The GTOnly Challenge Begins | 100NL on GG Poker with NO EXPLOITS
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In this new challenge exploits are banned. I must play my best attempt at a GTO strategy against ALL opponents regardless of player type. This series will mostly take place on Carrot Corner and Twitch but enjoy the first ever session of the challenge here for free. - Ігри
you’re a really talented coach man thanks for the free content
Love the idea of this series. Looking forward to the subscription service in 2024!
Great content Pete...would love a video on how much weight to give to different factors when decision making... bet size, postion, missed draws etc
Cool concept, gl on the challenge.
Loved this. Thank you.
You're a good chap, Carrots. Thanks for your bloody amazing content!
You're very welcome!
Love the series. How much hands are you going to play before your make any conclusions? Because the first 100K hands does not say that much due to standard variance?
Great idea for a series 👍. I don't think its going to work but I'll definitely watch. It will be interesting to see
Why
I don't know. Sure it give up EV in some spots but I think it will also challenge me to play more accurately and find more good aggression. Also this pool contains a decent amount of weak players.
I’m curious if this comment is implying that he will not be able to play close enough to GTO, or if the comment is implying that playing perfect GTO wouldn’t work
Gto dont work here. Full exploit 🎉
@@dbshash I mean I don't think it will work in relation to making a significant winrate (money). Won't overcome rake
Great content as always Pete. Interested in the KsQh hand where you said that you get looked up a lot in that spot because of the "doesnt make sense" thought process. You said it like that is not a valid thing to say? For that hand, i imagine if we are betting backdoor spades (which you are repping on the river OB) that you orobably want to barrel the turn when you pick up equity? So wouod it therefore be a valid argument to say that your line was a bit strange? Cheers again mate - looking forward to Jan and the release of the Carrot Corner subscription!
I think with so much analysis and so little time, you can stick to 1 table. It becomes a bit difficult if ever both tables are active. While perhaps boring for UA-cam, 1 table would likely be a more educational approach in the future :)
I was somewhat feeling the same way. I guess i would say atleast trying a single table video would be worth a shot or editing it so that Its not really 2 at once every analyzed at the same time And i know the point of these videos is not for analysis but it’s still part of it
Noted and we could certainly cut down time better in this format. I get a bit bored one tabling but I think I can make this work.
maybe you could instead watch it at 25% speed
@@rando9574 🤣
Really like the content.
Nonetheless I can't help but notice that the word "tanked" was used for a 3 second call (J10 off rivered double pair guy). That's kinda much
I think this format fits on regular tables, in R&C env they are not forced to play weak hands, just fold and zooooom
Hi, new sub here🎉 very nice Channel btw and i like your honesty and the way you explain. I came back to poker After 3 years, Just playing nl2, the max i have never ever reached was nl50 years ago 😮 speaking about GTO concepts and stuff, i see that of course we use many different sizes with out range pre and post flop. I mean, i of course play exploitative at those infimouse limits 😂 nl2 i mean, i use different sizes post flop depending on opponent and texture, but not on pre flop. I see solver for exanple open 2x, 2.25 and 2.5 from utg with their range. I opted for 2x from utg and mp, 2.5 from co and 3x from btn and SB. The reason for my choice Is that i have too many multiway from early and i want my bigger sizes when i am in position. Is this a good thinking process or its Better to open say 3x with my entire range?
It depends. Are you talking strictly cash game or are you a tournament mtt formats?
Cash game yeah. Atm im opening those sizes instead of a 3x or something every pos. Im finding my self in a good spot, adapting to the rake, avoiding multiway oop etc etc
Time to learn my theory 😂.
I’m interested to see the long term graph on this
So am I 😀
hate to be that guy, but since its a theoretical series you should review some preflop spots, 43s is a losing open in any position even at 200nl, and K9o is always an open in the CO, also the 86o is not even close, losing almost tenth of a bb. Love the videos though, watching every one
also it would really be cool to edit in solver solutions on some of if not a bunch of the spots while you talk to see whats going on in the solver
K9o is not a pure open in CO, it's a mix in many rake structures likely including this one
i like this format/series cuz you can compare the winrate from this playstyle to your actual winrate and see how much more EV your exploits are winning :)
Lol, I literally experimented this last night and saw this video in the morning.. funny
In my experience it was very eye opening to realise in a lot of spots I was fighting the urge of my human tendencies/natural exploits and was actually very hard to do the GTO action based on my frequencies instead of thinking about the hand logically.
Especially in spots where you know its underbluffed but GTO says call, most of the time I was correct and it ended up being the nuts, however I would say there was about 5% of the time a bluff that I would never suspect.
More content like this plz!
I commented this before watching the video and just realised you state this in the first few mins 🤣
How much will the subscription be? and will the courses be included?
The subscription will be £49.99 per month and will not give access to the courses. We are considering discounts on courses for subscribers though.
At 11:32 I think that it is between fold and 4bet, not call and 4bet.
How well do you think your courses translate to live play over online? Do you think the thought processes are still right but you would just account differently for global tendencies or do you see them as completely different games?
I think both types of course translate well. Grades 1-3 of Carrot Poker School are theoretical and general enough that they teach you how the game works; the whys and hows, not just what an exact GTO strategy looks like. You can get that from a solver but piecing together the nuts and bolts of poker is another thing altogether. Grade E and Cash Injection are exploitative and describe how humans deviate from solid strategies due to very common human thought patterns and behaviours that are standard across a very wide ranges of stakes and game formats.
@CarrotCornerPoker thank you. I've enjoyed the UA-cam videos so I may look into this
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gto does call on the sb prefolp why dont you?
Thank you for your explanations. I don't think I understood any of it. Too quick. I'm too slow.
I'm anxious to see how the ObeseBeast is gonna do in this challenge
Can you please tell me what software you use for your randomizer?
It's a custom made program one of my students made
Can I get access to this? Please share on Google Drive senpai 🙏
@CarrotCornerPoker Is it called RNGclick.exe? If not, can you possibly send me the software please? 🙏
What do the digits above mean?
I think they're random number generators that allow him to randomise his decisions in certain situations
can u post the rng link ,sir?
so we open AJo in UTG+2, but we fold AQo in the cutoff when folded to. I think I'm ready to play some .50NL
There is no UTG+2 in 6max. I think you'll find this is a nit ring position for old man coffees.
@@CarrotCornerPoker you know what I mean boss 🫣
@blakeengland7784 utg+2 and cutoff are same position in 6m
@@Metskins yeah I didn't think we would get caught up on naming positions but rather making negative EV plays
How many hands do you need to play to get a picture of what's going on. 50k+?
I'd recommend checking out this variance calculator for a good answer to this: www.primedope.com/poker-variance-calculator/ There's no simple numerical answer but the bigger you get the closer to true winrate you see. I have had students who are winning players win over 150k then break even over the next 150. 6max cash has a pretty high standard deviation.
currently break even over 18k hands@@jonathanhenderson9422
There's no way 76s is a fold on the button. Right?
you seem really knowledgable but 86o is never a bb call vs sb open 🤣 I think its like some frequency of 98o and Q9o as the bottom also i think gto is almost never calling (edit 3bets) 4bets with KQo OOP
It was a 3Bet not a 4Bet 🙂
if you check monker solver Bvb vs 3x, 86o has some calls
@@CarrotCornerPoker I think the point still stands in that case 🙂
@@rando9574 maybe in a no rake environment? how else could it be so drastically different from pio (of which gtoW is based on)
@@CarrotCornerPokerKQo is not a call CO vs BTN 3bet in a high rake environment.
With such a challenge, you're totally going to get into spots where you're beat 99% of the time, and have to call down "because gto". Gonna make you cringe so hard making such call downs when you know you're beat, and literally giving them a full stack.
lmao gtowizard just dropped cash drop sims
Of course they did
GG rake with no exploiting is gonna eat you
Your courses are going to sell like hot cakes if at the end of the challenge you are able to crush.
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I truly love your content; I have purchased and studied your courses and poker therapy but i don't belive this format to be very exciting. Personally I would stick to a blend of theory and exploit, especially for paid content. I think it's much more valuable for your average audience.
Thanks for sharing your opinion on this. I plan to run a challenge along side this where I play exploitative poker and there will be a tonne of theory meets practice content on Carrot Corner along side these when we launch subscriptions.
I would love that! @@CarrotCornerPoker
I think a lot of your plays are pretty far off the % solvers recommend. But A for effort.
Hard to be exploitative when multi tabling. You’re missing out on critical information which can only be gathered by focusing in on one table. Information worth more than what HUDs can provide. Just because a player at a table has a 40+% VPIP doesn’t necessarily make them a maniac. Perhaps they are on a heater and are subsequently deciding to widen their ranges and are still playing well postflop. At that point, their VPIP/ATS can be misleading and cost you in big pots.
GTO is a very old Plymouth car. How can this car possibly help us at poker? 🚗
I know GTO doesn't fold AQo in the cutoff when folded to
I opened and everyone folded. The editor cuts out donwtime in this format. My cursor just happened to be over the fold button at the point where the scene was cut.
Too many checks here. Gto is shit 😅
Please tell us about the astronomical rake that GG takes from players and stop feeding us advertising content only for your profit and their company.You give advice to people to play cash games buy my courses etc when you know for a fact that people can t beat the rake and if they beat it at micro stake you beat it with such low margin that you can t even pay for your food with the money won.
The rake on GG poker at the stakes featured here is about 2bb/100 higher than average. It gets worse than this at reg tables especially if you play lower stakes. You can find all of this information on primedope.com as I frequently say in videos. I’m not affiliated in any way with GG poker and have no reason whatsoever to promote them. I believe that people can beat rake for a decent profit in this game if they become strong enough because the standard of play is low and large edges are possible if you’re good enough. Lots of people in our discord group have become winning players thanks to their own positive attitude, hard work ethic and the education they’ve received at carrot corner. It’s is tough and most people don’t manage to become winning players, it but it’s very possible.
@@CarrotCornerPoker Fair enough if its so, i don t have the math to argue with you.If you have taken into consideration the preflop rake also and its only 2bb then i apologise.But still i think as a content creator you have a lot of power to influence a lot of people and also their life and as a recommandation i sugest to add the rake info also of that site because the road of a poker player crusher even with the right tools courses and coaching is a long one.Many people just get lost and crumble if the rake is high especially if variance its not on their side.Good luck in your future endeavours.
@@user-zw7zf3rs1oif you are trying to live off poker but can't because you can't beat the rake and don't even know about it, then you have bigger issues than your poker skill...... if you are a learning player, focus on learning and not results, and expect it to cost ya