Great comparison and sharing of real differences between the three under same conditions that'll match expected end-user experiences while working with each one. I ordered the EGO 1804-2 package w/ the two 5ah batteries and rapid charger. Can't wait to cut with it! Thank you for a great video!
As far as I know, the Greenworks 82CS34 is the most powerful production battery chainsaw you can buy. They have another chainsaw coming out this year that will be even more powerful.
@@reusefull Yup! I knew it was advertised as such but always nice to see a company deliver the goods. Was unaware they were coming out with yet another one. Look forward to seeing how that performs!
By the way, thanks again for doing these videos, there is almost no footage of the 82CS34 online, as of today, it is pretty much just your channel. My own 82CS34 is on order, I am so excited waiting for it.
So far it's been an animal for me. The only real complaint I have is that both the GS181 and the 82CS34 weep bar oil. I store them on their side to prevent that. I would love to get a Dewalt 3kw or MSA300C to test against, but just haven't had the opportunity. Thanks for watching !
@@reusefull On the reviews I've seen, the Husky 540i is the Swede to beat. Would be interesting to see how that stacks yup against the DeWalt. Subscribed!
@@ToolHombre The Husqvarna 540i is kinda sad. They don't even give a power rating for the motor, only "equivalent to a 40cc gas engine", which would make it around 1.5kW. It's basically a low-power saw, like the Makita GCU04 only at twice the price. That's why it recommends a little 14" bar. The NEW Husqvarna that actually starts to be competitive is the Power Axe 350i 18". That one is their first mid-power saw at around 2.5 kW, making it comparable to a Greenworks GS181 or a Kobalt KCS 4080-06 (only, again, at twice the price, potentially for slightly higher build quality, but mostly you pay for the Husqvarna name). Husqvarna is a gas saw company that is not taking battery seriously, yet.
@@reusefull FYI the Stihl MSA300 only just became "available" in the USA last month, and Stihl dealers say it is hopelessly back-ordered. Also, it will apparently be WAY more expensive than the Greenworks, both expensive saw and expensive battery... and, of course, 12% less nominal power.
I found one mention that the Ego is 2.8 HP (so, 2.1 kW) which might be accurate. That explains the difference in cut time, more significant than the chain speed (20 m/s for Ego, 24 m/s for Greenworks).
In my hands, without seeing numbers, the chain speed difference feels bigger than 4 m/s. It feels like the Greenworks chain is moving at twice the speed. Part of it may be how they start. The Ego has more of a "soft" start.
@@reusefull Those are the marketing 'max' voltages. The nominal volts (used for calculating watt-hours) are multiples of 18, hence 54 and 72, not 56 and 82.
@Ben Discoe 👍gotcha. I measured 82 volts across the terminals on the Greenworks battery, but I'm sure it drops pretty quickly with use. I'll have to measure the voltage after a little run time. I haven't measured the Ego.
@Ben Discoe I'll do my best to put together a coherent thought for you on the battery, I have some knowledge of this through my work, but it's limited. A battery is made up of individual cells. Different cells, depending on what they're made of, have a fixed base voltage per cell... for instance NiCd cells are 1.2 volts, alkaline 1.5 volts, lead acid 2.2 volts, Lithium-Ion 3.6 volts etc. So a Lithium-Ion battery made up of individual cells would be a number divisible by 3.6... so 36, 54 and 72 would definitely work, but I don't think a battery is limited to those voltages. I think anything divisible by that 3.6 volt per cell number would work. I think some batteries are wired series parallel for greater current capacity. My observation of lead acid batteries is that if the charge voltage is 132 volts, when the battery comes off the charger with a load, it drops to 120 volts pretty quickly, but then recovers to around 124 volts. I'm sure Lithium-Ion has its own characteristics, but probably follows a similar pattern. Maybe an 82 volt charge would result in a 76 volt draw or so until the battery gets low. You've sort of aroused my curiosity about this. I'll do some voltage checks at different battery levels and let you know what I come up with.
@@reusefull Lithium ion cell chemistry is fully charged at 4.2V per cell, (can charge higher but negatively impacts cycle life). "Nominal" voltage is normally used to rate a cell and a pack, which is 3.6V per cell because once under load that's about what the cell will be operating at. Many companies use a higher voltage rating to boost their "marketing" voltage but it's not really changing the operating voltage. Greenworks uses 20 cells in series so 72V nominal operating voltage, 84V fully charged, so their "82V" rating is a bit of a fudge factor to the high side.
Great comparison and sharing of real differences between the three under same conditions that'll match expected end-user experiences while working with each one. I ordered the EGO 1804-2 package w/ the two 5ah batteries and rapid charger. Can't wait to cut with it! Thank you for a great video!
GW beat my expectations. Thanks for doing the comparison.
Just to be clear, this saw is from Greenworks Commercial, their "serious" line, not the regular 40/60/80V Greenworks product lines
As far as I know, the Greenworks 82CS34 is the most powerful production battery chainsaw you can buy. They have another chainsaw coming out this year that will be even more powerful.
@@reusefull Yup! I knew it was advertised as such but always nice to see a company deliver the goods.
Was unaware they were coming out with yet another one. Look forward to seeing how that performs!
@@ToolHombre me too!!
By the way, thanks again for doing these videos, there is almost no footage of the 82CS34 online, as of today, it is pretty much just your channel. My own 82CS34 is on order, I am so excited waiting for it.
So far it's been an animal for me. The only real complaint I have is that both the GS181 and the 82CS34 weep bar oil. I store them on their side to prevent that. I would love to get a Dewalt 3kw or MSA300C to test against, but just haven't had the opportunity. Thanks for watching !
@@reusefull On the reviews I've seen, the Husky 540i is the Swede to beat. Would be interesting to see how that stacks yup against the DeWalt.
Subscribed!
@@ToolHombre I'm interested in that comparison as well. I will try to get my hands on one!
@@ToolHombre The Husqvarna 540i is kinda sad. They don't even give a power rating for the motor, only "equivalent to a 40cc gas engine", which would make it around 1.5kW. It's basically a low-power saw, like the Makita GCU04 only at twice the price. That's why it recommends a little 14" bar. The NEW Husqvarna that actually starts to be competitive is the Power Axe 350i 18". That one is their first mid-power saw at around 2.5 kW, making it comparable to a Greenworks GS181 or a Kobalt KCS 4080-06 (only, again, at twice the price, potentially for slightly higher build quality, but mostly you pay for the Husqvarna name). Husqvarna is a gas saw company that is not taking battery seriously, yet.
@@reusefull FYI the Stihl MSA300 only just became "available" in the USA last month, and Stihl dealers say it is hopelessly back-ordered. Also, it will apparently be WAY more expensive than the Greenworks, both expensive saw and expensive battery... and, of course, 12% less nominal power.
I found one mention that the Ego is 2.8 HP (so, 2.1 kW) which might be accurate. That explains the difference in cut time, more significant than the chain speed (20 m/s for Ego, 24 m/s for Greenworks).
In my hands, without seeing numbers, the chain speed difference feels bigger than 4 m/s. It feels like the Greenworks chain is moving at twice the speed. Part of it may be how they start. The Ego has more of a "soft" start.
5 amp-hour batteries, not "5 amp" batteries. The voltages are different so the Ego has 270 Wh and the Greenworks has 360 Wh
280 wh and 410 wh respectively for the Ego and Greenworks batteries if the advertised voltages are correct 👍
@@reusefull Those are the marketing 'max' voltages. The nominal volts (used for calculating watt-hours) are multiples of 18, hence 54 and 72, not 56 and 82.
@Ben Discoe 👍gotcha. I measured 82 volts across the terminals on the Greenworks battery, but I'm sure it drops pretty quickly with use. I'll have to measure the voltage after a little run time. I haven't measured the Ego.
@Ben Discoe I'll do my best to put together a coherent thought for you on the battery, I have some knowledge of this through my work, but it's limited.
A battery is made up of individual cells. Different cells, depending on what they're made of, have a fixed base voltage per cell... for instance NiCd cells are 1.2 volts, alkaline 1.5 volts, lead acid 2.2 volts, Lithium-Ion 3.6 volts etc. So a Lithium-Ion battery made up of individual cells would be a number divisible by 3.6... so 36, 54 and 72 would definitely work, but I don't think a battery is limited to those voltages. I think anything divisible by that 3.6 volt per cell number would work. I think some batteries are wired series parallel for greater current capacity.
My observation of lead acid batteries is that if the charge voltage is 132 volts, when the battery comes off the charger with a load, it drops to 120 volts pretty quickly, but then recovers to around 124 volts. I'm sure Lithium-Ion has its own characteristics, but probably follows a similar pattern. Maybe an 82 volt charge would result in a 76 volt draw or so until the battery gets low.
You've sort of aroused my curiosity about this. I'll do some voltage checks at different battery levels and let you know what I come up with.
@@reusefull Lithium ion cell chemistry is fully charged at 4.2V per cell, (can charge higher but negatively impacts cycle life). "Nominal" voltage is normally used to rate a cell and a pack, which is 3.6V per cell because once under load that's about what the cell will be operating at. Many companies use a higher voltage rating to boost their "marketing" voltage but it's not really changing the operating voltage. Greenworks uses 20 cells in series so 72V nominal operating voltage, 84V fully charged, so their "82V" rating is a bit of a fudge factor to the high side.