Climate Negotiation Crisis: Will COP28 be a giant mess?
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- Опубліковано 25 чер 2024
- It's no secret that COP climate negotiations often disappoint. But the COP28 talks in Dubai in the United Arab Emirates (UAE) are off to a bad start... before they've even started. From fears about the location, to frustration of the appointment of oil man Sultan al Jaber as president, COP28 is off to a bad start before it's even started. This is ClimateAdam's COP28 explained!
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COP 28 Summaries
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Reaction to appointment
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Wikipedia greenwashing
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But his emails!
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Phase down
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Tripling renewables
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Loss & Damage
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Phasing down
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Sultan Al Jaber photo by Arctic Circle
Power plant demolition by Port of San Diego
Youth Strike 4 Climate: London by ReelNews
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COP photo from Presidencia de la República Mexicana - Наука та технологія
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Focus on creation of new technologies which are cheaper energy, then greedy capitalism proactively makes the change! Regulation increases costs, destabilizes economies & threatens national security. Graphene filters can be used to get heavy water from the ocean for "AHWR" Thorium reactors to provide electricity at 70% cheaper than fossil fuel energy. Nuclear then can then be used to make Red Hydrogen fuel. 700bar tanks are now carbon fiber & light weight. (FCEVs) are now far more efficient, a fraction of the weight of Lithium battery electric, with 3 times the range & 2000hp! Tesla, Toyota & Porche will be coming out with hydrogen combustion engines in 2024.
I'm in an energy and environmental policy grad program and they asked us if we wanted to go to COP28 and we were all like...ahhhhh, nahhhh I'd rather do something useful
What's something you learned that is not widely known and should be?
Like what? I haven't hear any actually useful plans yet.
It is useful..... for all the money and power brokers that is. That's what this whole thing is about. As for any sort of climate control.... you already know its impossible... and EVEN IF IT WAS possible... mother nature will override everything in a day!
Interesting. Even though it might not feel like it is useful to go to these kind of happenings, I actually heard from a decision maker (who was in Glasgow at COP26) that what happens on the streets outside of the COP actually impacts what happens in the decision rooms. This year the COP will be in an oil state hard to get to by train so I see why many people boycott it, but I do think it can be useful to make your voice heard close to the negotiation rooms.
@@astrid.erikssontropp I had a lot of fun in protests the multiple day or opened ended the better. If just plan to return home doing shopping in the way for muesli and fresh ink pen... don't leave normal space.
Feel strange think my left wing days behind... right wing protests upset authorities more now just my luck 🦭
Gosh, I worked on an architectural project in Abu Dhabi and I never met more hypocrytical people than the clients from Abu Dhabi- they didn't give a damn F about the sustainability of the project but yet they tried to promote it as the most sustainable thing ever. So happy that the project died before it really started.
US Congress: “you want $100 billion? Pshhh that’s nothing, what for?”
Poor countries: “to compensate for your damage to the environment.”
Congress: “Oh no I meant what do we get out of it? Political sway? Military base? New market access?”
Poor countries: “it’s to pay for your own mistakes…”
Congress: “Oh boy you don’t get how this works do you… why don’t you come back to us when you have something to offer.”
'Nothing wrong wit charity so long as ends up in your pocket'
Ferengi Rules of Acquisition
Takes stiff back to demand money and not be offering anything new.
Pat your pockets as if looking for something to give and keep walking past the persons experiencing homeless is typical
Good thought, but if i were a head of a poor country would have agreed to any of these terms for $100 bn funding!
The Multi National Companies that fled to China & third world countries to avoid & evade tax& climate laws should pay for the pollution that led to SARS/COVID.
Oops
Planet earth goes through many changes over millions of years. High co2 to high o2 just ask a geologist. We worry about things that will happen naturally with or without mankind. If you want to help plant a grass field it will suck up more co2 than a tree.
One thing is clear, we should phase up such excellent informative videos! Thanks Adam ;)
de sages paroles 😌
@@orphax1925 Hehe, les fans de Climate Adam se retrouvent ;)
The ultimate irony with the UEA being one of the worlds largest oil producers. A complete waist of time, completely ineffective the greenwash conversion.
Admire your optimism but, with respect, I am not convinced that you are at all hopeful. Our UK Prime Minister recently announced funding for further fossil fuel exploration and nowhere does one sense any real investment in this issue within any leading economy. I just feel so sad and angry for my grandchildren
“Nothing happens” because their real objective is to use your fear to make themselves richer at your expense.
COP1: 360 ppm CO2, COP28: 420 ppm CO2. Nuff said.
Bingo!
@@freeheeler09 and we are lucky it isn't 550
Can we talk about how cryosphere researchers are insisting that 2C must be taken off the table? At around 1.7C we would be expecting full loss of summer sea ice in the Arctic. If we keep temperatures to 1.5C we will still lose about 40% of permafrost. Every tenth of a degree above that we keep losing more and more permafrost. There’s about 1.5 trillion tons of carbon locked up in permafrost and it really needs to stay that way.
1.5c is already off the table. We have already pumped too much into the air to stop 1.5c.
Everyone forgets how the methane got there.
Poles were viable parts of biosphere until were frozen and the vegetal matter was trapped and couldn't properly rot/eaten by decomposers
You'd notice the difference between that form of earth and ours today from orbit but it was a functional biosphere
I'm still hoping for +5 degrees C
@@Bookhermit +4 by 2150-2200AD
I feel is good balance of speed and depth 👌
What is a cop? A cop puts you in a cell. Cells are the basic building blocks of all living things.
Mitochondria are the powerhouse of the cell
Paris agreement and IPCC: 1,5C is achievable...
Reality: 1,54C this year (10 months so far)...
I'll be going to COP28 (oof), and you've explained it really well! They're such hopeless environments but we can't afford to abandon them completely - we have to snag whatever we can get:/
I think that's an excellent summary: they're really rubbish, but we still need to make the absolute most of them that we can.
'Never have I ever felt so hopeless for my endeavors as when I met those that shared them'
"Shared" is being used very generously... COP is for politicians & capitalists to get together & greenwash their crimes against nature.
Time to change endeavors to something more useful perhaps?
I love how even taken out of context, what is said here about cops still stands true.
There hasn't been a moment of my life where I've been this dejected. I've been pushing a message of hope for 20 years now, since I got out of school and saw where society was heading. Since then, things have only became worse, and now there's even an entire misinformation movement trying to undermine our response to some of the largest challenges our species has ever faced. And time has run out. I say this on my channel all the time, but we may be the most important generations of humans to ever exist.
What we do, how we respond, will literally determine if there is human civilization in the future. We've had many civilization collapses in our past (tens of thousands of them) but never before have they been on a global level. And never before have we been faced with not just a single existential threat (usually drought), but multiple, all at the same time, many exacerbating other ones, and often the solutions to each one being mutually exclusive with the solutions to others. For example, decarbonizing to save climate change create increased energy and resource demands, which exacerbates resource shortages, which impacts food production and global transport, which impacts global equity, which impacts climate refugees, which impacts economic crises, which impacts financial policy, which impacts energy investment, etc.
Having this COP be completely hijacked by big oil, has me even more dejected than Glasgow, which itself had more oil and gas lobbyists than any other category in attendance. I was skeptical about UAE hosting, but after seeing the president of COP28 making backroom oil deals... the entire system is absolutely broken, and it's being laid out for all to see. Combine that with Biden going "nah, got other things to do" and not attending, I'm just so incredibly out of words dejected.
At least there's 1 silver lining to all this.... we can now all clearly see that NOTHING is going to change outside of massive societal revolt. No leader, no government, no international panel is going to reverse this.
Did you want a global strike? Because this is how you get a global strike.
It will be a "Cop out 28" like all the rest...A distraction, something bright and shiny to give the people something to focus their attention on while they carry on business as usual.
All these ridiculous cop summits must have created 28 yrs. worth of global warming all on their own, and achieved nothing.
We need a predictable, escalating, global carbon dumping fee (OK - 'tax'). Shift the economics. Harness market innovation.
yes, but there's no one to administer it transparently and enforce it fairly, eliminating the frauds, the totally ineffective stuff, greenwashing, and double counting.
Carbon tax only works where there’s a viable alternative. Otherwise, it’s just a cost increase. (Read Simon Sharpe’s excellent “Five Times Faster” for a good critique of carbon tax as a solution.)
@@russmarkham2197 Sure, it won't be perfect. But when the price of everything fossil-fuel-based begins to climb, it will change decisions at every level.
@davestagner It seems to me that there are plenty of alternatives. They just aren't being chosen because they are viewed as too expensive. I looked up the book. It looks very interesting. Thanks for the recommendation.
@@barry28907 I think a lot more these days about how to get alternatives off the ground in the face of incumbent resistance. As Sharpe points out, in the early stages, subsidy works far better than market-shifters like carbon tax. Back when solar cost $3/kWh (20 years ago), no amount of carbon tax would have made it competitive with coal at 10c/kWh. Subsidies built utterly unprofitable solar panels, which got the manufacturing learning curve going. Once it got to be self-sustaining, it solved its own cost issues very quickly. Now, solar costs 2c/kWh and doesn’t need any subsidy at all - it’s growing as fast as the grid can handle, because it’s the cheapest solution. That’s because solar panels are incredibly simple devices. It’s basically just a window with some silicon wafers and a bit of wiring glued on. Most of the material is merely glass, aluminum, and plastic. There’s no moving parts and no chemical reactions. The better we get at making those silicon wafers, the cheaper it gets - and that’s mostly a matter of making lots of them, to learn an improve, because the materials aren’t fundamentally expensive. We have at least a decade, maybe longer, before prices truly bottom out on solar. Compare that to combustion, which we’ve been refining for over 100 years. Combustion engines are limited by their complexity (hundreds or thousands of moving parts), and the violent forces they contain - we’re literally trapping thousands of explosions a minute. They’ll never get cheaper or better than they are now.
Funny how in a few decades the summer of 2023 will be looked back on as a beautiful, cool, enjoyable time. "Those were the days".
I don’t think the arctic ice has a few decades left
Hi Adam! Awesome content, as always. Thank you very much for sharing your knowledge, experiences and views, I very much appreciate it! ❤
Also, I would love to know climate scientists' impressions - and most of all, see some good ol' data - about the role played by war industry on the climate crisis. Talking to a friend the other day, we came to discuss this but I felt a lack of bigger picture data on the impacts of war weaponry on climate in terms of emissions, given we have at least 2 big wars going on right now with concerns about nuclear bombs and biological warfare. I would love to hear something from you on this topic! Thanks again for the awesome work you do. Cheers from Brazil ❤
Really important question! Thanks for asking. Think I might just have to make a vid on it.
As an American, I think it’s important that you not take ANYTHING the US House of Representatives does seriously right now. The GOP currently controls the House by a tiny margin, and the party is being held hostage by its most extremist members. The only thing the House will do is bare minimum to keep the government running at all - and that’s in the face of their extremists vocally intending to shut it down entirely.
"The public and the press are holding the politicians to account", 10:45 in. Really? Perhaps in the EU; perhaps in some parts of the global south; in the US, UK, and Canada? No, certainly not.
Adam, I adore your channel, just discovered it a few weeks ago. I plan to sponsor you on Patreon. You have educated and entertained me. But once in a while, you say the wildest things, haha!
As for COP28, I have the lowest expectations. Greta, on the other hand, will continue to inspire her generation, along with many other dedicated young activists from around the world. I joined XR because of her words and her actions.
As for Greta: Minus the radical antizionism.
Brilliant analogy of the friend with a terrible partner! We need a total revision of COPs, to insulate decision making from corporate interests.
@@cabanacaterer- that‘s a strawman argument as it will be a phase out and not an immediate „full stop“.
Does that make them all hypocrites
It is enormously encouraging that this year we did not just get blah blah blah, but also quite a bit of jibber-Jaber.
I used to be interested in attending but the deeper I get into my own climate journey, I realized it could be boring if you aren't grounded in the details of what's happening, the way Climate Adam eloquently speaks about it. I'm staying off the hype train and stay focused on the work not the PR or "anti-PR".
I don't know, Adam. I am helping prepare the Brazilian presentation on our renewable diesel project and I can guarantee you that we are pretty serious about climate change
the following will be decided at COP:
Guess I'll just die and make sure I don't drag any new life into this criminal ecocide of a deathtrap 🤷
@@toyotaprius79 Funny, I got the same plan 😅
Bro i want to take a cookie from that summit.
How about if we all come up to one agreement. And that is that 2100 has arrived 60 years early.
75 years early ***
@@Jc-ms5vv possibly
The feel good ending was really dystopian
When I meet random real people in actual real life they never even mention climate change. They talk about the cruises they are going on, the cost of everything, the latest gadget or car they have bought. Stuff like that. Mention climate change and people back away or change the subject.
Cop : a climate conference
Also Cop : 2:35
Are these negotiations making a difference or are the numbers being adjusted to be more optimistic. We've already moved the baseline once to avoid having bad numbers.
Earth absorbing and retaining too much energy is the problem. Stopping emissions and starting carbon removal is vital but there’s something else adding to the problem.
Solar panels absorb the suns energy when we should be reflecting it away from the surface.
We are forming our own “global dimming” situation with solar power because they are designed to absorb energy.
Let's just hope there won't be COP100
There won't be. We'll have extinguished ourselves way before then.
Don't worry we wouldn't make it that far
@@bonysminiatures3123 oh god I've been ruined
Nah, Loki doesn't need a 3rd season, that finale was perfect.
... oh, another useless COP? In Dubai? The irony.
Stop the subsidies. Once the profit motive goes out of the fossil fuel industry, the investors will flock to more valuable long term investments. No subsidies and no investors and the whole world destroying industry will go away. Struggles for the economy and groups of people? Yes but look at the alternative.
Do the same for housing, civilian infrastructure, food and land (mis)use. There is a lot of ground to recover and much damage to undo, socioeconomic and ecological.
shifting subsidies away from fossil fuels (and ideally diverting that cash towards the energy transition) has been such a core idea of many climate movements for years, and I do hope it increasingly enters the political mainstream.
@@toyotaprius79 Yes, this. I'm all for a carbon tax, so long as the proceeds are used to offset other taxes and not squandered on favors for political patrons, but a new carbon tax is a hard sell when governments are actively subsidizing energy consumption in various ways. Clean up this mess before making a new one.
@@ClimateAdam What fossil fuel industry subsidies are we even talking about? Favorable lease terms, or uncompensated environmental costs, or are there more explicit subsidies? Not tax deductions for real business expenses, I assume. It would be good to see these subsidies enumerated and quantified, if they aren't already in a past video.
There seems to be more subsidies on the consumption rather than production side, but I could be wrong.
Indeed.@@toyotaprius79
let me sum up cop 28 for you "COP28 president says there's "no science" in fossil fuel phase-out calls" All this is a giant pr campaign for the oil industry
When there is this relentless focus on one single aspect of our many problems you have to suspect misdirection. It would be hardly surprising if the prime conversations between these countries off platform is setting up arms deals between each other. Especially with the UK in the midst of it. Stopping a jet fighter from blowing tons of kerosene out of its exhaust or from their private jets is going to be the absolutely the last fix on their agenda, after the home heating and lights have been switched off a long time ago. Those few that can afford carbon neutral technology mansions have no worries of course.
COP : too many paper work, too little field work
omg love that (as in the phrasing, not the reality!)
I have made a (very raw) draft for how I think an international framework should work. What would be a good place to discuss that? I think as climate activists, we should also have some debate on that front.
Suppose Put it on own channel since it is up
@@DrSmooth2000 what do you mean?
@@MusikCassette you've go a channel with videos already so upload your framework
I just watched the opening ceremony. I like a good puppet theater. Very funny. Especially the Sultan mentioning that one should define "the role of fossils" and the first little clash between Russia and the US. Gosh, sometimes I even get the impression that they are serious about climate change.
We need to stop giving cops to Petrostate
"Of the" doesn't deserve a capital O. Acronyms need to earn their capital letters.
I see quite a few scientists saying there is no point to go there (usually there are some scientists who do presentations and discuss with decision makers).
Most "scientists" are funded by government grants.... you take it from there. Study the discipline of "science"... it is eventually found to be wrong.
0:43 How'd you like Loki S2 Adam ?😅
Western countries are not going to stop using oil. Capitalism needs oil to live. We are going to have to live with it. This is just true. There will be platitudes and that's all. You gotta be a hell of a optimist to believe we'll stop using oil, and the heating of the planet will stop.
you are no doubt right, and indeed that is why our global civilization will collapse and all the currently rich "Western" and other countries will lose all their riches, along with everyone else.
people in the UK used to say the same thing about slavery. a large chunk of their capitalist economy depended on it, after all. ending it took a lot of effort and time, though.
the difference today is that fossile fuels don't just enslave people (like women in the UAE or saudi arabia), they also render large swaths of our ecosphere uninhabitable for humans, unsuited for agriculture, underwater etc, for at least thousands of years. and this is happening already, and will be happening faster and faster the longer we wait.
fossil fuels WILL end - the question is, how many billions of human beings are we willing to sacrifice on the altar of unlimited economic growth in the meantime?
thank you for the informations
Any time!
Great video. Sheds some light on how bs COP has become
The rate of global energy consumption has been increasing so we need renewables to fill the gap in energy needs that oil isn't fast enough to fill (i.e., we are not replacing oil, we are augmenting energy supplies). On the economic front, oil prices are starting to drop due to a drop in demand caused by the growing global deflationary recession -- a potential sign of on going global societal collapse. However, ignoring the societal issues from collapsing economies, that means we are using less oil for a while. How's that for optimism?
Great video, thank you!
Bad start
It is becoming a show instead of actual accomplishments required that is needed😮
Sustainability
I think Tom Hiddleston said Loki S2 was the end of his run as the character
there goes my major income stream
Perhaps the message of this COP for us is: If you don't stop talking about the climate we'll make a nice "democracy" like in in the UAE? 😉
Or the hope is to get the states there more responsible. What make sense in my opinion, because the mideast and the north of Africa are already hot and dry and if we don't stop climate change, parts of this region will probably become inhabitable before the year 2100.
and do everything I've been saying they were going to including screaming how dare you blame the oil industry and pretending Cabon capture is all we need to do so we can keep burning oil
Hello Climate Adam,
As an engaged viewer, I find value in your program despite our differing viewpoints. I'm prompted to engage further by the environmental issues you've highlighted, including air pollution and ecological impacts from human activities.
I've compiled a series of inquiries, presented with the intention of fostering a comprehensive and impartial exploration of these topics.
Regarding CO2 concentrations: Observations indicate an increase from 320 ppm to 420 ppm over six decades, comprising about 0.04% of our atmosphere. How does this increment relate to historical atmospheric CO2 data, and what implications might this have for our climate prediction models?
Visualization effects on perception: Illustrations depict CO2 as a minuscule fraction of the atmospheric composition. How might different visualization techniques influence public perception of environmental risks?
Trends in global temperatures: Data suggests a global temperature rise of approximately one degree Celsius in the past 60 years. How does this rate of change compare to known historical temperature fluctuations, and is there a definitive link to human activity?
The role of CO2 in photosynthesis: Increased CO2 levels are known to potentially boost plant growth. What broader impact does this have on the carbon cycle and could there be overall positive ecological outcomes from higher CO2 levels that are currently unaccounted for?
Agricultural productivity: There has been a notable increase in cereal production, surpassing population growth rates. What factors contribute to this agricultural success, and how is climate change integrated into these complex systems?
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Cool release. But you shouldn't criticize like that. I also have an issue on this topic.
More money for the Amazon only means more occupation, plastic in the rivers and lots of sewage! Just like DISGRACENCE in São Sebastião - São Paulo - Brazil with the occupation of Serra do Mar and landslides! I heard resident saying. - I've been here for 20 years and I've never seen or suffered such misfortune! Just count 2023 minus 20 years and it gives the same idea as the Brazilian government, but it yields a lot of votes in the elections!
Brazil wants to build its financial pyramid in the Amazon!
The climate always has changed!
“breathtaking conflict of interest” that could “open the floodgates for greenwashing and oil and gas deals to keep exploiting fossil fuels.” so just like Glasgows COP - and the newer licenses by UK Westminster gov. for North Sea oil and gas, etc.
and the UAE is making oil deals during it
There is an irony that all the currently rich countries in the world have the most to lose when our global civilization inevitably collapses. The rich countries have the resources to actually start to tackle the problem but they will not do it. When the collapse comes, the rich countries will lose everything, along with everyone else. And why is the collapse now inevitable? The most sinister aspect of the climate crisis is that the damage is cumulative and long term, but the signs of impending doom only accumulate gradually and are still only read clearly by the few that understand the science. This kind of long term existential problem is the exact type that humanity is least well equipped to address. Most humans think about the next week's income. Most politicians think either about the next election (if they are in some kind of "democracy"), or how to enforce their continuing grip on power (for all other countries.) Our politicians are too ignorant, cowardly and corrupt to take the action required to save us.
Oil producing states are not the culprits that cause climate change. Each one of us individuals, govts, companies that consume oil & gas are the culprits. When there is no buyer, there will be no seller!
until you can remove the fossil fuel infrastructure from society. There isn't much hope for that. They more or less have created a locked system, and anytime we try to install new infrastructure to replace it. The fossil fuel industry creates an economic crisis.
5:34 unfortunately, when taking the exponential factor, permanent methane feedbacks and the proper preindustrial date of 1750 into account, 2.5C will likely be reached in 2025 and 3C 12 months later.
both policy and research use 1850-1900 as the baseline - not as some kind of cheat, but because that's when we have good data to compare to. so when researchers say "here's the consequences of 1.5 degrees" they're referring to this baseline. the important thing is that researchers and policymakers are talking about the same thing (which they are) so we know the consequences of particular policies.
VERY bad math
you said we're heading for 2.5 degrees when we were heading for 4 degrees just a decade ago, but how can that be if co2 emissions are still increasing?
we work out what we're heading for by estimating (based on policies, current emissions, etc, etc) how emissions are likely to evolve between now and 2100. and note that it's the total emissions that matter (not just the emissions in one year). so the curve we'd expect now is looking substantially lower than what we could have reasonably expected last year - partly because emissions have increased by much less than they were previously, and partly because we can see where momentum is headed in with policies, etc, etc.
Can't they learn to make big decisions remotely? I thought covid forced people to do that? You said hate comments aren't allowed, but as long as it's towards the biggest culprits...
Net Zero interest, concern, analysis or evaluation of the cost/benefit of either climate impact or mitigation policies
...lol...agree with your concerns
about COP meetings...basically a 'feel good' meeting to appease the likelihood we aren't going to make it.
We're NOT going to stop using fossil fuels AND continue our economy. Oh, well...
The open middle bits of hyways should be filled with native plants flowers bushes trees all from seed for max adapt ability.
Also the trees will slow drivers i mean i dont want to hit a tree 10 feet off the road going 90mph i rather hit it going 60 mph.
Also the trees will reduce light going into your eyes from oncoming traffic on the other road like 5 feet away but that doesn't stop people from using there brights.
Also all this plant life will reduce flooding heat co2 soil loss and give back to are planet a home for wilf life and o2 for everything.
many plants die when exposed to that many toxic air particles released by the combustion engines. Until we electrify most of them this will be quite a challenge. Also trimming might be an issue but some plants can be handled quite well (Bamboo 4ex). Overall I am all for the idea
@@grischa762 I know but if you cut them they Automatically become maintenance trees that self destruct.
Just plant them far enough away when they grow they don't invade the road.
But also if there's thousands of new trees bushes and flowers it should reduce the pollution load on the plants giving them a better chance.
Also also over a million ev cars are made every year and usa makes about 259 to 300 thousand ev cars a year 2 years ago so it shouldn't be long before most cars are ev.
I love your idea, and feel that basically everywhere needs green coverage of some sort, even weeds are a much better option than bare ground or manmade roads or concrete etc.
I read there are some shrubs that are being used that suck up, or exist well alongside toxic fumes and soil that gets heavy metal build up.They are used at side of highways and roads, where homes are nearby. I do not remember the names of them. There would also be suitable ones though to fit. It just takes the will and vision, and some leadership skills.
I think the car safety is a really good point. Unconsciously drivers would have to be affected by the trees in their vision.
The downside of trees is that the wildlife around almost always gets killed. I have jogged daily for 30 years and now also live on rural road, and cannot tell you how many birds, (particularly newly fledged)lizards, snakes, wombats, roos (i am in Oz) I have ceremonially removed from roadsides. It is quite heartbreaking. Also 4WD vehicles regularly drive onto the grass and wetland easements for fun. So much damage.
The city jogging was just as bad, although less native wildlife .
Good luck with whatever you are up to.
I argue that It's WAY better to abandon private motorized transport (AKA bikes and cars) since they're dreadfully inefficient (seriously, just the USA have an average of 1.5 occupants per vehicle), both in terms of resources and space. Best is public transport, a single bus could remove about 100 cars from the streets, if we put trains and trams on the mix then we can increase even more the efficiency (less attrition from the rails after all).
UAE is the absolute opposite of sustainability and eco-friendly, they worship pure profits
CONVIENE ENTERARSE DE LA HISTORIA DE ESTAS REUNIONES, PARA SABER PORQUE NO SE HA PODIDO CONTROLAR EL CALENTAMIENTO GLOBAL.
Maybe it should be changed to KOP. = Keep On Polluting !
CO2, undoubtedly, is a key greenhouse gas, contributing to the Earth's greenhouse effect. It's crucial in maintaining the planet's habitability by trapping heat in the atmosphere. However, the discussion around CO2's impact on climate change often lacks complexity and ignores other significant factors.
First, while human activities have increased atmospheric CO2 levels since the Industrial Revolution, it's essential to recognize that CO2's role in the Earth's climate has varied over geological time scales. Historical data, like the Central England Temperature Record, indicates periods of climate change that occurred well before significant human-induced CO2 emissions. This suggests that other natural factors have historically influenced Earth's climate.
Moreover, recent increases in CO2 levels have raised concerns about accelerated global warming. However, Earth's climate system is complex, and CO2 is just one part of this system. For instance, during the post-World War II period, there was a notable global cooling despite rising CO2 levels, challenging the direct correlation between CO2 concentration and global temperature.
Additionally, while CO2 levels are rising, they are not unprecedented in Earth's history. Geological records show that Earth has experienced much higher CO2 levels in the past. This perspective is crucial for understanding the current climate context and for predicting future climate patterns.
It's also worth noting that CO2, while a significant greenhouse gas, is not the only one. Methane, for example, is a more potent greenhouse gas, though it exists in smaller quantities. Water vapour, the most abundant greenhouse gas, plays a vital role in the Earth's energy balance but is often overlooked in discussions focused solely on CO2.
Regarding the human contribution to CO2 emissions, it represents a fraction of the global carbon cycle, which includes natural sources and sinks like oceans and forests.
What solutions do you propose if we go off fossil fuels.
the funny thing is that a lot of solutions come with not burning fossile fuels. More than 50 % of the fossile fules extracted are just wasted on transportation, refining, the process of electrification wich are very low efficient compared to solar, wind... So we don't have to replace all the energy in the oil we drill, we have to replace less then half of it. Somehow conservatives seem to forget this point out of no reason.
We have less costs for our medical system (I can only speak for Germany, bit here 10,000 people die every year from air polution by fossiles. Most of these people have costly treatments over years. Kologna near a coal mine has a lung cancer rate several times higher then the average.)
I know eating meat is a holy gral to many but even they should understand that eating ten times the amount of meat that would be healthy is just dumb when you look at the health riscs (also once again expensive and meat production is linked to a third of global green house gas emissions)
Theeeeere it is again That Funny Feeling
When will we talk about overpopulation?
Personally i think we need oil companies at the table for decarbonization discussions. They have a ton of expertise/ human capital and a lot of the infrastructure necessary for deep decarbonization (pipelines, drilling expertise for geothermal, chemical engineering expertise for carbon neutral synfuels).
I think there's a strong case for that. But at the table, and heading the table are different propositions.
Oil companies aren't honest actors and they have proven it over and over again
Uae holding cop 💀
Awesome~~^^
Maybe?
at this point, i pay attention to COP for laughs. deeply unserious leaders with no sense of urgency
Cop 28 oil industry Pr campaign
I would like tobe optimistic but looking at, how easy it is for the fossil fuel industry to hijack the discussion, with nonsense promises and pr stunts( and yes carbon capture in the way they are proposing it is a pr stunt). I find little reason for optimism.
Wow! Is there no more money from the PEC overflow? Brazil lies because it wants to prospect for oil at the mouth of the Amazon River and eliminate the corals in the Bahamas!
Saudis want a leading role in decarbonization and partnering with Brazil is essential, says expert
President Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva's first destination on a trip to the Middle East that began this Tuesday (28), Saudi Arabia offers a very varied and rich portfolio of investments for Brazil.
And now it's over,am wondering if you are saying that same thing?
so long as the issue is treated as question of economics rather than a real existential problem, nothing will be done. It is more economically lucrative to make the planet uninhabitable for humans than it is not to.
HEADLINE: Anti-green backlash hovers over COP climate talks
Gee, you picked the UAE to host this summit, one of the major producers/organizers of the petroleum pollution industry. DOH
What's COP again?
conference of the parties. worst. acronym. ever.
1000 private jets😂
honestly that's another reason I don't go to COPs - I think it's important for all nations to be represented there, but unless I have something important to do while I'm there, I can't justify the flight to myself. though next year's is much closer to home so... we'll see what happens for COP29!
Forget COP28 it's all eyes on 2026 that matters.
"At the edge of extinction"
Everbody; "Only love remains"
"Only love remains"
"Only love remains".
I believe a lot in energy and energetically transference. That's why I am of the opinion that you and other people that really care about the climate and environment and activists should go to the COP. You might infect someone in the positive sense without even knowing it, just by being present.
infect them? you mean like covid 19?
it is like the British fighting the Nazis in the Second World War to then put Hitler in charge of the UK. We need to find stronger weapons to fight this particular War. There are attempts to use the law that is promising. I support 7 enviromental wild life organisations with the idea of trying to create a new Ark whilst attempting to influence people through their love of animals. I also support Amnesty against cruelty & dictatorships that are much worse than democracies in all these things. Then support Labour in the UK as they are & always have been far Greener than the Tories. England is far too Conservative to vote for the Greens straight. Other ideas welcome because we need something more than COPs.
Mate cop28 or planet earth is going to mess?
Sve se vrti oko novca sad izmisljaju kako bi veliki profitirali
its all about control in our lives
TL;DR All COPs are bad.
Though not equally so.
If there was the will to do something about this issue, we'd have needed only 2 COPs. One to decide what to do and the other to check that we'd done what we said we would do and to pat ourselves on the back for doing it. That we're on COP number 28 speaks volumes about the lack of will.
Let's face it. In respect of fossil fuels, COP stands for Carry On Pumping. They were established to give the semblance of action whilst actually being nothing more than an oil industry trade conference. If their stated purpose had been to increase the production of fossil fuels, they would be regarded as hugely effective.
At this stage, frankly, who cares. We're headed into civilisational collapse and nothing will prevent that now...not even the most dramatic shift away from fossil fuels. The 'there's still time' narrative fools no-one any more and the scientists who wheel out this tired old trope (eg Micheal Mann) look ostrich-like at best, deceitful at worst.
I hope that I would see in my lifetime cop100
Ah yeah!
As Russian, I've always wanted to know... why do Bri'ish people tense their eyebrows so much when they talk? It's like they're in pain.
us British people find the act of communicating our hearts a challenge, and our eyebrows express that burden!
Colossal waste of time