During the Lexaeus fight, he faced backwards during the fires so when the animation ends and the keyblades spin behind Sora he got 2 extra hits from them.
@@personalover9514 That’s why TAS speedruns are a completely separate category. They are a measure of programming skill alongside knowledge of the game. They also help for teaching purposes. You can’t legally count a TAS against a regular speedrun for this exact reason. So doing one and correctly labelling it is not in any way cheating.
I know, but I was doing something called "Personification", something I learned back in middle school. I was treating the TAS as a person for the sake of a joke.
@@ntrg3248 yeah, I doubt that's possible... maybe if a game was running at 30 FPS, but this version runs at 60 FPS... i think it might be possible for someone to do 30 button presses in a second with some incredible reflexes, but definitely not 60. plus it's a matter of hitting multiple buttons that fast, not just one...
Xigbar after taking the 10th Duck Flare and 200th Horizontal Slash to his face: Yeah, now we're talking! Xaldin after witnessing the horror Xigbar went through: There's no fun in this.....
Imagine you were actually friends with some dude for a little while and some kid and his companion doggo and bird just slaughters them like that without ever hitting the ground.
From what i understand, most TAS runs are done by slowing down the gameplay drastically which makes reactions lightning fast when played back at regular speed
Combination of save states/rewind, frame advancement/slo-mo, and various external aids like memory viewers that enable knowing things you shouldn't, but don't at all modify the game, one of the hopes of any great TAS is the possibility of being hardware verified, which gets harder as the console generations go on, both because accurate emulation is harder, and because there's more chaos effects that can induce desynchs, such as load times, but things like DwangoAC's TAS Bot can attempt playback of a TAS on hardware to do such a verification
Yeah, it depends on the optimization level. Like a Mario 64 TAS would be made frame-by-frame because of how much competition there is. Some take so long to make that they get obsolete because a time save is found. These are important though, in the big picture of things.
I used to really enjoy playing kh2 and this popped up on my recommend for some reason but actually having you explain the moves and frame perfect techniques that go into this speed run is absolutely insane. Def worth watching 💪
"You CAN get these times but it's gonna be impossible because you gotta be a god" Bro, you'll be happy to hear Super Mario Bros speedrunners are finally within 1 frame of a TAS run... Soon we'll see the WR it's impossible to beat. Crazy to believe someday speedrun leaderboards will be based on who got the impossible time first.
Isn't it cool what you can do when you can react to things the very frame they happen, view the memory to spot how to manipulate RNG in your favor, and have mastery over time itself to find the most effective tactics that may also coincidentally set up RNG for later fights?
Hey, if it works it works, sometimes a TAS does wild unbelievable shit thats utterly unviable in human hands and warps reality...sometimes they just optimize the existing strategy for violence, whatever looks to have the best results really
He turns sora around during the lexeaus firaga portion because he pauses to continue the combo without finishers. Final form sora's keyblades spin back behind him after firaga, which gives him exactly one tick of damage each pause
Some stuff I learned from competitive smash bros that you can apply to KH2: if you invalidate a single hitbox that stays out for a long period of time, say by guarding or reflect especially, that hitbox is completely nullified and no longer does damage to sora. This is great for those small bits of extra damage. Its especially useful against Data Larxene because her lightning counts as a single continuous hitbox. Thats how the reflect let him hit larxene while she had armor during the lightning.
Ik this is a year ago but, I noticed why the TAS runner spun Sora during Final Form. Like with items (as you mentioned) Sora's keyblades have hit registration during firagra casts. Its noticeable during Demnyx. As FF ends you see the keyblades hit animation as well as Demnyx taking dmg. It's not just for swag but, extra dmg.
He kept zexion staggered due to a property of horizontal slash that makes it if you hit it a certain number of frames after the last one it doesn't trigger their RV overflow.
7:40 isn't berserk what is keeping the stun? Since he's using fatal crest and he's keeping his MP empty, the attack command becomes berserker command, which comes out more fast and gives almost no gap to retaliate
For that Zexion fight, you can abuse Comet or Fantasia and keep opponents in an attack if you equip Berserk Charge and Horizontal Slash (as it also counts as a finisher).
Zexion was because of the frame perfect horizontal slashes it keeps him stun locked im pretty sure, if you dont time them right they will break out and DM. Mr Windy Lances can be locked with horizontals as well
its pretty funny that the game don't keep up with a TAS run in Luxord's fight (1:55) the menu's select option is so fast at the time for the game RC that the drive icon appears in the attack option
Out of pure curiosity: It is possible to take thr floating keyblades of Roxas out if this fight? With like mods and stuff? Or does that just crash the game?
It's a playback of an emulated run that was played frame by frame. This allows someone to do inputs with exact precision, such as hitting a menu input every frame. This is referred to as a TAS (or tool assisted speedrun.) It is mostly used to showcase would could be possible with absolute perfection.
zexion combo happen because he has beserker ability on the keyblade, so he used donalds move getting rid of his MP and that enables beserkers infinite combo he has no finishers
A human is basically using special tools to go through the game in slow motion, frame by frame and specifically choice each and every input that happens on each and every frame of the game then they can basically replay all the inputs to make it play the game
The fuckin menus. So I suspected when I saw the double blizzaga finisher, something I didn't notice earlier because it happened so fucking fast, and I thought he was just showing off... *This bastard is tailoring his moves for each battle in a matter of seconds.*
The first time I beat Xaldin learn jump/Berserk horizontal slash, perhaps I was lucky he never broke it and I didn't use flare, I did took his entire HP no problem, I was very proud because I figure that on my on.
@@BoldandBrash12 Can you read? I didn't say he's bad at it, I just said that people overrate his actual skill level. Even he himself said he isn't the best player but everyone keeps saying he's the best. Don't get me wrong, he's better than me, but he's no Bizkit047 or KBM or Yachi Nanase, who are in my opinion, better than Will.
This QTE is weird. It's like the developers first design it for wielding only one keyblade and then they thought Roxas would be cooler wielding two keyblades
Geez this video with the first battle luxord taught me a lot. My speed run on proud mode especially with roxas and axel is great but this is amazing. My xemnas run is pretty legit too. I feel like mine is a lil bit faster.
KH2FM has no input lag or delay for menuing inputs, you can menu as fast as you can mash which means you can be in and out of menus before the menu finishes animating
So when you say this is a TAS, is a computer doing the whole thing? And if not, what parts is the computer doing and what parts is the player doing? And how is having a computer/tool or whatever not considered cheating? Do you just mean that the coding of the game isn’t altered in any way?
A TAS is just a script playing back a series of inputs devised by humans, like a playback piano, the input record is made via emulation tools like memory viewers(to know the unknowable), save states/rewind(human error still exists, as does experimenting to discover what might change based on decisions), and frame advance/slo-mo(for frame perfect inputs, reactions, etc), but the game itself is not modified, and one of the things a great TAS can hope for is that its possible to be hardware verified, that is, a machine is set up to playback the inputs to a physical console and the TAS hopefully executes as intended... it doesn't always work, and things like disc load times can make it harder to make work, TASes are not meant to be competitive with human executed speedruns, but rather a demonstration of the theoretical optimal potential a game has
A TAS run is simply a computer running a series of inputs. The inputs are arranged by humans with software to help the humans make the series of inputs be frame-perfect. Since humans can create a TAS run of frame-perfect inputs for the entire run, this means that TAS runs can demonstrate theoretically fastest possible runs within the game. Do note while the runs may be considered "theoretically fastest possible" at the time of the run, as new skips and speedrunning strategies are found the "theoretically fastest possible runs" change. Also note that while TAS runs are theoretically possible, it may not be humanely possible or the difficult may make it basically humanely impossible. What I mean by this is TAS runs generally demonstrate what the game mechanics allow. It does not mean it's possible for a human to actually do what was done in the TAS run. It could be physically impossible for a human to replicate in real time or so difficult that it may as well be impossible.
See this might be impressive, but I prefer my Monkey with a typewriter approach where I just keep throwing myself at the bosses without a single clue how they work.
Timestamps
Luxord - 0:58
Axel - 3:39
Zexion - 5:54
Vexen - 8:15
Xigbar - 9:54
Xaldin - 12:24
Xemnas - 14:00
Lexaeus - 19:52
Saix - 22:16
Demyx - 25:46
Marluxia - 29:02
Roxas - 31:01
Larxene - 34:09
I recommend also putting Intro - 0:00 in the description so that the seek bar gets sections
FYI, he skipped Xemnas just to not unequip Berserk.
During the Lexaeus fight, he faced backwards during the fires so when the animation ends and the keyblades spin behind Sora he got 2 extra hits from them.
Thank you
@@Rainout s xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxz,
Bruh how is this TAS guy so good at every game like bruh. Save some skill for the rest of us.
Time stop probably
Yea I think TAS is cheating. He probably advances the game frame by frame to get perfect imputs.
@@personalover9514 No no no, more like ZA WARUDO
although does that still count as cheating? probably, outside sources
@@personalover9514 That’s why TAS speedruns are a completely separate category. They are a measure of programming skill alongside knowledge of the game. They also help for teaching purposes. You can’t legally count a TAS against a regular speedrun for this exact reason. So doing one and correctly labelling it is not in any way cheating.
I know, but I was doing something called "Personification", something I learned back in middle school. I was treating the TAS as a person for the sake of a joke.
It's a small thing, but I like how there's an artwork of each corresponding org member in the right during their fight
Thank you for acknowledging this
yeah, it’s great because I can finally see who’s sora have been hitting under all that flashing lights 🤣
Sora Might not know how to computer but he DEFIENTLY knows how to menu
>defiently
@Darren failed ratio lol
@Darren yes
The computer knows how to Sora
Sora: Hey Kairi sorry but I am busy making friends!
Kairi: But my parents are not home...
Sora: PERFECT KH2 LVL 1 Data Org Speedrun (TAS)
Watching TAS runs always makes me feel like such a noob....
My god this is incredible....
Don't feel that way, it's supposed to be impossible for a human to replicate
@@ntrg3248 not really impossible, more like improbable...
would probably need some insane muscle and photographic memory to be able to do this though.
@@DarkFrozenDepths the menuing alone makes it impossible for a human, because nobody can make individual button presses per frame.
@@ntrg3248 yeah, I doubt that's possible... maybe if a game was running at 30 FPS, but this version runs at 60 FPS...
i think it might be possible for someone to do 30 button presses in a second with some incredible reflexes, but definitely not 60.
plus it's a matter of hitting multiple buttons that fast, not just one...
Theres some things that a tas does that is not possible for humans. Since everything is being preformed frame perfectly
Xigbar after taking the 10th Duck Flare and 200th Horizontal Slash to his face: Yeah, now we're talking!
Xaldin after witnessing the horror Xigbar went through: There's no fun in this.....
Imagine you were actually friends with some dude for a little while
and some kid and his companion doggo and bird just slaughters them like that without ever hitting the ground.
sora may not know how to computer, but computer knows how to sora
It's awesome to see how knowledgeable ninten is on this game. Great stuff ninten and this TAS guy is literally insane
Do jokes like these really stay funny after hearing it for the 100,000th time? Y'all need some new jokes
3:09 luxord: u know the rules?
Sora: *Y E S, I D O*
I am the rules
You know the rules and so do I.
Reminder that Donald is one of the strongest black mages in FF lore/games as not only did he cast Zetaflare, he survived using it. :^)
KH3 isn't Canon to a lot of people, so debatable.
Since when is KH part of FF lore? Lol
@@Arkansym kh3 is lore to everyone wtf are you on
@@Peniiies
Not to me. I personally consider it fanfiction for myself.
@@Arkansym it’s literally made by square enix. what the dick are you on my guy. whatever it is, get off of it.
From what i understand, most TAS runs are done by slowing down the gameplay drastically which makes reactions lightning fast when played back at regular speed
Combination of save states/rewind, frame advancement/slo-mo, and various external aids like memory viewers that enable knowing things you shouldn't, but don't at all modify the game, one of the hopes of any great TAS is the possibility of being hardware verified, which gets harder as the console generations go on, both because accurate emulation is harder, and because there's more chaos effects that can induce desynchs, such as load times, but things like DwangoAC's TAS Bot can attempt playback of a TAS on hardware to do such a verification
Yeah, it depends on the optimization level. Like a Mario 64 TAS would be made frame-by-frame because of how much competition there is. Some take so long to make that they get obsolete because a time save is found. These are important though, in the big picture of things.
TAS is basically a script, where predetermined inputs are fed to the game on a per-frame basis.
I used to really enjoy playing kh2 and this popped up on my recommend for some reason but actually having you explain the moves and frame perfect techniques that go into this speed run is absolutely insane. Def worth watching 💪
"You CAN get these times but it's gonna be impossible because you gotta be a god"
Bro, you'll be happy to hear Super Mario Bros speedrunners are finally within 1 frame of a TAS run... Soon we'll see the WR it's impossible to beat.
Crazy to believe someday speedrun leaderboards will be based on who got the impossible time first.
Holy shit that Zexion combo was so sick
Zexion ascends
imagine the power we could have if Doonald and Goofy worked that well normally...
Doonald
@@alexc6741 Ratiooo
If 10 year old me saw this i would've had a heart attack
Ninten is a reactor now? Oh, how the content is just getting more and more diverse. Subbed.
Wow! This is amazing! I would’ve been so lost without your commentary! Thanks for breaking this technique down🙏
I Have Never Seen A Whole Boss Battle Prepared For In 8 Seconds.
Imagine if this was the canon sora. Xehanort would have given up on his plans right away
It technically is canon sora because he has access to all of these abilities he just needs to put em to use🤷🏾♂️
@@xeno199no it's not.
I feel like ninten will be closest humans get to this
WillJV2:
@@rickywalters7717 willjv2 isnt that good, he just knows the fights well
@@ntrg3248 which means he's good
he's just not exactly a speedrunner
"Because you wouldn't know what's going on with out someone explaining it"
*Anything happens in the speedrun
"I don't know why that happened"
Isn't it cool what you can do when you can react to things the very frame they happen, view the memory to spot how to manipulate RNG in your favor, and have mastery over time itself to find the most effective tactics that may also coincidentally set up RNG for later fights?
It's cool that the TAS strat for Vexen and Larxene are done on console
Hey, if it works it works, sometimes a TAS does wild unbelievable shit thats utterly unviable in human hands and warps reality...sometimes they just optimize the existing strategy for violence, whatever looks to have the best results really
He turns sora around during the lexeaus firaga portion because he pauses to continue the combo without finishers. Final form sora's keyblades spin back behind him after firaga, which gives him exactly one tick of damage each pause
20:03
Sora go BRRRRRRRRRRRRE
Amazing job Ninten :D I learned a lot
I get the feeling that some people in the chat don't actually understand what a TAS is, and think that a real person is doing all this.
Some stuff I learned from competitive smash bros that you can apply to KH2: if you invalidate a single hitbox that stays out for a long period of time, say by guarding or reflect especially, that hitbox is completely nullified and no longer does damage to sora. This is great for those small bits of extra damage. Its especially useful against Data Larxene because her lightning counts as a single continuous hitbox. Thats how the reflect let him hit larxene while she had armor during the lightning.
5:26 Even on 0.25x playback speed on UA-cam it's incredibly fast menuing
Xigbar: you really shouldn't have betrayed us
Sora: THE FLOOR IS LAVA!
5:23 "Hold up gotta change a few things"
Zex’s fight was just hilarious to watch I thought we was doing the trails again like in 2.5 at yinsid tower 😂
Just an FYI Ninten, xemnas weapons are called ethereal blades
Lightsabers
@@pedrogarcia8706 anti-darkness Scimitars
@@pedrogarcia8706 look it up, I found the name while looking through the wiki and stuff
@@ashtonfalkmemphisfortnitea4841 Obvs lightsabers, look at them
With the fact that Disney now owns Star wars could they be called lightsabers in truth?
Ik this is a year ago but, I noticed why the TAS runner spun Sora during Final Form. Like with items (as you mentioned) Sora's keyblades have hit registration during firagra casts. Its noticeable during Demnyx. As FF ends you see the keyblades hit animation as well as Demnyx taking dmg. It's not just for swag but, extra dmg.
"Local Teenager Bullies Cult! Bystanders watch in amusement"
awesome explanation, really enjoy hearing you break down all this stuff i never would’ve picked up on otherwise
Inputs so fast he didn’t even give Luxord time to finish his sentence: “Do you know the ru-“
He kept zexion staggered due to a property of horizontal slash that makes it if you hit it a certain number of frames after the last one it doesn't trigger their RV overflow.
It's just a frame perfect hori slash to keep them stunlocked yea
7:40 isn't berserk what is keeping the stun? Since he's using fatal crest and he's keeping his MP empty, the attack command becomes berserker command, which comes out more fast and gives almost no gap to retaliate
For that Zexion fight, you can abuse Comet or Fantasia and keep opponents in an attack if you equip Berserk Charge and Horizontal Slash (as it also counts as a finisher).
Luxord said it best: "You play the game quite well."
Zexion didn't show him the rule book about TAS
Oh my god, watching Larxene melt is disgusting
And by “disgusting”, you obviously mean “amazing”, right?
Zexion was because of the frame perfect horizontal slashes it keeps him stun locked im pretty sure, if you dont time them right they will break out and DM. Mr Windy Lances can be locked with horizontals as well
Sora if he had access to all of his power from across the games.
youtube must really loves you, the amount of ad on this video is higher then most of whole channels out there
its pretty funny that the game don't keep up with a TAS run
in Luxord's fight (1:55) the menu's select option is so fast at the time for the game RC that the drive icon appears in the attack option
Out of pure curiosity:
It is possible to take thr floating keyblades of Roxas out if this fight? With like mods and stuff? Or does that just crash the game?
Sora in game: CURAGA
Sora in lore:
im shock that this man took literal seconds while it took me a minute to reach the magic menu
This Guy I Insane What The Heck And Especially How Fast He Goes Through His Inventory
It's a playback of an emulated run that was played frame by frame. This allows someone to do inputs with exact precision, such as hitting a menu input every frame. This is referred to as a TAS (or tool assisted speedrun.)
It is mostly used to showcase would could be possible with absolute perfection.
This was so insane I forgot he was level 1 also
Does anyone know where I can find the fights without some guy talking over everything and pausing every 10 seconds?
During this run, I learned how quick the KH2 menu is.
zexion combo happen because he has beserker ability on the keyblade, so he used donalds move getting rid of his MP and that enables beserkers infinite combo he has no finishers
I think they changed it, idk, but when I used Duck Flare on Demyx, it did no damage to the water clones
I didn't understand. Is a human doing the inputs or a pc?
A human is using tools to make the best run possible
its made frame by frame bu a human, but played by a pc
A human is basically using special tools to go through the game in slow motion, frame by frame and specifically choice each and every input that happens on each and every frame of the game then they can basically replay all the inputs to make it play the game
The fuckin menus.
So I suspected when I saw the double blizzaga finisher, something I didn't notice earlier because it happened so fucking fast, and I thought he was just showing off...
*This bastard is tailoring his moves for each battle in a matter of seconds.*
The first time I beat Xaldin learn jump/Berserk horizontal slash, perhaps I was lucky he never broke it and I didn't use flare, I did took his entire HP no problem, I was very proud because I figure that on my on.
Xigbar fight: KH2 but if Xigbar breathes he dies.
the hardest thing to believe here is that donald follows orders and is useful lol
5:25 That's how I see " fast menuing " haha, I'm still incredibly slow
Why does he use the frost boost keyblade fighting luxord?
Xigbar was the hardest one of them for me when playing KH2 on PS2.. And this dude is like "baby game ez lol"
This is the KH equivalent of DMC DMD, No damage speedruns.
Lore accurate sora
Please tell me how to skip and rewind frame by frame on youtube videos
While the vid is paused, press . And ,
Gotta love a great TAS
Willjv2 is another Beast at kingdom hearts.
No, he just knows the fights, literally anyone can do what will does if they just keep trying
It’s still cool.
@@BoldandBrash12 Can you read? I didn't say he's bad at it, I just said that people overrate his actual skill level. Even he himself said he isn't the best player but everyone keeps saying he's the best. Don't get me wrong, he's better than me, but he's no Bizkit047 or KBM or Yachi Nanase, who are in my opinion, better than Will.
@@ntrg3248 idk who will is, but Yachi's a keyblade master
@@joketer34 indeed
It's like watching kh 3 sora fight these bosses
Isn’t a 5 hit combo what you will get with 2 combo +? Reflect - Hit - CP Reflect - CP Hit - Finisher?
Oh fuck it’s a 6 hit combo
This QTE is weird. It's like the developers first design it for wielding only one keyblade and then they thought Roxas would be cooler wielding two keyblades
It's like watching Sora in Elite Smash
Where can you find the remnants of the org XIII?
I mean in which world?
Btw I’m not talking about the data org in the radiant garden
do you mean absent silhouettes? if so: Beasts room, isle de muerta, cave of the dead....caverns? peddlers shop (eventually) and sandlot (eventually)
@@coolghoul8515 well yes the absent silhouettes
I just can't get into Kh3 like I could get into Kh2, love this game.
do you now
As i watch this all i am thinking is. "Why do i play these games? I play them for fun right?"
Facing backwards probably makes firaga hit earlier one more time.
Geez this video with the first battle luxord taught me a lot. My speed run on proud mode especially with roxas and axel is great but this is amazing. My xemnas run is pretty legit too. I feel like mine is a lil bit faster.
Uhh, wut, bruh this is faster then world records do Data Xemmy on Lv1 Crit
2KHz still only has 86 subscribers. Guys, subscribe to him his TASes are sick
Me watching a Kingdom Hearts video
"Ah yes quick rc means quick roman cancel"
Tas runs are insane!!
Don't worry Zexion, Sora will let you know when its your turn to play just like you did me
36:24 Nice
boss buzzsaw goes 'BRRRRRRRRRR'
I think he knew Luxor’s special rules
What in the world? How did he insert those menu commands that fast?
KH2FM has no input lag or delay for menuing inputs, you can menu as fast as you can mash which means you can be in and out of menus before the menu finishes animating
Tas plays like he’s the main character
I wonder if the RC to take Oblivion and Oathkeeper from Roxas also gives Sora Form Boost and Drive Boost.
It doesn't
So when you say this is a TAS, is a computer doing the whole thing? And if not, what parts is the computer doing and what parts is the player doing? And how is having a computer/tool or whatever not considered cheating? Do you just mean that the coding of the game isn’t altered in any way?
A TAS is just a script playing back a series of inputs devised by humans, like a playback piano, the input record is made via emulation tools like memory viewers(to know the unknowable), save states/rewind(human error still exists, as does experimenting to discover what might change based on decisions), and frame advance/slo-mo(for frame perfect inputs, reactions, etc), but the game itself is not modified, and one of the things a great TAS can hope for is that its possible to be hardware verified, that is, a machine is set up to playback the inputs to a physical console and the TAS hopefully executes as intended... it doesn't always work, and things like disc load times can make it harder to make work, TASes are not meant to be competitive with human executed speedruns, but rather a demonstration of the theoretical optimal potential a game has
A TAS run is simply a computer running a series of inputs. The inputs are arranged by humans with software to help the humans make the series of inputs be frame-perfect.
Since humans can create a TAS run of frame-perfect inputs for the entire run, this means that TAS runs can demonstrate theoretically fastest possible runs within the game.
Do note while the runs may be considered "theoretically fastest possible" at the time of the run, as new skips and speedrunning strategies are found the "theoretically fastest possible runs" change.
Also note that while TAS runs are theoretically possible, it may not be humanely possible or the difficult may make it basically humanely impossible. What I mean by this is TAS runs generally demonstrate what the game mechanics allow. It does not mean it's possible for a human to actually do what was done in the TAS run.
It could be physically impossible for a human to replicate in real time or so difficult that it may as well be impossible.
Sora can wave dash smash bro confirm haha
#Sora4Smash
You just HAD to open yer mouth, had ya?
@@demonking41-l8j haha good you sound mad that he’s in
Marluxia: “I am your search history.”
This is clickbait theres no cat ears in this video
I forgot this was before I got the headset too lol
Unwatchable
basically lf Sora tried his hand at Marvel 3
This was amazing.
I loved the Roxas fight!!
KH2FM is the perfect game, and I dont care if anyone disagrees.
😂😂
This is incredibly interesting.
sora cant use computers for shit but they sure can use him
See this might be impressive, but I prefer my Monkey with a typewriter approach where I just keep throwing myself at the bosses without a single clue how they work.
It would be interesting to see this but in level 99