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  • @LuisArcadia641
    @LuisArcadia641 7 місяців тому +17

    You are the Bob Ross of cable management

  • @hosseintarighatimomtaz3298
    @hosseintarighatimomtaz3298 28 днів тому +1

    I only saw 40 seconds of this and it was LOVELY. i love how you love this job. i love how you show it's importance. i love that beautiful intro. god be with you and your family man❤

  • @nyanates
    @nyanates 10 днів тому

    Just landed a condo that needs a renovation. Fun part will be replacing all the original 2002 coax cabling with Cat 6a and setting up my (wife: "Bonzo's Fun-time") server lab. This is a great learning series.

  • @wizsc
    @wizsc 5 місяців тому +6

    Too bad so little views. Im just overhauling my home network in my garage and ramping the game up a bit here and there and this stuff is gold man.

    • @tciproductions
      @tciproductions  5 місяців тому +2

      I thought we did okay on views! Glad it was helpful.

  • @estetotakbystechceli7526
    @estetotakbystechceli7526 Рік тому +12

    I watched several of your videos and this is the exact type of tutorial I needed (not just this video but all of them). I like precision in your planning and how you explain steps needed to be performed. I love how you pass all your knowledge without unnecessary talking. I did not skip any second from your video. I will not make network for any company, just for my home. But it is easy to scale down. Thank you

  • @samuelstroh8631
    @samuelstroh8631 11 місяців тому +5

    Stopped by to say, I like the idea of grounding the rack, I have a DIY home network and never thought of grounding the metallic box. THANKS!

    • @tciproductions
      @tciproductions  11 місяців тому +3

      The old timers would have mentioned it if I had skipped it :)

  • @NetITGeeks
    @NetITGeeks 6 місяців тому +4

    A well put together installation video. The last bit reminds me that I need to ground my network rack at home. :)

  • @Gilgwathir
    @Gilgwathir Рік тому +4

    Cablegasm made easy! This was really satisfying to watch.14:00 if you are doing a retrofit, that's the moment where you pray that your information on where the floor heating is laid in, is accurate

    • @tciproductions
      @tciproductions  Рік тому +1

      Wow I would never have thought of that! In Hawaii, it would be unheard of to have heating under the floor like that. Good point!

    • @LichtTempler
      @LichtTempler 3 місяці тому

      Who would lay a heating in a server room?

    • @Gilgwathir
      @Gilgwathir 3 місяці тому

      ⁠@@LichtTempler That's how this sort of office tower construction works. You just do everything the same on every floor. Each tenant will do their best to destroy what ever plans anybody makes. And you'll have a lot of different tenants over the decades and floors. If the building has floor heating, it's going to be every where, since even the current office walls are temporary compared to the floors and structural walls. If a tenant decides to build a server room, it's their problem. If the floor heating is installed 90° flipped from the plans you are given, everybody quickly has wet problem and arguing starts on who is to blame 😂 Yes, that's experience speaking.

  • @Asbjoern
    @Asbjoern 10 місяців тому +3

    Stellar work! When drilling in the floor, a can of air can clean out the dust a lot better than just using a vacuum. Just make sure to use a straw and cover the hole with the vacuum. Sucks to get a dust facial.

  • @Felix-ve9hs
    @Felix-ve9hs Рік тому +5

    Thanks for sharing, this is an aspect of networking that is rarely shown. :)

  • @rotohcf1400
    @rotohcf1400 Рік тому +3

    I've been in the trade for 20-ish years and yet managed to pick up a trick :) I wish more of us would share our experiences in such detail.

  • @johnevans6451
    @johnevans6451 Рік тому +7

    I was working on my home Dell Network rack, tracing and terminating cables with my son, when this got recommended. Definitely will be trying to implement some of the tips, like grounding my rack and getting some vertical cable management. I also now want the electric screw driver you were using in it, as currently I'm doing every by hand. Finally, I got myself a lot of velcro, so I was proud of myself as you were recommending to use it multiple times.

    • @d00dEEE
      @d00dEEE Рік тому +2

      "I'm doing every by hand." My wrist hurts in sympathy...

    • @jonathang6920
      @jonathang6920 Рік тому +1

      Im not sure about what model his electric screwdriver was, but I have and prefer the metabo model the can be straight or fold in half for a pistol grip. It’s roughly $80 when on sale.

    • @michaeldavid2320
      @michaeldavid2320 Рік тому +1

      The Dewalt one like that is pretty nice. @@jonathang6920

  • @Vatharian
    @Vatharian Рік тому +2

    Thank you so much for your walk-through! I really needed that, and I hoped for a video tutorial like this for years. It's easy to learn if you are starting in this kind of business, but if these tasks gets thrown at you without prior warning, it's hard to find reliable learning source or reference videos.
    Couple thoughts I had:
    - I never thought about using boxes and pulling wires in parallel. I pulled one cable with a cord attached, pulled next cable with second cord attached, pulled next cable with first cord attached, etc. It's so much easier to do this all at once... But I have never done that big of a job myself, so it wasn't obvious to me. Also hard when you hear "we will order cable as you use it" and can't justify ordering 20 boxes of Cat 6A. Aaaah! Stingy bosses!
    - Cable comb - that's absolutely the tool I have been missing! It's easy to 3D print (can't find it locally), and it's a blessing. It would save me SO MUCH TIME!
    - The Hilti concrete nailer absolutely blew my mind. Do you know how HARD the concrete is with compressive force? I actually wonder if you need gun permit for this thing in my country... Otherwise messy job done in a split second.
    - These 45 degree terminals look so much better than anything I have seen in local retailers, and look genuinely easier to terminate. Next time I'll be doing this, I am switching to these!
    And couple of questions:
    1. How often you have to rerun a piece because of manufacturing defect of a cable?
    2. Do you label cables (for customer) mid-run, in important places (like between floors or when all have to go through a fire wall in one place, etc.), or no matter what it's always just the ends?
    3. I noticed, that my cable labels often flake out / wear out (I have Brother handheld) especially where there is lots of flex (like on non-bolted racks), I finally resorted to putting clear heatshrink over them. Little overkill and expensive. Have you had this issue?
    4. What do you think of rack-mounted drawers? They are very popular over music production folks, and I use them to store extra cage nuts, documentation, rack specific stuff, etc., but I heard so many negative comments about them from networking folk, but no concrete arguments, beside "wasting space" (I wouldn't install them in the first place if there wasn't spare room, but that's beside the point).
    5. You threaded all the runs through the rack. That's fine, as long as most of the stuff is 2-post compatible. However, there are more and more full-depth switches, which would block such run if mounted at the top. In such a case, would you use some additional hardware for supporting cable bundles, while it hangs on the side, or is the ladder shelf enough?

    • @tciproductions
      @tciproductions  Рік тому

      You win for largest comment so far. To your questions:
      1) - Never have had that, HOWEVER, if you buy Chinese off brand products, I have had several that were just aluminum coated in copper and those fail every certifier test there is. Careful who you purchase from and test a length of it before deploying.
      2) - I label if I cross a riser closet, but that is about it.
      3) - All labels tend to suck like that, so I wrap them with a clear scotch tape, but shrink wrap works too.
      4) - I have no opinion generally. As I am fond of saying, even if the customer gives me something I hate to see, I tell them how cool it is :). IT staff can be very particular about their racks and equipment so I never criticize. It's their baby, I'm just trying to bring their vision to life.
      5) - Cables in a thick bundle often hold their shape well, but if drooping is an issue, I will add cross bars and other cable supports to assist me. I play it case by case, but a long run with no supports is likely to lose shape.

    • @Vatharian
      @Vatharian Рік тому

      @@tciproductionsHaha! Thanks :)
      Thank you very much for your answers - and again, for great video. Observing how an expert in the field works not only allows to catch nice to haves and good ideas, but also learn good habits.
      1) That's reassuring, it's a great fear of mine. For Cat6/6A it's quality first! If you're splurging at it already no point in going half-way.
      3) Maybe I have worse tape where I live, but it often falls off after few months, so shrink wrap it is. At least now I know it's not me doing something wrong.
      4) That's a good take!

  • @hosseintarighatimomtaz3298
    @hosseintarighatimomtaz3298 28 днів тому +1

    Great video. Nice job❤

  • @idontreadcomics40
    @idontreadcomics40 Рік тому +3

    Appreciate you sharing your knowledge. I always wondered who conducted this work whenever I walked into a server room.

  • @ScottPlude
    @ScottPlude Рік тому +1

    Outstanding video! I appreciate the time you took to show the entire build step by step. I have shared this with other like-minded people.

  • @VagueDustin
    @VagueDustin Рік тому +2

    Incredible and very detailed video, I learned a lot from this. Thank you so much for posting these.

  • @ronaldnaeyaert3653
    @ronaldnaeyaert3653 Рік тому +1

    Great video. I appreciate the detail on bonding the rack.

  • @flashlightfreek
    @flashlightfreek 2 місяці тому +1

    Wow! Thank you so much!! And what ladder is that? :)) Thanks very much!!!

  • @Kevin-rh6zy
    @Kevin-rh6zy Місяць тому

    I like this guy. Cool videos

  • @hulksmash8103
    @hulksmash8103 9 місяців тому +1

    I'm new to the trade. Thanks for sharing your videos

  • @ajschmidt4392
    @ajschmidt4392 4 місяці тому +1

    amazing video. thanks for sharing!

  • @Rockettommy
    @Rockettommy Рік тому +1

    Extremely informative Derek. LOVE TCI's work!!! 🤩

  • @bassman7115
    @bassman7115 Рік тому +1

    Awesome work! Thank you for the tips!

  • @LoycCossou
    @LoycCossou Рік тому +1

    Excellent video, full of details. Thanks, this is gold!

  • @jbaezhernandez
    @jbaezhernandez 7 місяців тому +1

    Nice work 👍

  • @LD1971
    @LD1971 Рік тому +1

    Thank you for video. You did amazing job. 👍

  • @Discgolfingdevin
    @Discgolfingdevin 10 місяців тому +1

    My only thing I would recommend would be to add the ladder rack from the floor up to the other ladder rack. I don’t like zip ties all the way to join it.

  • @FredsTech1
    @FredsTech1 Рік тому +1

    Wonderful video! Thanks!

  • @swiftswamp
    @swiftswamp 10 місяців тому +1

    I love your videos, I would love to know what kinda pricing was done on a job this large! Would be very interesting if thats something youd share in another video.

    • @tciproductions
      @tciproductions  10 місяців тому +1

      It varies by region and contractor but normally I charge per wire and then add on the rack materials and accessories for it. I try to factor in how many days it will take to finish, the daily rate I pay my guys, and so on. I think at least in the US you'd be looking at a range of $150 to $250 per wire for a decent set up. For something high-end, maybe more like $500 to $700 per wire.

  • @mystame
    @mystame Рік тому +1

    At 19:58 you mention you like these modules as they are 45 degrees, do you have a make and model or link you could please?

    • @tciproductions
      @tciproductions  Рік тому +1

      Hi there @mystame, I am using this product in that shot: amzn.to/3SiZezu

  • @GabrielRodriguez-um8fi
    @GabrielRodriguez-um8fi 3 місяці тому +1

    Great vid. My question is, while passing cables through the drop ceiling, what if there is insulation or the ceiling is metal instead of concrete? How would you pass the drops?

    • @tciproductions
      @tciproductions  3 місяці тому

      If the ceiling is metal there are different nails to load into the gun to get the same effect, otherwise you'd want to possibly use self-tapping screws to bite into the metal. A lot of times the metal is sheathed over a concrete slab, and if that's the case you'd need to do a pilot hole and the switch to a tapcon - it'd be a big headache and I would certainly factor it into our labor costs.

  • @nathenn
    @nathenn Рік тому +1

    Amazing vídeo. Thanks

  • @jezusrvd
    @jezusrvd Рік тому +1

    This is great 👍🏽

  • @ValNov
    @ValNov 10 місяців тому +1

    Very interesting. How much this work cost?

  • @mediocreman2
    @mediocreman2 Рік тому +3

    Looks like a good start. Unfortunately your service loops are practically non existent. Always assume there will be a need to relocate panels in the future.
    Also, the best method for patching is to use 1-2 foot cables and go directly to the switch. Putting them into a cable manager just leaves one more thing to trace out if needed. In this case it also blocks the switch ports visibility. But that's probably not your choice.

    • @tciproductions
      @tciproductions  Рік тому +5

      Man, I knew I missed something in my clips. I'm not really a fan of service loops within the rack itself, I normally keep them in the ceiling. When it comes to cable managers, I appear to be in the minority, but I prefer them over the direct to switch patches. A single cross connect or out of position vendor switch will cause an IT person to make spaghetti with it. I give them the managers and teach them to use them, sometimes the rack stays organized longer. Eventually they all turn into a rat's nest.
      There's no end on improvements to be made of course, I would put myself on the middle of the talent spectrum for this work. Some of my colleagues are true artists. If you see anything else I didn't mention throw it out there so folks can learn from my mistakes. Thanks!

  • @UniversaalUniversum
    @UniversaalUniversum 2 місяці тому +1

    Interesting, as i currently understand you only install network.
    I do the same work but for some reason i do all of this:
    Fire alarm systems
    Security systems and access systems
    Video surveillance and video surveillance systems
    Data and telephone networks
    Sound systems and low current works
    Vocational systems
    Perimeter security systems

    • @tciproductions
      @tciproductions  2 місяці тому

      Fire alarm and access controls are separate licensed vocations in Hawaii where I am. Video, phones, and similar stuff all use cat6, so we do install those from time to time as it is the same wire and build out.

  • @IamDoQtorNo
    @IamDoQtorNo Рік тому +1

    Great videos. Where can you get the velcro from?

    • @tciproductions
      @tciproductions  Рік тому

      Its just normal velcro, nothing fancy. Like this one: www.amazon.com/Rip-Tie-Wrap-Strap-Inch-Feet/dp/B07RM5DKBP

  • @TheBird956QC
    @TheBird956QC 9 місяців тому +1

    Regarding grouding, I thought it was sufficient to have a powered device (like a switch) in the rack, since it is already grounded through its power supply. Is the additional ground necessary or simply a nice thing to have?

    • @tciproductions
      @tciproductions  9 місяців тому +2

      The going theory is that if elsewhere in the rack infrastructure, say the cable ladder tray or something, if there is foreign high voltage that somehow gets on there, you want the rack to be grounded so that the breaker trips. If the source of a problem is your own equipment, then the grounded power cords are enough, but sometimes you get "help" from somebody screwing around elsewhere in the space and it touches your network elements and you want to play it safe.

  • @BertPdeboy
    @BertPdeboy Рік тому +1

    very nice!

  • @sovrako50
    @sovrako50 Місяць тому +1

    Which threaded rod hanger are you using to attach to the deck?

    • @tciproductions
      @tciproductions  Місяць тому

      We use the hilti one that is compatible with the BX nailer, this one: www.hilti.com/c/CLS_FASTENER_7135/CLS_FASTENING_ELEMENTS_7135/r10268977

  • @WillCornus
    @WillCornus Рік тому +1

    Hi, did you done some installation in facility where all walls was made from concrete ??

    • @tciproductions
      @tciproductions  Рік тому

      Yes, from time to time it happens. Usually for hole cutting a concrete contractor assists and for anchors we use hilti and masonry drills. I'll try to record one when I get a chance.

    • @WillCornus
      @WillCornus Рік тому

      @@tciproductions I am asking bcs I preparing a network in my flat, and it is littlebit hard to connect sockets to cat6a, as I can not have a big service slack. So there is no room to mistakes :D

  • @shubinternet
    @shubinternet Рік тому +1

    Avery labels? You don't use Brother or Brady? I'm curious to learn why you make that particular choice....

    • @tciproductions
      @tciproductions  Рік тому

      Sometimes its faster to mass print the labels on an 8.5 x 11 sheet vs printing them out in the field, just one more annoying thing to do under a desk. If I were smart I would have pre-labelled my plates back at the office before I deployed them. I like Brady a lot, but have you seen the Epson one? One of my subs has this one and it is pretty sweet: labelworks.epson.com/for-work/printers/lw-px900.html

  • @SPPhotography89
    @SPPhotography89 Рік тому

    That ground prevents the use of the 1U slot on the other side. It could have been drilled on that side, where there would be more space.

  • @labarr1598
    @labarr1598 Рік тому +2

    Nice work! what are you using for your drop ceiling passthrough? is that a specific type of grommet? Excellent work!

    • @tciproductions
      @tciproductions  Рік тому +1

      I will add it to the vid description, that kit is this one here: www.cabletechsolutions.com/4-Inch-Suspended-Ceiling-Cable-Penetration-System

    • @labarr1598
      @labarr1598 Рік тому +1

      @@tciproductions cheers! very clean looking product. Appreciate you sharing!

  • @eryclyons4628
    @eryclyons4628 Рік тому

    I agree with a lot of the critiques by the user eric. I also wanted to add that the amount of your user end terminations aren’t done to BiCSi standards. I was wondering if you or any of your guys have their certifications. Other than that, it was nice to watch.

    • @tciproductions
      @tciproductions  Рік тому

      Can't really dispute anything there. May I inquire what you mean by the amount of end user terminations aren't Bicsi? I have taken some Bicsi courses for fun but we don't need the certs because we aren't a union shop. I can't think of anything that would apply, unless you are referring to the service loops, which I have hidden in the ceiling and didn't really think to film. If not that, could you elaborate? Always looking to up my game.

  • @alexl3146
    @alexl3146 Рік тому

    Amazing incredible work. Thank you for sharing and making these videos, I’m currently learning all of this in school right now. Are you located in California if so and you ever need some help, I’d be more than happy and willing to help and get some hands on experience as well. I just want to learn as much as possible 😅

    • @tciproductions
      @tciproductions  Рік тому +1

      I'm afraid we're in Honolulu, so you'll have to stop by when on vacation :). Glad you are finding this useful.

    • @alexl3146
      @alexl3146 Рік тому +1

      @@tciproductions no worries, I might take you up on that if I ever hit the island. Really great work, keep up all the great content.

  • @kgnia
    @kgnia Рік тому

    Cat 6 ... haven't used it in over 10 years

  • @alphaknite1458
    @alphaknite1458 Рік тому +2

    What is this job called?

    • @tciproductions
      @tciproductions  Рік тому +1

      If you are looking for job listings, you might try something like Structured Cabling Installer or similar. We are all just computer support staff that got on ladders one day, but typically you'd follow the electrician's career path to properly get into this line of work.

  • @BartKus
    @BartKus 11 місяців тому +1

    Fully painted rack resists being grounded :( Bare metal racks FTW there.

    • @tciproductions
      @tciproductions  10 місяців тому

      I got hassled once for not scratching away paint so the bare metal could touch and assist the grounding, now its stuck with me.

  • @Eric-qx1kx
    @Eric-qx1kx Рік тому +4

    Honestly, I didn't love the final result with the cables coming into the rear of the patch panels. Aesthetically it was just OK, especially with using the cable comb, should have looked a little cleaner but maybe you were under time constraints. Moving the vertical manager to the front of the rack and utilizing the rear of it to bring your cables down would have looked nicer IMO. I also probably would not use Tapcons for anchoring the rack down, I think 3/8" or 1/2" wedge or drop in anchors are pretty much industry standard. Overall, I enjoyed the video though, you dont have the typical annoying, perky UA-cam voice...lol....everything is slow and clear, you missed your calling, you would have made a good ESL teacher.

    • @tciproductions
      @tciproductions  Рік тому +14

      I'd put my skill level solidly at the middle/acceptable range but not super good. I have been told by many people to amp up the energy of the videos and act really fake like LTT or Network Chuck, but I can't really act and I hate that stuff too. Appreciate that feedback.

    • @Eric-qx1kx
      @Eric-qx1kx Рік тому +9

      @@tciproductions Oh hell no, not NetworkChuck, I could not watch that, acts like he's tweaking on crack or hyped up on Jolt Cola, or something...lol. For an instructional video, your calm, clear delivery is perfect, gives a person time to process what they are seeing. As is the over all production of the video in general, very professional. I guess a lot of folks have short attention spans and need that hyperactive, fake energy to stay engaged but I could not stand 5 minutes of his video and this 27 minute video flew by for me.

    • @killablaze1830
      @killablaze1830 Рік тому +1

      ​@@tciproductionsWell I love how your videos are!!

  • @jonathang6920
    @jonathang6920 Рік тому +1

    As an 01 electrician (the guys that run the conduit and power wire), while I was impressed by your workmanship, I was ashamed by the conduit work on this job site. Particularly the completely misaligned heights of those sleeves coming up through the floor to the left of the rack.

    • @tciproductions
      @tciproductions  Рік тому

      I really felt for the electrician here, they called them pretty late in the build so they missed out on the roughing in phase. I couldn't have done the work without their help, they really had to work hard. I'm not experienced enough that I would have noticed the sleeves didn't line up, learned something just now :)

  • @Kabodanki
    @Kabodanki Рік тому +1

    You could not have done that better, because it is now done, nothing to do redo, it's all setup and it's all what was asked

  • @cjkokay
    @cjkokay Рік тому

    And so you have a ladder too short for a commercial job. Standing on the top two rungs is dangerous.

    • @MN-Hillbilly
      @MN-Hillbilly Рік тому +1

      And please wear safety glasses when sticking your head above the ceiling grid. In Minnesota the ceiling guys like to stick the end of the grid wire out at a 90 degree angle.

  • @DellsLiveSteamers
    @DellsLiveSteamers Рік тому

    My eye twitches watching you drill the floor mounts because you are not using an OSHA approved silica dust control mechanism. Drills either need to be wet or hepa vac

    • @tciproductions
      @tciproductions  Рік тому +1

      Seems a bit overkill for a tapcon, but I'll look into it.

  • @supernoob5217
    @supernoob5217 Рік тому +1

    wwwwow

  • @vanomel528
    @vanomel528 Рік тому +1

    Is it safe for man to have painted nails?

    • @Iwishiwasflying
      @Iwishiwasflying Рік тому +1

      Yes but tbh who cares. As long as the person does the job correctly it shouldn’t matter

    • @d00dEEE
      @d00dEEE Рік тому +4

      Unless they're being used for a ground point, in which case you want to scrape away the paint to get better contact.

  • @MN-Hillbilly
    @MN-Hillbilly Рік тому

    Ugh, two hole zip ties? I thought only security and fire guys used those. Bro, use tie cleats. The next guy you'd help could be you.

  • @jedprice9122
    @jedprice9122 9 місяців тому

    Drives me fkn nuts when techs call Cable "wires". Its not wire. Sez it right on the box Cat 6 cable. Wire is what you make a fence out of, or what electricians use for a ground, and us when we ground our rack.....we dont pull wire, we pull cable. Wire is one strand, cable is multi strand get it right ffs

  • @janokoariefka
    @janokoariefka 10 місяців тому +1

    Thankyou fr Indonesia