels more natural on one side therefore I am a southpaw.
I've attacked people all over the comments of this video but, you may have just converted me. That's why skateboarders all fight like that, you've really opened my eyes on this one. I owe ya
That’s exactly how I feel, I’ve trained southpaw on accident while growing up without noticing it wasn’t normal. But now my hip moves so easily with it. So much movement, I can strafe around really fast and throw my punches with speed and retract at the same speed
@@SicFromTheKush that makes so much sense because most skaters push with their right and lead with the left leg. I’m a lefty and am a southpaw but I did skate in my childhood
Exactly why I’m switching
Yeah I always fight southpaw even though I wrote with my right hand naturally. I actually switch it up consistently depending where my opponent is in the ring if he's to my left south paw if hes on my right I fight orthodox. Just because you can't do it doesn't mean I can't.
I’m right handed, Been training orthodox for a while and recently started training in southpaw. The comfortability and power is increasing fast to the point that it’s making me question why it feels so good. Regardless I will keep training both sides, because I believe versatility is a vital key and I guess that only time will tell the ultimate stance for myself.
I haven't had any matches, but I'm a right handed switch hitter with a very unorthodox style and a really good 1 2
Versatility translates really well into mma I believe.
Lead dominant hand does feel better but dominant foot forward feels even better coming from a wrestler. Right left doesn’t matter. Need to be able to fight with both hands and not be s one handed fighter.
@@thatguyagain6781 shotout to switch hitters I was always otheodox until dabbling into kyokushin it taught using both stances. So I took that philosophy and started applying switch hitting techniques. I fight using both stances for boxing its more fluid. It's a bit harder in terms of proper foot placement but over time trial and error you learn. I see it as trading your lead jab for a more lucid and snappier cross.
I’m naturally a right handed southpaw when I would get into fights that would be my stance and would win my jabs are strong but I’ve noticed that my left isn’t as good not as powerful or accurate
"Don't do what feels comfortable"
Aight guess i'll use righty southpaw
Lmao fr
This dude is a clown. Has no idea wtf hes talking about
Kool-Aid Man who
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@@AlphaQHard all jokes
Lol as a right handed person, I've been training as a southpaw for over 20 years. Whether that was "correct" or not, it's worked for me. 😉
Most southpaw fighters is really right handed.
I'd say he is right that it's not natural, but it can be trained in over time. I'm actually left dominant, but fight right handed. Just because that's how I was trained.
Fluent in both too I just never allowed my self to favour either, opens up alot more angles, certain tools work better from either or. Why limit yourself? Haha
That's me too brother ahaha, but to be fair I'm ambidextrous
right i believe it doesn’t matter if you stand southpaw and your right handed as long as you have power in your left just as much in your right
Left-hand dominant boxer here (peek-a-boo guard).
I was trained in southpaw stance by my trainers, approx. 6-7 months.
I recently decided to go orthodox.
What I noticed is that my jab was so much faster and stronger and my hooks felt sooo much heavier, like miles apart.
Also I can protect my liver better, since it's now on my back foot (right side of the body).
Switching stances to create more angles has now become much more easier.
I guess what Mike's trying to say is something along the lines of "learn the basics first, then start experimenting". I agree with that. Training "the traditional way" really helped me develop my weak hand before deciding to switch stances.
Fun fact! : Engage your-self in soccer/basketball and play with both feet/hands, as a side activity. Great tool for stamina + increasing your weak's foot/hand power.
Developing ambidextry/ambipedality has really help my weaak hand's with power and my feet with mobility! Being doing it already for 2 months, and i've seen moderate to big improvements
Okay👍🏻
I am offensive
and I find this a Right-Handed Southpaw
Lol what
Go see a doctor about that stroke buddy
well done
@@hard2hurt Yo you are wrong about striking being unnatural and wrestling being natural. Just sayin.
Tf
You can never tell someone what style suits them.
no but a fight will.
@@ny-juanfrost6299
"A" fight?
Possible. But for better results: testing a style in multiple fights, against multiple opponents. Then doing this with multiple styles for comparison.
The guy in the video trying to tell _everyone_ that they aren't right handed south paws, and that they aren't ambidextrous.... He's just flat out wrong.
@@shanerooney7288 actually if you’re starting out in boxing as a beginner. He is right. You learn boxing the normal way and then when you start getting good, that’s when you develop your own style and start bending the rules but when you’re starting off, you start the proper boxing way otherwise you’re just gonna get decked thinking you can do all the shit that professionals do. There is a reason why they’re professionals dude haha
@@recordingsbeforethenukeswe9588
The guy in the video is WRONG. period.
He is claiming "you're not ambidextrous. And your kid is definatly not ambidexterous."
He is saying "100% guarantee whatever feels 'natural' to you is wrong"
There is a "Normal" way to box. As in; the most common way. But just because it is the most common way doesn't mean a boxer is "bending the rules" for not boxing that way. THERE ARE NO RULES with regards to the stance you take.
The comman way is not the only "proper boxing way". Because the other stances aren't improper.
Is the Philley Shell considered a "wrong" way to box because it is less common?
How about the Peekaboo guard?
High guard vs Low guard, is one "wrong" and the other "right" ?
Square stance vs Sideways stance?
There is more than one way to "properly" box, and the dominant hand forward stance is on that list.
@@ny-juanfrost6299 cornball
The weirdest thing is when actual left-handers like De La Hoya, Miguel Cotto, and Andre Ward fight Orthodox.
Same concept as a right hander fighting southpaw...
Morpher
Left-handers make up only 10% of the population. So the chance of you fighting a true left-handed Southpaws are 10%.
True left-handed Southpaws fight Orthodox fighters 90% of the time. Thus there is little strategic benefit for a left-hander to fight Orthodox.
@@tomwalker389 im letting you know that your shit didnt make sense. Just ask yourself... Why?
De la Hoya was trained as an orthodox fighter because his first trainer didnt have the experience in training southpaws
I thought Oscar was a right handed southpaw.
As my boxing coach always told us. It doesn’t matter if you’re orthodox or south paw or a right handed south paw or a left handed orthodox. What really matters is if you can pull shit off.
After training fencing for 10 years being in southpaw is just a no-brainer for me. I've simply got way more mobility and coordination like that.
Long Jawn it’s really not the crazy 😂. I did fencing for like a month before boxing and it’s hard not to automatically go southpaw for me when i’m boxing
Same here big fencer in high school Moved on to MMA in the military but never got rid of the south but I’ve learned to switch back-and-forth but I still love my southpaw stats my footwork is stronger
I had the same experience, but in reverse; after being trained as an orthodox-side striker for ten years, I found fencing much easier with my left side forward. The hand is a bit less dextrous, but the feet are so much better at moving from that side.
It messes up people soooo badly when you spar full contact! Develop your southpaw folks!!!
Dude literal same, I fenced for years. it was great. Literally forced me southpaw for Muay thai.
I'm 10-1-0 and I'm a "Right handed southpaw" 😂💪
Because this guy is an idiot. I'm also 5-1-3 amateur boxer. A right handed southpaw also
U literally have to do what feels right when comes to stance and shit for me since I’m also a right handed southpaw all I had to do was train myself to use my left and I’m pretty proud of the progress I made with it not perfect but that’s the goal don’t even know if this homie qualified to talk about boxing/striking
@@sinatra9179 Completely agree, if you fight awkward your chins gettin touched early, Couple guys at my gym fight the same way. This is the way 👍😂
Are you guys Good with your Left hand?
If not, Then get out there and Train with that hand only.
This guy is an idiot. Style's makes fights and it's your style if it works for you then fuck whoever tells you otherwise
I'm left handed, and your comment "growing up in a right handed world" was spot on. Most times I fight southpaw, but I'm allergic to head kicks so...
Same... and I'm also allergic to right handed wrestlers. Fuckkkkk those single legs feel impossible not to fall prey too.
@@strikeforcek9149 Right handed, southpaw wrestler here.
Look for the guillotine, or turn into a God level sprawler. Classic High School style cow catchers work too, if you're a bigger dude. Get out there and train :)
Im allergic to fighting in general but I got to a school with a 1 fight per day average
Hackar 209 lmao are you from Modesto? ( asking cause of the 209)
I can very well relate to this too. Being naturally left handed (slicing cake and tightening bolts and such), but learned writing and playing guitar right handed, because of this a little more strength right handed side, but still a lot faster on left handed side. Up till now still figuring out what works out best, mostly othodox but switching at moments just to confuse. I do train on this specifically. Does this make me a left-handed orthodox?
“you’re not equally good with both hands. You equally suck with both hands” lol
Next video: “Here’s why you shouldn’t fight in the right stance”
You guys are catching on.
Lol true
Also we both said “you just suck with both hands” at the same time 😂😂😂 I need more Mike in my life.
Hahaha have you had a bunch of parents swear their kid is ambidextrous too?
Some people (like my brother) are actually ambidextrous. And I swear I'm not an ignorant doting brother, he can actually write with both hands
Everybody is a southpaw until they get bopped in the liver
I have never been a southpaw. Not even when I started.
I became both southpaw and orthodox thanks to karate. You're right the liver is exposed. But you can step in easier in certain cases. Trad karate makes you do both. Finding the positives in forcing both stances from the start.
Bro you acting like southpaw is a whole different stance then the orthodox stance, Southpaw is a mirror version of the orthodox. If you make a mistake as a orthodox, your liver would get popped too from a South paw. Iq'ued
Exactly
@jack boy they know 0 about boxing
I am a right handed and box southpaw mostly , it’s actually pretty common( Crawford, loma, Erickson lubin, Poirer ) . Also common for left handed orthodox fighters(cotto, de la Hoya, gsp.)
All of them are greats who learned southpaw. They weren’t great just like that
it feels natural to me my jab is way faster and stronger as well as my reflexes but he’s right i have no combinations and feel so restricted in that way since i can only throw a jab basically
Don't forget the greatest southpaw boxer of all time, Marvin Hagler
In my case is super rare, im still trying to find which stand should i use but i have these things
- im right handed (writting) but left footed
- my power leg is the left leg but in presition my right leg is better
-my left hand has more power but in presition my right hand is better
-always i were having more durability with my left hand than my right hand (for example in the gym i can do more repetition on bicep curl with my left hand than my right hand)
-for some reason i feel heavier my left foot than the right foot
So, should i keep using southpaw stance or what?
@@frankcocean gonna beat yo $#@!
I'm right handed and i fight southpaw. I wouldn't consider myself to be 'a southpaw' as such, but having done jeet kune do for a while I was forced to train my weaker (left) hand as my power punch/cross. It's to help with versatility in all situations I guess. I'm equally as comfortable fighting orthodox or southpaw but due to repetition I automatically go southpaw. Cool video, enjoyed this.
With fencing and JKD I have a lot of fine motor skills in my right. Though mainly I like southpaw to fuck with people's minds.
Imma southpaw and I'm ambidextrous but I still know my accuracy and power is def in my left
@Jamie B preach fam it's only like 10% of ppl who are truly left handed
@Jamie B I knew you were from how u explained in the comment even though you were speaking about the physical aspect I can see from your mental psyche or breakdown that you a lefty and we got to hold it down for the small percentage of us in the world blessings and good health
Kieron Doherty I do both too I can fight both stances almost just as well
Im southpaw, Right handed and left footed. I actually like my strong hand forward so when I slip I can come back with a fast hard jab and follow it up with whatever the left leg brings
I’m a orthodox left handed and left footed 😂
Same with me😂
Same. Left leg dominant right hand dominant. It is what it is.
Orrrr hear me out cornball. Why don’t you just switch stances when you pivot and murk them with the right hand forward
No way I've actually found a fellow left foot right hand !! I was forced as a kid to use ortho stance in boxing due to me being right hand dominant. It now feels natural to me after years at it obvcourse but always wonder what if 😂
I’m right handed and I’ve fought southpaw my whole life and this video fucks with my anxiety
do what suits you lol who the fuck this guy think he is a yoda or smthng
I'm right handed but I've always felt better Southpaw, and I spent years training HEMA with a heavy shield in myleft hand so my left arm is actually noticeable stronger than my right.
Do what suits you.
I'm not saying this guys wrong, just he ain't always right.
@@amir-bz2he LMAO
@@amir-bz2he same. I did TKD competitions standing Southpaw and I'm right handed. My instructor never corrected my stance.
@@amir-bz2he for real I've never even heard of this guy and the dislike count is hidden. I'm sure there are response videos to this guy. There always is.
As someone who boxed for almost 6 years, I'm right handed but fought southpaw, so the concept of what feels natural is wrong is wrong. If you're fighting yourself you never get to fight your opponent.
Very well said
Not a very good boxer, obviously.
Loma said in an interview he has been southpaw since starting as a child so you’re wrong he didn’t start doing it when he was great also no to mention Marvin hagler, Usyk ,de la Hoya mike Tyson, Miguel cotto, Tyson fury and many more fighter who put there stronger hand forward, not only this but on many occasions I have been told the jab is the most important punch so why would I not want my better hand doing it? also your lead hand lands way more because it’s the faster less seen punch. Not to mention some people find it easier to move of there strong leg (lead leg dominance) and many believe movement to be more important than power and lastly your dominant eye can play a huge role in which stance is better for you as it effects how you see punches coming which is crucial for defence I understand your points but think it would be interesting to see your counter arguments to mine thanks.
I am a true southpaw, I write with my left hand, I'm blind in my left eye, also a wrestling stance would have you stand with your left leg back with few exceptions, maybe that's why some guys want to stand southpaw is because the nature to wrestle. I like your view on fighting though, you have some cool points.
Left leg back wrestling stance is a normal right handed stance fyi..but great perspectives
Thank you the other thing I forgot to say is some people like Terrance Crawford has mentioned just prefer the feeling of balance it gives them as it makes your weaker hand more powerful by moving it to the back and it makes your stronger hand faster by moving it closer.
Thank you for this
@@bremertoncitizen4667 no problem you’re welcome
I can’t even wipe my ass with my left hand. There’s no way I’m going to be able to throw a good cross with my left hand
Hey, you uh wanna explain that name?
That name....
Filthy Peasant
Part of it is thinking that Miesha Tate is hot, part of it is making fun of someone else for having the name “Taylor Swift’s Fart Box”
when I was a complete noob I tried being a "right handed southpaw" but in a short time I just realized orthodox is the best thing ever
I’m in the same boat wiping my ass but my left cross has gotten a lot better over the years
As a left handed south paw, I'm having fun reading these comments
I swear, i have been doing most things righties do with right with my left right from when i was born, and that translated into boxing, and ppl here bickering abojt Oscar ad Tyson being left handed orthodox is funny
Same
I'm a left handed orthodox. Reason being I've played basketball for years before I got into Mauy Thai, so my left feet being the pivot foot, feels comfortable at the front.
Im a left handed orthodox kinda. Lmao I'm left handed but where I grew up, being left handed was a bad thing so I was made to do things right handed. I write extremely slow as a result but when I started kickboxing, the people at the gym determined that I'm for sure left handed because of this test they do on new students where they just beat them and I always tried to block shit with my left hand
Also: do you know a Jesse Aguilar?
Marvin Hagler used his strong hand first, hence why he was so powerful with the jab. Can't agree with this when many fighters were successful using their dominant hand first.
Definitely a right handed southpaw here. No doubt about it. I skateboard goofy, box southpaw, grapple/clinch/defend takedowns with right hand forward, and write with my right hand.
I'm the exact same with J boarding, skate boarding, I even hold my knife and fork the wrong way, I'm right handed but even used to play cricket south paw. So I have no clue what this guys trying to say
exactly same here, I switched to southpaw after a shoulder injury and it became natural to me, I hands down do everything as a southpaw either way though, skateboarding/downhill long boarding I'm goofy, wrestle right foot forward same for judo stance... it just works for me, and I have several state championships and a national championship to vouch for the effectiveness of my style.
@@kdude1000 yup same story here down to the wrestling
Same. Skateboard goofy and box southpaw. Right handed. I fight well but dunno if having a right “2” is better.
@@chocolatepudding6146 In my opinion, if you do things such as skateboard goofy id recommend learning south paw and having the ability to fight southpaw and orthodox, works for me. Most people also wont see it coming if you start the fight doing orthodox and midway switching to southpaw. It has its benefits and negatives tho
Fighting is about being open minded and learning new things, testing boundaries, finding new ways to move around. Each time the fight game evolves its because a new guy trains a different way & we learn in the art.
This video is about beginners who refuse to attempt orthodox stance for a significant amount of time because of their “natural inclination.” Not just closed minded, but intentionally ignorant as well. You are making his point for him.
“Your not Lomachenko” Bruh this man makes sense just a little if it feels natural then keep that stance and work hard to build up that left hand my right handed southpaw boxers
I started standing Southpaw cause it fucked with the right handed people in my taekwondo classes. They'd think my dominant hand was weak and then boom- chest check with the lead fist.
What he said was so dumb. Imagine if someone gave this advicd to Loma before he got started...
well loma started from noob to pro too so when he was noob he is southpaw right handed too right? and his human too and im human to and youre human too so we can all do everything that loma can do
What feels natural isn’t what works, same thing applies to baseball, basketball, football, and pretty much any other sport
@@iamfriendly6483 I'm thinking this dude got beat up by a RH southpaw a few times and is just spewing venom.
2:23 is when I turned this video off
That line was ment to induce insecurities and disconfodence
The absolute worst thing you can do in life is limit yourself because weather you believe it or not you will shatter your own expectations
Look up red bull art of motion and you will understand friend
And that's not just boxing that's life in general
The best way to ruin a potential boxer or martial artist is to force them to fight orthodox, and not encouraging him to learn technique from both stances since the beginning
This lil bro wants students to be mediocre so he can fool them
@@honorylealtad5596 completely agreed
"You're not ambidextrous, and your kid DEFINITELY isn't ambidextrous"
This hurted my feelings, bro... I'm trying 😂
Lol everyone keeps coming in here telling me their kid is a phenom. It's just statistically impossible they're all phenoms haha
Oh yeah ambidextrous people don't exist. It's a fucking LEARNED ability, mo-ron
@@davidjones8043 isn’t ambidextrous also a talent? I’m right handed but because of kickboxing I’m a switch fighter but preferred use southpaw
Hurted isn’t a word ‘bro’
@@ophiolatreia93 who fucking cares
I feel more comfortable having my right hand forward and I started out like that and still fight that way 5 years later. It’s not wrong or bad.
I'm in the southpaw stance as well and yes I have my right hand forward but it isn't the hand I depend on.
"If it doesn't apply, then it shouldn't offend you. And if it does offend you, then it definitely applies "
Most accurate statement ever...
Tolin Peterson dumb shit is offensive rather it applies or not lmao.
All good trainers talk about comfortable. Your suppose to be comfortable when you fight.
Plenty of fighters are right hand southpaws. Oscar, Loma, marquez
This is just a way for closed minded people to dismiss someone who’s different and try and make you feel stupid. Same argument that feminists use when they attack a whole gender and then u argue back
If you are a southpaw that means that your right foot is in front and your left foot is in the back just move to your Left away from his lead and your lead foot outside of their lead foot and get the foot position and you can keep the angle
"Blaa blaa blaa.. You're wrong and I have no reasons to tell you why!" Lol! This video on something so old and basic has been needed for such a surprisingly long time!
Yes. It seems like everyone with no boxing experience has their strong hands in front. It doesn't work because most can't throw a straight left.
@@snowconeman512 Even though they gave a ton of reasons as to why strong side forward is better and named a ton of fighters that fight like that. You done lying now?
@@PikUpYourPantsPatrol did you read my first sentence? I said people with no experience. You done trying to make me look dumb?
Man, I love being a Southpaw
me too
Vanilla is a description I never expected would be used to describe a fighting stance...
Ioanna OtiNanai this is why I love his channel so much!
Πονηρούλα.
You know what I mean haha
Why create controversy when it's not necessary? In some sports, including tennis, there are exceptional athletes who compete using their non-dominant hand. One might speculate that the individual could perform better using their dominant hand, but it is theory as you cannot predict if their performance will increase for sure. It's possible that the athlete simply swings the racket better with their non-dominant hand (just for swinging rackets). There is no guarantee that they made the wrong choice. Engaging in a debate about a stance seems unwarranted. The term "southpaw" in sports typically refers to an athlete's stance, rather than their innate handedness.
It seems to me that you found a synonym of "Southpaw stance", which is "Southpaw", and took advantage of it to then define "Southpaw" as "natural left-handedness" instead of an athletic stance. In this way, you can start controversy by telling everyone that you know what's best for them, because according to you, in order to be an outlier, you need to be officially ranked. So anyone not officially ranked is deemed by you to be a "false" outlier.
So, when someone writes with their right hand, but plays badminton with their left, you will be there to tell them that you know better than them, because if they are not world top ranked, they can't be outliers. However, it's possible that person will never be top ranked with either hand, but is indeed better at badminton/boxing with the opposite stance/hand. Just because they aren't top ranked doesn't mean you know the "truth" of their biology.
In fact, even science has been constantly proving itself wrong regarding biology, showing that we still have lots to learn and discover. Many facts about biology in the past keeps being proven wrong. There is no way you actually know that the person isn't an outlier.
“Learn the rules like a pro to break them like an artist”.- Your Mom
I am a right handed person. I think i have much better output of fighting power in southpaw stance. Throwing mostly left cross punches. It also balances you very well if you use mainly your weaker hand.
Bruce Lee's recommended strong side forward stance cannot be ignored for street fighting. Oscar De La Hoya, Gerry Cooney, Henry Cooper, Marvin Hagler, Ray Mancini, Lomachenko, all made the style work for them. In Joe Frazier's book he turns around left-handed fighters and makes them orthy for the hard jab and lead hook. The rear hand comes along with work. Just playing devil's advocate lol.
Andre Ward, Miguel Cotto among others have done it to great success it just takes practice
So lefties should 100% be fighting orthy?
@@platinumcod1378 Well all I can tell you is from my own experience as a lefty fighting orthy for awhile once you get muscle memory in one stance its tough to switch to another. Try both and see what you like best. The left hook from a converted southpaw is a very hard punch, like swinging a baseball bat, all your being goes into it. From personal experience I got killed fighting southpaw, got cracked with right crosses down the middle. Your jabs meet in mid air and there's a lot of pawing. As an orthodox fighter I was a lot better. The two styles are entirely different.
Mirko Cro cop
Its odd too because this is a very blanketed video Im ambidextrous because I trained dance for 13 years while im technically right handed. Sensei is left handed, so when I spar with martial arts I switch but if Im doing only boxing I box southpaw, but can switch. It depends on training in boxing as well as previous training in other sports. Sometimes people enter a class and are not a blank slate.
I love Lomachenko, but you’re 100% right that what he does I can’t do!
As someone that has had 4 pro fights. The southpaw stance is a great way to start the fight if you know your opponent is technical. it's nice to have the surprise factor when you switch to orthodox.
That switch hitting doesn't work against a true boxer he'll adjust instantly when you switch
@@wnbagotnext7251 your probably right but in MMA and kickboxing it's a little harder for guys to adjust especially when they thought they had u figured out
@@thechosenwon4089 exactly, you factor in the calf kicks high kicks knees. switching in MMA is pretty useful. but as for boxing a true elite boxer would adjust accordingly no problem. 2 different worlds both awesome tho💪
@@thechosenwon4089 Just switching won‘t surprise them. How you do it will
@@wnbagotnext7251 Switch hitting on itself doesn’t but the way you do it can either work or not work
Finally someone else admits that it's right handed people World the struggle is real Mike
Learning how to jab with my right hand greatly improved my left-handed jab, because it helped me understand the kinetic chain and body mechanics of a jab
The body mechanics behind a jab can be explained to anyone in minutes, and understand the punch after hours of high rep movements - aka heavy bag / shadow boxing with feedback.
It’s literally a linear path. How difficult to understand (key here: understand not master) could you possibly find it?
I'm southpaw not because of my hands but because of my legs. Having my right leg forward is much more comfortable I tend to fall over my self if pressured when fighting orthodox. But ig that means I should practice more orthodox
Hey right handed southpaw here and can fight orthodox - and I agree with you entirely.
I actually learned Orthodox first and once I got good with my natural fighting style and defence I started to work on my southpaw then switched as my primary stance due to it becoming more effective for me. Right handed southpaw is hard. Very very hard.. Right handed southpaws don't do 1-2 combos, they tend to do 1-2-1 combos (power jab, cross, power jab) and tend to fight with a leading hook which is very hard to catch a skilled opponent with. You need to be careful against infighters as your left cross can be very weak and you won't generate enough power in your jab to really push them back.
It's very hard to counter if you are a right handed southpaw, to me it's a very offensive stance - You can apply pressure to the opponents lead hand but if you start throwing combos that are easy to read and get caught on the counter especially against another southpaw I find. You need to apply constant pressure and it can be tiring but I've been told it's very difficult to defend against if done correctly.
As a right handed south paw myself defense is key to stopping those counters and a more squared up stance helps with the weak power from the lead right hand turning a jab into more of a straight
12 sec into the video and I already feel attacked
I saw you standing southpaw and knew you couldn't defend.
Me too
Same bro
hard2hurt wrong
As a lefty I can confirm that we pick up more dexterity in our right hand making adjustments to a right-handed world, but most of us aren't ambidextrous, And yes I can swap back and forth between orthodox and southpaw but that from practice and being nice to confused sparring partners
There is such a thing as right handed southpaw (e.g Hagler and Lomachenko, like he said), and there is such a thing as left handed orthodox fighters (e.g. Cotto and Delahoya).
At times people develop an affinity for a particular type of punch, and your stance decides how quickly and how well you can throw that punch. For example, many people like throwing a straight, so it makes sense to take the stance where your strong hand is the hand furthest away, allowing them to generate power. Others might build an affinity to throwing hooks and jabs, and don't really feel as comfortable throwing straights, so they might choose to have their stronger more accurate hand closer to their opponent.
It is not common, but to say it isn't a thing is simply not true. Those fighters, because of the way they fight, make being a right handed southpaw, or a left handed orthodox fighter, an advantage for themselves.
I started by doing Tae Kwon Do, and in that we were taught how to do every single technique with both feet and both hands. I chose to use my right hand because my left cross is almost as strong as my right, but my right jab is better, so I choose to train southpaw
Same! I'd much rather train my left cross up to par and capitalize on mt already developed right jab then have to star over with both in the standard stance. I understand training both sides but southpaw feels right after years of tkd
Well of course you guys feel all screwed up... you have been training taekwondo for years
@@hard2hurt ooooooowwww yeah, kabooom
@@hard2hurt lol burn
You should be just as good with each stance but at the same time naturally you have more power in your strong side arm. . . A jab with your stong arm isn't as effective as a straight with your strong arm
"you are starting you are supposed to suck do not be afraid of sucking!"
"It's not he is doing it so it must be good it's that he is good so he is allowed to do it"
So many things on this videos can be applied to so many things thank you.
Any pursuit really.
“Learn the rules like a pro, so you can break them like an artist.” - Pablo Picasso
There are no rules. It's a man made rule that a lefty should be a southpaw. What a ridiculous rule. Do what works for you. To some people like me being a right handed Southpaw works better.
@@angelolacap9681 It is a stupid ass rule Lomachenko and Usyk are both right handed southpaws. Since a great jab is possibly the most important thing in boxing they trained as southpaws to use their strong hand as the jab
thebeyegee the point of the video is newbies learn to fight with your dominant hand back then once you’ve gotten that down really well then you can switch it up and my guy your not loma
@@razalfraz6618 You're an idiot, you dont have to be Loma to be a right handed southpaw. AND SOMETHING YOU DIDN'T KNOW WAS MIKE TYSON WAS A LEFT HANDED ORTHODOX FIGHTER
Here's a few examples of right handed Southpaws:
Prince Naseem Hamed
Chad Dawson
Victor Ortiz
Guillermo Rigondeaux
Marvin Hagler
Vasyl Lomachenko
Hector Camacho
Raushee Warren
Winky Wright
Michael Moorer
Sergio Martinez
Juan Urango
Antonio DeMarco
Tony Thompson
Joe Calzaghe
Juan Manuel Lopez
Mosley, Dela Hoya and Crawford are orthodox but can stance switch and not to mention. All superb fighters, so long story short, shut your f-ing mouth because you don't know a single thing about boxing you ignorant casual. Stick to watching the karate kid
@@razalfraz6618 what you don't understand is being left handed or right handed is a matter of natural instincts right? Being an orthodox or a southpaw is also a matter of natural instinct. People are infinitely better with their natral instincts.
I trained orthodox for years until I trained with a JKD group and they suggested I switch. Was awkward at first, putting my power in front, but it improved my sparring so much. Now, I can fight in either stance and adapt perfectly, but I always start southpaw.
I'm a left handed boxer but I have a orthodox stance but I know how to switch my stance up during a fight and my right hand is strong like my left
I feel like he hates southpaws
I come from a JKD, eskrima, and silat background. For the most part we trained southpaw first because A.) our fine motor skills are more developed in our right hand which lends itself well to trapping, parrying and other movements that require more finesse B.) it's the hand that's going to be holding the melee weapon, and C.) to utilize footwork against orthodox fighters. We treated the left hand as the shield and General purpose slugging weapon when finesse wasn't called for.
I have a question, lmao when I first started, i was a orthodox, but I wanted to get comfortable with southpaw and now orthodox feels awkward for me, I could switch but I feel like my jab is better at southpaw. And I have been trying to fix this for a year, lol how do you fix this?
I'm a "right handed southpaw" and I was literally thinking loma when you mentioned him 😄😄😄😄
Just to let u guys know being a right handed southpaw isn't wrong Southpaw have a advantage over orthodox fighters and u might be a Cross dominant or mixed handed person ur more comfortable with one hand in different types of works.
I’m right handed and “naturally” fight left handed forward as it makes much more sense to have power coming from farther away, however, fighting southpaw has proven to be much more effective for me. So idk about this chief.
How did you measure that effectiveness?
hard2hurt both friendly sparring and not so friendly fighting; But to be fair I switch my stance very often while fighting based off of situational positioning and my opponent’s stance.
@@hard2hurt Do you have any experience with mixed handed fighters? I write left, throw right, bat left, kick right, shoot hoops right. I have equal power in both punching hands but my right jab feels better. However I notice my defense is not as good when I box southpaw.
@@j-r-m7775 dangerous
I'm only a south paw because I was already used too that from my fencing background and that's how my coach ranforced it in boxing
I have the greatest success in sparring when I switch stances fluidly. When i confine myself to orthodox I'm stiffer and less versatile
The best way to ruin a potential boxer or martial artist is to force them to fight orthodox, and not encouraging him to learn technique from both stances since the beginning
Right handed southpaw here, due to a boxer's break on my right hand and a bad fracture on right foot (it also helps I was formerly ambidextrous as child).
But I was initially trained left hand forward.
Even when I was young , I didn’t know what south paw even was, but I always had my strong had in the back and left in front .
I'm predominantly right handed. I use my RH for everything but I CAN use my LH for normal everyday things like writing. I choose not to use my left as my dominant. But when I fight I instinctively go to my LH in rear and RH in front. Fighting orthodox just feels SO wrong.
I’m right handed but my left is much stronger. I trained and fought orthodox for a white collar boxing event.
When I continued later training I made the switch to southpaw and regret nothing. It Just feels right and I’m able to move and fight more naturally.
Based on your description, you're not right-handed. You are actually cross-dominant/mixed-handed. This refers to a person who has different hand preference for different tasks. For example you write and do everything accurately with your right hand, but your left is stronger so you prefer using your left for physical tasks like throwing and punching.
@@brendanfrost2475 That actually makes a lot of sense thinking back. I feel my footwork is better in an southpaw style too so who knows.
I’m a right handed southpaw and I’d finish you
I'm left handed orthodox. I write and serve in tennis with my left. I swing in tennis, golf, baseball and cricket, and play table tennis with my right.
I stand orthodox when i box.
I am left handed orthodox. so was Mike Tyson... I think it comes down more to your feet and stance than your actual striking. I am left handed, but if you push me, my right leg goes back first. That is how to determine your stance.
FINALLY! Someone addresses what is natural to fighting. I do wonder, though, Mike- what about eye dominance? Can it be an issue? Anyway, hope you and yours are well.
it can be. but can be easily overcomed in most situation. Hand dexterity is more of an issue.
I’m a southpaw, and right handed. Trust me i was born like this. I can’t change it. For me, it so hard for to change my stance, or even use lift hand. All the power is in my right hand
How do you bat ?
your power hand isn't supposed to be your lead hand lmao
I'm a right-handed switch hitter
@@taxevasion4202 that’s why u make ur left hand powerful which Is what I’m doing
Why would you want your jab to be on your stronger arm
Can you make a video about counterpunching?
Didn't know you were an evolutionary scientist lol
Not a competitive athlete by any means but I have been training in the self defense realm for awhile, back when I was in Krav I had my trainer "force" me so to speak to lead with my dominate hand even though every instinct I had told me to keep my left hand lead. It's good to know my spidey senses weren't incorrect in this. Thanks for all the great content here at Hard2Hurt it's much appreciated especially when I am having talks with my less experienced friends and they sound like you when you're mimicking the key board cowboys.
"Our natural instincts tells us to hit as hard as possible", "our natural instincts is not to hit each others".
Stop the painkillers, Mike.
'Painkiller' Mike, new wrestling name.
If you're going to use quotes, it's supposed to be things I actually said.
@@hard2hurt Oh gee, you totally got me on that one! It completely annihilates the fact that you've contradicted yourself in a few minutes gap while claiming to be talking about fighting in a realistic a serious way.
"Our natural is not to hit each others" - when exactly did he say that?
@@ChristheCEO1 When he said we are not design to hit each others, and that our natural instincts drives us to grapple
Also, I'm well versed in martial arts. I don't fight or spar often enough. I am mostly interested in the knowledge of it all than the hurting aspect.
But I always just like watching a lot of channels on martial arts. It is always good to keep watching what everyone else is doing.
I find your opinions mostly closed until you meet someone who shows you differently. You also tend to click bait your names. Your opinions are usually not as harsh as your titles. Lol
That's youtube 101
@@hard2hurt I mean, you aren't wrong. Lol
So I am a fraternal Twin. Not identical. Wrestling is absolutely a dominance thing! We are 41 years old and still “wrestle”! How ever crazy that sounds, we typically get along 99% of the time and we “wrestle” with our words now at 41 years old! .99% of the time! Both of us are right handed “naturally”! I am built like a train he is built like tractor trailer. Anyway. When we were 15 years old we were “screwing” around during half time of a soccer game where “we” me & me twin were refereeing a under-10 soccer game! He was maybe 30 feet away from me and he “rocketed” a ball ⚽️ at me (kicked). I was not paying attention however I caught a glimpse and “blocked” the ball from hitting me in the face with my “right” hand 🤚! It shattered me Wrist! Long story short! I told “we” Mom and she looked at it hours later after we got home from finishing our afternoon of reffing soccer games! She said suck it up butter cup it is just a sprain! I said okay we Mom! However I think it is broken & she(me broken wrist) hurts! Long story fast forward 9 months we were playing one on one basket ball. And I literally did nothing other than take a shot with my right broken wrist after 9 months pain. I felt a snap crack pop & twist! I said to we Mom hey you re-member when me twin broke me wrist. She (we mom) said okay let’s go to the Doctor not the hospital! We went to a Dr “Wish”! “We Mom felt 😢 when me Doctor Wish said you have had a broken shattered wrist for along time and I am gonna need to re break reset pin that bitch back together! Well you can imagine being a twin with only a left arm for fighting, I have learned to be saw paw not cause it feels natural cause Fast forward 8more years when I was 24 or so That pin is now in most likely been recycled me resent to reset another poor boys luck! This time I opted to remove a layered row of bones (4) and fuse the bitch wrist back together again! Still got me left and now I got a weak right! Cause the wrist is a bitch at 41 years old! 😜. I may not be as good as I once was however I am Able to take a pain long enough by anyone from anywhere right up until the point I land a big old saw pay Popeye/Plutoed Punch! I like me spinach however me Guinness Jager & Yahweh! Have some fun me Friends! Just only hurt em when you must! No fun to kill, it is quite comical to tame a beast though!
You just don’t rate southpaw because you’ve learnt using orthodox
Did you listen to anything he said?
I think I needed this video. Although I'm still gonna train both sides.
I'm equally spastic on both sides of my body.
Lol
Sick
Then use southpaw u gain an advantage over your opponent and this lad doesn’t know what he’s talking bout
@@tommytiger1996 who you replying to
Tommy Tiger he does he explained it really well.
I am right handed, and grew up fighting orthodox. Then I got stabbed 5 times in the left side of my body when I was 16. Almost overnight I involuntarily switched to south paw. It was weird because the transition felt completely natural and instant. As if I had been a south paw all my life. And it worked both ways. Orthodox felt foreign to me. I always grew up batting left. My dad is left handed, so I wonder if that has anything to do with it
I’ve used right handed southpaw since I was 7 years old did martial arts for almost 10 years and my teacher always told me to do what’s comfortable and work on that and trust me it’s worked lmfao
Well, i'm a left-handed orthodox though.. maybe it has to do with my right leg being the dominant one.
Yeah I’m the same. Right handed but left leg is dominant. Can fight both stances well
I'm literally the opposite to you. Right handed southpaw and the left leg is the dominant one.
konpaleo Hi twin
I’m a left hand orthodox and my father is a right handed southpaw what the fuck
@@djm91607 haha totally normal stuff
I love how straight up he is
Marvin Hagler RIP and Lomachenko are both right handed southpaws and Miguel cotto is a left handed orthodox boxer, also both Samart Payakaroon and Yodsanklai Fairtex are right handed Thai legends who fight in southpaw, just because it’s “unatural” doesn’t mean it’s wrong.. I mean that’s how martial arts evolve you overcome and adapt 🙏🏼
So I'm right handed and go southpaw for like 5 years now, should I switch to orthodox even though I don't feel as powerful? Sorry bruh but I think I'll stay, this doesn't sound super legit.
Fight the way you feel, be the best at it. Learn to fight in any situation. Whether a southpaw or orthodox fighter.
So what you're getting at, if I'm following, is the age-old "You have to learn the rules before you can know when to break them"? Sort of like the boxing equivalent of a BJJ coach telling White Belts not to cross their feet during an armbar, but you occasionally see high-level dudes doing it later on in their progression.
I guess I'm an outlier in that I'm right-handed with little dexterity in my left and I've always found orthodox to feel more natural. It made sense to want my "good hand" to deliver the power shots.
Exactly... and great example.
I think you're right about using the dominant side to train first because it's the way that someone develops a clean technique. They can use the good technique to train their dumb hand and foot for switching stances later. I'm shocked to finally find someone teaching others to fight from either side though. I've trained, spared and rolled with belt holders from multiple tournaments even the big tournament and former professional boxers and I find it rare to see someone who acknowledges that switching stances is something that is to be working towards. I'm going to be watching those videos soon. You have a great channel.
“You’re not them”
“You’re not Lomachenko”
Words that come out of people that will never grow.
Niño Jardine Arellano I’d tweak it to you’re not them yet but his statement isn’t wrong. One of the worst things when I was coaching throws(judo specifically) was when a yellow belt would want to fight like their idle without knowing the basics. Once you’re that good fight like whoever works but don’t fight like that as a beginner.
Ethan Cobbe-Hoggan im not arguing with his explanation. I just don’t like the fact that he’s classifying us as people with limited capabilities in which we are unable to reach the greats that we look so high upon.
Niño Jardine Arellano my bad, I agree with you on that front. Sorry for the misunderstanding🙏
Niño Jardine Arellano yes sir
"most people want to stand right hand forward"
Um, what? Vast majority (right hand dominant) naturally want to stand orthodox (left hand forward).
Every person I've seen wants to stand squared up
Good thing I've been a right handed south paw for about 10 years 😁
Yeah it's too late for you you're fucked.
@@hard2hurt lol
Hey man I’ve been fighting as a right handed southpaw for a year and I find it hard to switch to orthodox should I stay as a southpaw
I was trained in TKD and Japanese JJ to train with both sides. And they have their functions.
This is the biggest difference between traditional martial arts and boxing/mma. Everyone says so and so has a devastating right hand...what about his left? Lmao. Just food for thought
@@p.j.reynolds9989 true. When i did Karate i had mostly the same moves for every stance but for years i've only done Muay Thai and my southpaw stance is trash
Okay, so I'm left handed and was standing in orthodox until I switched to south paw one day and my buddies and I realised that my dominant leg is right and my dominant hand is left so south paw is my natural position. And your right, left handed people grow up in a right handed world
I am left handed and use orthodox stance. My left leg feels natural in the lead.
They should become carpenters because all tape measures and circular saws are left handed. Nearly all.
Tbh as long as you’re getting success and look and feel good than ain’t nothing wrong with it