Pulled Neldor out of a pink shard some time ago and immediately found use in shortening most dungeons, and of course FK with him. I just pulled Criodan yesterday and I'm psyched to see them work together...Just gotta get the damn silver together to do it. Edit: Neldor alone, in just some mediocre gear, has taken my super casual, skeleton crew, noobish mid-game account from FK Normal 13 to Hard 2, Ice Golem from 20 to Hard 4, Dragon from being stuck at 25 to Hard 7, and I think every affinity Iron Twins at this point has been dragged up from 9 to 12-15. Like, just an explosion in progression. His speedy sword work also cut down top levels of potion keeps to about 1 min each, although Artak was already easily soloing 1-15 in
If you have her, Zinogre has two 4x hits (A2 [+30% Team SPD] & A3 [Dec.Att & Leach]) and is Shadowkin, so when Mikage does an A1, Zinogre will do her 3x hit A1 (which usually places Weaken). Also 3x hit on each Ally Attack. She was built for F.Kn & F.Kn(H)
So glad to see this video! After watching one of your recent videos raving about Neldor, I somehow managed to pull him and he immediately went onto my FK team. Good to know I now also have someone who can help me get past Bommal.
I pulled Neldor twice. Im mostly FTP. Any suggestions on how to build them? I think the answer is "Absolutely NOT", but should I just build out one of them and use the other to book the other? Is it worth building them both to use together on Fire Knight Hard?
you could have Mikage transform and she can control the waves with stuns. then you can replace Criodan, not sure with who, but not having freeze on the waves could slightly increase the kill time.
using 2 ally attackers is kind of overkill to break the shield and get some freezes out without phantom touch. the key is to break 20 shield (the 21 hit will remove shield then attempt to apply debuff unless a skill says other) stacks before Gnut use his a1 on the ally atk and before he gets his turn (start with a1). If you replace longbeard with any 3 hitter and make gnut the slowest and last for ally atk. your ally attacker have to be the second slowest. If you use fatman you will break 20 shield up front before gnut have done a single hit and if you use mikage it is 21. Neldor should be your fastest going a2 followed by a3
Ive got a Neldor in my hard FK team, along with Razelvarg, Stag Knight, Lonatharil and Gnut. Its not 100% at level 10 but i can farm hard 6 with a 100% win rate
Not entirely useless but it's nearly impossible to do Fk hard 10 without Gnut. You have to compensate so much with more speed on anybody, more freeze champs so less dmg and higher levels of Phantom Touch to even remotely stand a chance...
I got (fairly) lucky with my free prism pull, got Neldor but I have yet to build him out. Definitely a great champion and he'll be helping me with FW until I manage to get a decent FK hard team together.
Love that champs like these have far more utility than something like 50% of ALL legendaries in the game. Really shows Plariums knowledge of their own game.
I use Yakarl with Neldor or Blizaar with Neldor with around 340 speed but also Alaz the sunbearer for the counter attack, just in case. Most of the time it's not needed.
For Fk hard 10 specificially you're looking for ally attackers who let everybody join, so hit-wise Fahrakin is worse than Longbeard, Mikage, Cardiel and Lonatharil cuz he himself doesn't join the ally attack. After that or on lower stages like Fk hard 6 utility like def-down on A1 (Fahrakin) or a 100% weaken on A2 (Longbeard) or a Crit Dmg buff (Mikage/Lonatharil) is the most important thing for ally attackers. Would not recommend other ones, they're too unreliable for this content.
@@timkopfermann9479 Super informative reply. Thank you very much. Will get started building a FK team with Neldor, Criodan, Mikage, Gnut and Lonatharil.
Without Gnut it's nearly impossible. My current team is Zinogre lead, Lonatharil as ally attack, Criodan, Neldor and Yakarl as freezers. I don't have Gnut or Mikage, also 20-40 speed more on any of my champs + 30% speed aura with higher levels of Phantom Touch and my run time on FK hard 10 is 6-7 Min with a 50% fail rate. Everything skill/hit wise is optimized and I can't really get it to work consistently. Hope this answers your question...
Just got him today after trying for Trunda and failing lol. I have Criodan and have been a big fan...is it weird that I feel like I'd be cheating on Criodan if I built Neldor??
I pulled both of them out of ancients while spamming for nergigante archer. I've yet to build them but i think their kits synergize so well together that it'd be a shame not to run both if you can. This means i have to add an extra champ to train up instead of just picking one 😭
I feel like the fact that i missed out on Gnut cause i wasnt playing around that time really threw me back so much, cause either you have him and speed run every boss or you dont and have no chance in achieving farmable times at even low level dungeons....
Don’t let the fomo get to you. That’s exactly what plarium wants. And just farm over night. Doesn’t matter how long the run last since your gonna be asleep 😂 the biggest thing is your runs are consistent
a) i do not want to farm overnight. a game that makes me do this is either a badly designed game or i am too adicted to it. so thats a no for me. b) i am not even trying to be FK hard. i can farm normal 20 fast and 100%, thats enough for me. for FK hard i am missing the champs. maybe i could clear hard 1, but the fact 10 is so out of reach takes every motivation away. @@bdiax
HH can you do a video about crit damage and crit rate how to build a champion to give max damage with those 2 elements together and what percentage we need
I have 2 Criodans & have already built Neldor.......BUT, its worth it to see if a double Criodan team may do better. Neldor is SSSSOOOOOOO squishy, usually dies if everything doesn't go absolutely perfect. Criodan seems to be able to take a hit before checking out. Idk will tell updated with results once the 2nd Criodan is built 🤓
Just pulled a five star soul for him today..and a no no selling essence for a eternal soul stone..but I got a six star Driad soul. So hey worth the risk,today!
@@rabihurmiz5306thanks for the answer, I knew freeze helps but I always saw bombs detonate anyway, so I never knew it halfs the damage and I've never come around to reading about it.
If I had gotten Gnut this would be easier, but I do have Yakarl, Wuzgar, Mikage, Criodan and a couple of other options like this dude or another ally ark champ. So I’m On my way! Lol
this team looks like it will have very low winrate. your criodan got 2 relentless procs and still the team barely managed to keep the turn meter down at the beginning of the boss fight. just so people dont get baited and waste resources, its very hard to keep the boss TM down on hard 10 with this team and most likely will not be 100% winrate
i HATE to be this guy...but these speed stats plus acc...plus damage stats to all reach for waves and boss are bonkers!!!!! I have a pretty decent account.... 10sec Hard Spider 10 team, 1 min Iron Twins 15....1 min Hard Dragon 10...2 min Hard Ice Golem 10...Sand Devils 25.....1 key all lvl's in Clan Boss....All hard DoomTower lvls completed...and i can't even come close to these stats on these 5 champs!!! it's CRAZY!!! =/
Neldor has so much more utility than angar and fortus who are void legos even after buffs😂
I use Neldor with high survivability and accuracy and forego the damage aspect. great for Fire Knight paired with Gnut and Criodan
Pulled Neldor out of a pink shard some time ago and immediately found use in shortening most dungeons, and of course FK with him. I just pulled Criodan yesterday and I'm psyched to see them work together...Just gotta get the damn silver together to do it.
Edit: Neldor alone, in just some mediocre gear, has taken my super casual, skeleton crew, noobish mid-game account from FK Normal 13 to Hard 2, Ice Golem from 20 to Hard 4, Dragon from being stuck at 25 to Hard 7, and I think every affinity Iron Twins at this point has been dragged up from 9 to 12-15. Like, just an explosion in progression.
His speedy sword work also cut down top levels of potion keeps to about 1 min each, although Artak was already easily soloing 1-15 in
If you have her, Zinogre has two 4x hits (A2 [+30% Team SPD] & A3 [Dec.Att & Leach]) and is Shadowkin, so when Mikage does an A1, Zinogre will do her 3x hit A1 (which usually places Weaken). Also 3x hit on each Ally Attack. She was built for F.Kn & F.Kn(H)
Literally got Neldor on my main account a few days back and I've been waiting for someone to get a video out about him. LETS GOO !
Does double neldor work for his passive? Like will one trigger the other one? Missing criodan but have like 3 neldors lol
So glad to see this video! After watching one of your recent videos raving about Neldor, I somehow managed to pull him and he immediately went onto my FK team. Good to know I now also have someone who can help me get past Bommal.
I pulled Neldor twice. Im mostly FTP. Any suggestions on how to build them? I think the answer is "Absolutely NOT", but should I just build out one of them and use the other to book the other? Is it worth building them both to use together on Fire Knight Hard?
you could have Mikage transform and she can control the waves with stuns. then you can replace Criodan, not sure with who, but not having freeze on the waves could slightly increase the kill time.
using 2 ally attackers is kind of overkill to break the shield and get some freezes out without phantom touch. the key is to break 20 shield (the 21 hit will remove shield then attempt to apply debuff unless a skill says other) stacks before Gnut use his a1 on the ally atk and before he gets his turn (start with a1). If you replace longbeard with any 3 hitter and make gnut the slowest and last for ally atk. your ally attacker have to be the second slowest. If you use fatman you will break 20 shield up front before gnut have done a single hit and if you use mikage it is 21. Neldor should be your fastest going a2 followed by a3
Ive got a Neldor in my hard FK team, along with Razelvarg, Stag Knight, Lonatharil and Gnut. Its not 100% at level 10 but i can farm hard 6 with a 100% win rate
What happens if I were to use two of these in my FK runs (cuz I got a second one today actually), is it possible to chainattack through their passive?
each one's a1 can proc the passive of the others and thats it. i got 3.
Did it work?
@@DemonicEmperor2023 counterattacks cannot trigger other countrrattacks as far as i an concerned
@@frickxnas precisely why it wont work ! GNUT is required !
If we don't have Gnut are Criodan & Neldor useless? We can get these epics on progressive chance but Gnut requires about 1000 ancients.
Not entirely useless but it's nearly impossible to do Fk hard 10 without Gnut.
You have to compensate so much with more speed on anybody, more freeze champs so less dmg and higher levels of Phantom Touch to even remotely stand a chance...
A lot slower without
Would multiple neldors work?
I got (fairly) lucky with my free prism pull, got Neldor but I have yet to build him out. Definitely a great champion and he'll be helping me with FW until I manage to get a decent FK hard team together.
Same thing happened to me. Didn’t have him before and definitely wanted him.
Insane epic. Does his passive proc for any other bosses besides fk hard?
maxed out neldor during the astreon event. forgot why i wanted him, this video will be a good watch
Love that champs like these have far more utility than something like 50% of ALL legendaries in the game. Really shows Plariums knowledge of their own game.
I'm curious if neldor, criodan, and gory would be a freeze meta.
Is 300 speed really required? Or can we run like 260-270 speed?
I use Yakarl with Neldor or Blizaar with Neldor with around 340 speed but also Alaz the sunbearer for the counter attack, just in case. Most of the time it's not needed.
Would Yakarl work well with neldor and criodan? I just pulled neldor and already have criodan and Yakarl
Yeah he would
Don't have Longbeard. Will Fahrakin the Fat or Lonatharil work just as well?
Yes just need ally atk
For Fk hard 10 specificially you're looking for ally attackers who let everybody join, so hit-wise Fahrakin is worse than Longbeard, Mikage, Cardiel and Lonatharil cuz he himself doesn't join the ally attack.
After that or on lower stages like Fk hard 6 utility like def-down on A1 (Fahrakin) or a 100% weaken on A2 (Longbeard) or a Crit Dmg buff (Mikage/Lonatharil) is the most important thing for ally attackers.
Would not recommend other ones, they're too unreliable for this content.
@@timkopfermann9479 Super informative reply. Thank you very much. Will get started building a FK team with Neldor, Criodan, Mikage, Gnut and Lonatharil.
Can you please advise if its possible to replace Gnut?
u can but the run will take like 8 minutes
Without Gnut it's nearly impossible.
My current team is Zinogre lead, Lonatharil as ally attack, Criodan, Neldor and Yakarl as freezers.
I don't have Gnut or Mikage, also 20-40 speed more on any of my champs + 30% speed aura with higher levels of Phantom Touch and my run time on FK hard 10 is 6-7 Min with a 50% fail rate.
Everything skill/hit wise is optimized and I can't really get it to work consistently.
Hope this answers your question...
Gnut is mainly there for boss damage, Yakarl can replace but adds minutes to the run
Just got him today after trying for Trunda and failing lol.
I have Criodan and have been a big fan...is it weird that I feel like I'd be cheating on Criodan if I built Neldor??
I pulled both of them out of ancients while spamming for nergigante archer. I've yet to build them but i think their kits synergize so well together that it'd be a shame not to run both if you can.
This means i have to add an extra champ to train up instead of just picking one 😭
It feels wrong to not use double Gnut in this situation, but who would you sub him out for?
@tommy5cent drop Creo for 2nd Gnut. Gnut's A1 is 100%...plus another A3 Gnut smashes...boss will be dead so fast.
I feel like the fact that i missed out on Gnut cause i wasnt playing around that time really threw me back so much, cause either you have him and speed run every boss or you dont and have no chance in achieving farmable times at even low level dungeons....
Don’t let the fomo get to you. That’s exactly what plarium wants. And just farm over night. Doesn’t matter how long the run last since your gonna be asleep 😂 the biggest thing is your runs are consistent
a) i do not want to farm overnight. a game that makes me do this is either a badly designed game or i am too adicted to it. so thats a no for me. b) i am not even trying to be FK hard. i can farm normal 20 fast and 100%, thats enough for me. for FK hard i am missing the champs. maybe i could clear hard 1, but the fact 10 is so out of reach takes every motivation away.
@@bdiax
thats not true, people where speed farming dungeons well before gnut came out
You don’t need Gnut for low level dungeons.
@@SirChubblesSteen what is low level? Is hard 1 low level for you?
HH can you do a video about crit damage and crit rate how to build a champion to give max damage with those 2 elements together and what percentage we need
I also use yakarl; great freezes and good dmg
Looks dodgy with initial freezes. Is it 100%?
Has been yesterday
very cool I have the same team but instead of neldor and criodan, I have yakarl and razelvarg
Will I still be able to fuse the legendary in the mikage fusion if I use Tatsu and the dwarf one that I pulled with shard?
Yes, once you make them fully ascended and level 60
yeas but fuse them first before mikage lol
I have 2 Criodans & have already built Neldor.......BUT, its worth it to see if a double Criodan team may do better. Neldor is SSSSOOOOOOO squishy, usually dies if everything doesn't go absolutely perfect.
Criodan seems to be able to take a hit before checking out. Idk will tell updated with results once the 2nd Criodan is built 🤓
Just pulled a five star soul for him today..and a no no selling essence for a eternal soul stone..but I got a six star Driad soul. So hey worth the risk,today!
Howler passive would be massive here to help damage on waves
Feels like the run is going to fail if the decrease speed gets resisted.
Is neldor better than yakarl in this team?
Better for boss, weaker for waves. If no Mikage the might be problems with waves without yakarl
What does freeze to do bommaals bomb?
half dmg
@@rabihurmiz5306thanks for the answer, I knew freeze helps but I always saw bombs detonate anyway, so I never knew it halfs the damage and I've never come around to reading about it.
I really wish they would add crit rate to the arena bonuses
I literally pulled him yesterday
uhhhhhhuuuuuuuuulllll, epics rules!
Go Hades. Nutty idea: Fahrakkin + Shirimani + Criodan + Neldor + Yakarl.
... and without a GNUT, it would never work !
Perfectly made mechanics from Plarium !
If I had gotten Gnut this would be easier, but I do have Yakarl, Wuzgar, Mikage, Criodan and a couple of other options like this dude or another ally ark champ. So I’m On my way! Lol
Neldor Rizzblade screams HFK!
OMG 293 spd That's insane speed
Man he is on progressive chance rn but have no shards I wish I got him instead of Stag knight
But no need to be greedy too 😅
Unless you’re solely looking to do FK hard, stag knight is much better
this team looks like it will have very low winrate. your criodan got 2 relentless procs and still the team barely managed to keep the turn meter down at the beginning of the boss fight. just so people dont get baited and waste resources, its very hard to keep the boss TM down on hard 10 with this team and most likely will not be 100% winrate
i HATE to be this guy...but these speed stats plus acc...plus damage stats to all reach for waves and boss are bonkers!!!!! I have a pretty decent account.... 10sec Hard Spider 10 team, 1 min Iron Twins 15....1 min Hard Dragon 10...2 min Hard Ice Golem 10...Sand Devils 25.....1 key all lvl's in Clan Boss....All hard DoomTower lvls completed...and i can't even come close to these stats on these 5 champs!!! it's CRAZY!!! =/
Neldor, Criodan, Tormin, Gnut - the sub zero team
I just pulled my last sacred trying for a neldor and got a criodan instead. Lol.
i pulled him 10 minutes before the video was posted
fate is sometimes funny
Neldor is so freaking GOOD!
alure sounds good duo
Use mikage in her second form for the waves
Pulled 10 epics from ancients during the "x25". Yup, not a single Neldor. Maybe someday.
Ha, and here I was planning to feed him 😂
I used neldor as food on my ftp
Mikage with Zinogre
I got Neldor on one of my initial three, too many good champions to stop using referral accounts, would've been cool had I got him on my main.
I got his 3 star soul, just don't have him 🥹