Please think for yourselves! The second person pronoun is used extensively in Scripture especially by Paul writing to specific congregations and by Jesus in his parables. Is it not important to examine the full context and know who they are referring to? Let's see how misguided pastors twist Scripture to promote their false theology like eternal security (aka OSAS) Phil chap 1 BIBLE "to all God's holy people at Philippi .: (vs 3).. I thank my God everytime I think of YOU... Being confident that he who began a good work in YOU will carry it through to completion" (vs 6) PASTOR's version:- "being confident that he who began a good work in ANYONE, so NO ONE ever, could possibly be disqualified or lose salvation...." Thus "proving" OSAS!?? COMMENT: so pastor, from Paul's feelings vs.7 and intimate knowledge of his Philippian congregation you want to apply a blanket statement for anyyone today, while conveniently ignoring ≈ 75 warnings of how a righteous person can lose their salvation…? We cannot assume that the "YOU" he refers to, is any and all born again current Christians today, which is about as fallacious and misguided as one could be. One only has to CROSS REFERENCE Paul with Rom 2:6 and what Jesus says e.g. about those made "clean" (ergo "Born again") who become attached to the TRUE Vine in John 15, to see that OSAS is a dangerously false doctrine. YOU have to freely remain in him producing good fruit, for him to remain in YOU. Otherwise "YOU will be cut off and thrown in the fire." When Jesus speaks in parables using the 2nd person plural, he is clearly speaking to his present faithful as well as a message for all to come. There is nothing in Paul's letter to assume that he is writing to anyone but a congregation he knows intimately. Get it? So what about Eph 2: 8-9 ?
Rather than focusing on losing your salvation, focus on what Christ has accomplished by His shed blood. If we cling close to Christ (abide) we do:not concern ourselves with losing our salvation. John 1:12-13 says, “ But as many as received him, to them, he gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in his name: who are born not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.” You become a child of God. Even though you may stray, you are still a child of God if you were truly born again. Even a human parent recognizes his child as “his” and this can never change. OSAS is not a clear line, but give God the benefit of mercy when we go astray. Abide in Christ and quit focusing on the walk of others. They are responsible for their own salvation. Eph 1:13-14 says, “ In him you also trusted after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom, also having believed, you were also sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, who is the guarantee of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchase possession, to the praise of his glory.” Amen!
Thank God I believe I was sealed with the Holy Spirit. My life would be miserable if I considered I could lose a salvation that I had no participation in receiving it!
So you consider yourself a righteous person who can never sin and be unsaved? Perhaps you haven't read the verse that says "if a righteous person turns from his righteousness and sins he will lose his life". Would you like another 70 vs that all so much same? Only the devil prowling around like a ravenous lion eager to devour gullible narcissistic fools wants you to ignore those warnings
I did not hear Chuck promote any such doctrine in once saved always saved in this sermon, nor in any others. You are actually behaving in the way Paul has instructed us not to do in the Body. It's ok to disagree and still rejoice that Jesus is being proclaimed. My goodness.
So grateful to God to be a part of His church and to be sealed by the Holy Spirit!
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Please think for yourselves! The second person pronoun is used extensively in Scripture especially by Paul writing to specific congregations and by Jesus in his parables. Is it not important to examine the full context and know who they are referring to?
Let's see how misguided pastors twist Scripture to promote their false theology like eternal security (aka OSAS)
Phil chap 1
BIBLE "to all God's holy people at Philippi .: (vs 3).. I thank my God everytime I think of YOU... Being confident that he who began a good work in YOU will carry it through to completion" (vs 6)
PASTOR's version:- "being confident that he who began a good work in ANYONE, so NO ONE ever, could possibly be disqualified or lose salvation...." Thus "proving" OSAS!??
COMMENT: so pastor, from Paul's feelings vs.7 and intimate knowledge of his Philippian congregation you want to apply a blanket statement for anyyone today, while conveniently ignoring ≈ 75 warnings of how a righteous person can lose their salvation…?
We cannot assume that the "YOU" he refers to, is any and all born again current Christians today, which is about as fallacious and misguided as one could be. One only has to CROSS REFERENCE Paul with Rom 2:6 and what Jesus says e.g. about those made "clean" (ergo "Born again") who become attached to the TRUE Vine in John 15, to see that OSAS is a dangerously false doctrine. YOU have to freely remain in him producing good fruit, for him to remain in YOU. Otherwise "YOU will be cut off and thrown in the fire." When Jesus speaks in parables using the 2nd person plural, he is clearly speaking to his present faithful as well as a message for all to come. There is nothing in Paul's letter to assume that he is writing to anyone but a congregation he knows intimately. Get it? So what about Eph 2: 8-9 ?
Rather than focusing on losing your salvation, focus on what Christ has accomplished by His shed blood. If we cling close to Christ (abide) we do:not concern ourselves with losing our salvation. John 1:12-13 says, “ But as many as received him, to them, he gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in his name: who are born not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.”
You become a child of God. Even though you may stray, you are still a child of God if you were truly born again. Even a human parent recognizes his child as “his” and this can never change. OSAS is not a clear line, but give God the benefit of mercy when we go astray. Abide in Christ and quit focusing on the walk of others. They are responsible for their own salvation.
Eph 1:13-14 says, “ In him you also trusted after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom, also having believed, you were also sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, who is the guarantee of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchase possession, to the praise of his glory.” Amen!
Thank God I believe I was sealed with the Holy Spirit. My life would be miserable if I considered I could lose a salvation that I had no participation in receiving it!
So you consider yourself a righteous person who can never sin and be unsaved? Perhaps you haven't read the verse that says "if a righteous person turns from his righteousness and sins he will lose his life". Would you like another 70 vs that all so much same? Only the devil prowling around like a ravenous lion eager to devour gullible narcissistic fools wants you to ignore those warnings
I did not hear Chuck promote any such doctrine in once saved always saved in this sermon, nor in any others. You are actually behaving in the way Paul has instructed us not to do in the Body. It's ok to disagree and still rejoice that Jesus is being proclaimed. My goodness.